Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-19 Thread Don Guthrie
d maybe we should change the heading for this discussion. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:18:52 +1300 From: David Mann To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Android tablets for showing photos? Message-ID:<719b15d2-40fd-42fe-a5e4-734fb0642...@gmail.com> Co

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread Larry Colen
If the box is loud for twenty minutes while processing a couple thousand photos, I'm not going to mind if it's relatively quiet when I'm not using it. On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:18 PM, David Mann wrote: > On Feb 19, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Don Guthrie wrote: > >> It is banned now in Europe because of so

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread David Mann
On Feb 19, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Don Guthrie wrote: > It is banned now in Europe because of some electrical problem. To clarify, a European electrical safety standards was updated and the Mac Pro does not comply with the new standard on a couple of minor points. One is that they must now fit fing

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread David Mann
On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Since we still have a couple of PowerMac G5 and a few recent Mac Pro > test units in the lab, I fired them up with a cooling system test app > to see how different the noise at nominal and full blast cooling. > These machine are about half p

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Don Guthrie wrote: > My system is almost identical to Godfrey's. And I have not slowed it down > with any processing I have done video or stills. I'm not quite sure what this means in reference to how fast it'll process a bunch of images. > The top of the line iMa

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Since we still have a couple of PowerMac G5 and a few recent Mac Pro test units in the lab, I fired them up with a cooling system test app to see how different the noise at nominal and full blast cooling. These machine are about half populated with hardware and such. My answer: not much. Very prec

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-18 13:12 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:50 AM, steve harley wrote: when we went through this in a previous thread, there was a hypothesis that keeping it all in one case might actually have some noise, power and cost benefits versus externals; i think the Mac Pro p

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread Larry Colen
Godfrey, you're the only one I've ever met who treats someone saying that they have different needs than you as a personal insult. On Feb 17, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> What I do want is the ability to put multiple drives i

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:50 AM, steve harley wrote: > when we went through this in a previous thread, there was a hypothesis that > keeping it all in one case might actually have some noise, power and cost > benefits versus externals; i think the Mac Pro power supply might also be > more reliabl

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-17 22:34 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote: What I do want is the ability to put multiple drives in the case. If I were to get a mac mini, then I'd need to buy another box for external drive storage. I'm not terribly space limited, and if I

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread Tim Bray
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 12:12 AM, David Mann wrote: > I don't know if this is feasible, but could you set it up so your initial > processing happens using an SSD, then you move the files off to big > spinning-rust disks afterwards? That way you'd get a shedload of speed when > you need it most

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi That's it, Steve. Protect the universe from what you think isn't to your taste. You know so much more than anyone. G That seems a bit of the pot calling the kettle black. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-18 Thread David Mann
On Feb 18, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > So if two cores takes me 20 minutes to pre-process, four takes 12, and eight > takes 8, and it doesn't cost me much more money for the extra speed, I'll > give up a little space on the top of my desk. Don't forget to factor I/O speed in; when y

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > What I do want is the ability to put multiple drives in the case. If I were > to get a mac mini, then I'd need to buy another box for external drive > storage. I'm not terribly space limited, and if I can get 8 cores of > performance for a

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It doesn't work for ProTools at this time, at least not given the version of the software my brother is working with. if you offer him the $40,000 or so to upgrade all his systems and software to the latest stuff that will work with less expensive hardware, I'm sure he'd appreciate your investment

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That's it, Steve. Protect the universe from what you think isn't to your taste. You know so much more than anyone. G On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:52 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2013-02-17 8:45 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote > >> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:07 PM, steve harley wrote: >>> >>> on 2013-02-14

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Tim Bray
Yeah, I have a 2008-vintage mac pro that really excels as a “home mainframe”. It’s plenty fast enough and infinitely flexible: in its lifetime, I’ve upgraded the memory and the disk drives and last year put in some monster NVidia card to play Skyrim with. Unglamorous, but what a workhorse. -T On

