and Robin Cook Re: [PEN-L] Clinton, Kerry and Kosovo

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Burford
Robin Cook was explicit last night on BBC tv that he is an interventionist - and he cited Kosovo. The point he chose to make was that the declared basis for the intervention in Iraq did not turn out to be well founded, and if it was to liberate the Iraqi people from Saddam Hussein it was very ill

Peter Camejo vs. David Cobb: S/RES/1546

2004-06-25 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Peter Camejo vs. David Cobb: S/RES/1546: http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/peter-camejo-vs-david-cobb-sres1546.html -- Yoshie Furuhashi English Comparative Studies Ohio State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614-668-6554

Re: Putin

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
I wish they would follow his wishes. he wanted to be buried or cremated, I forget which. I doubt that anyone wants to be put on permanent display...jd--- It's a political decision. It was outrage a lot of conservatives (in the Russian sense of the word). Most people think he should be buried

Re: Zombie Lenin

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
Incidentally, the Lenin Mausoleum has a website in both Russian and English. It's a tourist attraction: http://www.aha.ru/~mausoleu/ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread sartesian
1.None of your business 2. I don't call it Marxist 3. No 4. The system that is so efficient that some won't have to eat cat food in their golden years requires that many don't eat period, that some cats eat better than many humans, that many never live to see golden years. So much for

Re: Putin

2004-06-25 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/25/2004 3:44:48 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a political decision. It has outraged a lot of conservatives (in the Russian sense of the word). Most people think he should be buried and the mausoleum turned into a museum. Wasn't

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread sartesian
Marx wrote volumes criticizing bourgeois economic theory, analyzing its class origins, its ideological obfuscations, and the necessity for the overthrow of bourgeois economic practice, with the emphasis on the last. He did not present an alternative political economy, propose morally or socially

Re: Putin

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
I wrote: It's a political decision. It has outraged a lot of conservatives (in the Russian sense of the word). I meant to say would outrage.

Russian migration from Chechnya

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
Just backing up my point. I have lots more material. (Thanks, Ralph!) This has been cut down considerably, since originally he sent me about 70K of materials from JTA and elsewhere. Chris: Sorry for the delays . . . I publish a newsletter on Russian Security and Military Affairs, which covers

Re: Russian migration from Chechnya

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
And that was just Jews. Lets see how other people were doing in the Wonderland of Independent Ichkeria. And I didn't even have to use Lexis-Nexis. KRO, Stavropol Authorities Sign Resettlement Agreement By RIA Novosti correspondent Andrey Malosolov MOSCOW, MAY 20, 1997 RIA NOVOSTI -- The

Re: query: trickle-down economics

2004-06-25 Thread nomi prins
Reverse-Robinhood? -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Devine, James Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L] query: trickle-down economics does anyone know of a good synonym for trickle-down economics besides

Re: Russian migration from Chechnya

2004-06-25 Thread Louis Proyect
Chris Doss wrote: Another 4,000 Leave Chechnya Fleeing Harrasment By Nikolay Styazhkin STAVROPOL, August 7, 1997 (Itar-Tass) -- About 4,000 refugees from Chechnya have come to Russia's southern Stavropol territory since the start of this year, a territorial migration service spokesman told

Re: Putin - Texas and the national factor- last post on this subject

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
Melvin: What of the question of Appalachia! The right of nations to self determination can be tricky if the dominate political group that advocates such right makes an assessment that ones group is not a nation. Exactly what is a national minority? What is a minority? What is an autonomous

Re: Russian migration from Chechnya

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
Just got sent another 100K of material on this... Amazing how much you can find out by not using Lexis-Nexis. Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!

Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Charles Brown
I always wonder whether Marx intended the concepts in _Capital_ to be used in detailed analyses of things like oil price fluctuations or concrete business cycles. The only practice that might accompany such analyses would be such things as Keynesian and social dem reforms to soften the impact of

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Devine, James
Volume I of CAPITAL is all about class domination, exploitation, and struggle. But volumes II and III are more superficial (in Marx's terms), dealing with the relationships among industries, issues of finance, etc. In fact, volume III is in many ways the same as the bourgeois political economy

Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Charles Brown
by sartesian Marx wrote volumes criticizing bourgeois economic theory, analyzing its class origins, its ideological obfuscations, and the necessity for the overthrow of bourgeois economic practice, with the emphasis on the last. He did not present an alternative political economy, propose

Re: query: trickle-down economics

2004-06-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Krugman used dooh nibor or robin hood spelled backwards. On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 09:03:32AM -0400, nomi prins wrote: Reverse-Robinhood? -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Devine, James Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:39 PM To: [EMAIL

Putin

2004-06-25 Thread Charles Brown
If there are going to be memorials, monuments and statues to great people, like the Lincoln Monument, for example, the actual person's body is a kind of cool variation of those institutions. The actual person's body is , I don't know, heavier/deeper, if one is not skiddish about dead bodies. In a

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Michael Perelman
David, please cool it. There is not need to be abusive here. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Jim is absolutely correct here. Like Doug says, part of surviving in the capitalist world is having resources to cover one's expenses after retirement, especially if you have responsibility for other family members. Reconciling marxist beliefs in a capitalist world is a tricky situation for all

query on insurance industry

2004-06-25 Thread Louis Proyect
From a correspondent: I'm wondering if you know offhand a Marxist analysis of the recent rise in insurance premiums (as being due to bad investment as opposed to tort claims running wild). Also, do you know of a Marxist analysis of the insurance industry specifically? -- The Marxism list:

Re: Putin

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
Did you tell me once or did I hear that they closed or moved the Lenin museum at the end of Red Square there ? Anyway, they already had the museum. John Reed and Big Bill Haywood are outback with Stalin. --- Damn it's late. Time to get away from the computer in search of sweet, sweet beer. John

Re: Putin

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
BTW there's a lot of this rehabilitating of Soviet themes in Putin's Russia -- bringing back the Soviet anthem and the Red Flag, naming schools after and erecting statues to Andropov, putting the plaque to honor Andropov back in the Lubyanka, Luzhkov wanting to put the statie of Dzerzhinsky back

Re: Putin

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Doss
If there are going to be memorials, monuments and statues to great people,like the Lincoln Monument, for example, the actual person's body is a kindof cool variation of those institutions. SIMI VALLEY, CA--Slave manpower was doubled this week in an effort to assure that erection of the

hunger a question

2004-06-25 Thread michael
Here is an article from today's Wall Street Journal regarding the failure of economic growth to eliminate poverty -- relating in part to the outcome of the Indian election. Actually, the graph accompanying the article shows a very slight decrease in absolute poverty over the last decade or so,

Dogville: God Doesn't Bless America

2004-06-25 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Dogville: God Doesn't Bless America: http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/message-of-dogville-dir.html -- Yoshie * Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/ * Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/ * Calendars of Events in Columbus:

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread s.artesian
I think Jim is absolutely incorrect here, and also in regard to Marx's works. First, I don't believe anything I said is abusive. I answered Mr. Henwood in exactly the tone he addressed me. I answered with gusto the notion that we can be Marxist debt-holders. And as I stated earlier, I can't

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Devine, James
Sartesian writes: I think Jim is absolutely incorrect here, and also in regard to Marx's works. gee, I've never been _absolutely_ incorrect before. I'm worse than the proverbial stopped clock! To not feel, read, see that the class struggle is the red thread through every bit of Vol 2

educators sign-on letter on Venezuela

2004-06-25 Thread Robert Naiman
hello, everyone. to US and Canada folks: please consider acting on the following request. feel free to respond to me with any questions. -Robert Naiman (in Washington DC for the summer, but back in the PhD program in economics at UIUC in the academic year) -- Robert Naiman Senior Policy

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread s.artesian
Reading JD, I thought I'd go back and check the archives, because I could have sworn somebody was actually giving financial advice in response to the original query. The thread started on 21 June. Jim's was the first response-- his words were diversify, diversify, diversify.. he did warn

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Devine, James
Sartesian writes: Now for Marx's writings. ... Is there more to Marx than the class struggle? Yes. But there is nothing to Marx without that class struggle. All that is more is the expansion of the that core. agreed. The competitition of capital's is a manifestation of the flaw in the

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Jim: The guidance I gave, as Michael Perelman noted, was simply common sense, not something from Marx (though I doubt Marx would reject the advice). Put differently, it was simply common nonsense. If Roach is right and the equity bubble of the late 1990s was a transforming event in many

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Devine, James
c'mon! Diversification is diversification, not diversification only in dollar assets. Strictly speaking, diversification includes holding gold and canned food, along with euros and rupiahs. It's true that if the world economy melts down (or if the scenario of the flick the Day After Tomorrow

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
c'mon! Diversification is diversification, not diversification only in dollar assets. Strictly speaking, diversification includes holding gold and canned food, along with euros and rupiahs. Well! Nice to see that we agree. Now let us give some Marxist financial advice based on this

Chat about Financial Advice, was Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Carrol Cox
Sabri Oncu wrote: This is not diversification at all. It is a single bet, a bet on the US dollar hegemony, whose future is more uncertain than ever. Let's remember that very few if any of the subscribers to this list have much in the way of discretionary investment. So the question (which

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread s.artesian
-Original Message- From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 25, 2004 6:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Marxist Financial Advice The only condition is that you have to be someone I like. Sartesian has no hope to get that 20 Million Liras Turkish banknote from me,

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Michael Perelman
David is right here. Banter is fine when both parties are on the same page, but once tempers get a little warm, its best to lay off. On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 07:20:28PM -0400, s.artesian wrote: -Original Message- From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 25, 2004 6:56 PM To:

Re: Putin - Texas and the national factor- last post on this subject

2004-06-25 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/25/2004 8:40:18 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The situation is particularly complicated in a state like the USSR and Russian Federation, neither of which were/are nation-states. (None of the ex-Soviet republics are nation-states, which maybe

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Devine, James
I won't ask how much 20 million Turkish Liras are worth but I'm going to diversify by putting my assets into gin _and_ tonic or scotch _and_ soda. jd -Original Message- From: PEN-L list on behalf of Sabri Oncu Sent: Fri 6/25/2004 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL

Descendants: Class Dismissed in Affirmative Action

2004-06-25 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
'Descendants': Class Dismissed in Affirmative Action (about the dearth of the descendants of American slaves at elite colleges and universities, the majority of whose Black students are children of immigrant parents and/or biracial families):

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread sartesian
I wish I could fully support Mr. Devine's portfolio plan. I cannot. I believe vodka is preferable to gin. Freezing cold vodka. Straight up, with a twist. Many twists. Like life. Name the author: The passions of the human heart are as twisted as a corkscrew.

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Sartesian: Hey, didn't you read what Michael said about nastiness? It is you who is nasty, not I. I am just responding in kind. If I weren't such a thick-skinned, jolly, all around sweet guy I might be tempted to answer in kind. What a coincidence that we used the same phrase. I must

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael: David is right here. Banter is fine when both parties are on the same page, but once tempers get a little warm, its best to lay off. What is wrong with letting a person know that you do not like him Michael? Do we have to like everybody? Does everybody have to like each of us? It