Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-)

Yes, but when talking about full frame, there was always the argument saying "there will be no FF because this means 'professionals' and Pentax covers this segment with its MF line". So no 'professionals' anymore? No upgrade path if you want to go beyond what APS-C sensors can offer (and what i

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00D and the K10D, why do they have "limited resources"? Tom C. >From: Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 08:18:35 -0700 (PDT) > &

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Who knows? I expect we'll at least see a 1.3 crop sensor at some point. Eventually, we'll see whatever the market can support. It's all about supply, demand and profitability. Things will sort themselves out. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAI

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Focusing it's "limited resources" are they key words, IMO. > > If Pentax had been making money hand over fist since the K100D and the K10D, > why do they have "limited resources"? > > > Tom C. > > >> From: Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED

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In a message dated 6/1/2007 9:55:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This will end with Hoya, and unless the Imaging division can stand on it's own, it will end soon thereafter. === If they drop P&S and expensive plans for a D645, then they may do quite well, si

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I have a very nice Pentax equipment kit that works well. - In the future, if I need something more and Pentax can't supply it, there will be other options. - In the future, if I need something more and Pentax can supply it, I'll be happy to buy Pentax. It is irrelevant to Pentax' future how o

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One of the things they plan to ramp up is P&S cameras, (it says so right in the text of the article), seemingly in the face of Pentax's low margins on these cameras. Most of these cameras are commodities, you can go into any camera or big box store and look at the various models an compare. I

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom C > Sent: 01 June 2007 17:06 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: RE: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > > There's still a lot of mixed messages. So who knows? > > Highly profitable DSLR's doesn&#

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The question was largely rhetorical. :-) Tom C. >From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" >Subject: RE: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:29:33 +0

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Rhetorical? On this list? Shirley you jest. Tom C wrote: > The question was largely rhetorical. :-) > > Tom C. > > >> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'&quo

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I wasn't jesting and don't call me Shirley. :-) Tom C. >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) >Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:45:17

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I loved "Airplane". Jak --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wasn't jesting and don't call me Shirley. :-) > > > > Tom C. > > > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >

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Roger!! Tom C wrote: > I wasn't jesting and don't call me Shirley. :-) > > > > Tom C. > > >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: R

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Hi! Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I have a very nice Pentax equipment kit that works well. > > - In the future, if I need something more and Pentax can't supply it, > there will be other options. > - In the future, if I need something more and Pentax can supply it, > I'll be happy to buy Pentax.

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On Jun 1, 2007, at 9:30 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > What if in the (near) future your K10D breaks down (G-d forbid) and > you > have no place to exercise your warranty? I've already made 4500+ exposures with it. I have a second Pentax DS body that has done 28,000 and shows no signs of giving

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e: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: sábado, 2 de junio, 2007 8:20:43 Asunto: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) On Jun 1, 2007, at 9:30 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > What if in the (near) future your K10D breaks down (G-d forbid) and

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- Original Message - From: "Jaume Lahuerta" Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) Yes, I see your point Godfrey. The problem is that I don't think that it applies to us, poor hobbyists ;-) (well, at least in my case). I don't amortize my equipment, I

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On Jun 2, 2007, at 7:53 AM, William Robb wrote: > Godfreys point is valid if: > A) There is no significant investment in equipment. I wouldn't say that I have "no significant investment" in equipment. My work doesn't require $50,000 worth of equipment, however. My Pentax kit (two bodies, eigh

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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Jun 2, 2007, at 7:53 AM, William Robb wrote: > >> Godfreys point is valid if: >> A) There is no significant investment in equipment. > > I wouldn't say that I have "no significant investment" in equipment. > My work doesn't require $50,000 worth of equipment, howeve

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On Jun 2, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > One thing to remember is that a professional kit for sports or > wildlife > shooting is extremely expensive, and the income isn't actually any > greater than a less expensive kit. Costs of doing business in those > fields mean that your amoritizati

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- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > On Jun 2, 2007, at 7:53 AM, William Robb wrote: > >> Godfreys point is valid if: >> A) There is no significant investment in equipment. > > I w

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On Jun 2, 2007, at 9:30 AM, William Robb wrote: > A 5K investment to run a business is not significant. If your bank > won't > back you that far, then either your business plan is pretty screwed > up, or > you are a screw up. 5K is not my total investment in the business. It's my investment

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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Jun 2, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> One thing to remember is that a professional kit for sports or >> wildlife >> shooting is extremely expensive, and the income isn't actually any >> greater than a less expensive kit. Costs of doing business in those >> f

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> > Godfrey, > > Your response ignores my entire point. I dunno where you got > Hobbyists > costs from what I posted, since I was talking about a pro shooter's > costs. My point is that certain types of work require much larger > investments in gear and thus you aren't going to be able to amo

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- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > Your response ignores my entire point. I dunno where you got Hobbyists > costs from what I posted, since I was talking about a pro shooter's > costs. My point is that

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- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > I do think Godfrey addressed this, as least as I read it. If the > initial outlay is so large that you can't amortize your capital costs > over 3-5 years (whatever), the

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Just tagging in my 2 cents with a general reply to the whole thread - I Samsung stays in the digital SLR market, there will be at least one reasonably priced k-mount on which to use those lenses. See you later, gs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http:/

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- Original Message - From: "George Sinos" Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > Just tagging in my 2 cents with a general reply to the whole thread - > > I Samsung stays in the digital SLR market, there will be at least one > reasonably priced k-

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Then force the resignation of the board and sell off the filter and glass business... William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "George Sinos" Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > > > >> Just tagging in my 2 cents with

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- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > Then force the resignation of the board and sell off the filter and > glass business... You must be Russian to be that pessimistic. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-D

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On 04/06/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The bottom line though is, whether working pro with an amortization plan, or > photo hobbiest with no need for such a plan, if you have a lot of glass, or > some very expensive pieces, at some point you reach a point with your kit > where swit

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No, just a believer in Karma, or maybe simply poetic justice. William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "P. J. Alling" > Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > > > >> Then force the resignation of the board and sel

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In a message dated 6/3/2007 3:44:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Then force the resignation of the board and sell off the filter and > glass business... You must be Russian to be that pessimistic. William Robb === Actually, I read that as optimistic, in

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- Original Message - From: "Digital Image Studio" Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > >> The bottom line though is, whether working pro with an amortization plan, >> or >> photo hobbiest with no need for such a plan, if you have

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In a message dated 6/3/2007 4:25:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> The bottom line though is, whether working pro with an amortization plan, >> or >> photo hobbiest with no need for such a plan, if you have a lot of glass, >> or >> some very expensive pieces, at som

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gt; From: "Digital Image Studio" > Subject: Re: Rv: Don't shoot the messenger ;-) > > >> >>> The bottom line though is, whether working pro with an >>> amortization plan, >>> or >>> photo hobbiest with no need for such a plan, if you h

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On 1/6/07, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed: >So no 'professionals' anymore? No upgrade path if you want to go beyond >what APS-C sensors can offer (and what is supported by the new line of K- >mount lenses)? My hat > still roasting. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O)