Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" Subject: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) > > > > Alan wrote: > > > > > Some news from Taiwan retailers (or just rumour) suggested some Pentax FA > > > lenses were not manufactured anymore (like FA100/2.8 & FA50/2.8

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread Alan Chan
I read the patent for the 118/2.4 too last year but it doesn't make sense for Pentax ro release another expensive Limited lens consider the last one (FA31/1.8) hasn't sold that well. This is especially true when people are saving money for DSLRs and digital lenses now. 87/2.4 is just too close t

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, Alan Chan wrote: > saving money for DSLRs and digital lenses now. 87/2.4 is just too close to > FA77 and would be a mistake imho. Why? Was it a mistake to have 50s at 1.4, 1.7 and 2.8 at the same time? I thought macros (like the 87 Paal is talking about) are a different ball

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread Thibouille
Why not an DA Limited series ? -Message d'origine- De : Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : samedi 17 juillet 2004 22:23 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) I read the patent for the 118/2.4 too last year b

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread Alan Chan
Why not an DA Limited series ? I guess most DSLR buyers are looking for practical and affordable lenses, instead of luxury lenses like the Limited which really aim for manual focus buyers. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MS

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-17 Thread John Francis
> > >Why not an DA Limited series ? > > I guess most DSLR buyers are looking for practical and affordable lenses, > instead of luxury lenses like the Limited which really aim for manual focus > buyers. Manual focus good - auto-focus bad. Manual focus good - auto-focus bad. Film-based SLR good

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
ROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) > I guess most DSLR buyers are looking for practical and affordable lenses, > instead of luxury lenses like the Limited which really aim for manual focus > buyers.

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jul 2004 at 7:41, Herb Chong wrote: > the ones that are paying attention to their images will discover that the > practical and affordable lenses are not good enough for the *istD. the lens > quality matters even more with a DSLR than with a film camera. What makes you say this Herb? All m

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Dario Bonazza
Alan Chan wrote: > Some news from Taiwan retailers (or just rumour) suggested some Pentax FA > lenses were not manufactured anymore (like FA100/2.8 & FA50/2.8 etc) because > they are expecting new lenses to replace them. But then again, nobody can > confirm. Just wait a few weeks and you'll see..

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jul 2004 at 14:12, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Just wait a few weeks and you'll see... I'll be more disappointed than ever if they start fixing areas of the lens line- up where it 'aint broke before they fix where it is i.e. down the wide/fast end. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
.. - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) > What makes you say this Herb? > > All my primes but for the FA24/2 seem up to the task.

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Mark Roberts
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'll be more disappointed than ever if they start fixing areas of the lens >line-up where it 'aint broke before they fix where it is i.e. down the wide/fast >end. Frankly, I have no problem with Pentax's lens lineup at all. I suppose I'd rather like a f

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Don Sanderson
e- > From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is > Dying) > > > my observations while scanning a lot of slides, mostly Provia 100F. >

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Original Message- > From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is > Dying) > > > my observations while scanning a lot of slides, mostly P

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
that's one factor. the other is the automatic 1.5 magnification of the center portion of the lens circle. Herb - Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: RE: Replac

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Don Sanderson
, July 18, 2004 8:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is > Dying) > > > that's one factor. the other is the automatic 1.5 magnification of the > center portion of the lens circle. > > Herb > - O

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Joseph Tainter
"that's one factor. the other is the automatic 1.5 magnification of the center portion of the lens circle." I'm not aware of magnification. It is a crop of the central part of the lens circle, giving a field of view that looks like a 1.5x magnification. Even the photography magazines seem to have

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Pål Jensen
Alan wrote: I read the patent for the 118/2.4 too last year but it doesn't make sense for Pentax ro release another expensive Limited lens consider the last one (FA31/1.8) hasn't sold that well. REPLY: I've no idea whether there will be more Limited lenses. I've heard though, that the MF/

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Bill Owens
- Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) > "that's one factor. the other is the aut

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Don Sanderson
think I understood what I just said! Don > -Original Message- > From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:05 PM > To: pdml > Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is > Dying) > > > "tha

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Don Sanderson
TECTED] > Subject: RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is > Dying) > > > But it seems that if you take the same information from a SMALLER > section of > the image circle, > Then enlarge that to the same size you would have using the FULL FRAME the

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jul 2004 at 21:40, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Makes no sense, for same AOV you are using shorter lenses and > have a smaller reproduction ratio with APS size formatvs FF 35mm. DOF > should not be same as 35mm full frame format. It should be more DOF > than 35mm. It might be a greater DOF in a

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
t: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) On 18 Jul 2004 at 16:21, Antonio Aparicio wrote: You correct Don. DOF is an issue for 1.5x cropped APS digital sensor cameras. Of course, having said that its only an issue if you enjoy a shallow DOF. For those who want greater DOF I

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Yes, but because of the crop factor your 85mm portrait lens is now a 132mm lens. Therefore for a portrait lens you would use say the 50mm, hence a different DOF, no? A. On 19 Jul 2004, at 01:20, Rob Studdert wrote: On 18 Jul 2004 at 16:21, Antonio Aparicio wrote: You correct Don. DOF is an issue

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Yes, but what about the old 85mm range which is what most people use for portraits? A. On 19 Jul 2004, at 03:53, Rob Studdert wrote: On 18 Jul 2004 at 21:40, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Makes no sense, for same AOV you are using shorter lenses and have a smaller reproduction ratio with APS size format

RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-19 Thread Don Sanderson
x27;m not aware of at work here? Don > -Original Message- > From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 6:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is > Dying) > > > Antonio

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
ginal Message- From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 6:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) Antonio wrote: "Shorter lenses have greater DOF and because you are using shorter lenses to get the s

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Jul 2004 at 7:39, Tom Reese wrote: > Antonio wrote: > > "Shorter lenses have greater DOF and because you are using shorter > lenses to get the same AOV as with 35mm you are therefore getting more > DOF." > > It doesn't work that way. If you shoot a full length portrait with a 135mm > lens

Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
: - Original Message - From: "Antonio Aparicio" Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) Yes, but because of the crop factor your 85mm portrait lens is now a 132mm lens. Therefore for a portrait lens you would use say the 50mm, hence a

Re: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)

2004-07-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Antonio Aparicio" Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) > Yes, but because of the crop factor your 85mm portrait lens is now a > 132mm lens. Therefore for a portrait lens you would