Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 9/8/2010 10:34 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version),

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread Toralf Lund
Christine Nielsen wrote: Greetings, all--- Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version), but it turns out I overlooked the missing D when I placed

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling
The D means it's optimized for digital. 1. It has special coatings and a revised /special/ optical design to minimize the faults that digital is err to. (I think this is mostly marketing hype, a good lens is a good lens and makes good photos, a bad lens can still be fun). 2. It used to

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread Toralf Lund
Toralf Lund wrote: Christine Nielsen wrote: Greetings, all--- Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version), but it turns out I overlooked the

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine, The DFA 100mm f2.8 Macro has a 49mm front filter size vs 58mm on the older versions. This might make a difference if you're planning on using a ringflash as 49mm is easier to find. I've shot a lot with the A100mm f2.8 Macro (no autofocus) and quite like it. It's not suprising to hear

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: On the other hand, the FA probably feels a lot more like a real lens, and you can drop it on the pavement from a fair height without breaking anything, or at least that's true for the similar F-version, which I have

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:40 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:  The D means it's optimized for digital. 1.  It has special coatings and a revised /special/ optical design to minimize the faults that digital is err to.  (I think this is mostly marketing hype, a good lens is

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, The DFA 100mm f2.8 Macro has a 49mm front filter size vs 58mm on the older versions. This might make a difference if you're planning on using a ringflash as 49mm is easier to find. Oooh... ringflash! Now

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread David Parsons
The biggest difference in coatings is that the rear surface of the rear lens element is coated to minimize internal reflections between the rear element and the sensor. Film lenses didn't have (or need) this coating, since the film emulsion is not smoothly reflective like the glass filter

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread David Parsons
If you want to play with one, I've got one you can borrow. I don't use it much. Let me know before a club meeting and I'll bring it in for you. I've got the Sunpak 8R, and it has 49, 55, and 58mm adapters (along with the native 52mm on the ring). On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Christine

Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?

2010-09-08 Thread Christine Nielsen
Thanks, David! I just might take you up on that offer at some point... On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:33 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to play with one, I've got one you can borrow.  I don't use it much.  Let me know before a club meeting and I'll bring it in for you.

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jul 2, 2010, at 13:53 , John Sessoms wrote: The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated flash is installed? E.G. like with a

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Jul 3, 2010, at 1:56 AM, Bob W wrote: All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to enable second curtain sync any time I want, with any flash. IIRC, both my Sony R1 and my Canon 10D allowed the same. The algorithm is very simple: the flash is triggered about 300ms before

RE: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
Start here, and click through about 8 snaps: http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6207819_large.html Interesting juxtaposition of Morris dancers and this: http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6217916_large.html it's all a continuum I can't quite figure out what's

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to enable second curtain sync any time I want, with any flash. IIRC, both my Sony R1 and my Canon 10D allowed the same. The algorithm is very simple: the flash is triggered about 300ms before the second curtain is released. So it obviously

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread mike wilson
John Sessoms wrote: The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated flash is installed? E.G. like with a radio-sync transmitter or Vivitar

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread mike wilson
mike wilson wrote: John Sessoms wrote: The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated flash is installed? E.G. like with a radio-sync

RE: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread Bob W
All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to enable second curtain sync any time I want, with any flash. IIRC, both my Sony R1 and my Canon 10D allowed the same. The algorithm is very simple: the flash is triggered about 300ms before the second curtain is released. So it

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread Jos from Holland
Hi John, I think it could be done in _software_ to make it work for any flash, but it would require a bit complicated menu to give the camera the required information about P-TLL or center contact only or expected burn time. In the Z-1 time I measured burntime of several flashes at hand, they

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread Jos from Holland
Last sentence should be read as: I donot know if my K20 has the same info in the _flash trigger pulse_. Jos from Holland wrote: Hi John, I think it could be done in _software_ to make it work for any flash, but it would require a bit complicated menu to give the camera the required

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: paul stenquist On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:53 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the hot-shoe also

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: mike wilson mike wilson wrote: John Sessoms wrote: The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated flash is installed? E.G.

