Re: about NiMH batteries

2007-01-26 Thread Cory Papenfuss
The are essentially a little battery but they utilize classic electrolytic capacior chemistry however due to their extremely dense charge/volume they have exceedingly high internal resistance. I don't know that it's fair to call them a battery. A battery has a nonlinear

RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-26 Thread Cory Papenfuss
PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote: If I am not mistake, NIMH batteries all have appox the same internal resistance and its very low compared to Nicad for example. specifically what kind

Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-26 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 25, 2007, at 19:09, Paul Stenquist wrote: I can't see using NIMH in my D, but I do use them in my flash. The D sits too long. I'd be charging the batteries every time I used it. One word - I've said it before and I'll say it again: Eneloop! -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL

Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 26, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: One word - I've said it before and I'll say it again: Eneloop! I have three sets of AA NiMH rechargables, two Power2000 and one 'no name brand, and now that I'm standardizing more and more on the K10D body I doubt I need many more for

RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
?? Is it only 1.1VDC or not? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:24 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire) I dont understand what you are saying

RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-26 Thread Cory Papenfuss
it sounds to me that you are the one a little confused here not me. i.e. a 2000mAH battery stores twice the energy of a 1000mH battery when fully charged.( Assuming same battery voltage - which I did because thats all were were talking about was one battery ). I'm not talking nominal

Re: about NiMH batteries

2007-01-26 Thread graywolf
Anyway the one in my camera does not work correctly. Cory Papenfuss wrote: The are essentially a little battery but they utilize classic electrolytic capacior chemistry however due to their extremely dense charge/volume they have exceedingly high internal resistance. I don't know that

about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi Cory, I've got some 2150 NiMH batteries that absolutely suck. I've got a LaCrosse BC-900 charger that can charge/discharge them and measure the actual capacity... not too far from advertised. That said, they rarely last more than 50-100 shots on my -DS. I think that some

about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi Godfrey, Colorspace settings are only applied to the JPEG output (thumbnails, embedded previews, full capture format as desired, etc) after RAW conversion. If you are capturing in JPEG format and need the least amount of channel clipping for further editing, Adobe RGB is the way

RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread J. C. O'Connell
off brand off shore made rechargable batteries are infamous for overstating the capacity. The usa FTC cant go after them I guess or just dont care to. I think the best way is to test your batteries in a systematic way but dont forget that most of them take about 10 cycles or so to get up to

RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Cory Papenfuss
off brand off shore made rechargable batteries are infamous for overstating the capacity. The usa FTC cant go after them I guess or just dont care to. I think the best way is to test your batteries in a systematic way but dont forget that most of them take about 10 cycles or so to get up to

RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread J. C. O'Connell
the charge is nearly gone regardless of load... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:26 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire) off brand off

RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote: If I am not mistake, NIMH batteries all have appox the same internal resistance and its very low compared to Nicad for example. specifically what kind of load are you draining them at and what is the output voltage of the cells under that load?

Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 25, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Peter Lacus wrote: then for me it's probably better to choose sRGB, because the only occasion I might want to shoot JPEGs is the need of printing immediately after shooting. That's what I do. I usually set the colorspace to ProPhoto RGB during RAW conversion

Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 26/01/07, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bottom line: Cheap cells illustrate a higher internal impedance than higher quality cells... even at the same mAH rating. That means they don't last as long before the camera thinks they're dead. Absolutely and it seems that even

Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 26/01/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I do ... No battery maintenance required, just replace when exhausted. For my last trip to the UK, I carried four sets of AA Lithium disposables and had a fresh set in the body. After 1600 exposures, I had only just replaced

RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, January 25, 2007 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote: If I am not mistake, NIMH batteries all have appox the same internal resistance and its very low compared to Nicad for example. specifically

Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 25, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: A pack of eight Eneloop 2100mAh cells costs me less than a set of eight AA Lithium disposables here. A pack of four 2400 mAh NiMH cells costs about US$11, a pack of four AA Li disposables about $9, but with the latter ... when

Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 26/01/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pack of four 2400 mAh NiMH cells costs about US$11, a pack of four AA Li disposables about $9, but with the latter ... when traveling ... I don't have to carry a charger, plug adapter, or whatever. Two sets of the AA Li disposable is

Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)

2007-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I can't see using NIMH in my D, but I do use them in my flash. The D sits too long. I'd be charging the batteries every time I used it. The flash, on the other hand, will burn through four batteries of any type in short order. So the NIMH seem to be a good choice for that. I once bought a

Re: about NiMH batteries

2007-01-25 Thread graywolf
??? How can they have lower internal resistance and longer shelf life? That seems contradictory to me. Is the difference in self-discharge for the Eneloops over standard NiMH as much as they claim? I have been wondering about that for awhile, I have several NiMH setting around doing nothing

Re: about NiMH batteries

2007-01-25 Thread graywolf
That coincides with my experience. If used in something with a fairly low relatively steady drain the lithium work best, in high intermittent drain situations like a flash the rechargeable are best. And of course fresh lithium have a 10 year shelf life, compared to about a month for standard

Re: about NiMH batteries

2007-01-25 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 26/01/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ??? How can they have lower internal resistance and longer shelf life? That seems contradictory to me. The shelf life/self discharge is likely lower due to improved construction and materials. The cells internal resistance is a function of how

Re: about NiMH batteries

2007-01-25 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 26/01/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try that again... The shelf life/self discharge rate of Eneloop cells is likely lower due to improved construction and materials. The cells internal resistance is a function of how their chemistry interacts with the electrodes,