Re: K20D & back focus

2008-02-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" Subject: Re: K20D & back focus > I've never really noticed any back/front focusing issues, but you folks > are making me paranoid. Is there a good kind of shot for testing this? > I'm thinking of using the

Re: K20D & back focus

2008-02-25 Thread Steve Desjardins
be a good indicator or would other conditions be better? >>> mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/25/2008 3:53 PM >>> A better way of saying what I was trying to > > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/02/25 Mon AM 11:26:58 GMT > To: Pentax

Re: K20D & back focus

2008-02-25 Thread mike wilson
A better way of saying what I was trying to > > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/02/25 Mon AM 11:26:58 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: K20D & back focus > > I think it's more likely that the sensor's focus plane

was Re: K20D & back focus

2008-02-25 Thread Roman Melihhov
I'm most positive that Izumi Taniguchi who contributed allot to explaining tips and tricks of K10D shall cover back focus adjustments issue for K20D as soon as camera shall get on production lines. See Digiichi website here -> http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/special/digiichi/ One, -- K100D

Re: K20D & back focus

2008-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think it's more likely that the sensor's focus plane is more accurate rather than tighter than that of film. The focal point is the focal point. And since film is somewhat curved, it can never be totally accurate. Paul On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:58 AM, mike wilson wrote: > >> >> From: "Bob Sull

RE: K20D & back focus

2008-02-25 Thread Anthony Farr
The early Pentax DSLRs had IR cutoff filters in front of their imaging sensors that nevertheless transmitted enough near IR light to make a useful IR exposure with an R-72 or similar filter. Can you assert that the IR cutoff filter over the AF sensor is more absolute in its prohibition of IR light

Re: K20D & back focus

2008-02-25 Thread Carlos Royo
Anthony Farr escribió: > The difference between IR focus and visible wavelength focus is not constant > from lens to lens. Different designs of the same focal length can have > different IR focus corrections, and the correction is not necessarily > proportional when comparing lenses of different f

Re: K20D & back focus

2008-02-25 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reading the promo literature on the K20D, I noticed a new feature. > The camera has the ability to store adjustments for backfocus (or > forward) for 20 lenses. > The claim is that all the DA lenses are fine, but others may need adjusting. > > Any

RE: K20D & back focus

2008-02-25 Thread Anthony Farr
The difference between IR focus and visible wavelength focus is not constant from lens to lens. Different designs of the same focal length can have different IR focus corrections, and the correction is not necessarily proportional when comparing lenses of different focal lengths. UV transmission

Re: K20D & back focus

2008-02-24 Thread David Savage
At 02:38 PM 25/02/2008, William Robb wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Bob Sullivan" >Subject: K20D & back focus > > > > Reading the promo literature on the K20D, I noticed a new feature. > > The camera has the ability to store adjustments for backfocus (or > > forward) for 20 lenses. >

Re: K20D & back focus

2008-02-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: K20D & back focus > Reading the promo literature on the K20D, I noticed a new feature. > The camera has the ability to store adjustments for backfocus (or > forward) for 20 lenses. > The claim is that all the DA lenses are fine, but oth

Re: K20D Public Service Announcement

2008-02-22 Thread Toine
If I see it correctly the K20 has little or no purple fringing (CCD bleeding). That would be nice. I think I need one very badly to satisfy my occasional pixelpeeping addiction... On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Over on dpreview I've posted links to co

Re: K20D Public Service Announcement

2008-02-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice comparison shots, gives a good idea of what we can look forward to. Read the entire thread and now I remember why I don't read there much. Joseph Tainter wrote: > Over on dpreview I've posted links to comparison shots of the K10D at > ISO 1600 and the K20D at 1600, 3200, and 6400. > > ht

Re: K20D on its way...

2008-02-21 Thread Mishka
i've ordered one over the phone today at 4pm. apparently, they are available and ready to ship if you call, but not if you go to their web site. best, mishka On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:29 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neut eny moora > > > Jim King wrote: > > For those of you who

Re: K20D on its way...

2008-02-21 Thread Gonz
Esp image quality (dynamic range in particular) and high iso noise. Your report will be eagerly awaited... Gonz On 2/21/08, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, mine's here. First kid on the block, etc. > > Timely. I leave for Italy on March 8. Must somehow find time to give it > a

Re: K20D on its way...