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to enable second curtain sync any time I want, with any flash. IIRC, both my Sony R1 and my Canon 10D allowed the same. The algorithm is very simple: the flash is triggered

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread P N Stenquist
Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560size=lg On Jul 3, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to enable

RE: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread Bob W
Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560size=lg that's a great shot! I watched American Graffiti again on Thursday evening, on French TV. I'd forgotten how good it is, and what a lot of great actors are in it (and I had no idea they

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread Brendan MacRae
Here's my K10D/540 combo work with trailing curtain: http://www.primelensphoto.com/trailing_curtain/index.html -Brendan - Original Message From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 8:20:21 AM Subject: Re

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread Jos from Holland
John, maybe it tells the flash digitally through the communication line that it has to use the trailling edge of the triggerpuls of the camera for triggering the flash (that would be the same principle as on the Z-1) If it works like that, your adapter board will be very simple :-) Greetz,

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread P N Stenquist
Thanks Bob. On Jul 3, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Bob W wrote: Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560size=lg that's a great shot! I watched American Graffiti again on Thursday evening, on French TV. I'd forgotten how good it is, and what a

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:20 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560size=lg Nice. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-03 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks Godders. Trailing curtain and cars kind of go together. I don't use it often enough. Paul On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:20 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash.

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:53 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated flash is installed?

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-02 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:53 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the hot-shoe also fire on the trailing

Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:21 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:53 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing curtain sync. How

Re: thoughts, questions, a story ...

2007-01-17 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A strange feeling. I still have three exposures to go on that roll of film. Nice story, well written. Thanks Godfrey. I am wondering if I can still write my name on paper. Sure, I can type it, see below :-) Never had good hand-writing anyway. On

Re: thoughts, questions, a story ...

2007-01-17 Thread Mark Dalal
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once that bunch headed out, I pulled out the laptop and started poking at some more photos from the NY trip and from my junta to Nashville, TN. I also pulled out the Pentax 645 and started fooling with it, framing a composition of the tables and chairs

Re: thoughts, questions, a story ...

2007-01-17 Thread Gabriel Cain
Adam Maas wrote: Interestingly enough, I know a number of people who started shooting digital who are now shooting film as well. It's an experience for them, and I've noticed that their shooting typically improves noticably (probably due to them taking extra care with the limited number of

Re: thoughts, questions, a story ...

2007-01-16 Thread Adam Maas
Interestingly enough, I know a number of people who started shooting digital who are now shooting film as well. It's an experience for them, and I've noticed that their shooting typically improves noticably (probably due to them taking extra care with the limited number of film exposures per

Re: thoughts, questions, a story ...

2007-01-16 Thread David J Brooks
It is strange, and errie at the same time. Up until a year ago, i had little difficulty in buying, developing and getting prints of BW film. Now its a 1 1/2 hour trip and more expensive, due to more gas, and higher rates by the new guy. Digital Ps have been out long enough, that your 20

Re: thoughts, questions, a story ...

2007-01-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: thoughts, questions, a story ... Yesterday I had a few errands to run but also wanted to just get out of the house for a bit. So I threw the laptop into the Timbuk2 and added, with a moment's thought, the Pentax 645 fitted with

Re: thoughts from the road

2006-11-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/11/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: We are subject to language scrutiny these days. Can't afford to get sloppy. ..ier. ;-))) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: thoughts from the road

2006-11-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good to hear your enjoying the road trip. Wish I was there. Looking forward to your pics. Paul On Nov 17, 2006, at 8:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: i'm in salt lake city now. stopped for a dinner break and the place has wi-fi ... hehehe on hybrid-electric-spaceship-gizmo-car: Freekin'

Re: thoughts from the road

2006-11-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
I meant to say: Good to hear you're enjoying the road trip. We are subject to language scrutiny these days. Can't afford to get sloppy. Paul On Nov 17, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Good to hear your enjoying the road trip. Wish I was there. Looking forward to your pics. Paul On

Re: Thoughts on the digital format

2006-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 16/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more accurate autofocus, wireless, etc. But the only real direction I can see is software. I.e. focus fix after the

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-16 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more accurate autofocus, wireless, etc. But the only real direction I can see is software. I.e. focus fix after the fact, software guided panoramic

Re: Thoughts on the digital format

2006-10-16 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 16/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more accurate autofocus, wireless, etc. But the only real direction I can see is software.

