The ad CBS refused to run

2004-01-31 Thread joanna bujes
This is the ad that CBS refused to run: http://www.moveon.org/cbs/ad/ Go to the page and just click somewhere on the page.

Re: The ad CBS refused to run

2004-01-31 Thread Michael Perelman
This add is excellent, if MoveOn wants to appeal to Republicans. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

protection rents: ad infinitum.....

2002-12-15 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.austin360.com/statesman/editions/sunday/business_1.html Once, the tech industry was a lobbying lightweight in Washington. Then Congress tried to attack stock options -- and high-tech learned how to be a force to be reckoned with on Capitol Hill. By Marilyn Geewax WASHINGTON BUREAU

UMKC Job ad

2001-11-27 Thread Forstater, Mathew
A few days ago I posted a job ad for a position at UMKC and said that it was not the final final version. I don't have the final final in hand, but two important changes. First, the level is now open--assistant, associate or full may be hired. Second, a Ph.D. in economics is not required

[Fwd: Student Protests Against Horowitz Ad]

2001-03-28 Thread Carrol Cox
Original Message Subject: Student Protests Against Horowitz Ad Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:56:49 -0500 (EST) From: Black Radical Congress [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This is a Press Release/Statement

Fwd: NEWS: Ad Insult to Injury

2000-11-01 Thread Jim Devine
forwarded from SLATE magazine: Another new [TV] ad is flagged near the bottom of the Post lead: a new one for Ralph Nader that parodies Monster.com spots in which children say what they want to be when they grow up. Sample lines: "I want to be lied to." "I want to be apat

Re: Fwd: NEWS: Ad Insult to Injury

2000-11-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: BTW, is there any chance that there's some overlap between the people who criticized Nader 4 years ago for not making a serious campaign and those who now criticize him for making a serious campaign? Both views seem to have been expressed in the [US] NATION magazine.

Re: Re: AS/AD

2000-08-31 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Brad, Which JEP article was that, please? Dave C. has bloviated on AS/AD so many times and in so many places that I am beginning to lose track. Also, others might want to check his article out, even if AS/AD is a non-issue Barkley Rosser -Original Message- From: Brad DeLong

AS/AD

2000-08-31 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
One more point. If I remember correctly although McKenna may have introduced AS/AD back in 1955, only to have it not take, when it took was after it was introduced by Baumol and Blinder in the late 1970s, although I think Branson might have beaten them to the punch then. Anyway, just

AD?

2000-08-31 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
michael, OK, I grant that on pp. 300-303 of the GT, Keynes does not describe an AD curve in P-Q space, although he clearly describes an AS, curve, without calling it that. So, perhaps a downward-sloping AD curve in P-Q space is "non-Keynesian" in that sense. But, why i

Re: AD?

2000-08-31 Thread michael
that on pp. 300-303 of the GT, Keynes does not describe an AD curve in P-Q space, although he clearly describes an AS, curve, without calling it that. So, perhaps a downward-sloping AD curve in P-Q space is "non-Keynesian" in that sense. But, why is it "anti-Keynesian"? A

Re: Re: AD?

2000-08-31 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
michael, I get the message that most (if not all) are losing interest in this, so this will be my last on this. But. Not clear to me why AS/AD implies some focus on prices as a policy variable, other than that they are in there. Maybe there is more of a tilt there. Keynesians

Re: Re: Re: AD?

2000-08-31 Thread michael
because prices are on the vertical axis. michael, I get the message that most (if not all) are losing interest in this, so this will be my last on this. But. Not clear to me why AS/AD implies some focus on prices as a policy variable, other than

Tom Palley on AS/AD

2000-08-30 Thread Michael Perelman
Dear Jim, Thank-you for your kind words about my book on PK Economics. Some observations: (1) Romer's AD schedule is in fact the IS schedule. His model is IS-LM with a horizontal LM. The monetary authority is just setting the interest rate - something lots of PKs have maintained for a very long

Re: Tom Palley on AS/AD

2000-08-30 Thread Jim Devine
Michael Perelman forwarded a letter from Tom Palley to me concerning AS/AD, IS/LM, etc. Thank-you for your kind words about my book on PK Economics. Some observations: (1) Romer's AD schedule is in fact the IS schedule. His model is IS-LM with a horizontal LM. The monetary authority is just