2008-02-21 Thread Joseph Tainter
Okay, mine's here. First kid on the block, etc. Timely. I leave for Italy on March 8. Must somehow find time to give it a workout before then. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link d

Re: K20D on its way...

2008-02-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Neut eny moora Jim King wrote: > For those of you who don't look in on the DPReview Pentax SLR Forum, > Calumet Camera (http://www.calumetphoto.com/ ) has a few K20D bodies > in stock and is shipping them now. Joe Tainter should get his today > and mine is due to arrive tomorrow. If you're

Re: K20D on its way...

2008-02-21 Thread Peter Fairweather
Most people on this forum won't be bothered one way or the other ;-) Peter On 21/02/2008, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds cool. I'll be interested to hear what you think of it in use. :-) > > Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/lis

Re: K20D on its way...

2008-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sounds cool. I'll be interested to hear what you think of it in use. :-) Godfrey On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Jim King wrote: > For those of you who don't look in on the DPReview Pentax SLR Forum, > Calumet Camera (http://www.calumetphoto.com/ ) has a few K20D bodies > in stock and is shipping

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Adam Maas
On 2/8/08, Peter Fairweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christian > The Canon appears to be with the 17-85 lens at f/8. I can't find > anywhere particularly sharp. Poor control as you suggest. Also colour > fringing between black and white lines in the photo, could also be > lens related > > Adam

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
FWIW, the Canon 17-85 performed very poorly in the current dpreview lens tests. Jack --- Peter Fairweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christian > The Canon appears to be with the 17-85 lens at f/8. I can't find > anywhere particularly sharp. Poor control as you suggest. Also colour > fringing

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Peter Fairweather
Thiboiulle Thanks for this. I've put on my special VDU focal length glasses and blown up the images a bit on my 24" monitor. So that they just fit on the screen. Here are my completely unscientific conclusions. C*n** 40D. Rubbish, does not resolve the detail on the flower on the shoulder even at

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Christian
Peter Fairweather wrote: > Christian > The Canon appears to be with the 17-85 lens at f/8. I can't find > anywhere particularly sharp. Poor control as you suggest. Also colour > fringing between black and white lines in the photo, could also be > lens related The exif I saw for the ISO 100 image s

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Peter Fairweather
Christian The Canon appears to be with the 17-85 lens at f/8. I can't find anywhere particularly sharp. Poor control as you suggest. Also colour fringing between black and white lines in the photo, could also be lens related Adam Be interesting to see your Nikon picture in colour. What passes for

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
Jaded person! ;-) Jack --- Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack Davis wrote: > > K20D almost looks contrived. Larger thumbnail to, maybe, include > more > > dazzling red lips..hummm > > I hope it's an "honest" comparison to the extent possible. > > not a chance. Just another person just

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Christian
Peter Fairweather wrote: > > C*n** 40D. Rubbish, does not resolve the detail on the flower on the > shoulder even at low ISO. It was out of focus to begin with. if you look at the original full sized shot you can see that focus is on the near side of the doll's face and hair. what's rubbish i

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Christian
Jack Davis wrote: > K20D almost looks contrived. Larger thumbnail to, maybe, include more > dazzling red lips..hummm > I hope it's an "honest" comparison to the extent possible. not a chance. Just another person justifying a purchase. I don't compare... I shoot! -- Christian http://photograp

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
K20D almost looks contrived. Larger thumbnail to, maybe, include more dazzling red lips..hummm I hope it's an "honest" comparison to the extent possible. Jack --- Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting, for sure. We cannot know the exact test conditions and > blabla so weshould take

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Adam Maas
The Nikon's clearly have their NR turned off. They're far better, with very little loss of detail at high ISO, with NR on. D300 at ISO6400 (Largish and overharpened a bit): http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2183/2202637577_3713e01c51_o.jpg -Adam On 2/8/08, Peter Fairweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread David Savage
On Feb 8, 2008 8:15 PM, Peter Fairweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nikon D3 What a marketing con. ISO 25000 looks unusable. Obviously > dreamt up by the same marketing team who gave us burst mode in the > K20D. It depends how the RAW files are processed. >From what I've heard ACR is crap. How

