Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-08 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Stenquist) wrote: Go with the Spotmatic F. It will give you open aperture metering with Super Multi Coated lenses. I have a gaggle of them and love them all. Some will whine that the meter stays on when you leave the lens cap off, but

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-08 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Saturday, November 8, 2003, 11:33:00 AM, you wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Stenquist) wrote: Go with the Spotmatic F. It will give you open aperture metering with Super Multi Coated lenses. I have a gaggle of them and love them all. Some will whine

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-08 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yep, that is the critter. Slide it to M (manual diaphagm) and the lens stops down, slide it to A (Auto-diaphagm) and it stays open until you hit he shutter button. I've been told that, to avoid possible damage to the diaphragm mechanism, you should have the

Re: Re[4]: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-08 Thread Jostein
Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 2:02 AM Subject: Re[4]: Spotmatic? II or F? Bill, I would really appreciate that. I would also like to know besides AF and Program mode, what else would not function as the result of a 67 lens in use

Re: Re[2]: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re[2]: Spotmatic? II or F? Based on that, since my 67 lenses function in the same way, I should be able to use them with stop-down metering on the *ist D. In theory that would allow for manual and aperture priority modes. Can

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-08 Thread John Coyle
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 3:57 AM Subject: Re: Spotmatic? II or F? Graywolf wrote: IIRC, of the Pentax screw mount cameras: The ES, ESII, and F meter wide open with the correct lenses, stop down with others. F is manual

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-08 Thread John Coyle
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Spotmatic? II or F? M means MANUAL diaphragm, aka stop-down. A means (guess what?) AUTOMATIC diaphragm, operated by the camera at time of shooting. Dario Uh, thanks. I am now going to hide out in my room

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Eactivist
be the way to go. Despite DJE's explanations, I am still a bit confused. Also after a brief read of the web pages, and briefly looked at the Spotmatic F and II manuals. But as far as I can figure out, the metering on screwmounts was not the same as present day or the K-1000. Only the Taks could

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread graywolf
the 6x7. Regards, Bob S. I'm beginning to think this may be the way to go. Despite DJE's explanations, I am still a bit confused. Also after a brief read of the web pages, and briefly looked at the Spotmatic F and II manuals. But as far as I can figure out, the metering on screwmounts

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Joe Wilensky
that better approaches an 18 percent gray, set your exposure, and then recompose. Joe I'm beginning to think this may be the way to go. Despite DJE's explanations, I am still a bit confused. Also after a brief read of the web pages, and briefly looked at the Spotmatic F and II manuals

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Eactivist
Graywolf wrote: IIRC, of the Pentax screw mount cameras: The ES, ESII, and F meter wide open with the correct lenses, stop down with others. F is manual exposure, ES's are auto exposure. The SP, and SPII use stop down metering but meter the same way with all screw mount lens. The models

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Eactivist
Metering works in much the same way on the ES cameras -- open aperture metering (with aperture-priority exposure in this case) for SMC Takumars, and stop-down metering for Super-Takumars and other screwmounts. There's no exposure lock on the ES cameras, though, so you have to dial in

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Joe Wilensky
Hi, Marnie, I'll follow up to my previous post: Picture taking with the Spotmatic F and an SMC Takumar lens will be the same as taking a photo with the K-1000 and a K-mount lens. Pick a shutter speed, select an f-stop while watching the needle in the finder. The viewfinder won't darken as you

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread John Francis
Despite DJE's explanations, I am still a bit confused. Also after a brief read of the web pages, and briefly looked at the Spotmatic F and II manuals. But as far as I can figure out, the metering on screwmounts was not the same as present day or the K-1000. Only the Taks could be read

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Eactivist
The one big variation is whether the camera meters at the taking aperture (early Spotmatics, or later models when used with older lenses), or whether the lens remains at full aperture while metering. This makes absolutely no difference in *how* you adjust the camera (you still have to position

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But *which* way is easier in low light situations? Open aperture metering (as with the Spot F and SMC T lenses, or the K1000 and K lenses) is, because the viewfinder is brighter. -tih -- Tom Ivar Helbekkmo, Senior System Administrator, EUnet Norway www.eunet.no T:

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread graywolf
Well if you use screw mount lenses on your Elan you will have to use them in stop down mode. How that works to take a meter reading is: 1. You point the camera at the subject. 2. You push the stop down button on the lens to the stopped down position. 3. You adjust the f-stop and/or shutter speed

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Butch Black
Previously written; What I need to know is what STEPS *I* have to go through to take a picture. I point the camera at something, I manually focus, I set the aperture, I set the shutter speed, and the meter says, okay, go ahead. Then I take the picture. That is what I was used to on the K-1000.

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Eactivist
Graywolf wrote: 2. You push the stop down button on the lens to the stopped down position. Uh, there's a stop down button on the lens? How that works to take a meter reading is: 1. You point the camera at the subject. 2. You push the stop down button on the lens to the stopped down position. 3.

