[PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Hi Jeremy, Welcome to the List. I am otherwise occupied for the next couple of weeks so I will have to keep it to a single comment. This present topic is not really my thing. If you go back to my initial post on the Scientific Attitude and can detect the difference between that approach and the

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics (Charles Peirce/Clarence King, Evolution)

By way of follow up since I have been reading Clarence King. Let me note that King's version of evolution, so admired and approved of by Charles Peirce, is a form of Catastrophism. Essentially he argues, quite convincingly I might add, that periods of Catastrophe are primarily responsible for evol

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

t envt. Sure, time passes during this adaptive phase, but time > itself doesn't cause those adaptive changes. > > I hope that is clearer. > > Edwina > > > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Gary Richmond > *To:* Peirce-L > *Sent:* Friday, M

[PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

cosmology -- nothing >> was before because there was no before. >> >> John >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com] >> Sent: March 20, 2015 1:36 PM >> To: Peirce List >> Cc: Søren Brie

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

before. > > John > > -Original Message- > From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com] > Sent: March 20, 2015 1:36 PM > To: Peirce List > Cc: Søren Brier; Steven Ericsson-Zenith; Jon Awbrey > Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics >

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Unfortunately I do not have a lot of time right now and I am still in recovery. I also have projects that have my main attention. So the following should be deemed flawed and tentative. However, let me to point out that one needs to read more than the text Gary selected. Let us first clarify Char

[PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

“And if we want to explain the laws, there needs to be some history, some process of evolution, some dynamics by which laws change.” Or — Meta-laws are just laws. Jon http://inquiryintoinquiry.com > On Mar 20, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Gary Richmond wrote: > > Jon wrote: > > So laws have higher law

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Jon wrote: So laws have higher laws on their backs to smite them ... A pretty piece of poetry. But please state this in simple English so that we'll know *exactly* what you're saying. Best, Gary [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies*

[PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Re: Ben Udell At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15898 BU: "Who knows how much more radical the change and evolution may be? Ben, List, I thought this was always clear, but just to underline the point: It is always possible to imagine or invent extremely radical form

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Ben wrote: Now, I've read that the current understanding is that energy is not always conserved; as the universe expands, energy increases; as it contracts (if it ever does), energy decreases; this is because change of size of universe makes time asymmetrical, and energy conservation is a matter o

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Gary R., list, Your quote from Smolin: No, the key lesson of cosmological natural selection (CNS) is that it makes falsifiable predictions for real observations. In fact the predictions I published in 1992 have held up. To mention one: there can be no neutron stars heavier than twice

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

changes. I hope that is clearer. Edwina - Original Message - From: Gary Richmond To: Peirce-L Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics Edwina, Soren, Jon, list, I agree with you, Edwina, that a topic having been

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Here's Smolin, quoted from his Edge.org interview, on the same topic: *http://edge.org/conversation/think-about-nature * Now some of this is not new. The American philosopher, Charles Sanders Peirce, identified this issue that I’ve just mentioned i

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Here's a snippet from an interview this year of Smolin by John Horgan in *Scientific American* on the topic of laws evolving. http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/2015/01/04/troublemaker-lee-smolin-questions-if-physics-laws-are-timeless/ *Horgan*: You suggest above, and in your new book

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

List, Here's a seminal text, quoted a number of times on the list over the years, on Peirce's idea that laws evolve (more quotations when I have time). Now the only possible way of accounting for the laws of nature and for uniformity in general is to suppose them results of evolution. This s

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

efully balanced. >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> *From:* stevenzen...@gmail.com [mailto:stevenzen...@gmail.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Steven Ericsson-Zenith >> *Sent:* March 20, 2015 2:04 PM >> *To:* Søren Brier >> *Cc:* Jon Awbrey; Steven Ericss

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

has an answer in current cosmology -- nothing was before because there was no before. John -Original Message- From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com] Sent: March 20, 2015 1:36 PM To: Peirce List Cc: Søren Brier; Steven Ericsson-Zenith; Jon Awbrey Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L]

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

t; > John > > > > *From:* stevenzen...@gmail.com [mailto:stevenzen...@gmail.com] *On Behalf > Of *Steven Ericsson-Zenith > *Sent:* March 20, 2015 2:04 PM > *To:* Søren Brier > *Cc:* Jon Awbrey; Steven Ericsson-Zenith; Edwina Taborsky; Jerry LR > Chandler; Peirce List >

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Edwina, Soren, Jon, list, I agree with you, Edwina, that a topic having been addressed on peirce-l in the past might very well be fruitfully taken up at a later time since any number of list members may not have followed that earlier discussion or even joined the list after said discussion, while

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

:04 PM To: Søren Brier Cc: Jon Awbrey; Steven Ericsson-Zenith; Edwina Taborsky; Jerry LR Chandler; Peirce List Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics I responded to Soren. In fact, I mention Smolin in the post to which Soren responded. I am well aware of Smolin's work - and

[PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

I responded to Soren. In fact, I mention Smolin in the post to which Soren responded. I am well aware of Smolin's work - and I am surprised at it. Since when has eminence held muster in science? :-) Steven On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Søren Brier wrote: > Jon > > Thanks. I just wanted to re

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

List, Jon, Soren, Steven: Let's go a full step deeper into the inquiry of time. Start with the presumption that an event initiated the becoming into existence of concept of matter. (Alternatively, one can start with the Eastern view of the universe cycling and re-cycling itself which forces eve

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

uot; To: "Søren Brier" ; "Steven Ericsson-Zenith" ; "Edwina Taborsky" Cc: "Jerry LR Chandler" ; "Peirce List" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 10:40 AM Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics Thread: SB:http://permalink.

[PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Thread: SB:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15878 JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15879 SB:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15880 Søren, List, Oh, of course, it was nice to be reminded, and that inspired me to scan

[PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics

Re: Søren Brier At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15878 Søren, List, Smolin's 'Time Reborn' was the subject, or at least the instigation, of much discussion here and there around the web a couple years ago. From a cursory search, I think it was Michael Shapiro who br