Re: K20D Iso comparison with competing bodies

2008-02-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 08.02.2008, at 11:32 , Thibouille wrote: > Interesting, for sure. We cannot know the exact test conditions and > blabla so weshould take this with a grain of salt but I have to admit > I like those results :) > Cameras compared: K20D, A700, 40D, D300, D3. > > Initial post containing the links

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
> > I pay a subscription to Amateur Photographer!! > Perhaps a subscription cancellation accompanied by a stiff letter of complaint is in order.. Peter Fairweather wrote: > Give the guy some credit, he was a trailblazer who transcended the > petty link between the review of a camera and the ne

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
gt; quote was the real thing. I can't rememeber where I found this "origenal". >>>> But as I recall, it looked genuine to me. >>>> >>>> Tim Typo >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Scott L

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: > He's a charlatan and an idiot. He's a slightly less malignant version of Polyhead: He thrives on attention, positive or negative. I can't understand why people give it to him. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.n

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Peter Fairweather
Give the guy some credit, he was a trailblazer who transcended the petty link between the review of a camera and the need to actually hold it. Many have followed his lead. In next Tuesday's "Amateur Photographer" there is a comparison between the Canom 1DsIII, medium format film and the Mamiya ZD.

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Ken Waller
Great subject but I find it somewhat under exposed. !! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: K20D Kenny boy style > On 26/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:11:48PM -0500, Scott Loveless wrote: > Perry Pellechia wrote: > > Here is the original post archived for all eternity: > > > > http://web.archive.org/web/20040219184659/www.kenrockwell.com/pentax/istD.htm > > > > Where he admits: > > > > "I haven't played with it. I wi

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread David J Brooks
t;> There he admittes that he never had his hands on the D. I don't know if > > >> the > > >> quote was the real thing. I can't rememeber where I found this > > >> "origenal". > > >> But as I recall, it looked genuine to me. > > >> >

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Perry Pellechia
nds on the D. I don't know if the > >> quote was the real thing. I can't rememeber where I found this "origenal". > >> But as I recall, it looked genuine to me. > >> > >> Tim Typo > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From:

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
genal". >> But as I recall, it looked genuine to me. >> >> Tim Typo >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sent: Saturday, January 26,

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
Carp, now I did it... P. J. Alling wrote: > I think if he had a brain cell he'd try to charge it... > > Jack Davis wrote: > >> If 'he' had a brain cell he'd take it out and play with it. >> >> Jack >> --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> > I've never visited his site. Is th

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
How many times must I say this. Please, Please, Please, don't link to his site in a public archived forum. That's like being a pirate, setting up a beacon, to lure the unsuspecting, to crash on the rocks. Cotty wrote: > On 26/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> I've

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
I think if he had a brain cell he'd try to charge it... Jack Davis wrote: > If 'he' had a brain cell he'd take it out and play with it. > > Jack > --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a waste of time? >

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
27;so what?'. > > -- > Bob > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of P. J. Alling >> Sent: 26 January 2008 09:42 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: K20D K

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Jack Davis
> > But as I recall, it looked genuine to me. > > > > Tim Typo > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:04 PM >

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Scott Loveless
Perry Pellechia wrote: > Here is the original post archived for all eternity: > > http://web.archive.org/web/20040219184659/www.kenrockwell.com/pentax/istD.htm > > Where he admits: > > "I haven't played with it. I will presume image quality is the same as > the other real DSLRs like the Nikon D1

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Perry Pellechia
n't know if the > quote was the real thing. I can't rememeber where I found this "origenal". > But as I recall, it looked genuine to me. > > Tim Typo > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: &qu

RE: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Bob W
> > >I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a > >waste of time? > > Yes. > > > > 13 people, 12 brain cells. Amazing. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNS

RE: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Jack Davis
If 'he' had a brain cell he'd take it out and play with it. Jack --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a > > > >waste of time? > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > 13 people, 12 br

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Jack Davis
Go, Cotty!! Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 26, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Cotty wrote: > > >> I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a > >> waste of time? > > > > Yes. > > > > > > Before I break my perfe

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> > >Before I break my perfect record of ignoring boobs, explain to me why >viewing this is not a waste of time. LOL!!! You have me down pat. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Tim Øsleby
Typo - Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:04 PM Subject: Re: K20D Kenny boy style > Bob W wrote: >>> No but he claimed to get a pile of hate mail over his &quo

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 26, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Cotty wrote: >> I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a >> waste of time? > > Yes. > > Before I break my perfect record of ignoring boobs, explain to me why viewing this is not a waste of time. Go

