I'd say I'm TRYING to do it as a hobby :)
practice makes perfect apparently
Cheers,
Dave
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From: Rogier van der Peijl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
I
>I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
>living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
I for one wish to do it for a living. I'm willing to divide my income with
50% in order to achieve it. Having a regular or "real" job is grossly
overrated - I'm certainly onl
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:19:03 +0200, Rogier van der Peijl wrote:
>I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography
>for a
>living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
>
>I'm doing it as a hobby
>
I do it for a living.
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Hobby, but I'm trying to sell some photos
Christian
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 08:19, Rogier van der Peijl wrote:
> I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
> living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
>
> I'm doing it as a hobby
>
> regards,
>
> Rogier
Expensive hobby.
Rogier van der Peijl wrote:
> I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
> living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
>
> I'm doing it as a hobby
>
> regards,
>
> Rogier
>
> _
> M
> > I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
> > living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
Uh ... hobby I guess, though I keep hoping to learn how to make
money at it. I have done some for pay (a wedding, pet portraits;
sold copies of a few other prints).
:-D
ah well you've gotta spend it on something...
regards,
Rogier
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> Expensive hobby.
>
> Rog
Hobby. My day job is TV news cameraman. I know many pros (stills) and
whenever we get together all they wanna talk about is TV, and all I wanna
talk about is stills.
You can't win!
Cotty
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Hi,
I'm doing it as a penance...
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Wednesday, April 10, 2002, 1:19:03 PM, you wrote:
> I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
> living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
> I'm doing it as a hobby
> regards,
> Rogi
Rogier asked politely:
>> I was wondering how many people on this list are doing
>> photography for a living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
>>
>> I'm doing it as a hobby
Masochism here.
Stephen
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>I'm doing it as a hobby
So am I, but I sincerely believe that I'll be able to have my own photographic
business someday:))
So far I put much money into it far too much..:)
Ah, after all, who cares...?:))
>regards,
>Rogier
Greetz
Artur
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I do it as a hobby. I get my money from working in accounting specially
concerned with information-systems. So photography makes a creative part in my
life.
Regards
Bernd
>I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
>living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
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Subject: pro or hobby
> I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography
for a
> living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
>
> I&
There is a lot of money in photography. I know. I put it in there.
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 03:06 pm, Artur Ledóchowski wrote:
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> So am I, but I sincerely believe that I'll be able to have my own
> photographic business someday:)) So far I put
God, isn't it obvious!! You've all seen my PUG submissions!
Rogier van der Peijl wrote:
> I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
> living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
>
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"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fea
But, seriously, it's still a hobby, although I'm seriously thinking of
trying to make money at it at some point, although I don't have any
illusions that it will be anything more than a secondary income.
My sister, her husband and I have been selling prints of our stuff on eBay
over the last few
Hobby. And I intend to keep it this way.
No way am I spending all this money only to end up whishing I would write
some C++ code for a change. Which would be a very likely outcome once I
start shooting for living. For me at least.
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> I'm doing it as a penance...
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Let's see? What day is it?
I have done both. Strangely, over the years, I have made more money doing
snapshots than serious photography. Right now I guess the little I do
qualifies as therapy.
Ciao,
Graywolf
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Definitely a hobby, although lot's of people make a living out of it, only
not me. It's also a way of travelling for me, a way of relating to the world
around, and a door opener (sometimes a door closer too).
/Erik
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Can someone define what a pro is?
Norm
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by pro I meant someone who makes a living by doing photography
regards,
Rogier
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>Can someone define wha
I'm not going there.
Bob
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From: "Norman Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Can someone define what a pro is?
> Norm
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I guess semi-pro (whatever that may mean)...
My main income is as Market researcher/Marketeer,
however most of my photography, which started as a
passionate hobby, is being paid for and I use it to
buy equipment and materials...therefore non-profit.
Michele
Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with
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> Can someone define what a pro is?
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I find it to be a great hobby/creative outlet. This way I can shoot
what I want and not worry about having to shoot what other people want.
That's what I keep telling myself, 'cause I know that I'd starve at my
current skill level.
It would be nice to be able to dedicate more time to it tho.
I'm asking the rest of the list permission to shoot to kill
>From: Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>And also, if you are not a pro and
Strictly hobby but by my wife's account the money I spend on my photo stuff
is "pro" quantity.