Re: Tom Palley on AS/AD

2000-08-30 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
And, one other thing: AS/AD does NOT require a fixed money supply, although several people on this list have asserted that it does. Certainly to make the "Keynes effect" argument or the more standard version of the "Pigou effect" argument for why AD

Re: AS/AD

2000-08-30 Thread Brad DeLong
Why is this AS/AD debate important? Doug Damned if I know. But I do know that Colander's article on it for the _JEP_ generated more correspondence than any two other articles... Brad DeLong

AS/AD

2000-08-29 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
I apologize for giving such a flip answer to Doug's question. Showed my own frustration. But, I would like to follow up a bit more. Peter is probably right that the major focus on AS/AD does involve teaching econ and especially at the introductory level. For better or worse it has

Re: AS/AD

2000-08-29 Thread Jim Devine
) is not the assumption of continuous full employment but rather the version of Say's Law that says that increased saving (nowadays in the form of an increased government budget surplus) leads to increased investment. Of course, this whole issue is hidden behind the scenes in the AS/AD diagram. To talk about it using

Re: Re: AS/AD

2000-08-29 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
:45 PM Subject: [PEN-L:941] Re: AS/AD Barkley wrote: ... Let me mention one more aspect of this that may extend beyond just the confines of the principles of econ class. If you were following at all closely you may noticed me making a big deal about whether books were using a vertical AS curve

Re: Re: Re: AS/AD -- QUERY

2000-08-29 Thread Carrol Cox
I don't know whether I missed posts in which AS/AD was expanded or whether everyone has presumed knowledge from the beginning. But what does AS/AD stand for? Carrol

Re: Re: Re: AS/AD

2000-08-29 Thread Jim Devine
At 05:14 PM 8/29/00 -0400, you wrote: usually this Say's Law argument [i.e., that saving promotes investment] is dragged in for the long run analysis. But, the new wave led by the execrable Mankiw (...) is to place this huge emphasis on long run growth. In the NATION magazine, there's an

Re: Re: AS/AD

2000-08-29 Thread Brad De Long
Barkley wrote: ... Let me mention one more aspect of this that may extend beyond just the confines of the principles of econ class. If you were following at all closely you may noticed me making a big deal about whether books were using a vertical AS curve or not. This assumption, increasingly

Re: Re: Re: AS/AD

2000-08-29 Thread Brad De Long
Jim, But usually this Say's Law argument is dragged in for the long run analysis. But, the new wave led by the execrable Mankiw (with even Colander now tagging along, bah) is to place this huge emphasis on long run growth. I imagine that Brad D. approves of this, given his ten billion

Re: Re: Re: Re: AS/AD -- QUERY

2000-08-29 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Carrol, AS = aggregate supply and AD = aggregate demand. BTW, although I spent a lot of time in my repartee with that ex-hippie Peter Dorman, :-), on why or how AD slopes down, that is not a big deal for me, although it is if one wants to show a cost-push inflation. The more important

Re: Re: Re: AS/AD

2000-08-29 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: ... The key classical assumption that pervades economics (and, seemingly, Al Gore's mind) is not the assumption of continuous full employment but rather the version of Say's Law that says that increased saving (nowadays in the form of an increased government budget surplus) leads to

Why is AS/AD important?

2000-08-28 Thread Michael Perelman
required to do real teaching. Doug Henwood wrote: Why is this AS/AD debate important? Doug -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Fwd: [BRC-MUMIA] Educators for Mumia Ad]

2000-02-11 Thread Carrol Cox
URGENT MEMO ! "EDUCATORS FOR MUMIA" NYTIMES AD NEEDS YOUR HELP NOW! From Mark Taylor, Coordinator of the "Educators for Mumia" Ad Campaign. ___ With Mumia Abu-Jamal facing the very important Feder

[PEN-L:12842] JOB AD (fwd)

1999-10-21 Thread Anthony D'Costa
the ad. I am getting lots of queries!! Please do note that the hires will be at the Assistant Prof level with a Ph.D. Cheers, Anthony P. D'Costa Research Member Associate Professor