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-17 8:45 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:07 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2013-02-14 16:47 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote This is because iOS does not support external file systems, which cannot be sandboxed. A sandboxed file system promotes security and minimizes virus attack

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-17 17:16 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 17/2/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: What do you really need a Mac Pro 8-core for? My brother uses one of those but he does real-time work (video/audio editing - it's his bus

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I love your always-conspiracy-theory view of Apple products, Larry. You just don't get Apple, like I don't get your humor. eh? It's not paranoia when they really are out to get you. It's also not a conspir

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 17, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > What do you really need a Mac Pro 8-core for? My brother uses one of > those but he does real-time work (video/audio editing - it's his > business: http://www.headlinestudios.net/Headline_Studios.html) which > is orders of magnitude more de

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-17 11:28 Larry Colen wrote I've seen a few of them on craigslist for $1,000 -$1,400. I expect I'll need to add drives, memory, a second display card, a USB 3 card, and might need a second ethernet card. i believe all the 8-core Mac Pros have dual gigabit Ethernet ports and dual d

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 17/2/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>What do you really need a Mac Pro 8-core for? My brother uses one of >>those but he does real-time work (video/audio editing - it's his >>business: http://www.headlinestudios.net/

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 17/2/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >What do you really need a Mac Pro 8-core for? My brother uses one of >those but he does real-time work (video/audio editing - it's his >business: http://www.headlinestudios.net/Headline_Studios.html) which >is orders of magnitude more dema

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. I'd not done any performance testing on the mini and this last exchange made me curious. When I get curious ... I opened Lightroom 4.3, selected 100 18 Mpixel M9 raw files, and started one export process to output them as full resolution, zip compressed, 8bit TIFF files. Half a minute later,

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Aahz Maruch" Subject: Re: Android tablets for showing photos? On Sun, Feb 17, 2013, steve harley wrote: on 2013-02-17 8:29 David Savage wrote Blah, blah, blah...*IT junkies n

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013, steve harley wrote: > on 2013-02-17 8:29 David Savage wrote >> >>Blah, blah, blah...*IT junkies nerding out* > > what's IT? Who's on first? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*>

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-17 8:29 David Savage wrote Blah, blah, blah...*IT junkies nerding out* what's IT? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 17, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I love your always-conspiracy-theory view of Apple products, Larry. > You just don't get Apple, like I don't get your humor. eh? Exactly. Which is why, now that I've gotten a paycheck, I'm starting to look for a good deal on a used 8-core

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Aahz Maruch wrote: >On Sun, Feb 17, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> >> I love your always-conspiracy-theory view of Apple products, Larry. >> You just don't get Apple, like I don't get your humor. eh? > >It's not paranoia when they really are out to get you. It's also not a conspiracy – by defin

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > I love your always-conspiracy-theory view of Apple products, Larry. > You just don't get Apple, like I don't get your humor. eh? It's not paranoia when they really are out to get you. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6h

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I love your always-conspiracy-theory view of Apple products, Larry. You just don't get Apple, like I don't get your humor. eh? G On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Feb 16, 2013, at 11:07 PM, steve harley wrote: > >> on 2013-02-14 16:47 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote >>> This is

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:07 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2013-02-14 16:47 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote >> This is because iOS does not support external file systems, which >> cannot be sandboxed. A sandboxed file system promotes security and >> minimizes virus attacks, particularly important in mobile

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread David Savage
Blah, blah, blah...*IT junkies nerding out* :-D On 17 February 2013 17:04, steve harley wrote: > on 2013-02-17 1:40 Larry Colen wrote > >> >> On Feb 16, 2013, at 11:07 PM, steve harley wrote: >> >>> on 2013-02-14 16:47 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote This is because iOS does not support extern

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-17 1:40 Larry Colen wrote On Feb 16, 2013, at 11:07 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2013-02-14 16:47 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote This is because iOS does not support external file systems, which cannot be sandboxed. A sandboxed file system promotes security and minimizes virus attacks, parti

