She was a New York Family Court Judge. She probably had to tone it down
for television.
E.R.N. Reed wrote:
John Forbes wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:23:03 -, Rob Studdert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10 Jan 2006 at 16:32, Jack Davis wrote:
US justice system is far from perfect,
government may represent the people, however, it's (at least here in us) a
quite separate, effectively, incorporated entity, that can make money, sue,
be sued... i cannot sue the people of connecticut, but i definitely
can do that to
the state of connecticut. e.g, when i am a victim, and the
I sent this to the List 5 days ago and it just got back to my mailbox.
(I wonder whence it wandered).
P. J. Alling wrote:
She was a New York Family Court Judge. She probably had to tone it
down for television.
E.R.N. Reed wrote:
John Forbes wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:23:03 -,
Ah, 'cause maybe it's a shitty place to be, especially if you don't want
to be someone's girlfriend?
Norm
John Forbes wrote:
Ever wondered why there are so many suicides in jail?
-Original Message-
From: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 January 2006 00:15
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:59:38 -, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know about you, but I'm getting worried
frank theriault wrote:
On 1/11/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunately, taking people's time away from them is also permanent, but as
you say, it's not a perfect system and we have to choose the least of many
evils.
I agree. Not that I want to fan the flames any further, but to
Frank's right. When a deranged individual does harm to somebody, there
may be some excuse or explanation. When the state does harm, through
incompetence or malice, there's no excuse. The damage done by a wrongful
conviction is enormous, and the damage is done to the victim's family and
Referring to the innocent being wrongfully convicted and jailed, I said:
It's a crime in
which we are all complicit, and for which we all bear some
responsibility.
And, upon reflection, Keith succinctly asked:
From where does *that* conclusion derive?
From democracy. You know,
On Jan 11, 2006, at 9:25 AM, frank theriault wrote:
Thomas Jefferson said that it was better for 100 guilty men to go
free than for one innocent man to be imprisoned. We've lost sight of
that these days.
Bob
Sir William Blackstone, an approximate contemporary of Jefferson, is
to have said:
Thomas Jefferson said that it was better for 100 guilty men to go
free than for one innocent man to be imprisoned. We've
lost sight of
that these days.
Bob
Sir William Blackstone, an approximate contemporary of
Jefferson, is
to have said:
Better that ten guilty persons
On 1/12/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blackstone and Jefferson weren't the first to express the same sentiment:
Abraham came forward and said, Will You sweep away the innocent along with
the guilty?
24 What if there should be fifty innocent within the city; will You then
wipe out the
~Not~ that I want to get into things religious, but...
Is this from the same God that destroyed the entire world by
flood, except one family and his pets in a big boat? Could
it be that every single person in the world was guilty except
Noah and his clan?
Hm...
Yup. That's the
John Forbes wrote:
Frank's right. When a deranged individual does harm to somebody, there
may be some excuse or explanation. When the state does harm, through
incompetence or malice, there's no excuse. The damage done by a wrongful
conviction is enormous, and the damage is done to the
This man was not convicted, but cautioned for
accessing some child porn images on the web. He
may have done it in error -- who knows. Now see
the result of the growing 'mob' hysteria.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/13/nkelly213.xmlDCMP=EMC-new_13012006
Don
Bob
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:23:03 -, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 10 Jan 2006 at 16:32, Jack Davis wrote:
US justice system is far from perfect, it's only the best one in the
world.
Yeah, Judge Judy airs here too. ;-)
Rob Studdert
He's quite the humourist, this Jack Davis.
On Jan 10, 2006, at 10:41 PM, Tom C wrote:
I would venture to say that none of us wants to see a guilty party
go free. Speaking for myself, I even more so, don't want to see an
innocent party found guilty and punished.
The first case is most likely one of justice (or retribution)
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, John Forbes wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:23:03 -, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 10 Jan 2006 at 16:32, Jack Davis wrote:
US justice system is far from perfect, it's only the best one in the
world.