[PEN-L:3027] Re:job ad

1999-02-07 Thread Tom Walker
You think the job is alienated? What do you think the prescriptions are for? michael yates wrote, Here is a job ad from a Pittsburgh paper. Talk about alienated labor! ROBOT TECHNICIAN "Robot technicians assist a robotic prrescription-filling unit with fi

[PEN-L:3026] job ad

1999-02-07 Thread Michael Yates
Here is a job ad from a Pittsburgh paper. Talk about alienated labor! ROBOT TECHNICIAN "Robot technicians assist a robotic prrescription-filling unit with filling prescriptions. Duties include preparing prescription vials, loading those vials onto the

[PEN-L:1849] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Redutio ad Absurdum

1998-12-22 Thread Jim Devine
At 02:58 PM 12/22/98 EST, you wrote: No, unlike Bill's, my apology is sincere and as for close to Bill's, well you know the rest..."close but no cigar". But you know, reductio ad absurdum/nauseum as a instrument of rhetoric and reasoning does not so much suggest analogy as to expore

[PEN-L:1847] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Redutio ad Absurdumboundary=part0_914356735_boundary

1998-12-22 Thread Nativejmc
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_914356735_boundary No, unlike Bill's, my apology is sincere and as for close to Bill's, well you know the rest..."close but no cigar". But you know, reductio ad absurdum/nauseum as a instrument of rhetoric and reasoning does n

[PEN-L:1844] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Redutio ad Absurdumboundary=part0_914354916_boundary

1998-12-22 Thread Nativejmc
3:42:21 -0500 (EST) Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:43:57 -0800 (PST) be forged)) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:25:22 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:1839] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Redutio ad Absurdum In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTE

[PEN-L:1839] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Redutio ad Absurdum

1998-12-22 Thread Jim Devine
Jim Craven writes: The reason I see Auschwitz as an inexorable metaphor/expression of libertarianism is on the plane of the sterile, cold, calculating, selfish calculus of maximization, "optimality", "efficiency" dog-eat-dog and rat-race individualism embodied in the libertarian perspective

[PEN-L:1835] Fwd: Re: Re: Redutio ad Absurdumboundary=part0_914344462_boundary

1998-12-22 Thread Nativejmc
998 10:25:19 -0500 (EST) Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:25:01 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:23:25 -0500 Subject: [PEN-L:1830] Re: Re: Redutio ad Absurdum In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] v04003a01b2a44c1f5fdc@[136.152.90.200] Reply-To: [EMAIL PR

[PEN-L:1830] Re: Re: Redutio ad Absurdum

1998-12-22 Thread sokol
At 04:36 PM 12/21/98 -0800, Ken Hanly wrote: This is quite a different situation than people voluntarily trading to an equilibrium in a market. No libertarian would approve of Auschwitz. It is a clear violation of rights. Jews didn't voluntarily work in the labor camps or go to the gashouses

[PEN-L:1796] Re: Redutio ad Absurdum

1998-12-22 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Brad, Thanks for this: I think famines work better--they make the point that if your labor-time endowment has no value, then your utility has no weight in the social welfare function that the market maximizes, and so you starve to death: the market's equilibrium weighs each person's

[PEN-L:1818] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Reductio Ad/Absurdum/Nauseum/Inhumboundary=part0_914300637_boundary

1998-12-21 Thread Nativejmc
Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:42:24 -0500 (EST) Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:42:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick Bond" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:47:40 + Subject: [PEN-L:1817] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Reductio Ad/Absurdum/Nauseum/Inhum Reply-To: [EMAIL PRO

[PEN-L:1817] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Reductio Ad/Absurdum/Nauseum/Inhum

1998-12-21 Thread Patrick Bond
that it got the Economist's blessing for impeccable argumentation). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Response: That is exactly right. Summers later claimed it was his own kind of "reductio ad absurdum/nauseum" exercise he was doing. The problem is that that memo had been widely