How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the goodies
and yet still be in good terms with
the significant other? For the single folks, how are you able to do it and
still have enou
And also, if you are not a pro and do it as a hobby, does that make you
an amateur?
Norm
T Rittenhouse wrote:
> Yes, Norm, you are a pro agitator.
>
> From: Norman Baugher
> > Can someone define what a pro is?
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 06:47:24 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the
>goodies
>and yet still be in good terms with
>the significant other?
I couldn't.
> For the single folks, how are you able to do
>it and
>still have enough dough?
The problem I have is that my wife is a Pentaxian as well so she 'notices'
the extra lens and then I usually loose it!
Alan
> There are many ingenious ways, some of the favorites -- pay
> cash, have the
> package shipped to the office or a friends house, sneak it
> home and mix it in
> with the
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the goodies
> and yet still be in good terms with
> the significant other?
Three things help. First, I occasionally do get paid for photogr
>There are many ingenious ways, some of the favorites -- pay cash,
>have the >package shipped to the office or a friends house, sneak it home and >mix it
>in >with the other stuff, so it's not readily noticed (doesn't work on >all >items)...
I have the good delivered to a coworker's house or, i
Single helps, you get to save since your not spending
money you would on "another" .
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> Strictly hobby but by my wife's account the money I
> spend on my photo stuff
> is "pro" quantity.
>
> How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able
> to buy all the goodies
You're more jaded than I am Tom ...
NOrm
tom wrote:
> >There are many ingenious ways, some of the favorites -- pay cash,
> >have the
> >package shipped to the office or a friends house, sneak it home and
> >mix it in
> >with the other stuff, so it's not readily noticed (doesn't work on
> >all
>
tom wrote:
> >There are many ingenious ways, some of the favorites -- pay cash,
> >have the
> >package shipped to the office or a friends house, sneak it home and
> >mix it in
> >with the other stuff, so it's not readily noticed (doesn't work on
> >all
> >items)...
>
> Find someone more accommoda
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:05:52 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Now, another question (slightly OT). Given the chance to go on a
>trip and
>spend $1k or to buy a used medium format camera, which would you
guys
>choose?
That one's actually tougher...since I already have most of the gear I
need,
$1000 is an MZ-S and BG grip, possible also squeazing
an AF360 in there to
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> On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:05:52 -0700,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >Now, another question (slightly OT). Given the
> chance to go on a
> >trip and
> >spend $1k or to buy a used medi
Easy - we're so far from anywhere in Australia that any overseas trip costs
more than a grand anyway! (In this context, I'm counting NZ as not overseas -
sorry, David and the other Kiwis)
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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At 10:02 11-4-2002 -0400, you wrote:
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Strictly hobby but by my wife's account the money I spend on my photo stuff
>is "pro" quantity.
>
>How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the goodies
>and yet still be in good terms with
>the significant other
Its never really been an issue with my partner, its my money to waste on
what ever i want :)
> >Strictly hobby but by my wife's account the money I spend on my photo
stuff
> >is "pro" quantity.
> >
> >How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the
goodies
> >and yet still be
Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Its never really been an issue with my partner, its my money to waste on
what ever i want :)
Paul,
You don't have kids, I take it?
Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 09:30 AM, Pål Audun Jensen wrote:
> I for one wish to do it for a living. I'm willing to divide my income
> with 50% in order to achieve it. Having a regular or "real" job is
> grossly overrated - I'm certainly only in it for the money.
Well, that's pretty muc
I shoot for myself mostly these days, so I'd say my shooting is a paid
hobby.
I print for a living, so I'm a pro at that end of it.
-Aaron
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You are right Tom,Its a lot cheaper than horse ownership:)
Dave(looking at a second horse today,and a lens??)Brooks
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> >How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy
> all the goodies
> >and yet still be in good terms with
> >the significant other?
>
> Aha! Simple.
> I AM the significant other ;-)
LOL! So am I! And my fiance can't say a word, because he's the one who
got me into it. ;)
--Amita
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mateur and hard at work
rediscovering the things that always made photography a joy for me.
John Poirier
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> I was wo
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> On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 05:48 AM, Norman Baugher wrote:
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> > Can someone define what a pro is?
>
> It would be time to trot out "Professional: The Musical" again, wouldn't
&g
Hi,
Short answer: someone who isn't a pro - which of course, only begs the
question...