Yeah, Judge Judy airs here too. ;-)
Rob Studdert
John Forbes wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:23:03 -, Rob Studdert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10 Jan 2006 at 16:32, Jack Davis wrote:
US justice system is far from perfect, it's only the best one in the
world.
Yeah, Judge Judy airs here too. ;-)
Rob Studdert
Judge Judy is a
On 1/10/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Someone proven by the courts to be guilty is likely to be guilty. I'm
happy with the risk he might be innocent. Balls away!
And I say let's bring back forced sterilization of mental deficients.
While we're at it, lobotomize idiots.
cheers,
frank
On 1/10/06, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some poor bastard in Virginia was executed. They are doing DNA testing
now to prove his innocence (sorry haven't followed up; don't know if was
completed or not). Sometimes the courts fail.
Here in Canada, we've had several cases over the
While some say that if you're charged and found guilty, you're more than
likely guilty.
However, in recent years, DNA testing, various civil liberty groups,
attorneys with a cause, and so on, have found that a greater percentage of
the guilty than ever before thought, were innocent.
Locking
On 1/11/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While some say that if you're charged and found guilty, you're more than
likely guilty.
However, in recent years, DNA testing, various civil liberty groups,
attorneys with a cause, and so on, have found that a greater percentage of
the
How so?
Jack
--- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 10, 2006, at 10:41 PM, Tom C wrote:
I would venture to say that none of us wants to see a guilty party
go free. Speaking for myself, I even more so, don't want to see an
innocent party found guilty and punished.
As you say, you're missing some posts.
The statement is a parroting of a formula comment picked up (professed)
in high school. It was offered with a curiosity about the reaction.
Rob, why the personal tone?
Jack
--- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, John Forbes
On 1/11/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas Jefferson said that it was better for 100 guilty men to go
free than for one innocent man to be imprisoned. We've lost sight of
that these days.
Bob
Sir William Blackstone, an approximate contemporary of Jefferson, is
to have said:
Ahh... Rob didn't say that. He said:
Yeah, Judge Judy airs here too
This is the problem with chopping emails up, people get miss quoted.
Dave
On 1/11/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As you say, you're missing some posts.
The statement is a parroting of a formula comment picked up
On 1/11/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the problem with chopping emails up, people get miss quoted.
That's Mister Quoted to you, buddy! vbg
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
oops...LOL
I'd prefer miss quoted...but to each there own.
;-)
Dave
On 1/11/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/11/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the problem with chopping emails up, people get miss quoted.
That's Mister Quoted to you, buddy! vbg
You're right, it was Kostas who used the personal tone. My apologies,
Rob.
Kostas?
Jack
--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ahh... Rob didn't say that. He said:
Yeah, Judge Judy airs here too
This is the problem with chopping emails up, people get miss quoted.
Dave
On
On 1/11/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
oops...LOL
I'd prefer miss quoted...but to each there own.
;-)
They're you go again!
g
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On 1/11/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They're you go again!
Or, perhaps I should have said: They're ewe go a gain...
g
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
From what I've heard, here in the US, there are states that forcibly
administer this medication while in prison. Some criminals voluntarily
enter the program because of the inability to repress the predatory
cravings.
P. J. Alling wrote:
This depends upon the criminal medicating himself.
Huh? You calling me sheepish?
Dave :-)
On 1/11/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/11/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They're you go again!
Or, perhaps I should have said: They're ewe go a gain...
g
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri
On 1/11/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Huh? You calling me sheepish?
Ewe're being a ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-d boy. LOL
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Jack Davis wrote:
You're right, it was Kostas who used the personal tone. My apologies,
Rob.
Kostas?
No, no personal tone in the gut feeling statement, went for a joke
that did not quite work. The metrics part you have answered. The
humorist comment is John's.
Kostas
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 06:31:13AM -0500, Bob Shell wrote:
On Jan 10, 2006, at 10:41 PM, Tom C wrote:
I would venture to say that none of us wants to see a guilty party
go free. Speaking for myself, I even more so, don't want to see an
innocent party found guilty and punished.
