The Soviet Union was defeated, as was the Ottoman Empire before it
and Yugoslavia after it -- first economically, later politically
(mainly from inside the the Soviet Union, its multinational elites
acting against its multinational masses) or with a combined
political, economic, and military
In a message dated 7/31/2004 7:33:32 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As I recall DuBois and James Jackson produced the best
articles on the national question (especially as it regarded African Americans)
for PA in the 1950s, all of which broke with the "Black-belt
In a message dated 7/31/2004 4:17:43 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I remember trying to speak with the boyfriend of my first
wife's mother. He worked in a gas station. He was not stupid, but he
was angry. He directed much of this anger at Blacks, but I think he was
--- michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This was the problem that I was referring to when I
was trying to
describe a progression of fragmentations. I first
began to think about
this sort of problem when Lebanon began to fall
apart. At first, it
seemed to be a religious division, but then I
Chris wrote:
Look at the post-Soviet situation in the early 90s. The Union falls
apart, and you immediately start having all these bloody ethnic
conflicts around its former borders: Armenians vs. Azerbaijanis,
Georgians vs. Abkhazians and Ossetians, Romanians vs. Russians,
Ossetians vs. Ingush...
Melvyn's story about his dealings with the red necks at the workplace illustrate the
degree of skill required to navigate the class divide. No easy answers in this
regard.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at
On the subject of foreign fighters in Chechnya, I
should have added that, if memory serves, both the
Kremlin and the various rebel sources put the number
of foreigners in Chechnya at any given time at about
200. So, it's not a lot (given that there are
supposedly about 1,500 full-time fighters).
I wrote:
On the subject of foreign fighters in Chechnya, I
should have added that, if memory serves, both the
Kremlin and the various rebel sources put the number
of foreigners in Chechnya at any given time at about
200. So, it's not a lot (given that there are
supposedly about 1,500 full-time
--- Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If Kurds, Kashmiris, Chechens, etc. exercised the
right to
self-determination, would that necessarily result in
the breakup of
Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, India, and Russia?
Presumably, they could
very well choose to remain part of the countries in
--- Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The question, I thought, was whether Kurds, Kashmiris,
and Chechens
(as well as East Timorese, Albanians in Kosovo, etc.
from recent
history) have the right to self-determination.
---
Yoshie, upon a little reflection, I think this is a
pretty naive
In a message dated 7/31/2004 8:22:28 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In 1991, Grozny's population was about 50% non-Chechen. The Nautsky
district in Chechnya was about 75% non-Chechen, mostly Russians, Ukrainians and
Cossacks who lived there since the 15th century. Those
This was the problem that I was referring to when I was trying to
describe a progression of fragmentations. I first began to think about
this sort of problem when Lebanon began to fall apart. At first, it
seemed to be a religious division, but then I began to realize that
there were divisions
Ours is a war for position and ideological and political
statements are converted into policy . . . in real time. Who determines "what"
is the great war of attribution and will. If we win over no we lose by default.
We cannot win over any segment of our working class on the
basis of
Melvyn posed posed one of the truly difficult challenges that the left faces:
learning how to learn from the masses at the same time as we supply them with
information. Listening is a very difficult skill. I remember trying to speak with
the boyfriend of my first wife's mother. He worked in a
Waistline2 wrote:
In my estimate the American Marxists are the least qualified amongst world
Marxists when dealing with the national factor. Between 1973 and I978 I had
compiled much of the writings on the national factor in our history using a
collection of roughly 30 years of Political Affairs
At 6:22 AM -0700 7/31/04, Chris Doss wrote:
--- Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The question, I thought, was whether Kurds, Kashmiris, and Chechens
(as well as East Timorese, Albanians in Kosovo, etc. from recent
history) have the right to self-determination.
---
Yoshie, upon a little
In a message dated 7/31/2004 7:33:32 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would be interested to learn which articles in PA you
considered valuable and those which you found unhelpful on the subject of the
national question. As I recall DuBois and James Jackson produced
Michael Perelman,
Some posters on this list have expressed their support
for the breakup of Russia, India, Iran, Iraq, Syria
and Turkey. I would like know what is your personal
opinion in this matter.
Ulhas
Yahoo! India
I don't have any simple answers. On the one hand, fragmentation makes for
inefficiencies.
On the other hand, the larger the extent of the central government, a greater number of
minority groups might find themselves oppressed.
Even if you fragment the state, you'll probably find even smaller
Michael Perelman wrote:
I don't have any simple answers.
Please unsubscribe me from your list.
Ulhas
Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online
Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony
Ulhas Joglekar wrote:
Some posters on this list have expressed their support
for the breakup of Russia, India, Iran, Iraq, Syria
and Turkey.
this is a bit of an unfair characterization, especially if it refers to
my contributions on these threads. i should probably check the archives
first,
Ulhas Joglekar wrote:
Michael Perelman,
Some posters on this list have expressed their support
for the breakup of Russia, India, Iran, Iraq, Syria
and Turkey. I would like know what is your personal
opinion in this matter.
It is a (sort of) interesting _academic_ pursuit for leftists in
Michael Perelman,
Some posters on this list have expressed their support for the
breakup of Russia, India, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey. I would like
know what is your personal opinion in this matter.
Ulhas
The question, I thought, was whether Kurds, Kashmiris, and Chechens
(as well as East
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