Re: Thoughts on the digital format

2006-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Gonz wrote: Kinda like 35mm SLR cameras since 1982, in my opinion. I never found anything that did a substantially better job than my Nikon FM/FE2/F3 SLRs or Leica M6 in 35mm. Exactly. No real progress. It seems like sensors are reaching the zone of

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm interested to see is how the manufacturers will sell the next gen cameras give than in all reality APS sized sensors are at 12MP IOW as dense as is practical WRT lens technology and minimum photo site size. Should be interesting. thats the 12million

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more accurate autofocus, wireless, etc. But the only real direction I can see is software. I.e. focus fix after the fact, software guided panoramic stitching in camera, automatic

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
On 10/14/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lenses that cover the 35mm frame will likely be phased out as soon as Pentax stops making film SLR cameras altogether. Don't forget the D-FA 200 300 on the lens Roadmap I still have hopes for a future Pentax full frame body. Dave -- PDML

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If one were to be technically accurate, then one would understand that an APS-C sized digital sensor represents a different format from 35mm film. The different format being 18x27mm (or whatever, I'm not going to go look it up). This is as

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image area and lenses that mos

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote: From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image area and lenses

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Olympus do that with the 4/3? How are they doing? Maintaining the K mount (to a degree) means that Pentax can crawl back to a 36x24mm sensor body if APS sensor line runs out of steam. 4/3 was destined to fail from the start (and

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: The JCO survey And this is the point some are try to help you understand. Pentax makes more profit from new users ( long time users) who buy new products accessories, as apposed to the minimal profit they

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I like to use 16x24 actually a bit smaller for Pentax sensors a tiny bit bigger for actual film APS. But close enough. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: The JCO survey And this is the point some are try to help you understand. Pentax makes

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote: From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Thibouille
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image area and lenses that mos likely aren't optimal for the APS DSLR format. IE one big

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Kavoussanakis wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote: From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I wouldn't say fail, it depends on your definition of success. After all it's from the same people who brought us instamatic 126, 110, aps cartridge and disk film. It was just meant to be redundant in 15-20 years, too bad the digital world moves so much faster. Digital Image Studio wrote:

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey An interesting idea would be to keep the mount, shorten the register and sell an AF extension tube for older lenses that makes up the difference. Best of both worlds. Good idea

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: Lenses that cover the 35mm frame will likely be phased out as soon as Pentax stops making film SLR cameras altogether. Haven't they already stoped manufacturing film SLR's? I know there three currently on their web site, but I was under the impression they were just

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey Haven't they already stoped manufacturing film SLR's? I know there three currently on their web site, but I was under the impression they were just selling off stock that has

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. (Olympus E)

2006-10-14 Thread John Celio
By rights, they should have introduced a whole new lens line with a shorter register difference. I imagine that they both knew how that would have gone over with the present user base, and didn't have the financial resources to do it. A compromise on several levels. Didn't Olympus do that

Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/4/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: If you havn't noticed On 10/4/06, Gabriel Cain, discombobulated, unleashed: is a regular joke (I believe) from Cotty. No joke! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

RE: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. april 2006 09:25 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test) On 11/4/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed

RE: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've always found the comment to be somewhat insulting and not at all funny. I've mentioned it to Cotty, but hey, he likes it and no one else has complained, so WTF. Now there's two of us ... not that that will change anything. Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby Seriously, Cotty.

