Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-06 Thread wendy beard
--- John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Higher resolution is fine, but I'm baffled by the need for a faster buffer. I spot the potential picture, get ready, and take it. If it's a moving or changing subject I wait for the right moment, near as I can guess, and press the button. I

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-06 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:40:07 -0400 (EDT), wendy beard wrote: Now and again it's good to let loose and do a bit of machine gunning. :-) As others have mentioned, even if you're not machine gunning, a faster camera is ready for the next shot that much faster, too. Not that I don't enjoy machine

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-05 Thread Frantisek
LM But something else strikes me as rather interesting: is the difference in LM RAW file size between *istD and D70 really that big? Why would that be so, LM considering both cameras store basically the same amount of image LM information? Or don't they? If I remember correctly: First, Ist D

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
shot, thanks for showing it Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:28 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) Thirty years ago I used to shoot

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-05 Thread Cory Papenfuss
First, Ist D stores it as 16-bit uncompressed file, even though there are only 12 bits from the sensor. Correct... 4 out of 16 bits are taking up space storing NO information (zeros) on the -D. That's one pixels' worth in 2 bytes. On the -DS they pack the bits so that they get two pixels in

RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-04 Thread Leon Mlakar
-Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 1:36 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) in terms of megabytes/s, my 2-3 times stands. the difference is made up

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-04 Thread Herb Chong
megabyte per megapixel with their lossless compression. Herb - Original Message - From: Leon Mlakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 7:45 PM Subject: RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) But something

RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-04 Thread Markus Maurer
*ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) Hello John, Here is a very simple example. You are shooting a wedding - the party is coming up the aisle two by two - there are 8-10 groups coming through in short order. You are shooting raw. You shoot one, wait about 2-3 seconds, shoot the next, etc

RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-04 Thread Markus Maurer
4:28 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) Thirty years ago I used to shoot drag racing with a Speed Graphic 4x5. Most of the time I would shoot off a tripod, swapping or flipping film holders between shots. I would

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) Hello John, Here is a very simple example. You are shooting a wedding - the party is coming up the aisle two by two - there are 8-10 groups coming through in short order. You are shooting raw. You shoot one, wait about 2-3

RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-04 Thread Markus Maurer
Maurer Subject: Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) I thought that I had mentioned the issue there. I do, in fact, have two bodies and sometimes it works to do just as you suggested. The times it doesn't work are when I am using my flash system on a big

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-04 Thread David Savage
LOL Try going through any door with a spear through your head. That's a neat trick. Dave S On 6/4/05, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] most things are possible Try going through a revolving door with a spear through

RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) and how did people managed that with 36 exposures per fim? mishka On 6/2/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the proper moment might be 10-20 times a minute for a few minutes

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) hell, I still use large formant and you only get one exposure ( well two

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread pnstenquist
?User_number=stenquistimagecount=14 - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) hell, I still use large formant

RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread Leon Mlakar
- Original Message - From: Leon Mlakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:31 PM Subject: RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) That's a long time, indeed. Something you do not think about with film camera

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread Herb Chong
they didn't take as many pictures and didn't get as many good shots. Herb - Original Message - From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread Herb Chong
which works when you have two similar lenses. some people can afford a pair of A* 400/2.8s. i can't. Herb - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread Herb Chong
most things are possible if you don't have to make a living at it, or even just break even. Herb - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] most things are possible Try going through a revolving door with a spear through your head :-) Christian

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread Graywolf
with a 127mm Wollensak lens. http://www.portfolios.com/zoom.html?User_number=stenquistimagecount=14 - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-03 Thread Mark Cassino
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:10 PM Subject: Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] most

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread P. J. Alling
That usually works but sometimes the unexpected happens. John Dallman wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shel Belinkoff) wrote: Higher resolution and a faster, bigger buffer make sense, shouldn't add bulk or weight to a camera. Higher resolution is fine, but

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello John, Here is a very simple example. You are shooting a wedding - the party is coming up the aisle two by two - there are 8-10 groups coming through in short order. You are shooting raw. You shoot one, wait about 2-3 seconds, shoot the next, etc. The problem is that the buffer fills

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread mike wilson
John Dallman wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shel Belinkoff) wrote: Higher resolution and a faster, bigger buffer make sense, shouldn't add bulk or weight to a camera. Higher resolution is fine, but I'm baffled by the need for a faster buffer. I spot the

RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Leon Mlakar
Here's another - taking candid portraits of a young kid who is moving around and you are catching some great facial expressions. Click, click, click as you go. Suddenly you he puts on the cutest grin and the BUFFER is FULL. In my personal experience, even with 4.5fps PZ-1P the young kid

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
You may have misunderstood, I am not taking consecutive shots with a motor drive, these are single shots fairly close together - could even be done without a winder. But you are right in that the kid will grin when you are not ready. It is just that with the *istD and full buffer, you are not

RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Leon Mlakar
Bruce, I did understand what you meant - I was just trying to make a little joke out of it. I apologize if it led to confusion. Cheers, Leon You may have misunderstood, I am not taking consecutive shots with a motor drive, these are single shots fairly close together - could even be done

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
You raise a good point. I do have two *istD's and sometimes use both of them. Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. I don't have identical lenses at all focal lengths so it can work if there is enough crossover with the lenses I have. Times it hasn't worked too well is when I have the

RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
in such cases may be helpful.. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Dallman) To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 6/2/2005 1:30:58 PM Subject: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shel Belinkoff

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:30 +0100 (BST), John Dallman wrote: [...] I'm baffled by the need for a faster buffer. I spot the potential picture, get ready, and take it. If it's a moving or changing subject I wait for the right moment, near as I can guess, and press the button. Sometimes a machine

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Herb Chong
- From: John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:30 PM Subject: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) Higher resolution is fine, but I'm baffled by the need for a faster buffer. I spot the potential picture, get

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Herb Chong
: Leon Mlakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:31 PM Subject: RE: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?) That's a long time, indeed. Something you do not think about with film camera. But, if the figures for Nikon D70

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Mishka
then perhaps you should shoot on (mini-)DV and print the stills? mishka On 6/2/05, Leon Mlakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's another - taking candid portraits of a young kid who is moving around and you are catching some great facial expressions. Click, click, click as you go.

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Mishka
and how did people managed that with 36 exposures per fim? mishka On 6/2/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the proper moment might be 10-20 times a minute for a few minutes

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread John Francis
Two bodies. On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:15:50PM -0400, Mishka wrote: and how did people managed that with 36 exposures per fim? mishka On 6/2/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the proper moment might be 10-20 times a minute for a few minutes

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Alan Chan
--- Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and how did people managed that with 36 exposures per fim? In the old days experience shooters predicted and shot, modern shooters just shoot and pray. :-) Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __

Re: Buffer speed (Re: Why choose *ist DL over Nikon or Canon competitors?)

2005-06-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Jun 2005 at 21:30, John Dallman wrote: Higher resolution is fine, but I'm baffled by the need for a faster buffer. I spot the potential picture, get ready, and take it. If it's a moving or changing subject I wait for the right moment, near as I can guess, and press the button. When