[PEN-L:10514] Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Mathew Forstater
I have heard Phil Harvey of Rutgers Law School use this story on more than one occasion in public presentations. No matter how much dogs are trained to be good bone gatherers, as long as the number of bones remain fixed, there will still be dogs left without bones. Even if all dogs had

[PEN-L:10513] RE: Re: RE: Re: Co-optation and Heterodoxy

1999-08-31 Thread Craven, Jim
James Craven Clark College, 1800 E. McLoughlin Blvd. Vancouver, WA. 98663 (360) 992-2283; Fax: (360) 992-2863 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.home.earthlink.net/~blkfoot5 *My Employer Has No Association With My Private/Protected Opinion* -Original Message- From: Yoshie Furuhashi

[PEN-L:10510] FW: The Circle Game Part I

1999-08-31 Thread Craven, Jim
James Craven Clark College, 1800 E. McLoughlin Blvd. Vancouver, WA. 98663 (360) 992-2283; Fax: (360) 992-2863 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.home.earthlink.net/~blkfoot5 *My Employer Has No Association With My Private/Protected Opinion* -Original Message- From: Craven, Jim

[PEN-L:10511] pt 2 The Circle Game

1999-08-31 Thread Craven, Jim
James Craven Clark College, 1800 E. McLoughlin Blvd. Vancouver, WA. 98663 (360) 992-2283; Fax: (360) 992-2863 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.home.earthlink.net/~blkfoot5 *My Employer Has No Association With My Private/Protected Opinion* Part 2 of Excerpts from a Speech by Dr. Roland Chrisjohn

[PEN-L:10508] Billary's Digs

1999-08-31 Thread Craven, Jim
Poor Billary are going around New York carpetbagging and looking for some digs. Perhaps they could ask the Oneida or Cayuga or St. Regis or Seneca or Tuscarora or Onondaga or Tonawanda if they could move in on the Rez. I'm sure they could scare up an old HUD house for them to move in. I'm sure

request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread kelley
At 04:54 PM 8/31/1999 -0400, you wrote: When in public debates, people try to promote "entrepreneurship" , urging only it as the best economc career for people to follow, I say but everybody can't be the boss. Somebody has to be the workers. In fact, most people must be workers. So

[PEN-L:10506] Re: Co-optation and Heterodoxy

1999-08-31 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Jim Craven wrote: So I wondered about the application of this dialectical model (what is counterculture vs "mainstream" culture; fake counterculture vs "real" counterculture; influence of counterculture on "mainstream" culture vs de facto co-optation of counter-culture by "mainstream" culture

[PEN-L:10505] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Jim Devine
Jim Craven asks: "more-scientific" NAIRU? The NAIRU (non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment) is simply a description of a posited way in which the economy may (or may not) operate -- as opposed to the "natural" rate, which assumes that the NAIRU is somehow a gift from Nature (tastes

[PEN-L:10504] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Charles Brown
When in public debates, people try to promote "entrepreneurship" , urging only it as the best economc career for people to follow, I say but everybody can't be the boss. Somebody has to be the workers. In fact, most people must be workers. So entrepreneurship is a solution for only , what, 10

[PEN-L:10503] RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Craven, Jim
The Boneless Dog Economy is one of my favorites also. I also use some of Donald/Deidre Mcclosky's stuff on rhetorical intention and ask students to identify examples of hidden and not-so-hidden ideology and rhetorical intention in apparently "value-free" concepts like "consumer optimality",

[PEN-L:10502] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Ellen Frank
RE: unemployment I tell my students about an essay I read a few years back (I think in Harpers and I don't recall who wrote it). The writer said imagine a dog kennel containing 100 dogs. Each morning the dogs are released into a large yard where there are 90 bones. The dogs fight and scrape

[PEN-L:10501] Re: Re: Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Ellen Frank
Rod wrote: I find it hard enough getting students to understand the concepts in a first year principles course. Economic thinking is counter intuitive for most first year students. To other criticise of the concepts howerer desirable, seems only to confuse them. I had thought of just teaching

[PEN-L:10500] RE: Re: Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Craven, Jim
Jim Devine wrote: I must admit that when I teach intro. econ. I like to pretend to be a scientist, using this against the NC theory: I make it clear, for example, that the term "natural rate of unemployment" is a value-laden term, with fuzzy connotations (like "natural granola"), as opposed to

[PEN-L:10499] Re: Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Jim Devine
Rod wrote: I find it hard enough getting students to understand the concepts in a first year principles course. Economic thinking is counter intuitive for most first year students. To other criticise of the concepts howerer desirable, seems only to confuse them. I had thought of just teaching

[PEN-L:10497] Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Ellen Frank
Thanks to Wojtek for his comments and reminder that economic sociology is a good source of materials. Dollars and Sense is located in Somerville, MA (617-628-8411). Like Wojtek, I used to ask students to write about their jobs with fascinating results. I once had a student write a paper

[PEN-L:10498] RE: Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Craven, Jim
I do an exercise called "The Microeconomics of Single's Bars" and ask students to visit a local meat market and identify and give examples of which forms of "efficiency" (technological, economic, productive, consumer, exchange and allocative) are being manifested (with concrete examples); further

[PEN-L:10496] Re: Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Rod Hay
I find it hard enough getting students to understand the concepts in a first year principles course. Economic thinking is counter intuitive for most first year students. To other criticise of the concepts howerer desirable, seems only to confuse them. I had thought of just teaching an

[PEN-L:10495] FW: UN Dioxin POPs Urgency - E-mail Correction/Changes

1999-08-31 Thread Craven, Jim
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[PEN-L:10487] Re: Re: e: normal profits, etc.

