Re: Strange old colour film

2014-03-02 Thread mike wilson
On 28/02/2014, David Mann wrote: > Under a 10x loupe I can only barely make out that there are separated > primary colours so this detail is is incredibly fine. If it is a photo of a > print then it's a really very seriously bloody sharp one. Or I'll read Steve's post next and see that it's clea

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-03-02 Thread mike wilson
On 28/02/2014, David Mann wrote: > On Mar 1, 2014, at 2:14 am, Mark C wrote: > >> It looks like a 3 or 4 color separation offset print so my guess would be >> with Paul that it is a photo of an image printed in a magazine. >> >> Is the same pattern visible if you look at the print directly under

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread Mark Roberts
David Mann wrote: >On Mar 1, 2014, at 1:22 pm, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> This is a really fascinating investigation! Would you like me to call >> my friend at the George Eastman House and see if they have any more >> information on this? > >That'd be great if you could. I thought about sending an

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread David Mann
On Mar 1, 2014, at 1:22 pm, Mark Roberts wrote: > This is a really fascinating investigation! Would you like me to call > my friend at the George Eastman House and see if they have any more > information on this? That'd be great if you could. I thought about sending an enquiry via the Kodak we

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread Mark Roberts
David Mann wrote: >On Mar 1, 2014, at 10:46 am, steve harley wrote: > >> on 2014-02-28 14:03 David Mann wrote >>> I might be getting somewhere... >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paget_process >> >> yes, that is close; i found some samples of the Paget pattern, and it >> appears somewhat d

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread Mark C
Great sleuthing and an interesting printing process! Mark On 2/28/2014 4:46 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2014-02-28 14:03 David Mann wrote I might be getting somewhere... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paget_process yes, that is close; i found some samples of the Paget pattern, and it appears

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread David Mann
On Mar 1, 2014, at 10:46 am, steve harley wrote: > on 2014-02-28 14:03 David Mann wrote >> I might be getting somewhere... >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paget_process > > yes, that is close; i found some samples of the Paget pattern, and it appears > somewhat different from your slide, e.

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 10:03:06AM +1300, David Mann wrote: > On Mar 1, 2014, at 9:18 am, steve harley wrote: > > > on 2014-02-28 11:37 David Mann wrote > I might be getting somewhere... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paget_process > > ...but 1951 seems awfully late for such a process. Given

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread steve harley
on 2014-02-28 14:03 David Mann wrote I might be getting somewhere... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paget_process yes, that is close; i found some samples of the Paget pattern, and it appears somewhat different from your slide, e.g.:

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread David Mann
On Mar 1, 2014, at 9:18 am, steve harley wrote: > on 2014-02-28 11:37 David Mann wrote >> I took the opportunity to bring the slide along so we could look at it under >> the microscope and we managed to get a photo by holding her iPhone up to the >> eyepiece. I was skeptical but it came out ra

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread steve harley
on 2014-02-28 11:37 David Mann wrote I took the opportunity to bring the slide along so we could look at it under the microscope and we managed to get a photo by holding her iPhone up to the eyepiece. I was skeptical but it came out rather well. This is a crop of the full-size photo to prese

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread John
Might it be a photo of an old picture post card? For what it's worth, plug this number into Google Maps: -43.606235,172.645487 ... and go to street view, looking SE. On 2/27/2014 4:57 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I suspect that someone photographed magazine pages. I don’t think the dot pattern i

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread David Mann
On Mar 1, 2014, at 2:14 am, Mark C wrote: > It looks like a 3 or 4 color separation offset print so my guess would be > with Paul that it is a photo of an image printed in a magazine. > > Is the same pattern visible if you look at the print directly under a loup? I > assume it is there. If not

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread Mark C
It looks like a 3 or 4 color separation offset print so my guess would be with Paul that it is a photo of an image printed in a magazine. Is the same pattern visible if you look at the print directly under a loup? I assume it is there. If not it would probably be a scanning artifact. Sounds l

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
See if anyone here can help: B > On 28 Feb 2014, at 02:43, "David Mann" wrote: > > I had a reply from the camera shop: > > --- > > Our in-store committee thinks it might be a copy-neg/slide from a litho > original, hence seeing all the lines from the pre-press screens used in the > print

RE: Strange old colour film

2014-02-27 Thread John Coyle
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Strange old colour film Here's something the more experienced photographers might be able to help me with... Among these old slides I've been scanning are a handful of colour ones which are not part of the Australian stuff. A few of these colo

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-27 Thread David Mann
I had a reply from the camera shop: --- Our in-store committee thinks it might be a copy-neg/slide from a litho original, hence seeing all the lines from the pre-press screens used in the print process. If not that, then we’re in the dark too. --- I'm interested to know what others think. Ch

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-27 Thread CollinB
At first glance I wonder if they were created with some early type of film recorder. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-27 Thread David Mann
On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:27 pm, steve harley wrote: > can you post a snip at 100%? OK since it's started raining and I have nothing better to do I've rescanned a section at 4800ppi. It just gets weirder. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/777/ It's definitely RGB but in a crosshatch pattern. I

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-27 Thread steve harley
on 2014-02-27 14:32 David Mann wrote Here's something the more experienced photographers might be able to help me with... Among these old slides I've been scanning are a handful of colour ones which are not part of the Australian stuff. A few of these colour ones (but not all) appear to have

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
However, Polachrome was 1983 (I shot a couple rolls back then), not 1951. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Strange old colour film I suspect that someone photographed magazine pages. I

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
Unless it is Polachrome: http://blog.timesunion.com/chuckmiller/playing-with-polaroids-polachrome-instant-slide-film/5835/ Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Strange old colour film I

Re: Strange old colour film

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I suspect that someone photographed magazine pages. I don’t think the dot pattern is in the film. Paul On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:32 PM, David Mann wrote: > Here's something the more experienced photographers might be able to help me > with... > > Among these old slides I've been scanning are a ha

Strange old colour film

2014-02-27 Thread David Mann
Here's something the more experienced photographers might be able to help me with... Among these old slides I've been scanning are a handful of colour ones which are not part of the Australian stuff. A few of these colour ones (but not all) appear to have a kind of halftone pattern. See here