Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-28 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
inte-Anne, Canada > > > > *De :* marty.rob...@neuf.fr > *Envoyé :* 28 septembre 2018 10:08 > *À :* Jon Alan Schmidt ; List < > peirce-l@list.iupui.edu> > *Objet :* Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign > classification > > >

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2018-09-28 Thread James Crombie
have worked with Robert!! James Crombie Philosophie/Sciences humaines Université Sainte-Anne, Canada De : marty.rob...@neuf.fr Envoyé : 28 septembre 2018 10:08 À : Jon Alan Schmidt ; List Objet : Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification J‌on Alan, list

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2018-09-28 Thread marty . robert
mathematical way." C.S. PEIRCE, MS 283 (v.1905) Best regards, Robert Marty De : "Jon Alan Schmidt" A : peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Envoyé: jeudi 27 septembre 2018 20:46 Objet : ***SPAM*** Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification Mats, Jeff,

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-27 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ly these terms. It is of course always difficult to say how > much weight one should place on a single letter; but in recent discussions > concerning semiotic matters, much has also been made of provisional remarks > and classifications found in Peirce’s notebooks. > > > > All best, > &

RE: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-27 Thread MB
From: Jeffrey Brian Downard Sent: 26 September 2018 20:13 To: Peirce-L Subject: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification List, Mats Bergman has written a review of Franceco's monograph. Here is a link in case you are interested: https://ndpr.nd.edu/news/pei

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-26 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
From: Gary Richmond Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:56 AM To: Peirce-L Subject: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification Jeff, Robert, Jon S, Francesco, List, Jeff, This is very helpful, perhaps especially this

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-25 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary R., Jeff, List: I am familiar with the debate between Lalor and Short, and have always found the latter more persuasive. For one thing, I find it misleading to imply that Peirce employed Emotional/Energetic/Logical earlier (not 1906 but 1907, in "Pragmatism") and Immediate/Dynamic/Final

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-25 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
for the interpretation of every sign. > > > --Jeff > > > Jeffrey Downard > Associate Professor > Department of Philosophy > Northern Arizona University > (o) 928 523-8354 > ---------- > *From:* Jon Alan Schmidt > *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 20

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-25 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
essor Department of Philosophy Northern Arizona University (o) 928 523-8354 From: Jon Alan Schmidt Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:13:58 AM To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification Robert, Li

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2018-09-24 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Robert, List: How can our understanding of the different correlates be "superfluous" to the classification of Signs accordingly? For one thing, the internal/external distinction helps explain why there are additional trichotomies for the (external) relations between the Sign and the Dynamic

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-24 Thread marty . robert
edu Envoyé: dimanche 23 septembre 2018 22:36 Objet : ***SPAM*** Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification Robert, List: All of the trichotomies are divisions into the Universes of Possibles, Existents, and Necessitants. I only distinguish "Mode of Prese

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Robert, List: All of the trichotomies are divisions into the *Universes *of Possibles, Existents, and Necessitants. I only distinguish "Mode of Presentation" from "Mode of Being" because *Peirce *clearly did so. CSP: The ten respects according to which the chief divisions of signs are

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-23 Thread marty.robert
Regards, Robert Marty Professeur Honoraire, PhD Mathematics, PhD Humanities, Free Thinker De : "Jon Alan Schmidt" A : peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Envoyé: samedi 22 septembre 2018 23:42 Objet : ***SPAM*** Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification Robert,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Robert, List: Thanks for your comments, and for joining the List discussion. RM: Od->Oi->S-->Ii-->Id->If I disagree. The Destinate Interpretant is what the Sign is *destined *to signify at the end of infinite inquiry by an infinite community; i.e., the *Final

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-22 Thread John F Sowa
On 9/22/2018 10:59 AM, marty.rob...@neuf.fr wrote: /It is evident that a possible can determine nothing but a Possible, it is equally so that a Necessitant can be determined by nothing but a Necessitant./ Thank you for that reminder (EP 2.481). In an earlier note on another topic, I

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-22 Thread marty . robert
ert Marty De : "Jon Alan Schmidt" A : peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Envoyé: jeudi 20 septembre 2018 23:06 Objet : ***SPAM*** Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification Robert, List: My apologies to all for the accidental post when I first started drafting this re

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Robert, List: My apologies to all for the accidental post when I first started drafting this reply. I was doing some reformatting and clicked on the "Send" button by mistake. I agree that Peirce used "replica" only for Legisigns in his 1903 taxonomy, such that his classification at that time

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Robert, List: Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM, wrote: > List, > > Robert Marty addressed this post to me and to the

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: It was brought to my attention off-List that I inadvertently sent my last post in this thread to Gary F., rather than to the List as intended. Since his comments below are interspersed with mine, I will not bother to repeat the latter. GF: The date of the note is of no

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-20 Thread gnox
List, Robert Marty addressed this post to me and to the list, but apparently didn’t send it to the list address, so I’m forwarding it here. It contains some important comments on Peirce’s use of the term “replica.” Thank you, Robert! Gary f. From: marty.rob...@neuf.fr

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-19 Thread gnox
Jon, a few brief responses inserted: From: Jon Alan Schmidt Sent: 19-Sep-18 13:07 Gary F., List: I was not previously aware of Peirce's marginal note about "Replica," so thank you for bringing it to my attention; the CP editors dated it "c. 1910," not 1904. He used "Replica" quite

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-19 Thread gnox
of a “sign-vehicle.” Gary f. From: Jon Alan Schmidt Sent: 18-Sep-18 21:07 To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification Gary R., List: I agree with your comments about Atkins's unfortunate take on the trichotomy according to the Sign

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-18 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary R., List: I agree with your comments about Atkins's unfortunate take on the trichotomy according to the Sign itself. It certainly does not pertain to "the Sign-Vehicle," since this is a term that Peirce himself never used. The closest that he came was when he wrote in an unidentified

[PEIRCE-L] Terminology of Peirce's final sign classification

2018-09-18 Thread Gary Richmond
List, For those who may not be familiar with the trichotomic terminology of Peirce's last classification of signs or who wish to refresh their memories, I've copied a portion of Albert Atkins 2010 article, "Peirce's Theory of Signs" in the *Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy* as perhaps an aid