Paul Stenquist wrote:
No real news. The first hearing was just to see if my daughter was
going to appear and to tell her not to leave the jurisdiction until
the case is settled. Our lawyer asked for a dismissal, but the judge
wants to hold the evidentiary hearing before ruling on that.
I hope everything turns out well for your daughter, granddaughter and
you, Paul.
Carlos
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/03/26 Mon PM 07:48:59 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
The father has a recent conviction for drug possession and no job,
yet UK legal aid still allowed him to bring this suit and apparently
On 3/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The nightmare had become reality.snip
Paul,
I've now read many dozens of replies in this thread, and really, I can
add nothing to this matter other than to send my best wishes to your
grandaughter (for it's her welfare that is everyone's
pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
The father has a recent conviction for drug possession and no job,
yet UK legal aid still allowed him to bring this suit and apparently
is paying the US lawyers $700 an hour for their services. Now our UK
friends know where there tax dollars
On 3/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The nightmare had become reality.snip
Paul, Trust it all works out in the end. The road can get rough tho.
Hang tough, best of luck.
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 01:30:53 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
Be happy:-). Just a cross cultural screw up on my part. Tax dollars
is such a common expression here that it slipped out unnoticed
Thanks Frank. I'm in good hands with the lawyers who are working on
the case. They have a lot of experience and are very thorough. I
think it will be handled quickly. Translation: I hope it will be
handled before I run out of money:-).
Paul
On Mar 27, 2007, at 9:41 AM, frank theriault wrote:
in a few weeks.
Paul
On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:06 AM, mike wilson wrote:
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 01:30:53 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
Be happy:-). Just a cross cultural screw up on my part. Tax dollars
Paul, I wish you the very best of luck with this horrible situation.
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on that. It will
probably happen in a few weeks.
Paul
On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:06 AM, mike wilson wrote:
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 01:30:53 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
Be happy:-). Just a cross cultural screw up
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Thanks Frank. I'm in good hands with the lawyers who are working on
the case. They have a lot of experience and are very thorough. I
think it will be handled quickly. Translation: I hope it will be
handled before I run out of money:-).
If the need arises, I wouldn't
On 27/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
If the need arises, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDML could generate
a defense fund for you. I'd certainly contribute.
If the scumbag can get legal aid, I don't see why Grace herself is not
entitled to it, being a Scot. It would be nice if
Thanks much. That's very thoughtful. I think we'll be fine. Time will
tell.
Many thanks to all who have responded. I will update the situation
when there is progress. That won't happen for at least a couple of
weeks.
Paul
On Mar 27, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Paul Stenquist
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
Thanks much. That's very thoughtful. I think we'll be fine. Time will
tell.
Many thanks to all who have responded. I will update the situation
when there is progress. That won't happen for at least a couple of
weeks.
Paul
On Mar 27, 2007
Of Paul
Stenquist
Sent: 27. mars 2007 20:13
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
Thanks much. That's very thoughtful. I think we'll be fine. Time will
tell.
Many thanks to all who have responded. I will update the situation
when there is progress. That won't happen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cotty
Sent: 27 March 2007 19:07
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
On 27/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
If the need arises, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDML
could
that's a one-way street.
Paul
On Mar 27, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Bob W wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cotty
Sent: 27 March 2007 19:07
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
On 27/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed
And that's the fault of the American legal system, not
the British legal system ...
While I wish you luck in your case, I think it's a great
deal better to have a verdict based on the merits of the
case, rather than on anyones ability to pay for lawyers.
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:41:13PM
John Francis wrote:
And that's the fault of the American legal system, not
the British legal system ...
While I wish you luck in your case, I think it's a great
deal better to have a verdict based on the merits of the
case, rather than on anyones ability to pay for lawyers.
When did that
It's not a travesty - it's a problem with two different systems
interacting. If this were being tried in a UK court the legal
aid system would provide a lawyer for the plaintiff, but it wouldn't
necessarily provide a lawyer from the most expensive firm in town
(or, at any rate, it wouldn't pay
John Francis wrote:
It's not a travesty - it's a problem with two different systems
interacting. If this were being tried in a UK court the legal
aid system would provide a lawyer for the plaintiff, but it wouldn't
necessarily provide a lawyer from the most expensive firm in town
(or, at any
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/03/25 Sun PM 11:51:45 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Wish Me Luck
The nightmare had become reality.
Chin up, Paul and family. No sensible court is going to give custody (and
maybe not even access rights)
I doubt it. The father is a penniless lout. The UK should have to
pay, but I doubt that anything like that can be made to happen.