The
Okay, chase is over.
Jack
--- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Jack Davis wrote:
You're right, it was Kostas who used the personal tone. My
apologies,
Rob.
Kostas?
No, no personal tone in the gut feeling statement, went for a joke
that did not
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
While some say that if you're charged and found guilty, you're more than
likely guilty.
Hell, some say if you know a person charged, you are guilty by association.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: John Francis
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
The US Justice system isn't designed to provide justice.
A better name would be Punishment Revenge system.
That could also be an apt describer of the foreign policy system, but I
digress.
William
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
How so?
To start with, advocating the persecution of people who have not been
charged with a crime.
William Robb
While we're at it, lobotomize idiots.
What would be the point in that?
frank theriault wrote:
On 1/10/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Someone proven by the courts to be guilty is likely to be guilty. I'm
happy with the risk he might be innocent. Balls away!
And I say let's
On 1/11/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What would be the point in that?
Okay, not idiots (because generally, we're pretty docile). Lobotomize
schizophrenics. That better? g
cheers,
frank, who was just using hyperbole to make a point...
ps: hyperbole does not rhyme with
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
While we're at it, lobotomize idiots.
What would be the point in that?
I'll get back to you on that... I just sent a request for volunteers to the
Kodak Disc Camera Users Group. I'm sure someone will want the opportunity.
Tom C.
frank
You still feel frustrated by your insecurity?
Don't do it again and you may just get away with it..whatever it is.
Jack
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
How so?
To start with, advocating
Here is an example of people rushing wrongly to judgement. A local
council removed children from their families because some idiot believed
rumours about satanism. The consequences were devastating.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4602268.stm
There are always far too many
of similar news stories in the US.
Tom C.
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:15:56 -
Here is an example of people rushing wrongly to judgement. A local
council
of
champions of childrens' rights, thereby trampling on the rights of all,
parents, children, families.
Tom C.
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:15:56 -
Here
On 1/11/06, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is an example of people rushing wrongly to judgement. A local
council removed children from their families because some idiot believed
rumours about satanism. The consequences were devastating.
, your guilt is in doubt. At least that's how
it's supposed to work in theory.
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re:
Vigilant or Bloody Minded
While some say that if you're charged and found guilty, you're more than
likely guilty.
Hell, some
Foreign policy is that way in every country. Just some are more
straight forward than others.
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: John Francis
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
The US Justice system isn't designed to provide justice.
A better name would
Interesting that the social workers involved, who created this mess, are
now being protected:
BBC lawyer David Attfield told Today that the injunction had prevented the
naming of social workers to avoid identification by association of the
families.
Seems to me that the people who caused the
I guess that's better then...
frank theriault wrote:
On 1/11/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What would be the point in that?
Okay, not idiots (because generally, we're pretty docile). Lobotomize
schizophrenics. That better? g
cheers,
frank, who was just using
Tom C wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
While we're at it, lobotomize idiots.
What would be the point in that?
I'll get back to you on that... I just sent a request for volunteers
to the Kodak Disc Camera Users Group. I'm sure someone will want the
opportunity.
Tom C.
Not at all. No problem!
Thanks,
Jack
--- John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is an example of people rushing wrongly to judgement. A local
council removed children from their families because some idiot
believed
rumours about satanism. The consequences were devastating.
on the rights of
all,
parents, children, families.
Tom C.
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:15:56 -
Here is an example of people rushing wrongly
http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html
Marnie aka Doe
Marnie, I wonder how many of the crimes are committed multiple times by
those being released back onto the flanks of society.
Obviously, terms of sentences and rehab (yeah, right) facilities are
woefully inadequate.
Most troubling thing is that the law often allows for a stiffer
sentence than is
I'd like to see some footnotes on their facts. Don't think I'm
insensitive, but how the hell do you even claim a hard percentage on an
unreported crime. It's unreported! At best it's an educated guess, at
worst it's a number someone pulled out of their a**. It's not
surprising that a major
This thread is making me incredibly angry.