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread graywolf
Yes there is a stopdown button on the lens, that is why you can meter with these lenses on the *istD and not with the K/M lens. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graywolf wrote: 2. You push the stop down button on the lens to the stopped down position. Uh, there's a stop down button on the lens? --

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Eactivist
M means MANUAL diaphragm, aka stop-down. A means (guess what?) AUTOMATIC diaphragm, operated by the camera at time of shooting. Dario Uh, thanks. I am now going to hide out in my room, embarrassed. Don't be surprised if you don't see me around for a while. marnie aka that embarrassed doe

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread frank theriault
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spotmatic? II or F? Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:00:07 EST Graywolf wrote: 2. You push the stop down button on the lens to the stopped down position. Uh, there's a stop down button on the lens? How that works to take a meter reading is: 1. You point the camera

Re: Re[2]: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re[2]: Spotmatic? II or F? Based on that, since my 67 lenses function in the same way, I should be able to use them with stop-down metering on the *ist D. In theory that would allow for manual and aperture priority modes. Can

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Eactivist
Don't get bogged down with all of this, buy Any Nice Spotmatic You See, and you'll be happy. vbg cheers, frank Hehehehe. Thx, frank. Marnie (Still red in the face.)

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Eactivist
Thanks everyone. I think I've gone from total confusion to understanding this. Or getting most of it. Holding a Pentax screwmount camera and trying out a scewmount on my Canon will clear up any remaining confusion. Though I think I am pretty clear now. I read everyone as saying flip a switch

Re[4]: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Subject: Re[2]: Spotmatic? II or F? Based on that, since my 67 lenses function in the same way, I should be able to use them with stop-down metering on the *ist D. In theory that would allow for manual and aperture priority modes. Can anyone with an *ist D verify that? WR Bruce, I'll check

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-07 Thread graywolf
Yep, that is the critter. Slide it to M (manual diaphagm) and the lens stops down, slide it to A (Auto-diaphagm) and it stays open until you hit he shutter button. Since I haven't had a screw mount Pentax since I sold my H-3 which I bought new in 1961, I think I can be forgiven for calling it a

Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread Eactivist
Okay, this is kind of weird, but instead of getting a MX to stay hanging around this list (being a semi-Canon defector), I've been thinking about a Spotmatic. Screwmount lenses also will fit on my Elan 7e, so not so weird as all that. A Zenitar fisheye would work on both. And I already have the

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread ernreed2
Response at the end: Okay, this is kind of weird, but instead of getting a MX to stay hanging around this list (being a semi-Canon defector), I've been thinking about a Spotmatic. Screwmount lenses also will fit on my Elan 7e, so not so weird as all that. A Zenitar fisheye would work on

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread Jim Apilado
lenses out there besides Pentax. Good Luck. Jim A. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:45:12 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Spotmatic? II or F? Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:45:37 -0500 Okay, this is kind of weird

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread brooksdj
http://212.187.14.19/spotmatic/cameras.htm This is a site its all m42 mount stuff. Also PPRO site at www.whitemetal.com has a list of many m42 cameras I have the SP 500 and a Spotmatic 1000 and 5-6 lenses.They are great cameras. Dave Okay, this is kind of

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread John Francis
Spotmatics also go fairly cheaply on ebay. But there are different versions. Right off the bat, I notice a II and a F. Which would be the best to get? Or is there another version that would be even better? I'd go with the Spotmatic F - it's the successor to the Spotmatic II, and the

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread Eactivist
Gray wolf wrote: Of course since the MX was designed to my specs I would be a churl to switch. ? You big honcho? Re input -- Probably the F, then. IIRC, the meter on the K-1000 was always on. The lens cap turned it off. So I'm used to that. Also, thanks, Dave. Marnie aka Doe

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Girlfren', you're going to buy an LX eventually. We all do. Might as well just save all the intermediate heartache and get it now. Spot on, ERNR! Marnie: you want the LX, of course, but if you do go for a Spotmatic, the F is the model to get. It's the top of the

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread Eactivist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Girlfren', you're going to buy an LX eventually. We all do. Might as well just save all the intermediate heartache and get it now. Hehehehehe. Well, maybe. :-) Tom wrote: Spot on, ERNR! Marnie: you want the LX, of course, but if you do go for a Spotmatic, the F is

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread Andre Langevin
Have you considered an ESII? It's a screwmount LX without TTL flash! OK, it's a little bit more than that. OK, OK, it's a lot more than that... Andre --

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread Robert Leigh Woerner
PM Subject: Re: Spotmatic? II or F? [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Girlfren', you're going to buy an LX eventually. We all do. Might as well just save all the intermediate heartache and get it now. Hehehehehe. Well, maybe. :-) Tom wrote: Spot on, ERNR! Marnie: you want the LX, of course

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread edwin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, this is kind of weird, but instead of getting a MX to stay hanging around this list (being a semi-Canon defector), I've been thinking about a Spotmatic. Screwmount lenses also will fit on my Elan 7e, so not so weird as all that. A Zenitar

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Actually I think I am sticking with the Elan for my main camera. While I like the Pentax interface better, I am pretty happy with an USM IS zoom that I have. And I like the Elan's fast auto focus. And, as for buying more expensive glass and investing

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread Eactivist
DJE wrote: Depends on what you need. Finding batteries for all of them can be a pain. Spotmatic SP (original) has no hot shoe for flash, but has X/FP sync connections. Meters at working aperture and is full manual and mechanical. Spotmatic SPII has flash hot shoe as well as X/FP sync

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

2003-11-06 Thread edwin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Doug Franklin wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:17:34 -0500, Robert Leigh Woerner wrote: KEH.com has an LX in Bargain condition for what I consider an attractive price. I had my first bad experience with KEH today. A couple of days ago I ordered an SMCP-FA 28-70/2.8