Paul
On Mar 25, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Jim King wrote:
What a travesty to make of the legal system! Good luck, and may your
lawyer tie them in knots!
Regards, Jim
, if we choose.
Good luck Paul.
Cory
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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
John Francis wrote:
It's not a travesty - it's a problem with two different systems
On Mar 26, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Cotty wrote:
. If what you say is true, and
I'm sure it is, then you have nothing to worry about.
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Other than the six thousand dollars that I have to come up with. But
as I said, I appreciate your support.
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Hi Paul
I'm with Cotty here and can not believe that any law could force Grace to
leave the United states and her mother.
The judges will decide in favor of Grace.
I wish you all the power and luck you need.
Greetings
Markus
Our legal aid system is not perfect - far from it - but it does give
While I agree that this happens all too often, sometimes the little guys
*do* win. This one took on BASF.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=581631
-P
keith_w wrote:
When did that nicety show up in the U.S. jurisprudence system?
Almost without exception, you get a FAR better deal,
I really hope all goes well for ya'll Paul
Xing fingers
Dave
On 3/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's
father. He's an unemployed alcoholic, part-time
Cotty wrote:
Our legal aid system is not perfect - far from it - but it does give
everyone a fair crack at the legal whip. If what you say is true, and
I'm sure it is, then you have nothing to worry about.
Paul, I know someone who is going through a situation very much like
your own right now.
keith_w wrote on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:58:07 -0800:
(snip)
Misleading!
As I understand it, that child is in the custody of the mother, and
both
are currently living with blood relatives. It's not as tho' it were
kidnapped to a foreign country by non-parents.
Exactly! My problem is that one
In a message dated 3/26/2007 9:07:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Exactly! My problem is that one can apparently be brought into
court, requiring expensive legal representation, for reasons having
to do more with malice than with equity. The legal system needs
This thread did not show up until just now, strange.
Anyway, the best of luck to you, your daughter, and granddaughter in
this matter, Paul.
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Of course you could live somewhere where a simple allegation would get
you tossed into prison for several years with your property confiscated.
Sort of like they now do to alleged drug dealers here in the US.
But Marnie is correct. That is the purpose of a court of law, to
determine the facts
Mark, it seems to me that the amount of money spent by Paul might be
directly proportional to the strength of the lawyer of the opposite
side. But then again, it does not mean much to Grace or anything
really.
I do hope that justice and compassion will prevail and Paul's daughter
will emerge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/26/2007 9:07:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Exactly! My problem is that one can apparently be brought into
court, requiring expensive legal representation, for reasons having
to do more with malice than with equity.
On 26/3/07, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed:
I'm sure it won't do him any good to get into a flamosophical discussion
about what's right and good.
We can do nothing about his situation except to support him. We can be a
hurtful bunch though, if we choose.
Good luck Paul.
Fully agreed
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:09:59 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And how would they filter out cases without merit? They'd have to
hear both
sides. In other words, that is what bringing things into court does.
It would seem to me that the courts could review the cases being
brought and dismiss
My experience in the U.S. legal system (product litigation) is that a win is
more often based on the story being told the ones telling it then the
facts of the case @ hand.
Kenneth Waller
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From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
John
Good luck, and I'm sure common sense will prevail.
Sorry to say but I wouldn't bet on that !
Kenneth Waller
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
On 26/3/07, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed:
I'm sure it won't do him any good to get
:37
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Can we please let the merits of the case and the two court systems be and
just wish Paul luck?
I'm sure it won't do him any good to get into a flamosophical discussion
about what's right and good.
We can do nothing about his situation
- Original Message -
From: Kenneth Waller
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
Good luck, and I'm sure common sense will prevail.
Sorry to say but I wouldn't bet on that !
We can always hope it does. I'm not sure how the US court system comes to
judgement in family law
Again, thanks to all for the good wishes. The six thousand is just
for the first twenty hours of my lawyer's time. If it goes beyond
that, I'll have to pay more.
Paul
On Mar 26, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Mark, it seems to me that the amount of money spent by Paul might be
The father has a recent conviction for drug possession and no job,
yet UK legal aid still allowed him to bring this suit and apparently
is paying the US lawyers $700 an hour for their services. Now our UK
friends know where there tax dollars are going.
Paul
On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Jim
Hi Paul,
I'm sorry to hear about your problem. I wish you all the best of luck
and promise you our (me my family's) prayers.