[PEN-L:1808] Re: Redutio ad Absurdum

1998-12-21 Thread Ken Hanly
Brad De Long wrote: "I do a little number in my Micro classes called "Pareto Optimality at Auschwitz" ... " Way back, I changed degrees half a semester into an education/economics degree. Those who purported to teach how to teach couldn't teach, and those who purported to

[PEN-L:1774] Reductio Ad/Absurdum/Nauseum/Inhumanum

1998-12-21 Thread Nativejmc
I loved the reference to the infamous "Summers Memo" as a concentrated expression/self-parody of neoclassical economics "applied" and the resultant reductio ad/absurdum/nauseum/inhumanum. Imagine, how refined and sterile the suggestion/assertion that the calculus of marginal &

[PEN-L:1792] Redutio ad Absurdum

1998-12-21 Thread Brad De Long
"I do a little number in my Micro classes called "Pareto Optimality at Auschwitz" ... " Way back, I changed degrees half a semester into an education/economics degree. Those who purported to teach how to teach couldn't teach, and those who purported to explain human behaviour weren't talking

[PEN-L:1800] Re: Redutio ad Absurdum

1998-12-21 Thread sokol
At 11:11 AM 12/21/98 -0800, Brad deLong wrote: I think famines work better because starvation is not a willed and desired objective of anyone in the market--while mass death certainly was a willed and desired objective of those who ran the show during the "final solution." Hmm... Wasn't

[PEN-L:1806] Fwd: Redutio ad Absurdumboundary=part0_914277192_boundary

1998-12-21 Thread Nativejmc
ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:1792] Redutio ad Absurdum Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I do a little number in my Micro classes called "Pareto Optimality at Auschwitz" ... " Way back, I changed degrees half a semester into an education/economic

[PEN-L:1779] Fwd: Re: Re: Reductio Ad/Absurdum/Nauseum/Inhumanumboundary=part0_914258616_boundary

1998-12-21 Thread Nativejmc
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_914258616_boundary Response: That is exactly right. Summers later claimed it was his own kind of "reductio ad absurdum/nauseum" exercise he was doing. The problem is that that memo had been widely circulated and quoted internally-

[PEN-L:1775] Re: Reductio Ad/Absurdum/Nauseum/Inhumanum

1998-12-21 Thread valis
I loved the reference to the infamous "Summers Memo" as a concentrated expression/self-parody of neoclassical economics "applied" and the resultant ... applied when they deign to descend the lofty heights of theory to actual

[PEN-L:1554] Incorrect Model of Language in TRACTATUS ( Was RE AD NAUSEAM_

1998-12-14 Thread Ken Hanly
IN response to Ajit, I was referring to the fact that Wittgenstein thought that his model of how language operated in the TRACTATUS was incorrect. The INVESTIGATIONS is an extended critique of that model among other things. Some people seem to think that it provides an alternative model--that

[PEN-L:1408] Re: Re Ad Infinitum3.0.6.32.19981208112637.00793ac0@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu3.0.1.32.19981208100216.008ea5a0@popserver.panix.com3.0.6.32.19981208093919.007f7210@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu199812072258.RAA01417@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu19981207220933.8772.qmail@hotmail.com 3.0.1.32.19981209091330.00aa3d98@popserver.panix.com

1998-12-09 Thread Michael Perelman
Louis Proyect wrote: Speaking of enlightenment, can we do somethinb about the "RE RE RE RE RE ad infinitum" problem? Yes, and no. The software will keep inserting the RE's, but you can manually edit them out before you send your message.-- Michael Perelman Economics Department

[PEN-L:555] NY Times Ad for Mumia, Friday, October 16th

1998-10-17 Thread Paul Zarembka
Below is a message I have received that the Mumia support ad appeared in the New York Times yesterday. Below that I include the resolution in support of a retrail for Mumia which passed the UUP Delegate Assembly--the faculty and professional staff union of SUNY. In Solidarity, Paul Zarembka

[PEN-L:49] Re: Leonard Weinglass' [attorney for Mumia] answer to NYT Ad

1998-06-24 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 01:26 24/06/98 -0400, you wrote: This response from Mumia's attorney to a NYT ad surveys the deficiencies of the state's case for killing Mumia and provides a basis for understanding a demand for Mumia's immediate release. Paul Zarembka __ What can a person like me, who

