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Tomek Machnik wrote: On 10-03-2010 17:27, P. J. Alling wrote: Too bad you can't figure out a way to send it. It's been figured out, 50 years is plenty for research. The thing is suitably shaped, all it needs is a couple of rocket engines and off it goes back where it came from. Intercontin

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> > But... they built you that lovely palace! > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Culture_and_Science,_Warsaw > Looks just like Moscow - what a coincidence -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

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On 10-03-2010 17:27, P. J. Alling wrote: Too bad you can't figure out a way to send it. It's been figured out, 50 years is plenty for research. The thing is suitably shaped, all it needs is a couple of rocket engines and off it goes back where it came from. > I'm sure Putin has room on his m

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

Too bad you can't figure out a way to send it. I'm sure Putin has room on his mantel. On 3/10/2010 7:04 AM, Tomek Machnik wrote: On 10 March 2010 12:08, mike wilson wrote: But... they built you that lovely palace! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Culture_and_Science,_Warsaw

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Tomek Machnik wrote: > On 10 March 2010 12:08, mike wilson wrote: > > > But... they built you that lovely palace! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Culture_and_Science,_Warsaw > > Little jealous, aren't you :) I think every town should have one. They didn't have the bottle to

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On 10 March 2010 12:08, mike wilson wrote: > But... they built you that lovely palace! > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Culture_and_Science,_Warsaw Little jealous, aren't you :) Sadly, they forgot to take the thing back, with their tanks and nukes. tm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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Tomek Machnik wrote: > tm, 22 (and glad) when they left. But... they built you that lovely palace! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Culture_and_Science,_Warsaw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML

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On 9 March 2010 02:41, William Robb wrote: >> If you have any doubt that our cold war foes were interested in running an >> empire or not, ask the Poles. >> > The satellite countries hardly constituted a global empire, though this fact > seems lost on you. We were occupied. It was of little impo

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

FWIW, I do *TRY* not to get political here, but ... From: "William Robb" From: "P. J. Alling" > Cuba, Nicaragua, Peoples Republic of Congo, North Vietnam, how global do > you want it to be? Not sure about the Congo, other than it was more of a UN failure (and Belgium bailing on very short no

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

From: "P. J. Alling" If you have any doubt that our cold war foes were interested in running an empire or not, ask the Poles. I don't question former Soviet (or current Russian) imperial ambitions. I question whether establishing an "American Empire" is the best way to counter them. To my way

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On 3/8/2010 9:20 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, Cuba, Nicaragua, Peoples Republic of Congo, North Vietnam, how global do you want it to be? Not sure about t

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, Cuba, Nicaragua, Peoples Republic of Congo, North Vietnam, how global do you want it to be? Not sure about the Congo, other than it was more of a UN f

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On 3/8/2010 8:41 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, If you have any doubt that our cold war foes were interested in running an empire or not, ask the Poles. The

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On 3/3/2010 2:20 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, I'm sure that we are just setting them up to go broke eventually, like we did with the Soviet Union. Loo

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, If you have any doubt that our cold war foes were interested in running an empire or not, ask the Poles. The satellite countries hardly constituted a g

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

If you have any doubt that our cold war foes were interested in running an empire or not, ask the Poles. On 3/3/2010 1:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: "William Robb" From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, &

RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

[...] > The worst example of refusal to even try was the English > family I encountered who had been in Paris for a week, only > ever shouted at the French in English, and complained that > they hadn't eaten any decent food since they had been there: One of my non-francophone friends complains

RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

e sympa, je crois! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Monday, 8 March 2010 6:28 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest

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On 3/3/2010 12:07 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:37 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: Nixon won the '68 electon because Humphrey wasn't a viable alternative. He also won because someone shot Bobby Kennedy. I suspect that the world might be considerably different today had Kenn

RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

> > > > I always thought the French treated you better if you at > least made an > > attempt at speaking French, live and learn. > > > > No, they hate you even more for trying to mock them. > They are a very odd group of people. > In their defence, I don't think they are any odder than the res

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

From: Bob Sullivan So this is the 'lay of the land' in most places. Local police/law enforcement officers get a lot of leave to do things their way. You want to be an a**hole, they'll be a**holes right back to you. So tell me how this attitude benefits you personally? It's juvenile behavior or ga

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 I always thought the French treated you better if you at least made an attempt at speaking French, live and learn. No, they hate you

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2/27/2010 3:07 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk Sneaky photographers... Actually, that guy's been rather lucky. I've been stopped by the French police in Dunkirk, last xmas, taking one of my usual nighttime photos of t