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-17 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 16, 2013, at 11:07 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2013-02-14 16:47 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote >> This is because iOS does not support external file systems, which >> cannot be sandboxed. A sandboxed file system promotes security and >> minimizes virus attacks, particularly important in mobile de

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-16 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-14 16:47 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote This is because iOS does not support external file systems, which cannot be sandboxed. A sandboxed file system promotes security and minimizes virus attacks, particularly important in mobile devices. iOS does support external file systems, just in spec

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-15 Thread Tim Bray
For Android tablets in general, it’s really hard to beat the N7, the basic model at $199 is a whole lotta tablet for the money. The 7" form factor is a huge win for, well, maybe everything but picture display; it’s a great screen but 10" is going to make more of your pictures. Rumor has it that t

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-15 Thread Steve Cottrell
This article in The Guardian may be of interest to those reading this thread. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion -- _

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Igor Roshchin
Thu Feb 14 14:40:12 EST 2013 lrc at red4est.com wrote: > Flash! Mark and Godfrey are different people. Mark! I have been always suspecting that, but was never really sure... [GRIN] > Most of us consider this to be a good thing. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
BTW, you can back up your iPhone or iPod touch to an iPad, or one iPad to another iPad, using the Camera Connection Kit's USB connector. This works very well: I use the iPhone 4S as a compact camera a good bit of the time (it's a darn good camera) and transfer the photos to the iPad to process them

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2013-02-14 3:49 Joseph McAllister wrote > >> The iPad can be configured with one or more of Apple's dongles for SD >> cards. > > but a major downside is that an iPad can't copy *to* an SD card or USB > storage; it can only copy from it; th

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-14 3:49 Joseph McAllister wrote The iPad can be configured with one or more of Apple's dongles for SD cards. but a major downside is that an iPad can't copy *to* an SD card or USB storage; it can only copy from it; this is one of the only things that has made me consider jailbreak

Re: RE> Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-14 12:15 John Sessoms wrote Observation from way out here in left field ... The biggest problem with tablets for displaying photos is when they get passed around someone inadvertently touches the wrong place and shuts down the viewing application, requiring the tablet to be passed bac

Re: RE> Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Igor Roshchin
Thu Feb 14 14:27:39 EST 2013 Godfrey DiGiorgi: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > > Observation from way out here in left field ... > > > > The biggest problem with tablets for displaying photos is when they > > get > > passed around someone inadvertently touches the wrong

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread kwaller
Godfrey, Is there an app, with RAW to TIFF to JPEG conversion ability that you'd reccommend? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Android tablets for showing photos? On Thu, Feb

Re: RE> Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Aahz Maruch" > Subject: Re: RE> Android tablets for showing photos? >>On Thu, Feb 14, 2013, John Sessoms wrote: >>> >>>The biggest problem with tablets for displayi

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:40 PM, wrote: > I might be mistaken but IIRC the ipad will only show jpegs. JPEG, TIFF, EPUB, and PDF files can all be viewed on an iPad using the supplied apps. Third-party apps can raw conversion and display other formats. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

Re: RE> Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread kwaller
The few photo frames I'm familar with don't have anything close to the quality of image on an ipad. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Aahz Maruch" Subject: Re: RE> Android tablets for showing photos?