[PEN-L:48] Leonard Weinglass' [attorney for Mumia] answer to NYT Ad

1998-06-24 Thread Paul Zarembka
This response from Mumia's attorney to a NYT ad surveys the deficiencies of the state's case for killing Mumia and provides a basis for understanding a demand for Mumia's immediate release. Paul Zarembka -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:23:09 EDT From: [EMAIL

[PEN-L:12186] Re: Slagging Di [ad nauseam]

1997-09-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The issue I think isn't Diana but the common understanding of her, which is deeply flawed, to say the least. Though this addressed a comment of Sid's, my answer is that Diana, for reasons I've already mentioned, was and is a profoundly British phenomenon. Let the Brits sort her out; the

[PEN-L:9402] social democracy ad infinitum

1997-04-08 Thread James Devine
I'm sorry if the following repeats anything that Sid, Elaine, Anders, and Louis said (not because they're wrong but because repetition is boring). I'll limit my discussion to a small number of points. Sorry if my missive is still too long.

[PEN-L:9361] Requiem Ad Nauseum

1997-04-06 Thread Max B. Sawicky
The ascension of Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and similar developments (e.g., the defeat of the far-right) have set off a new round of angst over the shortcomings of social democracy of which Jim Devine's (JD) "requiem" is the object of my criticism. One immediate spur was Blair's pledge to

[PEN-L:8410] Re: BalBudget Ad

1997-01-30 Thread Max B. Sawicky
On 30 Jan 97 at 10:06, Doug Henwood wrote: At 9:26 AM 1/30/97, Max B. Sawicky wrote: In my perception of the political/media/public treatment of UE, when UE breaches 7.0 it's a signal that there's a problem. Short of that, we're in the de factor NAIRU zone, under the conventional wisdom.

[PEN-L:8401] Re: BalBudget Ad

1997-01-30 Thread Doug Henwood
At 9:26 AM 1/30/97, Max B. Sawicky wrote: In my perception of the political/media/public treatment of UE, when UE breaches 7.0 it's a signal that there's a problem. Short of that, we're in the de factor NAIRU zone, under the conventional wisdom. If it is possible to make an effective stink

[PEN-L:8403] Re: BalBudget Ad

1997-01-30 Thread blairs
At 9:26 AM 1/30/97, Max B. Sawicky wrote: In my perception of the political/media/public treatment of UE, when UE breaches 7.0 it's a signal that there's a problem. Short of that, we're in the de factor NAIRU zone, under the conventional wisdom. If it is possible to make an effective stink

[PEN-L:8398] Re: BalBudget Ad

1997-01-30 Thread Max B. Sawicky
On 30 Jan 97 at 7:23, Robert Cherry wrote: In a previous posting I wrote: 3. If Sweeney is worth anything, why wouldn't he want to have a mass mobilization around Real Full Employment? Is it foolish to think that having a real Labor Day next September when in every city the unions

[PEN-L:8392] Re: BalBudget Ad

1997-01-30 Thread Robert Cherry
In a previous posting I wrote: 3. If Sweeney is worth anything, why wouldn't he want to have a mass mobilization around Real Full Employment? Is it foolish to think that having a real Labor Day next September when in every city the unions have a mobilization with other groups around

[PEN-L:8387] Re: BalBudget Ad

1997-01-29 Thread Robert Cherry
Max: Thanks for the thoughtful and forthright reply. 1. Is it polyanish to believe that a real full employment statement that says it is reasonable to accept some modest inflationary increase if it means jobs and raises for working people could be adopted by the AFL-CIO leadership and

[PEN-L:8379] BalBudget Ad

1997-01-29 Thread Robert Cherry
I am a strong supporter of the EPI and have signed ad. However, I am increasingly disheartened by the lack of focus of the EPI on the issue of full employment. In the election ad, some in the EPI capitulated to the claim that we are so near full employment that there is not much room

