Hi!
When Cotty is not kidding and/or joking he appears to be quite wise
...
My comments interspersed.
C> I think that there is plenty of room for criticism in art, and Marnie is
C> right that any photograph can be criticised. However, it is whether or
C> not the criticism is heard, or even desir
I don't know why but i really like these type of night time sky line shots. I really
like
the coloured
reflections from the buildings in the water.The people in motion give it that
hustle-bustle feel.
Dave
> I haven't posted a pic for a while and I've b
Hi!
SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/robs-pic.jpg
SB> With bottom and top cropped.
SB> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I'd crop off the bottom, a little above that tiny yellowish spot on the
>> right. All that black on the bottom is just dead space that isn't doing anything,
>> ergo, con
I've always try to give my ideas as to how an image can be improved, wither
is compositionally or technically. As far as the subject material goes -
well I generally leave that alone.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: R
ement, but the instructors have to
be careful of not totally crushing the ego of the participant. For me,
that's one of the reasons for me to take the workshop, I want to be able to
see what they see.
Kenneth Waller
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From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Rob, I really like the feel/atmosphere of the this image. The blur in the
lower LH corner is a bit of a distraction, but all in all a great shot.
Kenneth Waller
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From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PAW - seated @ 1/4
> The pic contains all the EXIF data
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Cotty wrote:
> Art - and don't kid yourself: photography is art - is totally and utterly
> subjective.
Photography is as much art as pottery. There is Ming pottery and ASDA
plastic vases. My photography is ASDA plastic vases. There is a lot I
can learn by studying Ming and ev
I guess my problem with all this goes back to when I took a color photography
course at Henry Ford Community College in Dearborn 25-30 years ago. I took the
class because while I had about 20 years experience with B&W, I had almost zip
with color. Figured it would be a quick way to come up to sp
On 21 Feb 2004 at 1:30, Steve Jolly wrote:
> If I were to post a landscape shot though, I'd find comments like "an ND
> grad filter would have really helped there" *useful*, because chances
> are I'll be in that situation again sometime, and it's always nice to
> have some new things to try.
I
frank theriault wrote:
What I really dislike is the "you should have taken it from a different
angle" or "I'd have used a different lens", sort of thing. Sorry, too
late for that!! The shot is what the shot is. Your suggestion is of no
help to me now!
You seem to mostly shoot candid portaits
>In a message dated 2/20/2004 4:11:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm not being sarcastic or flippant when I say that, either. I'm just
thinking that this isn't the forum to post one's photos if one doesn't wish
to have them critiqued.
>cheers,
frank
That, of course,
> In a message dated 2/20/2004 3:41:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I'm just steady and it was shot whilst I was seated :-) You can see on my
left
my blurry friend who happened to bend down to retrieve something from her bag
just as I hit the shutter. Given that the sea
Or, if one doesn't want photos critiqued, don't post them.
I'm not being sarcastic or flippant when I say that, either. I'm just
thinking that this isn't the forum to post one's photos if one doesn't wish
to have them critiqued.
Or, one may post the photos, and then not read the responses...
In a message dated 2/20/2004 3:04:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Cotty:
>I think that there is plenty of room for criticism in art, and Marnie is
right that any photograph can be criticised. However, it is whether or
not the criticism is heard, or even desired that is the
On 20 Feb 2004 at 9:46, frank theriault wrote:
> Surreal!
No it was real :-)
> Beautiful!
Thanks, sometimes snapshots turn out to be a little bit more.
> Was it really taken at 1/4 sec? I'm guessing you had no room for a tripod where
> you were. How'd you get the buildings in the background
Hi,
> Marnie:
>>
>>I disagree. All photographs can have criticism applied. How else is one to
>>learn? And/or improve? Look at one own' photographs and think how one
>>could have
>>taken it differently. And have others do the same thing.
> Cotty:
> I think that there is plenty of room for criti
While I can see and understand your point, the suggestion
might be helpful in a future situation. In a similar scene
one might be tempted to shoot it similarly to an earlier
effort, but with someone's voice in your head, however
subtle, saying "try another approach," you might just do
that and get
y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW - seated @ 1/4
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:57:22 +
graywolf wrote:
but everytime
someone posts a photo, there are a bunch of folks that jump in and say you
should have made a different photo. That i
Graywolf :
>I often see photos that I wouldn't have taken, but I always feel that is
>because
>my vision is different from the person's who took it, and not that my way is
>better. I can see giving technical advice, but everytime someone posts a
>photo,
>there are a bunch of folks that jump
>In a message dated 2/20/2004 7:42:20 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I often see photos that I wouldn't have taken, but I always feel that is
because
my vision is different from the person's who took it, and not that my way is
better. I can see giving technical advice, but
graywolf wrote:
but everytime
someone posts a photo, there are a bunch of folks that jump in and say
you should have made a different photo. That is a bunch of crap.
I disagree - generally I see people jumping in and saying *they'd* have
made a different photo. As far as I'm concerned, I welcome
Well, we're not real editors, just playing around with
different ideas to perhaps stimulate some thought and
creativity. Just tossing about ideas.
I'm pretty firmly rooted in my vision, and generally
disregard suggestions about cropping and content (as far as
redoing a photo is concerned), but th
This is technically really good, I hate you...
At 11:40 PM 2/19/04, you wrote:
I haven't posted a pic for a while and I've been subterranean all this week
(don't ask) so I can really only submit something from last week.
The pic contains all the EXIF data that PS7 preserves and the lens was the
A2
above.
But, that's just me...
-frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW - s
Surreal!
Beautiful!
Was it really taken at 1/4 sec? I'm guessing you had no room for a tripod
where you were. How'd you get the buildings in the background so sharp if
it was handheld? Or are you just that steady.
cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.
On 20 Feb 2004 at 0:32, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/robs-pic.jpg
>
> With bottom and top cropped.
Hi Shel (Marnie et.al),
Thanks for the alternate perspective, I must admit I did just throw up the full
frame resized. I can see the benefits in a crop but I thi
I like that - landscape and candid portrait photography combined, and at
my favourite time of day, too :-)
S
Rob Studdert wrote:
I haven't posted a pic for a while and I've been subterranean all this week
(don't ask) so I can really only submit something from last week.
The pic contains all th
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/robs-pic.jpg
With bottom and top cropped.
It's incredible how much difference that makes.
Malcolm
>In a message dated 2/20/2004 12:31:05 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/robs-pic.jpg
>With bottom and top cropped.
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>I'd crop off the bottom, a little above that tiny yellowish spot on the
> >right. All that
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/robs-pic.jpg
With bottom and top cropped.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'd crop off the bottom, a little above that tiny yellowish spot on the
> right. All that black on the bottom is just dead space that isn't doing anything,
> ergo, contributing nothing to
Agreed, and perhaps a slight trim along the top as well,
just at or above the uppermost cloud. That seems to tighten
everything up quite nicely ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >In a message dated 2/19/2004 7:42:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >http://members.ozemail.c
>In a message dated 2/19/2004 7:42:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/imgp1792m.jpg
>Rob Studdert
Nice, very nice. Quite successful. Interesting color contrasts.
I'd crop off the bottom, a little above that tiny yellowish spot on
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