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread kwaller
I might be mistaken but IIRC the ipad will only show jpegs. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" Subject: Re: Android tablets for showing photos? The iPad can be configured with one or more of Apple

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread lrc
Flash! Mark and Godfrey are different people. Most of us consider this to be a good thing. Mark Roberts wrote: >Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >>On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Mark Roberts >> wrote: >>> The iPad can be configured with one or more of Apple's dongles for >SD cards. >>> >>> One

Re: RE> Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > Observation from way out here in left field ... > > The biggest problem with tablets for displaying photos is when they get > passed around someone inadvertently touches the wrong place and shuts down > the viewing application, requiring the

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: >>It's less important to me whether I need a little adapter to read a >>card, which I do seldom, vs whether the tablet does what I need, which >>I use all the time. Having the card interface via an adapter also >>means that it can be upgraded w

Re: RE> Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013, John Sessoms wrote: > > The biggest problem with tablets for displaying photos is when they > get passed around someone inadvertently touches the wrong place and > shuts down the viewing application, requiring the tablet to be > passed back to the owner many, many times befor

RE> Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread John Sessoms
Observation from way out here in left field ... The biggest problem with tablets for displaying photos is when they get passed around someone inadvertently touches the wrong place and shuts down the viewing application, requiring the tablet to be passed back to the owner many, many times befor

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Mark Roberts > wrote: >> >>>The iPad can be configured with one or more of Apple's dongles for SD cards. >> >> One on the "not negotiable" requirements I had when I went shopping >> for a tablet was "no dongles for connectivity". > >It's

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >>The iPad can be configured with one or more of Apple's dongles for SD cards. > > One on the "not negotiable" requirements I had when I went shopping > for a tablet was "no dongles for connectivity". It's less important to me whether I need

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph McAllister wrote: >The iPad can be configured with one or more of Apple's dongles for SD cards. One on the "not negotiable" requirements I had when I went shopping for a tablet was "no dongles for connectivity". -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PD

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >Also, Mark, if you shoot RAW+JPEG can you put the card from your camera in >the thrive and chimp the photos on the bigger screen? Yep. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-14 Thread Joseph McAllister
The iPad can be configured with one or more of Apple's dongles for SD cards. There is also a device that will allow you to power the iPad with a USB wall-wart that has a pass through so the SD card dongle can be used at the same time. On Feb 13, 2013, at 21:38 , kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: >

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-13 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-13 17:26 Larry Colen wrote I'd like an android tablet that is good for displaying photos. Big enough that photos are reasonably easy to see. I also want to be able to point to photos in one directory, and be hand the tablet to someone without having to worry overmuch that they might a

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-13 Thread Bill
On 13/02/2013 6:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote: When I had time, but no money, my plan had been to root a nook color for displaying photos. Out of the box, the UI on the nook sucks soggy lint. However, in reasonable light the display isn't bad. Compared to my S3, the display on the nook isn't so grea

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 February 2013 12:15, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Yep, software issue as far as directory security goes. I use the > QuickPic app and it does what you want. I use QuickPic on my Android Phone too, I went through a few and it's probably the most utilitarian and least fluffy. > -- > Mark Roberts

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-13 Thread kwaller
Hard to beat the ipad IMO. I have a bunch of images on my wife's first gen ipad and they look great. Later versions of the ipad have improved screens but I've yet to see one. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subj

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-13 Thread Larry Colen
>> >> What tablets would fit the bill, and how much do they cost? > > > While I was in hospital, my family bought me a Samsung Galaxy Note > 10.1 (16 GB, WiFi version). I have nothing to compare it with but it > seems fine for displaying photos. > > It doesn't have a USB port built in, but you can

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-13 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Larry Colen : When I had time, but no money, my plan had been to root a nook color for displaying photos. Out of the box, the UI on the nook sucks soggy lint. However, in reasonable light the display isn't bad. Compared to my S3, the display on the nook isn't so great either, just a bi

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >I'd like an android tablet that is good for displaying photos. Big enough >that photos are reasonably easy to see. I also want to be able to point >to photos in one directory, and be hand the tablet to someone without >having to worry overmuch that they might accidentally see

Re: Android tablets for showing photos?

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
iPad display is awesome. OS isn't much of a factor for flipping through photos. That being said my iPhone 5 is light years ahead of my moto droid 2. Paul via phone On Feb 13, 2013, at 7:26 PM, "Larry Colen" wrote: > When I had time, but no money, my plan had been to root a nook color for > dis