Re: RE: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-11 Thread mike wilson
It's a real but anachronistic and/or vernacular word. It means disorientated. From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/11 Tue PM 01:25:52 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test) Sorry. Forgot, Cotty never makes jokes

Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-11 Thread graywolf
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test) Sorry. Forgot, Cotty never makes jokes, that’s part of his act ;-) Seriously, Cotty. Are you serious? As I read your heading it is a friendly insult. Have I got it completely wrong? Tim Mostly harmless (just

Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 11, 2006, at 7:42 AM, mike wilson spake thus: It's a real but anachronistic and/or vernacular word. It means disorientated. Discomfitted and disconcerted are other elements of being discombobulated. I've always just ignored it as it means as much as spake thus in the context of

Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-11 Thread Gabriel Cain
It seemed pretty apt for my 20D comment. ;^) I didn't take it as an insult. Or not more than a friendly one, anyway. Gabriel graywolf wrote: Means confused discombobulate discombobulate (dîs´kem-bòb´ye-lât´) verb, transitive discombobulated, discombobulating, discombobulates To

RE: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
: Gabriel Cain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. april 2006 18:28 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test) It seemed pretty apt for my 20D comment. ;^) I didn't take it as an insult. Or not more than a friendly one, anyway

Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/06, Gabriel Cain, discombobulated, unleashed: notably the 20D with a full 36mm x 24mm sensor That's the 5D or the 1Ds Gabe. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-10 Thread Gabriel Cain
Cotty wrote: On 10/4/06, Gabriel Cain, discombobulated, unleashed: That's the 5D or the 1Ds Gabe. *face palm* That's true. Very discombobulated. Gabriel

RE: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Gabriel Cain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10. april 2006 18:56 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test) Cotty wrote: On 10/4/06

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-26 Thread Mishka
i tried 20mm/2.5 and didn't particularly liked it, although, for thr money it's hard to beat. It flares easily, large (82mm) and very heavy (allmetal build), and QC is so-so. mine was quite sharp though. best, mishka. On 3/25/06, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone has any experience with

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have one and enjoy its curvilinear distortion. I also have the DA14, which I prefer for most of my ultrawide work, but the Zeni is a very very good lens for something that costs $140 or less, new. Two of my favorites so far: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/25p.htm

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread Adam Maas
Roman wrote: Anyone has any experience with Zenitar 16mm/f2.8 K-Mount fisheye lense? http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/zenitar_k_fisheye_lens.htm Peace, Dave Brooks and Frank both have it, I've seen some excellent stuff from both of them. -Adam

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread Toine
Yes I have one. On the D the FOV of a defished zenitar and rectilinear 16 mm on the 16-45 are almost identical. The 16-45 is much much better. The zenitar fisheye effect is only of interest on analog bodies. Toine On 3/25/06, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone has any experience with Zenitar

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Roman Subject: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any? Anyone has any experience with Zenitar 16mm/f2.8 K-Mount fisheye lense? I had one for a while. It's actually quite a good lens. I think Frank has it now. William Robb

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread Toine
Here's a sample: http://360.leende.net/zenitar/test.jpg I don't have a similar shot from the 16-45. Contrast of the 16-45 is better and the zenitar is non SMC. The zenitar price is :) On 3/25/06, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I have one. On the D the FOV of a defished zenitar and

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread Bertil Holmberg
Some thoughts and links here – http://mac.tidings.nu/PinkyPentax/ Z16mmFE.shtml Regards, Bertil

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Toine wrote: Here's a sample: http://360.leende.net/zenitar/test.jpg I don't have a similar shot from the 16-45. Contrast of the 16-45 is better and the zenitar is non SMC. The zenitar price is :) I've played with Frank's Zenitar 16mm fisheye and I'll confirm this general assessment. Flares

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread David J Brooks
Yes. I bought mine from this company. Good to deal with. Sent my 16mm by airmail. Three weeks to my house. I recommend this outfit, They didi a good deal with me. Dave Quoting Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone has any experience with Zenitar 16mm/f2.8 K-Mount fisheye lense?

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread David J Brooks
Exactly why i bought it Mark. $180 Canadian for my P mount. Keep it out of the sun and its great, Dave Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Toine wrote: Here's a sample: http://360.leende.net/zenitar/test.jpg I don't have a similar shot from the 16-45. Contrast of the 16-45 is better

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread Mishka
i used to have one. it's great on film, and pretty much useless on D. best, mishka On 3/25/06, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone has any experience with Zenitar 16mm/f2.8 K-Mount fisheye lense? http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/zenitar_k_fisheye_lens.htm Peace, -- home

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread Russell Kerstetter
http://photonotes.org/reviews/zenitar-fisheye/

Re: Thoughts on Russian K-mounts, any?

