Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-16 Thread David Mann
On May 16, 2006, at 2:19 AM, Don Williams wrote: I suppose to be really safe one should copy the files twice and then keep the card untouched until all the images have been processed and archived or one reaches reaches 80 when its hardly going to matter any more. I just use film g -

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/15/2006 11:04:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suppose to be really safe one should copy the files twice and then keep the card untouched until all the images have been processed and archived or one reaches reaches 80 when its hardly going to

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/14/2006 12:31:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you insert a card into a reader and transfer the files to a Windows PC, you must then go through Windows' procedure to remove the card. But this shuts down that drive, so you can't insert another card

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That strikes me as courting disaster. Should there be a problem when xfering the files, you may have lost the originals. Shel [Original Message] From: Don Williams Same here -- and I choose 'Cut' not 'Copy' when transferring. When they've been 'Pasted' to the hard drive there's nothing

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/14/2006 5:33:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did that once with a 1/2 full 1 gig CF card. When the card was reinserted in the camera it could hold only 40 instead of the 78 or so PEF files it could normally hold. The space was freed up after

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:09:10AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/14/2006 5:33:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did that once with a 1/2 full 1 gig CF card. When the card was reinserted in the camera it could hold only 40 instead of the 78 or so

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Thibouille
I do not have this problem. If I put another card, it will read it without any problem. Weird. 2006/5/14, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, Jostein and John. I am using Windows XP. I use the little green arrow in the Taskbar, labeled Safely Remove Hardware. I have found that if I

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread David Savage
I do it the same way have never had any problems. I have had problems a couple of times when copying though. Something went wrong during the process I could no longer see the files on the computer but I could in camera. I had to use recovery software to get them back. The joy's of PC's :-)

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/14/2006 11:23:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting. I always format in camera, not because I knew the computer might do that, but because it's the easiest way for my brain to keep track of when I am deleting my pictures. (I always format

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Don Williams
I thought so too. A couple of times things have stopped in mid-stream for unknown reasons. But it would seem Windows doesn't delete the directory entry (first character of the name) on the card until the file has been pasted. So far, the files that have not yet been written to the PC hard

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread brooksdj
I had some problems recently on the ibook with 2 cards, so i'm not sure its justa windows problem. I just close the drivepull out then reinsert the card reader and everything works fine. Dave If you insert a card into a reader and transfer the files to

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Adam Maas
Shel, Windows doesn't remove the originals until the copy is successful. That said, I always used copy rather than cut to be on the safe side. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: That strikes me as courting disaster. Should there be a problem when xfering the files, you may have lost the

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I sorta knew that - IOW, I wasn't sure. But, when working with important photos on a computer, it never hurts to play it safe. There's always the possibility that you can hit the wrong key and end up deleting files rather than pasting them. It seems to me that if you've spent a full day

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Don Williams
When I said it might be dangerous I was thinking of some set of circumstances of which I am totally unaware. Windows does not delete a directory entry until the 'Paste' is complete. If something goes wrong to stop the transfer the file is left as it was. You might be just as far up the creek

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread John Francis
While the file delete doesn't take place until after an individual file has been copied, you can still lose, big time, if there's a problem updating the directory. In any case, it's faster (as well as safer) to clear out the card by re-formatting it, rather than deleting files. On Mon, May 15,

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Rick Womer
Joe, Are you closing and then re-opening the My Computer window? My laptop does what you describe if I just leave the My Computer window open. If I close it and reopen it, the new drive is there. Rick --- Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Jostein and John. I am using Windows

Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Joseph Tainter
If you insert a card into a reader and transfer the files to a Windows PC, you must then go through Windows' procedure to remove the card. But this shuts down that drive, so you can't insert another card and continue transferring files. Windows won't see it. You have to restart the computer.

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Jostein
Hi Joe, Which version of windows are you referring to? I think this behaviour varies between versions... Jostein - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread John Francis
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 12:30:18PM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: If you insert a card into a reader and transfer the files to a Windows PC, you must then go through Windows' procedure to remove the card. But this shuts down that drive, so you can't insert another card and continue

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Joseph Tainter
Thanks, Jostein and John. I am using Windows XP. I use the little green arrow in the Taskbar, labeled Safely Remove Hardware. I have found that if I doesn't use that, Windows scolds me. I have the issue with card readers, thumbdrives, and the external 250 GB drive I can use on either Firewire

RE: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, That's not how it works on my machine. First question: which version on Windows do you have? In any case, there's a way to set the options so that when a card is inserted it behaves a certain way. When a card is inserted into the reader in my computer, it immediately brings up a screen

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread John Francis
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 01:54:27PM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: Thanks, Jostein and John. I am using Windows XP. I use the little green arrow in the Taskbar, labeled Safely Remove Hardware. I have found that if I doesn't use that, Windows scolds me. I have the issue with card readers,

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Jostein
14, 2006 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC Thanks, Jostein and John. I am using Windows XP. I use the little green arrow in the Taskbar, labeled Safely Remove Hardware. I have found that if I doesn't use that, Windows scolds me. I have the issue with card

RE: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Bob W
That's what works for me. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 May 2006 22:13 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC This may be a silly question, but have you tried to ignore

