Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Herb Chong
; To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? I found that the *ist D takes noticeably longer to wake up using a MD. The Rob Galbraith tests whilst useful don't take this into account and they don't include Pentax DSLRs in their tests from recollection?

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually I'm still using it. Rob Studdert wrote: On 25 May 2005 at 1:27, P. J. Alling wrote: Maybe, maybe not... http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/cfcardassnack.html But did it still work? http://www.sandisk.com/pressrelease/20040823.htm :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Hah! :) I've taken a liking to several Italian Pinot Grigios. On a hot summer evening, very well chilled, with some fresh blueberries and some Blueberry Stilton cheese... friends f

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This one did: > > Wow... and I thought having one of my CF cards go through the washing machine and still working was impressive Christian

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/5/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: >I've taken a liking to several Italian Pinot Grigios. On a hot summer >evening, very well chilled, with some fresh blueberries and some Blueberry >Stilton cheese... friends from Canada that never come to visit, I have >rarely enjoyed anything mor

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Tom C
lliam Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:23:04 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? I'm not arguing that if price were

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? I'm not arguing that if price were no consideration and that if CF and microdrives were equal or close in price, I'd buy CF. It's the fact that their is currently a larg

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Tom C
flawlessly and was used to restore new PDA of same model . Tom C. From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Tom C Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:55:30 +0200 Hello, I think MDs can be pretty tough - friend has the

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Tom C
: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:58:06 -0600 - Original Message ----- From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? I'm not buying the wine a

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Frantisek
Hello, I think MDs can be pretty tough - friend has the first 1GB version from IBM, purchased when it came out, and it still works after two DSLRs in PJ environment. I think most HDDs have heads that automatically park in emergency position when there is power interruption, and once that happened

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm considering buying a 2GB CF card now that prices have dropped. Here's the last one I bought: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=82239 -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
>> Maybe, maybe not... >> >> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/cfcardassnack.html > >But did it still work? > >http://www.sandisk.com/pressrelease/20040823.htm This one did: Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Place

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/5/05, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: > >I'm considering buying a 2GB CF card now that prices have dropped. > >B&H offer me: > > Sandisk $146.95 > Sandisk Ultra II (60x)$179.95 > Sandisk Extreme $199.95 > San

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Thibouille
. that specification does not > >>>> > >>> > >>> equate > >>> > >>> > >>>> with 'don't work well'. > >>>> > >>>> For you who lives essentially at sea level, it

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 May 2005 at 1:27, P. J. Alling wrote: > Maybe, maybe not... > > http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/cfcardassnack.html But did it still work? http://www.sandisk.com/pressrelease/20040823.htm :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Maybe, maybe not... http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/cfcardassnack.html William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? I'm not buying the wine as an investment though... I'm buying it as an ingestment.

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Graywolf
rodrive usage. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/4gb-hitachi.shtml Tom C. From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:47:13

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? I'm not buying the wine as an investment though... I'm buying it as an ingestment... You'd still be better off with a CF card instead. William Robb

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 May 2005 at 22:15, Herb Chong wrote: > according to Rob Galbraith, the *istD is equally fast with high speed solid > state and Microdrive cards and limited by the relatively slow performance of > the > drive controller in the camera. i don't know if the *istDS is the same. I found that the

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Herb Chong wrote: 1G in RAW mode isn't enough for a good hour of shooting. Surely that depends on what you are shooting? (since "what" will influence "how fast") Also will depend on your shooting style.

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Herb Chong
Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:20 PM Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Sandisk $146.95 Sandisk Ultra II (60x)$179.95 Sandisk Extreme $199.95 Sandisk Extreme III $219.95 Adorama al

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Herb Chong
1G in RAW mode isn't enough for a good hour of shooting. Herb - Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? I agree at the 1GB point, but compare at the 4GB capacity

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Herb Chong
faster cards are much faster on a Firewire CF reader. i use the newest Lexar one. easily twice as fast as a USB 2.0 High Speed one. Herb - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: Re: CF

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Herb Chong
C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:21 AM Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? In my opinion the price difference more than outweighs any performance concerns. As far as reliability, I've had no problems with my microdrive.

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 May 2005 at 19:54, Tom C wrote: > I guess that's where I differ. I'm betting it won't fail and that if it > did, it's just as likely that it would fail on the 1st shot or the 50th, as on > the 280th (the number of raw shots I figure I can store). OK, my card is usually at least at a GB be

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 May 2005 at 21:20, John Francis wrote: > > I'm considering buying a 2GB CF card now that prices have dropped. > > B&H offer me: > > Sandisk $146.95 > Sandisk Ultra II (60x)$179.95 > Sandisk Extreme $199.95 > Sandi

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The cost difference to me in like paying once off insurance, 4GB sure holds a lot of images, I'd be rather irritated if I lost that many in one hit in the case of a failure. I guess that's where I differ. I'm betting it won't fail and that if it

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/24/2005 6:21:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will the Ultra II be faster than the basic Sandisk? Yes. I have two Ultra II cards. I like them. But I haven't tried the other ones in your list. Marnie aka Doe