2006-03-25 Thread Fred
Anyone has any experience with Zenitar 16mm/f2.8 K-Mount fisheye lense? http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/zenitar_k_fisheye_lens.htm Nothing against the Zenitar 16/2.6 fisheye, but there ~are~ other Russian K-mount lenses. So, in the spirit of the thread's title, are there any thoughts on

Re: Thoughts on the FAJ 18-35mm?

2006-01-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Yuan-Juhn Chiao wrote on 03.01.06 11:42: Right now, I'm looking for a decent budget wide-angle zoom to cover. I would spring for the 16-45, but at 430 Euros, it's simply too much. I could obtain the original *istD kit lens (FAJ 18-35) new for around 100 Euros, around the cost of the current

Re: Thoughts on the FAJ 18-35mm?

2006-01-03 Thread John Forbes
No, it's not really that bad. For the price it's pretty good, and might even exceed your expectations. However, at that price, your expectations should not be sky high! John On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 10:42:57 -, Yuan-Juhn Chiao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a newcomer to the

Re: Thoughts on the FAJ 18-35mm?

2006-01-03 Thread Adam Maas
However, for the same money, the 18-55 is a better lens. Unless you also want a ultra-wide zoom with no aperture ring for a film body (the 18-55 on covers 24-55 on a film body). -Adam John Forbes wrote: No, it's not really that bad. For the price it's pretty good, and might even exceed

RE: Thoughts on Sunpak flashes?

2004-08-24 Thread Jens Bladt
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 24. august 2004 03:44 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Thoughts on Sunpak flashes? Later versions work exactly that way, I have an earlier version that only rotates 90° left or right for 180° of motion. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt

Re: Thoughts on Sunpak flashes?

2004-08-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2004, Sid Barras wrote: I'm without a flash for my MZ S. (Or the PZ 1 and the MZ 5n either) -- that is, unless the 280T works with the AF models. But I don't think so. It does: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/hot-shoe/index.html

RE: Thoughts on Sunpak flashes?

2004-08-23 Thread Jens Bladt
the camera). I have to use a Metz flash for that. Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 23. august 2004 13:33 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Thoughts on Sunpak flashes? Kostas

Re: Thoughts on Sunpak flashes?

2004-08-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: Thoughts on Sunpak flashes? The only problem with the AF280T is that it can't shoot in opposite direction of the lens (which I use when shooting downwards, pointing the camera at the cieling above and behind the camera). I have

Re: Thoughts on Sunpak flashes?

2004-08-23 Thread Peter J. Alling
Later versions work exactly that way, I have an earlier version that only rotates 90° left or right for 180° of motion. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: Thoughts on Sunpak flashes? The only problem with the AF280T is that it can't shoot

Re: Thoughts on PAWs

2004-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, To be fair, it wasn't my idea. It's been going on over at the Leica lists for some time. I just mentioned it here thinking it might be an enjoyable option for some folks. shel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a side effect, seeing everyone's pics is certainly increasing my motivation about

Re: Thoughts on the FA* 28-70 F2.8

2003-02-12 Thread Joseph Tainter
Mark, look in your owner's manual at the lenses listed toward the back. See whether it includes some of the more recent lenses, such as the limiteds (and which limiteds). the FA 24-90, the new FA 28-105, etc. When I recently bought a new FA* 24 f2.0, the list of lenses in the manual told me

Re: thoughts on the 77mm limited lens

2002-12-06 Thread Fred
definition only uses a few focal lengths--no zooms, nothing over 135mm if that, no macro (no, the DR doesn't count s). I've found myself more and more using only a 35mm and 85/90mm lens. Well, this post ~is~ about a zoom, but it responds to your point, Bob. I've been using the ol' VS1

Re: thoughts on the 77mm limited lens

2002-12-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
On my most recent trip, I shot 99+ % with the 20-35 or the 50 1.4. I used the 50 mainly for speed reasons. I had never been a fan of wide angles, and I thought I would force myself to think in that mode. It worked fairly well, although the f4 was slow, and a tripod was impractical. One

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