[PEN-L:8382] Re: BalBudget Ad

1997-01-29 Thread Max B. Sawicky
On 29 Jan 97 at 10:41, Robert Cherry wrote: I am a strong supporter of the EPI and have signed ad. However, I am increasingly disheartened by the lack of focus of the EPI on the issue of full employment. In the election ad, some in the EPI capitulated to the claim that we are so near

[PEN-L:8391] Re: BalBudget Ad

1997-01-29 Thread Max B. Sawicky
From: Robert Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:8387] Re: BalBudget Ad 1. Is it polyanish to believe that a real full employment statement that says it is reasonable to accept some modest inflationary increase if it means jobs and raises for working people could

[PEN-L:6944] TWU - Newspaper Ad (fwd)

1996-10-27 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:05:19 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Telecommunication Workers Union" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Telecommunications Workers Union [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TWU - Newspaper Ad X-Unsubscribe: Send blank message to [EMAIL

[PEN-L:6736] Re: Retraction of Clinton Ad...

1996-10-17 Thread Doug Henwood
At 5:39 PM 10/16/96, Bill Moore wrote: From another List, earlier today...related to Doug's posting. BtC -- Forwarded message -- There is talk all over the Internet today regarding a Clinton radio ad that aired today which included touting Clinton's signing of DOMA

[PEN-L:6720] Clinton ad

1996-10-16 Thread Doug Henwood
from another list, the transcript of Clinton's infamous radio ad: CLINTON CHRISTIAN RADIO AD :60 SECONDS TRANSCRIBED OCTOBER 14, 1996 Protecting religious freedom. It's the foundation of our nation. When the Justice Department went after a church to gather the parishioners

[PEN-L:6721] Retraction of Clinton Ad...

1996-10-16 Thread Bill Moore
From another List, earlier today...related to Doug's posting. BtC -- Forwarded message -- There is talk all over the Internet today regarding a Clinton radio ad that aired today which included touting Clinton's signing of DOMA as a positive accomplishment (this ad

[PEN-L:6519] Job ad -- Bucknell University

1996-10-08 Thread Teresa Amott
The following ad will appear in the October JOE. If you have questions about the ad, please e-mail me privately. I would also appreciate it if you could forward this job description to colleagues who might be interested. We will be interviewing at the meetings in New Orleans

[PEN-L:2429] Re: Blatant ad, please don't throw hard things

1996-01-18 Thread lbell
The Bell Business Report is seeking candidates for licensing agreements (could be print or electronic) to aid in its resurrection. The concept of this newsletter is to further the understanding of economics for entrepreneurs and any interested layperson. It was published without rest for 5

[PEN-L:991] AS/AD (was: Introductory textbooks)

1995-10-17 Thread Peter.Dorman
I just read David Colander's critique of AS/AD in the latest JEP. It is strongly worded, but the substance of his critique is much weaker than the arguments I and others presented on this list a while back. His proposed reconstruction is, I think, a nonstarter. Peter Dorman

[PEN-L:996] Re: AS/AD (was: Introductory textbooks)

1995-10-17 Thread James Devine
Peter Dorman reminds us of a discussion we had awhile back on pen-l: I just read David Colander's critique of AS/AD in the latest JEP. It is strongly worded, but the substance of his critique is much weaker than the arguments I and others presented on this list a while back. His proposed

[PEN-L:1000] AD/AS correction

1995-10-17 Thread James Devine
inflation, explained by shifts of AS shifts and/or AD shifts, including AS shifts induced by high GDP relative to potential. The AS/AD diagram thus is used for only explaining rises and falls of inflation relative to the core rate. The core rate changes slowly as actual inflation exceeds (or is below

[PEN-L:5217] Re: The PRA stinks! Sign up for ad now

1995-05-26 Thread Doug Henwood
At 1:41 PM 5/25/95, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hate the Congress's welfare "reform" package (a.k.a. the Personal Responsibility Act)? Well, now there's something you can do about it. The Media Campaign for Fairness on Welfare is trying to run a signature (I think) ad in the Sunda

[PEN-L:5212] The PRA stinks! Sign up for ad now

1995-05-25 Thread albelda
Hate the Congress's welfare "reform" package (a.k.a. the Personal Responsibility Act)? Well, now there's something you can do about it. The Media Campaign for Fairness on Welfare is trying to run a signature (I think) ad in the Sunday New York Times early in June urging Clint