Regards
Patrick
On 3/26/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
Marshall came to our front door
Yep. Remember, the court doesn't know about Paul, Grace and anything
else about the case that we do. All the court knows is:
- One child
- Two parents
- Each parent wants custody
It sucks, but at least paul seems to have found a lawyer
who's cutting
him a break: My friend with
- Original Message -
From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wish Me Luck
it seems to me that, however difficult this particular situation is
for Paul and his family, a system that gives everybody access to the
law - in spite of some iniquities - is preferable to one that gives
access
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cotty
Sent: 26 March 2007 06:29
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck
On 25/3/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
Thanks for your prayers, Jack. We might need them. BTW, my
it seems to me that, however difficult this particular situation is
for Paul and his family, a system that gives everybody access to the
law - in spite of some iniquities - is preferable to one that gives
access to the law only to rich people. Most modern democracies agree.
Regards
Bob
Agreed,
I think Paul would appreciate it if we did not turn this into the
great debate of legal systems.
I also think it took 110% of courage to even go to the lsit about this.
Lets give Steady the support the family needs.
Dave
On 3/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it seems to me that, however
Damn it!! Will be praying for the absolute best outcome. I think we all
feel as parents to your beautiful Grace.
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's
Good luck to you, Grace and the young Lawyer.
-Adam
Paul Stenquist wrote:
The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's
father. He's an unemployed alcoholic, part-time drug dealer who lives
near
Thanks for your prayers, Jack. We might need them. BTW, my rag about
the UK doesn't include our great PDML members, including Bob, Mike,
Cotty and others. They in fact advised me some time ago in regard to
this situation.
Paul
On Mar 25, 2007, at 8:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Damn it!! Will
So sorry to hear. I hope you can prevail tomorrow.
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Sunday, March 25, 2007, 4:51:45 PM, you wrote:
PS The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
PS Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's
PS father. He's an unemployed alcoholic,
Thanks Walter. I'm sure we'll prevail, but it might be expensive.
Paul
On Mar 25, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:
My prayers will be with you tomorrow.
Life sucks sometimes!
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Thanks for your prayers, Jack. We might need them. BTW, my rag about
the UK doesn't include our great PDML members, including Bob, Mike,
Cotty and others. They in fact advised me some time ago in regard
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In a message dated 3/25/2007 4:51:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's
father. He's an unemployed alcoholic, part-time drug dealer who
Best of luck on this, Paul. Any man that beats on a woman should die a
slow, painful death. Let's hope our legal system will see this guy for
what he is and settle the case in your favor.
-P
Paul Stenquist wrote:
The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
Marshall came
Good luck with this, Paul. I hope it all goes your
way.
I'll have to talk to my brother about this when I see
him tomorrow. I was wholly unaware that the legal
system worked that way in England. He's been a college
professor in Durham for the last decade. I'd like to
hear his take on this
Hi Paul,
Good luck. I hope that you'll get to keep Grace and do so without too much
trouble.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist
The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's
father. He's
he can counter sue.
On 3/25/07, Jim King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What a travesty to make of the legal system! Good luck, and may your
lawyer tie them in knots!
Regards, Jim
BTW, can you recover your legal fees if, as hoped, the judge tosses
the case out of court? It seems to me that
Paul, I'll be thinking of you and Grace. Neither of you deserves to deal
with this. I wish and hope that your lawyer friend will deal with this
issue swiftly and painlessly.
Boris
Paul Stenquist wrote:
The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
Marshall came to our
On 25/3/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
Thanks for your prayers, Jack. We might need them. BTW, my rag about
the UK doesn't include our great PDML members, including Bob, Mike,
Cotty and others. They in fact advised me some time ago in regard to
this situation.
Actually it
On 25/3/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States
Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's
father. He's an unemployed alcoholic, part-time drug dealer who lives
near Edinburg, Scotland. But like
True but easy to screw up, even with poloroid tests, and a PITA when
those 4x5 transparencys come back...
Doug Franklin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:55:49 -0400, Peter J. Alling wrote:
Auto parts are tough, especially if they are highly chromed performance
parts. Most art directors
don't
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From: Peter J. Alling
Subject: Re: OT: Wish me Luck
True but easy to screw up, even with poloroid tests, and a PITA
when
those 4x5 transparencys come back...
I was shooting 4x5 of some circuit boards for a local fabricator. I
had a great set up, everything
Good luck on this one Frank. I share your desires and understand all
the obstacles.