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a >waste of time? Yes. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottys

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 26, 2008 10:02 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 1/26/2008 6:48:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a > waste of time? > > Godfrey > > = Snipped : . I didn't realize

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/26/2008 6:48:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a waste of time? Godfrey = Yes, actually. I found a good Photoshop technique there about a year and a half ago. I wasn't

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Scott Loveless
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Jan 26, 2008, at 6:04 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: > >> ... He's a charlatan and an idiot. > > Um, so why do people here bother with reading his site? > > I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a > waste of time? > No. But you should visit

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 26, 2008, at 6:04 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: > ... He's a charlatan and an idiot. Um, so why do people here bother with reading his site? I've never visited his site. Is there something there that isn't a waste of time? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdm

RE: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Jack Davis
e used it, but only a > little. I can see no reason for this to generate hate mail, or indeed > any reaction other than 'so what?'. > > -- > Bob > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Scott Loveless
Bob W wrote: >> No but he claimed to get a pile of hate mail over his "hands >> on" review >> of the Pentax *ist-D or maybe it was the Ds, I can't remember >> which and >> can't be bothered to read his reviews section to find out.. > > ...isn't that rather a Ken-ish approach? > > I've just

RE: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread Bob W
no reason for this to generate hate mail, or indeed any reaction other than 'so what?'. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of P. J. Alling > Sent: 26 January 2008 09:42 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
No but he claimed to get a pile of hate mail over his "hands on" review of the Pentax *ist-D or maybe it was the Ds, I can't remember which and can't be bothered to read his reviews section to find out.. Anyway he doesn't seem to respond to criticism well. He doesn't seem to understand what a

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread Jack Davis
I wonder if he reads the PDML and as a result, is maladjusted enough to publicly demean a camera system out of frustration at the criticism he sees. Jack --- David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 25, 2008 2:52 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I took the "whoop-de-do" as

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread Cymen Vig
On Jan 25, 2008 7:32 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 25, 2008 2:52 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I took the "whoop-de-do" as negative. Another way of saying; "so what". > > I probably have missed it, but I didn't see the same phrase when I > > looked a few min

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 25, 2008 2:52 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I took the "whoop-de-do" as negative. Another way of saying; "so what". > I probably have missed it, but I didn't see the same phrase when I > looked a few minutes ago. Yes thats what sent me over the edge Jack. I just looked again a

RE: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread Bob W
> > On Jan 25, 2008 10:13 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What a tool > > If I were a hammer I'd be offended right about now. > I don't think so. If you were a hammer you'd hammer in the morning, you'd hammer in the evening, all over this land. You'd hammer out danger, you'd

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread Jack Davis
I took the "whoop-de-do" as negative. Another way of saying; "so what". I probably have missed it, but I didn't see the same phrase when I looked a few minutes ago. Jack --- David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 25, 2008 12:15 PM, Peter Fairweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > It

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 25, 2008 12:15 PM, Peter Fairweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It might be rubbish but on this occasion he acknowledges his source > which is a direct paste from Pentax. Hence the rubbish?? It was his Woop de doo comment Peter. To me its better not to say anything then. Dave > > Peter >

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
This is bad, you don't want to add to his link count. It moves him up in the google ratings and he's already enough of a navigation hazard to new photographers as it is. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 1/25/2008 7:32:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > G

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread Peter Fairweather
It might be rubbish but on this occasion he acknowledges his source which is a direct paste from Pentax. Hence the rubbish?? Peter On 25/01/2008, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David J Brooks wrote: > > On Jan 25, 2008 1:47 AM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> David J Br

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
David J Brooks wrote: > On Jan 25, 2008 1:47 AM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> David J Brooks wrote: >> >>> I was curious to see what KR had to say. >>> >>> Direct quote lifted from his site. >>> >>> I'd say he's over welmed. >>> >>> "NEW: New Pentax Cameras and Lenses. Pentax

Re: K20D feature

2008-01-25 Thread Margus Männik
Yes. It does the trick - takes an empty frame, analyzes it and shows you a picture "map" of particles in sensor (image of sensor with lens mount), so you can concentrate cleaning to needed places. Also, camera saves the image to separate directory on memory card, so you can search for dust usi