1999-08-31 Thread Charles Brown
Doesn't the definition of "market" include "widely bought and sold" ? CB Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/31/99 12:18PM The relationship between initial production prices and prices on the second hand market is very loose for capital goods, except for those that are widely bought and

[PEN-L:10486] Re: Re: re: Single-Payer National Health Insurance

1999-08-31 Thread Carrol Cox
Patrick Bond wrote: Do you want Hillary's big insurance co's running everything? Putting them out of business through a single-payer is surely the first necessary if insufficient step towards more thorough-going reform of capitalist health care? It seems to me that the political strength

[PEN-L:10485] Baker on inflation

1999-08-31 Thread Jim Devine
In his on-line Economic Reporting Review, Dean Baker comments on a New York TIMES article by Sylvia Nasar: The article also asserts that increased competition due to the deregulation of industries such as airlines, railroads and telecommunications has been a major factor in keeping prices down.

[PEN-L:10484] Re: Re: re: Single-Payer National Health Insurance

1999-08-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Patrick Bond wrote: The small insurance folk put out endless inane commercials which (U.Penn Annenberg School media researchers convincingly show) tipped the public consciousness-balance. Actually, if I'm remembering right, the Harry Louise commercials ran mainly in New York DC, to convince

[PEN-L:10482] GLOBALIZATION REPORTING REVIEW 8/30/99 by Dean Baker

1999-08-31 Thread Robert Naiman
Globalization Reporting Review By Dean Baker August 31, 1999 Analysis of reporting on the IMF and globalization issues in the New York Times and the Washington Post. Excerpted from the Economic Reporting Review, by Dean Baker. You can sign up to receive ERR via email every week at

[PEN-L:10481] Re: e: normal profits, etc.

1999-08-31 Thread Charles Brown
Don't the costs to the seller for getting the capital good have some relation to what the buyer pays for it ? Charles Brown Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/31/99 10:57AM The problem that Ajit ignores is that most capital goods do not have a *price*. For example, a specialized piece

[PEN-L:10480] Re: Re: re: Single-Payer National Health Insurance

1999-08-31 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 10:08 AM 8/31/99 +, Patrick Bond wrote: Is this true? The small insurance folk put out endless inane commercials which (U.Penn Annenberg School media researchers convincingly show) tipped the public consciousness-balance. The small business lobbyists beat up on wavering members of

[PEN-L:10483] Re: Re: e: normal profits, etc.

1999-08-31 Thread Michael Perelman
The relationship between initial production prices and prices on the second hand market is very loose for capital goods, except for those that are widely bought and sold. Charles Brown wrote: Don't the costs to the seller for getting the capital good have some relation to what the buyer pays

[PEN-L:10479] Re: request on teaching

1999-08-31 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 12:01 PM 8/30/99 -0400, you wrote: Penners, I had replied to Mitch's questions off-list. But since Michael thought the questions of general interest, I'm forwarding my responses to the list. Ellen Frank 1. Especially in introductory classes, how do

[PEN-L:10478] Re: e: normal profits, etc.

1999-08-31 Thread Michael Perelman
The problem that Ajit ignores is that most capital goods do not have a *price*. For example, a specialized piece of capital goods may be specific to my firm. It might have a very low value for any other firm or have to be sold for scrap. If an accident destroyed this machine, I would buy a

[PEN-L:10476] Re: re: Single-Payer National Health Insurance

1999-08-31 Thread Patrick Bond
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:40:05 -0400 From: Wojtek Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two points. First, Christopeher Hitchens argues that Hillary's "reform" was, in fact, a move designed by big insurance firms and received a relatively mild oppsotion from smaller guys in the

[PEN-L:10475] Locating a quote

1999-08-31 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day all, Anyone know exactly where I got this Karlism? I've lost the cite and I haven't a clue where I picked it up. "... the *practice* of philosophy is itself *theoretical.* It is the *critique* that measures the individual existence by the essence, the particular reality by the Idea."

[PEN-L:10474] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: normal profits, etc.

1999-08-31 Thread Ajit Sinha
michael wrote: For some capital goods with an active national second hand goods, say cars with blue book values, you can do what you say. For most capital goods, you cannot. Many capital goods are too specialized to have a "price today." _ I find it hard to believe. If a

[PEN-L:10463] Re: Re: Re: Re: competition vs monopoly

1999-08-31 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Ann, With all due respect for Castells I think our Doug is one who believes that may not amount to too much - and I do reckon Castells pays for that gratifying big picture approach and pleasantly rambling style with too little specificity/definition on the very criteria with which he

[PEN-L:10516] job opening

1999-08-31 Thread Michael Perelman
"Philip J. McLewin" wrote: This is a re-posting of a search that did not lead to appointment last Spring. To apply formally apply to Dr. Hutchins (address listed in announcement below. You can contact me informally by e-mail. Philip J. McLewin Professor of Economics --