AD/AS redux

1994-03-31 Thread Tom . Weisskopf
To respond to Ellen Frank's latest posting (I'm glad someone is still interested in the AD/AS brouhaha!), I would say first that what is needed is a graphical framework in which P-dot is on the vertical axis and not Y but Y/Y* (or U) is on the horizontal axis; the latter approach sets the stage

AD/AS redux

1994-03-31 Thread Tom . Weisskopf
To respond to Ellen Frank's latest posting (I'm glad someone is still interested in the AD/AS brouhaha!), I would say first that what is needed is a graphical framework in which P-dot is on the vertical axis and not Y but Y/Y* (or U) is on the horizontal axis; the latter approach sets the stage

AS-AD without end

1994-03-28 Thread Tom . Weisskopf
tion to change. Obviously such a point cannot be depicted on an AS/AD diagram; but, to repeat an earlier point, that does not ipso facto render an AS/AD diagram useless as a stepping stone to the required P-dot/U Phillips Curve framework. On the substantive question as to wheth

More Insufferable AS-AD

1994-03-28 Thread FAC_BROSSER
Peter, My apologies for my flip "textbook" remark. Indeed most intermediate macro presentations of ISLM are profoundly flawed for reasons probably not worth getting into here. The issue of the "Keynes effect" boils down to the liquidity preference demand for money diagram as it shows

AS-AD without end

1994-03-28 Thread Tom . Weisskopf
tion to change. Obviously such a point cannot be depicted on an AS/AD diagram; but, to repeat an earlier point, that does not ipso facto render an AS/AD diagram useless as a stepping stone to the required P-dot/U Phillips Curve framework. On the substantive question as to wheth

More Insufferable AS-AD

1994-03-28 Thread FAC_BROSSER
Peter, My apologies for my flip "textbook" remark. Indeed most intermediate macro presentations of ISLM are profoundly flawed for reasons probably not worth getting into here. The issue of the "Keynes effect" boils down to the liquidity preference demand for money diagram as it shows

AS-AD without end

1994-03-27 Thread Peter.Dorman
Well, here we go again on AS-AD: The Theory that Would Not Die. I won't reply to Barkley's comments on foreign substitution except to say that I am not impressed by references to textbooks, since I have seen them say dubious things in the past. This is not to say I assume them to be wrong, just

Response to Peter Dorman on AS-AD

1994-03-22 Thread FAC_BROSSER
to make this simple (-minded) AD slope downwards. Has winter ended yet in Lansing? It snowed in Boston for the EEA. Barkley Rosser James Madison University

AS-AD, the US $, etc.

1994-03-21 Thread FAC_BROSSER
To Peter Dorman: The effect of having Korea and Taiwan pegged to the $ was offset by having most of Latin America also pegged to the $. I agree with Tom Weisskopf's last posting (was going to make same point myself) about role of interest rates. Clearly that depends on MS constant and we

AS-AD, the US $, etc.

1994-03-21 Thread FAC_BROSSER
To Peter Dorman: The effect of having Korea and Taiwan pegged to the $ was offset by having most of Latin America also pegged to the $. I agree with Tom Weisskopf's last posting (was going to make same point myself) about role of interest rates. Clearly that depends on MS constant and we

AD: it ain't over 'til it's over

1994-03-19 Thread Tom . Weisskopf
Recent exchanges on the AD curve have helped to clarify issues further, and I am moving ever closer to rejecting the whole apparatus. Yet I am not quite to that point, and -- at the risk of boring most PENners -- I would like to appeal to those who are still interested in this question

AS-AD not quite over

1994-03-17 Thread Peter.Dorman
historical examples to prove or disprove ceteris paribus-type arguments. But the foreign substitution argument for a downward sloping AD curve is essentially logical, not historical. And logically it requires agents to *underrespond* to rising prices. Indeed, if they *overrespond* (as well they might) th