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alloping paranoia or both. Take a chill pill... Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > On 2/27/2010 9:18 PM, David Savage wrote: >> >> On 28 February 2010 06:14, William Robb  wrote: >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- Fr

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This kind of thing /might/ even be justified if they actually managed to catch an actual terrorist once every great while. On 2/27/2010 1:29 PM, Cotty wrote: While we're on the subject, here's another one: Video as well, half-way down on the left. This i

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2/27/2010 11:29 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Bill, I love you man, but you know, you can be a total dick, maybe it's coloring your pe

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2/27/2010 9:18 PM, David Savage wrote: On 28 February 2010 06:14, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 The guy with the camera suddenly became the g

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2/28/2010 4:47 PM, Bob W wrote: On 2/27/2010 2:11 PM, Bob W wrote: Bill, Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. I don't have any trouble taking pictures here. How about you in Canada? Canada is the Great Nylon New York& London are the Gre

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:20 , William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, I'm sure that we are just setting them up to go broke eventually, like we did with the Soviet Union

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

- Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, I'm sure that we are just setting them up to go broke eventually, like we did with the Soviet Union. Look! The billions they have in US bon

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On Mar 3, 2010, at 07:54 , William Robb wrote: He ignores the costs of doing nothing. Forgets the consequences of having a different suzerain in the world. The only other nation that's been in a compariable position to the one the United States holds today during it's entire history was t

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

From: "William Robb" From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, > He ignores the costs of doing nothing. Forgets the consequences of having > a different suzerain in the world. The only other nation that's

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, He ignores the costs of doing nothing. Forgets the consequences of having a different suzerain in the world. The only other nation that's been in a

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On 2/28/2010 5:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Adam Maas On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 AM, John Sessoms wrote: >> From: "P. J. Alling" >>> >>> I hate it when people wave Charles Johnson around, I happen to have >>> degrees in Economics an

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:07 AM, frank theriault wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:37 PM, P N Stenquist > wrote: > > Nixon won the '68 electon because Humphrey wasn't a viable alternative. > > > He also won because someone shot Bobby Kennedy. I suspect that the > world might be considerably d

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:37 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: Nixon won the '68 electon because Humphrey wasn't a viable alternative. He also won because someone shot Bobby Kennedy. I suspect that the world might be considerably different today had Kennedy become president of the USA. Mind you, I th

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On Mar 1, 2010, at 12:19 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P N Stenquist On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Careful Bill or you might find some surprises on the unquestioning > obedience/civil disobedience issues. Some of us are children of the > '60's and were in Chicago for

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

From: P N Stenquist On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Careful Bill or you might find some surprises on the unquestioning > obedience/civil disobedience issues. Some of us are children of the > '60's and were in Chicago for the '68 Democratic Convention fuss. > Regards, Bob S.

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:22:03 -0600 Bob Sullivan wrote: > Careful Bill or you might find some surprises on the unquestioning > obedience/civil disobedience issues. Some of us are children of the > '60's and were in Chicago for the '68 Democratic Convention fuss. I remember the "Chicago 7" and th

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Careful Bill or you might find some surprises on the unquestioning obedience/civil disobedience issues. Some of us are children of the '60's and were in Chicago for the '68 Democratic Convention fuss. Regards, Bob S. I was at the "Battle of Ba

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; > - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" > Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February > 2010 > > >> I am loyal to the country that has guaranteed my freedom. >> > > There is a difference between unwavering

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010 I am loyal to the country that has guaranteed my freedom. There is a difference between unwavering loyalty and unquestioning obeidi

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On 2/28/2010 8:27 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: "P. J. Alling" I hate it when people wave Charles Johnson around, I happen to have degrees in Economics and History, and I thi

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On 2/28/2010 7:28 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: "P. J. Alling" I hate it when people wave Charles Johnson around, I happen to have degrees in Economics and History, and I think he's full of crap. Then again I'm not an academic and I don't have to be nice to these people. Who is "Charles Joh

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Feb 28, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Subash wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:55 PM, William Robb wrote: > >> - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" >> Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February >> 2010 >

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010, at 05:37 , William Robb wrote: > >> - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" >> Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February >> 2010 >> >> >>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb w

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:55 PM, William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" > Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February > 2010 >>>> Of course. But if no one ever intervened, we'd all b

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Feb 28, 2010, at 05:37 , William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb wrote: As I mentioned earlier in this thre

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, While the REALLY smart person drives it until it's ALMOST falling apart and unloads it on some unsuspecting sucker while it's still running.