As a feminist is hard to resist ranting about people having their heads in
the sand.
Or make some comments about mcps. Or something similar.
Again, people seem to want to identify with the wrongly accused instead of
with the thousands and thousands
Of course not. Otherwise it would be spelt huperbole.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 January 2006 19:11
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
On 1/11/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED
that.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 January 2006 21:01
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
This thread is making me incredibly angry.
As a feminist is hard to resist ranting about people having
Castration, chemical or otherwise, does not guarantee any type of
prevention. But the tremendous reduction in testosterone is believed to
help the offender control the impulses greatly.
Tom C wrote:
When you get right down to it... does any kind of castration guarantee
that the offender
I feel the same way. Did you hear about the case in Vermont where the
judge gave an offender who had been raping a 6 year old girl for 4 years
only 60 days in jail? The judge said that because vermont did not have
a way of rehabilitating the offender, that it was not worth keeping him
in
LOL... seriously.
Tom C.
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:09:04 -0500
I'd like to see some footnotes on their facts. Don't think I'm
insensitive, but how
-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:40:35 EST
http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html
Marnie aka Doe
Until the justice system is 100% effective (which it never
ever can be, due to human error) we must avoid permanent
punishments, such as execution, castration, lobotomy, etc.
It's only humane...
unfortunately, taking people's time away from them is also permanent, but as
you say, it's
as anyone else.
Tom C.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:01:03 EST
This thread is making me incredibly angry.
As a feminist is hard to resist ranting about people having
That's ridiculous but how would it justify accusing, trying, convicting and
innocent person?
Tom C.
From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:18:27 -0600
I feel the same way
Very similar to what I just posted... read your thoughts after the fact, and
I agree 100%
Tom C.
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:23:45 -
People who are wrongly
On 11 Jan 2006 at 12:40, John Francis wrote:
The US Justice system isn't designed to provide justice.
A better name would be Punishment Revenge system.
I think the law system and personal justice are divergent entities in most
modern societies.
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel
On 1/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This thread is making me incredibly angry.
As a feminist is hard to resist ranting about people having their heads in
the sand.
Or make some comments about mcps. Or something similar.
Again, people seem to want to identify with the
Well written Frank.
Marnie for you to accuse me or othesr of having their heads in the sand, is
just, well, plain insulting.
Tom C.
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11
: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:18:27 -0600
I feel the same way. Did you hear about the case in Vermont where the
judge gave an offender who had been raping a 6 year old girl for 4
years only 60 days in jail? The judge said that because vermont did
not have a way
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Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:18:27 -0600
I feel the same way. Did you hear about the case in Vermont where the
judge gave an offender who had been raping a 6 year old girl for 4 years
only 60
Maybe you should do what I have managed to do, until now: ignore it.
But my feelings about this is that the effects of false accusations
are underestimated. They can really ruin someone's life.
First, I think of the fact that I lived next to Oppenheimer´s widow
in 1968, and think of what
Nagging wife can be just as effective. whimper
Jack
--- Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Castration, chemical or otherwise, does not guarantee any type of
prevention. But the tremendous reduction in testosterone is believed
to
help the offender control the impulses greatly.
Tom C
On 1/11/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunately, taking people's time away from them is also permanent, but as
you say, it's not a perfect system and we have to choose the least of many
evils.
I agree. Not that I want to fan the flames any further, but to me, an
innocent person
UTTERLY!
Jack
--- Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I feel the same way. Did you hear about the case in Vermont where
the
judge gave an offender who had been raping a 6 year old girl for 4
years
only 60 days in jail? The judge said that because vermont did not
have
a way of
-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:57:15 -0500
On 1/11/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunately, taking people's time away from them is also permanent,
but as
you say, it's not a perfect system and we have to choose the least of
many
evils
of wrongs do not make a right.
Tom C.