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread John Francis
I'm considering buying a 2GB CF card now that prices have dropped. B&H offer me: Sandisk $146.95 Sandisk Ultra II (60x)$179.95 Sandisk Extreme $199.95 Sandisk Extreme III $219.95 Adorama also have:

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 May 2005 at 17:51, Tom C wrote: > What I've attempted to say is that, if one wants to save a fair amount of > money over a larger size compact flash, a microdrive is a viable > alternative. I agree, it's an alternative. > All things considered, if I can save $150 - $200 by purchasing a 4

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread P. J. Alling
roblem. Luminous Landscape has an article regarding microdrive usage. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/4gb-hitachi.shtml Tom C. From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: n

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
Dyslexia's setting in. I obviously meant DSLR... :( Tom C. I'm only pointing out the obvious, that microdrives are made to work with DLSR's and DLSR's are made to work with microdrives, and the price difference for larger capacities is still significant enough to make me ponder. Tom C

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
R's are made to work with microdrives, and the price difference for larger capacities is still significant enough to make me ponder. Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Tom C Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
. >>From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? >>Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:50:46 +1000 >> >>On 24 May 2005 at 16:50, Thibouill

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 May 2005 at 17:12, Tom C wrote: > Hi Rob, > > But for the larger sizes, microdrives are 1/3 to 1/4 the cost of CF. Not now, check prices, 1/2 where I buy, the peace of mind is worth it. > I don't care that a microdrive may be a second or so slower than a CF card. > It's usually many seco

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
L PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:50:46 +1000 On 24 May 2005 at 16:50, Thibouille wrote: > I guess normal is: > * faster ? > * less power consumption > > while Microdrive is:

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 May 2005 at 16:50, Thibouille wrote: > I guess normal is: > * faster ? > * less power consumption > > while Microdrive is: > * cheaper :D > > While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is > it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer? I just ri

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
I'm not buying the wine as an investment though... I'm buying it as an ingestment... Tom C. From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:55:33 -0600 - O

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? In my case, saving money on a 4GB microdrive (only $160)... 4 1GB CF crads would be $250-$280, a 4GB flash is $400+. Buys a few bottles of Italian wine. If you are buying Italian wine,

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Thibouille
article regarding microdrive usage. > > > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/4gb-hitachi.shtml > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > >From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdm

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
And you can tell by how poorly I composed the last paragraph that a few more bottles of Italian wine is exactly what I need. Tom C. In my case, saving money on a 4GB microdrive (only $160)... 4 1GB CF crads would be $250-$280, a 4GB flash is $400+. Buys a few bottles of Italian wine.

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I just worry about putting all my eggs in one basket. I wouldn't >want a 4 gig CF card either, although I think CF is less likely >to fail than a microdrive. I carry 4 1 gig cards and 3 half gig cards. >They'll fit in a pocket. I don't feel encumbered. And > should one

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
rive (only $160)... 4 1GB CF crads would be $250-$280, a 4GB flash is $400+. Buys a few bottles of Italian wine. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:40:24 + I

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread pnstenquist
than 1GB so I don't have to manage alot of CF's. > > Tom C. > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? > >Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:48

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:48:37 + With 1 gig CF cards now selling for eighty bucks or so, I can't think of any good reason to go with a microdrive. The fewer moving parts, the better. Paul > Actually what i said is th

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
For those who might be interested, this page has a breakaway photo of the drive, as well as other information. Kind of interesting if you've never seen the inside of one of these puppies ;-)) http://www.steves-digicams.com/microdrive.html Shel > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I guess normal is: * faster ? * less power consumption while Microdrive is: * cheaper :D While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer? I've got 2 1GB Sandisk Ultra II cards... They work just fine. I

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread pnstenquist
gt; Glad we cleared that up. > > Shel > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Date: 5/24/2005 10:02:27 AM > > Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? > > > > Not a problem at all Shel. It's

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Actually what i said is that they don't work well =at high altitudes=, not that they don't work well. Glad we cleared that up. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 5/24/2005 10:02:27 AM > Subject: RE: CF card: normal or M

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
;t work as well at 10,000 ft either. It's the same specification as for computers and laptop PC's in general, most any device containing a hard drive. Tom C. From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Su

Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not sure that a high speed card is even necessary for transferring to the computer. The camera doesn't actually take much advantage of it. I use a USB 2.0 hub and my not particularly special Lexar 1gig card takes about 2 minutes to xfer to the computer. If you can fill up another card in

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
ding microdrive usage. > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/4gb-hitachi.shtml > > Tom C. > > > > >From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
m/reviews/accessories/4gb-hitachi.shtml Tom C. From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:47:13 -0700 Microdrives don't work well, and may eve

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Microdrives don't work well, and may even fail to work, at high altitudes, above 9,000 feet. >From IBM: "The Microdrive does need "AIR" to float the heads and typically above 10,000 ft the mass of the air is too low and the drive requires a pressurized environment similar to an aircraft or spacec

RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-24 Thread Tom C
I use both 1GB Flash and 1GB microdrives. I find no important noticeable difference in performance. I just bought a 4GB microdrive for $160. Have not put in camera yet. In my opinion the price difference more than outweighs any performance concerns. As far as reliability, I've had no probl