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

From: "William Robb" From: "Bob Sullivan" > Yup Bill, my prejudice. If your driving an old rust bucket/beater, > you're somebody I'd want to keep an eye on. :-) Interesting perspective. Considering what an incredibly bad investement a car is, the smart person buys a used one that has lost

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:46 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" > Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010 > > > >>> >> Don't you ever tire of this? B

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010 Don't you ever tire of this? Bed time for Billy. Nope. I think you are a time zone ahead of me, perhaps Paulie should get his l

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Feb 28, 2010, at 6:55 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" > Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010 > > > >>>> Of course. But if no one ever intervened, we

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010 Of course. But if no one ever intervened, we'd all be goose stepping today. Paul, you may not like hearing this, but a lot o

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Every government meddles in every other countries governmemt some are just more direct and have more power. And look how it co

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Just after 9/11 I was out at 2:AM shooting some fisheye night shots. I'm standing on a deserted street corner across the street fr

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Yup Bill, my prejudice. If your driving an old rust bucket/beater, you're somebody I'd want to keep an eye on. :-) Interesting

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

From: Adam Maas On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 AM, John Sessoms wrote: >> From: "P. J. Alling" >>> >>> I hate it when people wave Charles Johnson around, I happen to have >>> degrees in Economics and History, and I think he's full of crap. ?T

RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

> > On 2/27/2010 2:11 PM, Bob W wrote: > Bill, > Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. > I don't have any trouble taking pictures here. > How about you in Canada? > > >>> Canada is the Great Nylon > >>> > >> New York& London are the Gre

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2/27/2010 2:11 PM, Bob W wrote: Bill, Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. I don't have any trouble taking pictures here. How about you in Canada? Canada is the Great Nylon New York& London are the Great Nylon Canada is the Great Beaver Pelt Pro

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2/27/2010 11:42 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010 I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega Iran and a stro

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2/27/2010 1:40 PM, Cotty wrote: On 28/2/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Fremantle, Australia. Today I spent 5 hours wandering the streets of Fremantle with a few photographer friends. We were very obvious, and we didn't get any particularly strange looks (we do silly looki

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2/27/2010 1:11 PM, David Savage wrote: On 28 February 2010 02:02, David Savage wrote: On 27 February 2010 19:17, Cotty wrote: On 26/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I think you're 100% wrong on this, Cotty. I refer you to Willcock vs Muckle: http://en.wikipedia.

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2/27/2010 9:15 PM, David Savage wrote: On 28 February 2010 06:13, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 As a point of principle I suppose I agree tha

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 2010-02-27 15:32 , Christine Aguila wrote: 3c) Folks who sympathize with the photograrapher are assuming the photographer is telling the truth about him *just out taking pictures, minding his own business* and that he wasn't using his camera in an "anti-social" manner (whatever that means--s

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" > Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February > 2010 > > >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb wrote: >>> >>> As I mentioned earlier in this thread, a frie

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb wrote: As I mentioned earlier in this thread, a friend of mine has been accosted by the poli

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On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 AM, John Sessoms wrote: >> From: "P. J. Alling" >>> >>> I hate it when people wave Charles Johnson around, I happen to have >>> degrees in Economics and History, and I think he's full of crap.  Then again >>> I'm not

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: "P. J. Alling" >> >> I hate it when people wave Charles Johnson around, I happen to have >> degrees in Economics and History, and I think he's full of crap.  Then again >> I'm not an academic and I don't have to be nice to these people.

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 28 February 2010 04:32, mike wilson wrote: > > I'd like to have seen him try it in 99% of other countries. His head would > have been lumpier than school custard. > Which is one reason why living in the free world is suppossed to be better than living in "99% of other countries". The problem

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

From: "P. J. Alling" I hate it when people wave Charles Johnson around, I happen to have degrees in Economics and History, and I think he's full of crap. Then again I'm not an academic and I don't have to be nice to these people. Who is "Charles Johnson"? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDM

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On 28 February 2010 03:35, Bob W wrote: > Now, I'm a middle > class, middle-aged, mild-mannered white guy. How do you think they react to > young Muslim lads who want to take a few pictures? > > Bob > "They'd" respond like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McB9tsabPn0 regards, Anthony  

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Feb 27, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Subash wrote: > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:31 PM, P N Stenquist > wrote: >> >> On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:28 PM, steve harley wrote: >> >>> On 2010-02-27 06:13 , paul stenquist wrote: I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega Ira

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On 2/27/2010 7:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Joseph McAllister So, everyone outside today, and shoot your neighbor. And their dog! If you knew my neighbor, you wouldn't be egging me on like that. So it's not so much that you'll shoot your neighbor, it's what you'd use. -- {\rtf1\ansi\a