Paul
On Aug 1, 2004, at 5:12 PM, Juey Chong Ong wrote:
On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:37 PM, frank theriault wrote:
Wish me luck; I've applied for several
non-photography jobs, this is the first photo job I've
taken a
--- Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Auto parts are tough, especially if they are highly
chromed performance
parts. Most art directors
don't want to see the photographer or his equipment
on the product.
Why ever not? vbg
Besides, dude, it's my style...
g
-frank
=
--- Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sorry Frank, I could never give a Photographic
reference to someone who
might take me seriously, but good luck anyway.
That's okay, Peter.
I wasn't actually looking for your reference anyway...
vbg
Seriously, thanks!
-frank
=
The
Sorry Frank, I could never give a Photographic reference to someone who
might take me seriously, but good luck anyway.
frank theriault wrote:
Just fired off a resume/application to a local firm
that's looking for a catalogue photographer
(full-time, employee position).
Maybe I should have named
Auto parts are tough, especially if they are highly chromed performance
parts. Most art directors
don't want to see the photographer or his equipment on the product.
frank theriault wrote:
--- Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Luck! What kind of catalog?
Steve( hoping fo a cheap
Well we know where that pesky r got to...
William Robb wrote:
That would be the Strap On tools calender..
WW
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From: Don Sanderson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: OT: Wish me Luck
Holding a what
Don
-Original
--- Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well we know where that pesky r got to...
ROTFLMAO!!
-frank
=
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is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:55:49 -0400, Peter J. Alling wrote:
Auto parts are tough, especially if they are highly chromed performance
parts. Most art directors
don't want to see the photographer or his equipment on the product.
Light box and geometry.
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
On 27/7/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, offered:
Just fired off a resume/application to a local firm
that's looking for a catalogue photographer
(full-time, employee position).
Nice one Frank, best of luck.
Use me as a reference any time you like ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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|| (O)
Luck! What kind of catalog?
Steve( hoping fo a cheap thrill)
--- Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Luck! What kind of catalog?
Steve( hoping fo a cheap thrill)
Well, it can't get more mundane than this:
Auto Parts!
I'm just trying to figure out how I'll explain to them
the concept of creative blurring vbg. What do
you mean, you want the
repair in a heartbeat!
Don
-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Wish me Luck
--- Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Luck! What kind of catalog?
Steve( hoping fo
On 2004-07-27, at 18:37, frank theriault wrote:
Just fired off a resume/application to a local firm
that's looking for a catalogue photographer
(full-time, employee position).
Maybe I should have named this list-at-large as a
reference vbg.
Wish me luck; I've applied for several
non-photography
-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2004 6:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT: Wish me Luck
--- Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Holding a what
Don
One might think that missing r to be a typo. Or,
perhaps, a Freudian slip
--- Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm sending you all of the good vibes that I can
Frank. Fingers and toes
crossed for you!
BTW -
OMG, you are all such BOYS!!
Wenches, strap (or was it SNAP) ons
Get your minds out of the gutter and just wish Frank
good
A new one for the FAQ, BWBB.
Don
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From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT: Wish me Luck
I'm sending you all of the good vibes that I can Frank. Fingers and toes
crossed
On 27/7/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, offered:
Well, he's this crazy Englishman who carries around a
25 lb video camera to record news events. What's that
got to do with photographing a catalogue? Er, well,
not much, I guess. How well do I know him? Um, well,
I drank quite a bit of
The Parelli Calender is such a feather in a photographers hat that I would not
be suprised to find out that they bid against each other to get the position, I
will give you $100 thousand if you let me shoot your calender.
I'll give you 150.
Etc.
--
frank theriault wrote:
--- Steve Desjardins
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:37:22 -0400 (EDT), frank theriault wrote:
Just fired off a resume/application to a local firm
that's looking for a catalogue photographer
(full-time, employee position).
Best of luck, Frank. If you get it, just don't let it burn you out on
photography as art or hobby
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:16:45 -0400, Steve Desjardins wrote:
fairly spectacular models (holding a wench, of course). Try to
^
!
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:31:29 -0600, William Robb wrote:
That would be the Strap On tools calender..
!!! ROTFLMAO !!!
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Steve wrote:
Actually, some of the auto parts calendars I see in garages feature some
fairly spectacular models (holding a wench, of course). Try to
convince then to do one of these.
Are you sure it wasn't a wench holding the wrench?
Butch
Hi!
ft Just fired off a resume/application to a local firm
ft that's looking for a catalogue photographer
ft (full-time, employee position).
ft Maybe I should have named this list-at-large as a
ft reference vbg.
ft Wish me luck; I've applied for several
ft non-photography jobs, this is the
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