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:57:15 -0500
On 1/11/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunately
Jack Davis wote (with my replies interspersed):
Injustice through ignorance is a reality.
I agree.
Realizing that's the case, it's easy to say to yourself; I can't be
responsible for the
unthinking damage they are going to cause to all those connected.
I think the difference is I say to
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:59:38 -, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know about you, but I'm getting worried about being turned in
for dead horse abuse. :-)
Tom C.
Necrofillyphilia is the legal term.
John
--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Very funny!
Tom C.
I don't know about you, but I'm getting worried about being turned in for
dead horse abuse. :-)
Tom C.
Necrofillyphilia is the legal term.
John
That last message may be exactly that for this thread. It was to
satisfy my need for closure.
Lets see, where did I put that camera.
Jack
--- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jack Davis wote (with my replies interspersed):
Injustice through ignorance is a reality.
I agree.
Realizing
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Foreign policy is that way in every country. Just some are more straight
forward than others.
Well, not really, but you aren't in a position to discuss this one, and it
is so far off topic
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Legally if you are charged and found guilty, you are guilty. That's a
tautology. Whether you've committed
the crime that you're guilty of is beside the point. In most of the
English speaking world
- Original Message -
From:
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html
I've always been amused by the we don't know anything so we'll make it up
method of deriving statistics.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
I guess that's better then...
Okay, not idiots (because generally, we're pretty docile). Lobotomize
schizophrenics. That better? g
Some 50 or so years ago, Saskatchewan used to routinely sterilize
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
It even happens in sleepy small town Saskatchewan, Canada (I'm sure
Wheatfield is familiar with this one):
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/martin/
All it takes is an enthusiastic social worker, a police
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
You still feel frustrated by your insecurity?
Don't do it again and you may just get away with it..whatever it is.
Jack, I feel frustrated by your stupidity sometimes.
Other than that, I'm pretty stable
In theory.
Tom C.
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:33:26 -0600
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
- Original Message -
From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
What's the point? The fact that crimes are comitted does not justify
comitting other crimes to catch the criminal. And if it's not the
criminal who's caught, but an innocent person, what was accomplished
Wiiliam Robb wrote:
Some 50 or so years ago, Saskatchewan used to routinely sterilize mental
deficients.
I take it you just squeaked by then... could not resist... wide open... wide
wide wide open. :-)
Tom C.
- Original Message -
From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
I take it you just squeaked by then... could not resist... wide open...
wide wide wide open. :-)
I volunteered when I got married, on the theory it's better to do the right
thing yourself if those in charge
Why the personal tone?
Jack
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
You still feel frustrated by your insecurity?
Don't do it again and you may just get away with it..whatever it
is.
Jack
I donno, he has no children...
(Yes I know I'm baaad).
Tom C wrote:
Wiiliam Robb wrote:
Some 50 or so years ago, Saskatchewan used to routinely sterilize
mental deficients.
I take it you just squeaked by then... could not resist... wide
open... wide wide wide open. :-)
Tom C.
On 10/1/06, Kevin Waterson, discombobulated, unleashed:
My decision is to do nothing, I am too close to the heat to make
a cool headed decision. I will await the trial and see what the
justice system hands out.
Kind regards
Kevin
That is the most cool-headed decision you could have made if I
In a message dated 1/10/2006 12:35:04 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My decision is to do nothing, I am too close to the heat to make
a cool headed decision. I will await the trial and see what the
justice system hands out.
Kind regards
Kevin
That is the most cool-headed
As I understand it, many paedophiles were themselves the victims of sexual
abuse when young. When they grow up they act the only way they know.
So the victim becomes the perp, and thus is a victim twice over.
Justice has a difficult job to do. Children need protection, and
incarceration
frank theriault wrote:
No sir!! With the greatest of respect,you are wrong. First
of all, in this case, no one admitted to anything. Secondly,
one's rights don't end when they confess. There are any
number of very good reasons that one may confess to a crime
they didn't commit. In
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