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I hate it when people wave Charles Johnson around, I happen to have degrees in Economics and History, and I think he's full of crap. Then again I'm not an academic and I don't have to be nice to these people. On 2/27/2010 1:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Sandy Harris On 2/27/10, Subash w

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

On 2/27/2010 1:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Sandy Harris On 2/27/10, Subash wrote: > elsewhere all along, and i would just like to say that both al qaeda > and saddam were creations of the US in their proxy wars against the > former USSR and Iran respectively. one has to be really naiv

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:31 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: > > On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:28 PM, steve harley wrote: > >> On 2010-02-27 06:13 , paul stenquist wrote: >>> >>> I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega Iran >>> and a strong Soviet presence in the middle east. There

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thanks for the detailed reply cotty. unfortunately after almost 6 years my compaq laptop just breathed its last. must have something to do with all the flame wars going on here lately. will get back after i get myself a new machine :) regards, subash On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Cotty wrote:

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb wrote: > As I mentioned earlier in this thread, a friend of mine has been accosted by > the police twice in the past year for photographing while in a wheelchair. Well no, I believe you said in his VAN. Van with handicapped plates, I'd wonder. Old bea

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

From: David Savage On 28 February 2010 06:14, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Cotty" > Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February > 2010 > > >> >> >> The guy with the camera

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

Not more stupid, just showed them up for what they really were. And the process continues... On 2/27/2010 12:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: "P. J. Alling" The world did change after 9/11 but it didn't make governments any less stupid. Sure seems to have made some other people a whole lot

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 The guy with the camera suddenly became the guy with the attitude, and that's why he was tossed in a cell. Could you quote me the

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Bill, Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. I don't have any trouble taking pictures here. How about you i

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 28 February 2010 06:14, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Cotty" > Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February > 2010 > > >> >> >> The guy with the camera suddenly became the guy

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

On 28 February 2010 06:13, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Cotty" > Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February > 2010 > > > >> As a point of principle I suppose I agree that stop and search

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Fibric? Bob's developed a Kiwi accent. :-) DS On 28 February 2010 08:31, Bob Sullivan wrote: > It's imbedded in the fibric of our society... > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:19 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >> From: Bob Sullivan >>> >>> Bill, >>> Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA.

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On 28 February 2010 05:10, Derby Chang wrote: > David Savage wrote: >> >> Today I spent 5 hours wandering the streets of Fremantle with a few >> photographer friends. We were very obvious, and we didn't get any >> particularly strange looks (we do silly looking things when we get >> together). >>

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It's imbedded in the fibric of our society... On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:19 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Bob Sullivan >> >> Bill, >> Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. > > Only during Prom week. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailma

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From: Bob Sullivan Bill, Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. Only during Prom week. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

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From: John Francis On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:25:58PM -0500, P N Stenquist wrote: > > On Feb 27, 2010, at 11:42 AM, William Robb wrote: > >> >> - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" >> Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own &#

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From: Cotty On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >From: "Cotty" >> I think your premise is wrong. The threat comes from smaller cameras and >> cell phones just as much as big cameras. It is the activity that >> attracts attention, not the size of the camera IMO. YMMV. > >Photo

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Excellent advice, Joe! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010 Repl

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From: David Savage On 28 February 2010 02:02, David Savage wrote: > > The only time the cops approached us is after we talked a couple of > pretty little things to pose on the median strip in the centre of the > main street with cars driving past on either side. And they were more > concerned

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From: steve harley On 2010-02-27 04:17 , Cotty wrote: > If the police have the power to stop and search > under a lawful act, how is that an abuse of authority? it is exactly in how they choose whom to stop & search that authority can be abused Not just "can be", but routinely IS BEING abus

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From: "William Robb" From: "paul stenquist" > I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega Iran > and a strong Soviet presence in the middle east. There's no way to flip > the switch and see what might have happened if Afghan and Iraq hadn't had > U.S. support back in

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From: Cotty On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >It's not the same society. A VERY BAD THING happened on September 11, 2001, >and ever since then, governments have been using it as an excuse to >consolidate power. >Perhaps they see the really big camera as a threat, perhaps the

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From: Cotty On 27/2/10, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed: >Cotty, IIRC, this is the third or fourth time on the list you've said >something like that, that it's no longer the same world or something to >that effect. i would like you to expand on that, if you may. am just >curious to know what

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at 14:33 , Christine Aguila wrote: Yep, Ralf's point is well taken! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:07 PM Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own &#x

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On Feb 27, 2010, at 5:10 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "P N Stenquist" Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Of course. But if no one ever intervened, we'd all be goose stepping today. Y

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