AS-AD again

1994-03-16 Thread Peter.Dorman
Jim, you're forcing me to get technical. (If you can quote pop songs, so can I: "I wan't to get technical, technical...") What I meant was this: XR = f(DM, DX, DDFA, FDDA, RIF-RID, SH, EXP, PDOTF-PDOTD) where DM = demand for imports DX = demand for exports DDFA = domestic demand for foreign

AS-AD again

1994-03-16 Thread Peter.Dorman
Jim, you're forcing me to get technical. (If you can quote pop songs, so can I: "I wan't to get technical, technical...") What I meant was this: XR = f(DM, DX, DDFA, FDDA, RIF-RID, SH, EXP, PDOTF-PDOTD) where DM = demand for imports DX = demand for exports DDFA = domestic demand for foreign

Re: AS-AD again

1994-03-16 Thread Jim Devine
Thanks, Peter. So what you're saying is that the difference between price levels and inflation rates is crucial. The classical adjustment mechanism presumed by comparative-advantage stories does not work to balance trade by adjusting prices. But the aggregate demand effect (P in US rises

AS-AD, yet again

1994-03-16 Thread FAC_BROSSER
level macro generally eschews AS-AD for other more complicated lies, see exhanges on LTV, Sraffian prices, Walrasian hooliganism, game theory games, and Marx on money magic, oops some of those are micro,but the cool New-neo crowd sees all that as "foundational" anyway (yet anothe

Re: AS-AD again

1994-03-16 Thread Peter.Dorman
Jim: right! Barkley: I agree that currency markets are bazooey, but I still think that if domestic prices go up and no other "fundamentals" change, the markets are more likely to be bazooey on the downside than the upside of the original exchange rate. Nothing more than that. Peter Dorman

Re: Xrates, AS-AD, comparative advantage

1994-03-15 Thread Jim Devine
s do occur and there is a reason for the AD curve to slope downward. This also implies that absolute advantage dominates comparative advantage, at least in the short run. I think (2) is accurate, but the point is you can't have "your Kate and Edith too" as a famous Country Western song put it. If you se

Re: Xrates, AS-AD, comparative advantage

1994-03-15 Thread Jim Devine
s do occur and there is a reason for the AD curve to slope downward. This also implies that absolute advantage dominates comparative advantage, at least in the short run. I think (2) is accurate, but the point is you can't have "your Kate and Edith too" as a famous Country Western song put it. If you se

Xrates, AS-AD, comparative advantage

1994-03-14 Thread Peter.Dorman
I guess this is one of those nostalgic periods on PEN-L when old debates come back for a second run. Tom W. wonders how it can be that, in one context, I claim that absolute advantage does not rule because exchange rates need not adjust to balance the current account, and in another I claim that

AD-AS, response to Peter Dorman

1994-03-14 Thread FAC_BROSSER
elf (and I think you as well) have mentioned which is the lack of independence of AD and AS. 3) no comment 4) On international sub. effect, this is the point I made in my JPKE article. On the other hand foreign exchange markets are perhaps the most notoriously unpredictable and irrational of t

Xrates, AS-AD, comparative advantage

1994-03-14 Thread Peter.Dorman
I guess this is one of those nostalgic periods on PEN-L when old debates come back for a second run. Tom W. wonders how it can be that, in one context, I claim that absolute advantage does not rule because exchange rates need not adjust to balance the current account, and in another I claim that

AS and AD

1994-03-13 Thread FAC_BROSSER
1) Yes, there are numerous difficulties with AS and AD, one not mentioned so far is the interdependence of the two, perhaps implicit in Peter Dorman's comments on circular flow models. Colander's new text basically has vertical (classical) AS curves that shift when AD changes, no question

more on the AD curve

1994-03-13 Thread EFRANK
Dear Penners -- Thanks for your responses to my AD query. I'm still a bit confused though. Two questions: Why do we assume that an increase in A PRICE (supply shock like OPEC) implies an increase in the PRICE LEVEL? If the AD curve is drawn on the basis

AD ( AS)

1994-03-11 Thread Peter.Dorman
Alas, just when I thought I might actually get some work done, I have been summoned to make an appearance on PEN-L. I have no idea whether I delivered a knockout blow to the AD curve (or AS--read on), but, instead of referring people to the archive, maybe it will be a public service to repeat my

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