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread David J Brooks
http://www.kenrockwell.com/ Don't blame me, you asked for it.:-) Dave. On Jan 25, 2008 10:16 AM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good analogy! > What's his sight address, Frank..or anyone? > > Thanks, > > Jack > > --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 24, 2008 8:13

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/25/2008 7:32:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good analogy! What's his sight address, Frank..or anyone? Thanks, Jack http://www.kenrockwell.com/ Really, don't bother, Jack. The first few reads are amusing, but it becomes very irrit

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread Jack Davis
Good analogy! What's his sight address, Frank..or anyone? Thanks, Jack --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 24, 2008 8:13 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was curious to see what KR had to say. > > > > Direct quote lifted from his site. > > > > I'd say he's

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread David Savage
On Jan 25, 2008 10:13 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a tool If I were a hammer I'd be offended right about now. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link d

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread frank theriault
On Jan 25, 2008 9:23 AM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel so cheap. Yeah, I slowed down and looked too. So did I... ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Subject: Re: K20D Kenny boy style > Mark Roberts wrote: >> Here's a quotation I should have put on the list in 2006: >> >> "The man is an idiot. Why bother to read his drivel?" >> - Bo

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 25, 2008, at 7:56, frank theriault wrote: > > He's like that roadside accident you pass by on the highway; It's on > the other side of the road, the cops and ambulance are there, you know > you can't do anything to help. You know you shouldn't slow down to > look but you do anyway... > I

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread frank theriault
On Jan 24, 2008 8:13 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was curious to see what KR had to say. > > Direct quote lifted from his site. > > I'd say he's over welmed. > > "NEW: New Pentax Cameras and Lenses. Pentax just announced the K20D > and K200D, as well as five new lenses. The K20

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 25, 2008 1:47 AM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David J Brooks wrote: > > I was curious to see what KR had to say. > > > > Direct quote lifted from his site. > > > > I'd say he's over welmed. > > > > "NEW: New Pentax Cameras and Lenses. Pentax just announced the K20D > > and K200D

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-24 Thread David Savage
At 03:47 PM 25/01/2008, Derby Chang wrote: >RiceWhine's HAR!!! Dave :-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-24 Thread Derby Chang
David J Brooks wrote: > I was curious to see what KR had to say. > > Direct quote lifted from his site. > > I'd say he's over welmed. > > "NEW: New Pentax Cameras and Lenses. Pentax just announced the K20D > and K200D, as well as five new lenses. The K20D is 14.6 MP, > whoop-de-doo. > > I'll have t

Re: K20D feature

2008-01-24 Thread Sandy Harris
On Jan 25, 2008 1:28 PM, Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Release says "...An improved Dust Reduction system ... > Seems to me that this would be a great addition to a vacuum cleaner. > ... Do you suppose Hotax (Hoya-Pentax) has thought of > merging with Hoover? > [Oops - I just realized

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Well at least he didn't make anything up... Adam Maas wrote: > And more accurate. > > -Adam > > On 1/24/08, Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well that's more detail than his usual reviews >> >> On Jan 24, 2008 8:13 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I w

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
I've had less than zero respect for him for some time. A quote from a friend of mine about someone else entirely. "He seems to be quite intelligent; Naa, he;s an a**hole." David J Brooks wrote: > I was curious to see what KR had to say. > > Direct quote lifted from his site. > > I'd say he's o

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-24 Thread Doug Franklin
Mark Roberts wrote: > Here's a quotation I should have put on the list in 2006: > > "The man is an idiot. Why bother to read his drivel?" > - Bob Shell To be "accurate" you'd have to do it as "The man [Ken Rockwell] is an idiot. Why bother to read his drivel?" -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ)

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Here's a quotation I should have put on the list in 2006: "The man is an idiot. Why bother to read his drivel?" - Bob Shell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and fo

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-24 Thread Adam Maas
And more accurate. -Adam On 1/24/08, Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well that's more detail than his usual reviews > > On Jan 24, 2008 8:13 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was curious to see what KR had to say. > > > > Direct quote lifted from his site. > > >

Re: K20D Kenny boy style

2008-01-24 Thread Perry Pellechia
Well that's more detail than his usual reviews On Jan 24, 2008 8:13 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was curious to see what KR had to say. > > Direct quote lifted from his site. > > I'd say he's over welmed. > > "NEW: New Pentax Cameras and Lenses. Pentax just announced the K

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