RE: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Joseph Tainter
Shel: When a card is inserted into the reader in my computer, it immediately brings up a screen showing exactly what files are on the card, and I can then choose how to work with those files. - I guess some people like this. I consider it another Microsoft annoyance. In a Windows XP

RE: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ahh, but you can choose to have the files open in many different ways and several different places. Once you've set your preferences, the same reader or whatever ~should~ open the same way when you remove the device and insert another, with no need to reboot the computer. It would seem that

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: Thanks, Jostein and John. I am using Windows XP. I use the little green arrow in the Taskbar, labeled Safely Remove Hardware. I have found that if I doesn't use that, Windows scolds me. I have the issue with card readers, thumbdrives, and the external 250 GB drive I

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Joseph Tainter
Me, then John Francis: If I remove a CF card (or any of these) through the Safely Remove Hardware method, I cannot then insert a new card (or re-insert the thumbdrive or turn the external hard drive back on) without rebooting. Windows just won't recognize it. That's exactly counter to my

RE: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Joseph Tainter
I don't see having choices as an annoyance. I think it's great that Windows can easily be customized to suit my needs. Shel - Right. I just almost never like Windows' default settings, which are set up for people who don't know which planet computers come from. So I have to go through

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread John Francis
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 02:40:57PM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: But is there a way to get this to work with my older hardware? Probably not. It sounds likely to be a BIOS/PnP issue. You could try seeing if there's a way to upgrade your BIOS (anything new enough to run XP probably has the

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread graywolf
Do you always do what Bill Gates tells you? grin I seldom makes any difference in my experience whether you click Mr Gates little icon thingy or not. However, I will not swear that there is not somewhere out there some device that will not self destruct if you don't. graywolf

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Doug Franklin
Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This may be a silly question, but have you tried to ignore the safely... messages all together? Eg. with an USB-drive, just rip it out, and replace it with another... That should work as long as you haven't

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
YAWN(Mac User, who puts his card in the reader and takes it out:-) vbg On May 14, 2006, at 5:09 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 01:54:27PM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: Thanks, Jostein and John. I am using Windows XP. I use the little green arrow in the Taskbar, labeled

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 May 2006 at 19:20, Paul Stenquist wrote: YAWN(Mac User, who puts his card in the reader and takes it out:-) vbg Not that smart if the O/S is in the middle of a write Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Adam Maas
Rob Studdert wrote: On 14 May 2006 at 19:20, Paul Stenquist wrote: YAWN(Mac User, who puts his card in the reader and takes it out:-) vbg Not that smart if the O/S is in the middle of a write Rob Studdert Indeed. At least Windows doesn't write-cache 'Removable' drives,

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: YAWN(Mac User, who puts his card in the reader and takes it out:-) That's what I do on my PC running Windows 2000! The only time you need to go the safely remove hardware process is when removing the *card reader* from the machine. If you just yank the card reader,

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Obviously, I don't do it in the middle of a write. But I don't worry about how or when I do it, other than to make sure it's not being used. But it's just a :-)). Lighten up, PC folks :-))). Paul On May 14, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 14 May 2006 at 19:20, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Rather than using the USB unmount feature in the system tray do this: 1.) Right click on the Drive Icon corresponding you your CF or SD card reader in My Computer. 2.) Select the eject option. That will close all connections to the drive, 3.) Then simply remove the card and

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling
] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC If you insert a card into a reader and transfer the files to a Windows PC, you must then go through Windows' procedure to remove the card. But this shuts down that drive, so you

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Just in case it didn't get through before, in My Computer right click on the drive icon for your CF card reader and select the Eject option. That will write all pending information to the card, close all connections, and wait for a new card to be inserted. Joseph Tainter wrote: Thanks,

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling
: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC Thanks, Jostein and John. I am using Windows XP. I use the little green arrow in the Taskbar, labeled Safely Remove Hardware. I have found that if I doesn't use that, Windows scolds me. I have the issue with card readers, thumbdrives, and the external 250

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Adam Maas wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: On 14 May 2006 at 19:20, Paul Stenquist wrote: YAWN(Mac User, who puts his card in the reader and takes it out:-) vbg Not that smart if the O/S is in the middle of a write Rob Studdert Indeed. At least Windows doesn't write-cache

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC Appreciate any advice. I do believe there is a solution to this. I just plug em in when I want to read them, and unplug em when I want them out of the reader. Haven't had

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Paul Sorenson
P J's got it right - in either My Computer *or* Windows Explorer, when you're done transferring files and deleting them off the memory card, just right click on the drive and select Eject from the context menu. Then you can remove the card and reinsert another without re-booting. -P P. J.

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Don Williams
: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC Appreciate any advice. I do believe there is a solution to this. I just plug em in when I want to read them, and unplug em when I want them out of the reader. Haven't had a problem yet. William Robb -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi

Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-14 Thread Don Williams
I have a card reader attached to a USB hub. Two microscope cameras and other stuff such as an extra mouse for the microscope monitor are connected to this hub as well. If, for some strange reason, a window does not open (or the drive (J:) is not in the list) when a CF card is inserted, all