That being said, I think of the French word "amateur", which means a "fan", as
in a sports fan. If I'm not mistaken, the root of the word, is "aime" (or the
Latin equivalent), so an amateur is someone who do
Well, the usual definition of a pro is someone who
derives all, or a major portion, of their income from
selling/licensing photographic images that they've made.
Everyone else is an amateur. Using any other metric than
percentage of income gets things into semantic quicksand
quickly.
> Hey, I
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> Hey, I am still waiting for that definition of what an amateur
photographer
> is.
>
> Ciao,
> Graywol
T Rittenhouse wrote:
> Hey, I am still waiting for that definition of what an amateur photographer
> is.
That one is easy. Canon has already published the answer -- someone who
uses a third-party lens.
Bob
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> Hi,
>
> Short an
Of course !
Ciao,
Graywolf
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> Well, the usual definition of a pro is someone who
> derives all, or a major portion, of their inc
Not serious... Ah, I see
There is always so much wailing and gnashing of teeth every time the "p" word
comes up, but I don't recall "amateur" being discussed here lately (I'm sure it
has been, I probably just missed it, or forgot about it).
Being as I know so little about cameras/photography,
[ I choose a random post to reply to, nothing particular about
this one. Oh, by the way, this IS NOT a rag on you guys and gals
who are professional photographers. It is a statement about how
the times they have/are a changing, more or less. ]
Graywolf wrote:
> Yes, I think that amateur i
to understand this comment? For my part I thought it was fun?! Am I
> wrong?
> Bernd
>>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:08:35 +0100
>>From: Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: pro or hobby
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm doing it as a penance...
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Have it shipped to your office. Then, wrap it up in the lunch bag or your
brief case, stop by the florist's on the way home, and quick while she's
putting water in the vase spirit your newly acquired booty to your "closet".
If you get caught, she's still got the flowers.
Best regards.
Chris
Of course, the flowers for no apparent reason are going to
arouse a lot of suspicion.
Len
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a guys gota do eh.
Dave
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My EX-wife never "allowed" me freedom or free time t
> My EX-wife never "allowed" me freedom or free time to pursue
> photography so I was languishing for several years in the mid
> nineties. Now she is my EX My current wife supports and
> encourages me to have creative outlets. She is my current subject
> (semi-willing) for my experimentation wi
I think our illustrious president is going to make that illegal
Christian
I WAS JUST MAKING A JOKE. PLEASE DO NOT START SOME
GOD-AWFUL OFF TOPIC THREAD ABOUT HUMAN CLONING OR
CLONING IN GENERAL OR ABOUT THE US OR THE US PRESIDENT
OR FOR THAT MATTER ABOUT ANYTHING POLITICAL, MORAL OR
REL
>My EX-wife never "allowed" me freedom or free time to pursue photography
>so I
>was languishing for several years in the mid nineties. Now she is my EX
[snip]
>So, in response to your question, I have nothing to "manage" and have no
>need
>to sneak around to purchase lenses, etc. I feel t
This one's simple. My wife smokes. When she asks how much a piece of
Pentax equipment costs, I tell her it is X weeks of smoking. That always
ends the discussion.
Joe
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My wife is tolerant of my camera expenditures. We've been married for 30
years. I think she gave up trying to control me about 20 years ago. And
I've been the sole support of our family for almost all of those years,
earning a fairly substantial income. I pretty much do as I please.
Paul
Joseph
Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My wife is tolerant of my
camera expenditures. ...I pretty much do as I please.
Paul.
The owner of my local hardware store is about 48. A couple years ago he
bought a 20-year-old red Ferrari. "How did you convince your wife?" I asked.
"I didn't ask,"
around
)
Bernd
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> My EX-wife never "allowed" me freedom or
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, David Brooks wrote:
> However,knowing i was going to sell pictures to
> finance it probably helped.
Simple question coming up...
Someone brought up the woman selling prints on Ebay yesterday evening, and
I notice no one bought any of hers. I also notice, browsing the listing
Well, we (actually, my sister) lists about 10 to 15 of our prints a week.
Some weeks we sell nothing, others, like last week, we sell 4 or 5. Just hope
that something you list tickles someone's fancy, I guess.
In terms of web sites, we set up our own. Well, actually my sister did.
There's some
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, frank theriault wrote:
> Well, we (actually, my sister) lists about 10 to 15 of our prints a week.
> Some weeks we sell nothing, others, like last week, we sell 4 or 5. Just hope
> that something you list tickles someone's fancy, I guess.
Well, that at least makes me feel a
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