Your removal from the PEN-L list

2004-08-16 Thread L-Soft list server at CSU, Chico ListServe (1.8e)
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RE: [PEN-L] Chávez Loyalists Troll Barrios for Venezuela's Undecided

2004-08-15 Thread Perelman, Michael
Yahoo News says that the turnout is heavy. If so, that is great news. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929

Re: FW: [PEN-L] absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-15 Thread Ted Winslow
Jayson Funke quoted Sweezy: "Marx was a strong adherent of the abstract-deductive method which was such a marked characteristic of the Ricardian school... Marx believed in and practiced what modern theorists have called the method of 'successive approximations,' which consists in moving from the

FW: [PEN-L] absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-15 Thread Funke Jayson J
Paul Sweezy addressed the subject in The Theory of Capitalist Development, chapter one section one "The Use of Abstraction." I will try to summarize some of his points (my comments in brackets): "Marx was a strong adherent of the abstract-deductive method which was such a marked characteristic

pen-l archives on csf shutting down

2004-07-11 Thread Michael Perelman
After many years, the csf archives -- in fact the whole csf system -- is going to disappear. We all owe a debt of gratitude to Don Roper & Michael Yount for keeping it going. http://csf.colorado.edu/pen-l/ Some of you have not subscribed to pen-l directly, but only though the CSF site. You

Re: FW: [PEN-L] THE GAME OF GO AND THE CHINESE WAY OF WAR

2004-07-07 Thread Devine, James
ve learned that if you need to know anything (superficially), all you have to do is to google it.] Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > -Original Message----- > From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fun

FW: [PEN-L] THE GAME OF GO AND THE CHINESE WAY OF WAR

2004-07-07 Thread Funke Jayson J
I've heard that Mao made the military study go and I've also heard that he suppressed the game socially. Can't confirm if either is true. It appears as though it may be destined to be West Point's new past time. Jayson Funke Michael Perelman wrote: Didn't Mao write about Go?

and Robin Cook Re: [PEN-L] Clinton, Kerry and Kosovo

2004-06-24 Thread Chris Burford
: Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: [PEN-L] Clinton, Kerry and Kosovo > Counterpunch, June 24, 2004 > > Clinton, Kerry and Kosovo > The Lie of a "Good War" > By DIANE JOHNSTONE > > For U.S. politicians, if all wars are good, some are better than others. > D

Re: FW: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] Andre Gunder Frank article

2004-06-03 Thread "Chris Doss"
gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:44:12 -0400 Subject: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] Andre Gunder Frank article > In regards to deliberate derailing of the Russian economy. > > I didn't intend to infer that there was deliberate intention to cripple the Russian > econ

FW: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] Andre Gunder Frank article

2004-06-03 Thread Funke Jayson J
sical economists try to fit reality to their economic theories rather than deal with reality. This course of action seems deliberate to me. Jayson Funke -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of "Chris Doss" Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:2

Re: FW: [PEN-L] Andre Gunder Frank article

2004-06-03 Thread "Chris Doss"
t sort, so I am ultraskeptical. -Original Message- From: Funke Jayson J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:15:21 -0400 Subject: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] Andre Gunder Frank article > The best place to look for confirmation of this is the Harvard Institute for >

FW: [PEN-L] Andre Gunder Frank article

2004-06-03 Thread Funke Jayson J
by its own scholars and directors who pilfered funds from the organization for their own personal use. (This from an inside source.) Jayson Funke -Original Message----- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of "Chris Doss" Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:07 AM To: [EMAI

FW: [PEN-L] The crisis in public education

2004-06-01 Thread Funke Jayson J
now if that may be a factor in the material they produce? http://www.goacta.org/flashindex.html Jayson Funke -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Lear Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[PEN-L]

Re: RES: [PEN-L] Two, Three, or Many Oil Wars

2004-05-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
The URL was not found. Renato Pompeu I tried it just now, and it seems it's working. I'm using www.blogger.com's free service for my blog, but it's been giving me a headache -- it's slow, and it sometimes doesn't work (enentation's free commenting service sometimes doesn't work either). Besides, "A

RES: [PEN-L] Two, Three, or Many Oil Wars

2004-05-26 Thread Renato Ribeiro Pompeu
The URL was not found. Renato Pompeu -Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Yoshie Furuhashi Enviada em: quarta-feira, 26 de maio de 2004 22:05 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: [PEN-L] Two, Three, or Many Oil Wars <http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/05/

FW: [PEN-L] The Origins of Continents

2004-05-26 Thread Funke Jayson J
I ran across this definition that sheds some light: A continent (from the Latin "continere" for "to hold together") is a large continuous mass of land in the planet Earth. There is no single standard for what defines a continent, and therefore various cultures and sciences have different lists

FW: [PEN-L] The new Iraqi Flag

2004-05-05 Thread Funke Jayson J
Title: FW: [PEN-L] The new Iraqi Flag I happened to catch Alan Alda’s Scientific American Frontiers on PBS last night with the focus on Future cars from hybrids to electric and fuel cells. While the new technology makes for far more efficient and even less polluting vehicles, what is

FW: [PEN-L] The Empire Falls Back - Niall Ferguson

2004-05-03 Thread Funke Jayson J
Title: FW: [PEN-L] The Empire Falls Back - Niall Ferguson Ken Hanly wrote: Strange that the media never seems to detect any immorality at the sight of the most powerful nation in the world attacking countries such as Afghanistan, Panama, Grenada and Iraq that are completely outmatched. The

Re: FW: [PEN-L] New Business Model

2004-04-23 Thread Carrol Cox
Hasn't IBM for some time been putting multi-page ads in the WSJ proposing that data management be regarded as a fifth utility? I think that started over a year ago. Sun's program as Joanna describes it would seem to be the same sort of thing. Carrol

FW: [PEN-L] New Business Model

2004-04-23 Thread Funke Jayson J
Title: FW: [PEN-L] New Business Model I currently work for a large financial corporation, and most of the new sotware programs we currently use are owned, hosted, serviced, and maintained by the parent company and most interactions occur over the internet. We pay a yearly rental fee. I think

[pen-l] mixed economic signals

2004-04-19 Thread Dickens, Edwin
Title: [pen-l] mixed economic signals Scrap metal and other raw material prices top my list of resource costs that may raise the spectre of inflation.  But much the same argument used to argue for a real estate bubble can be used to argue for commodity price bubbles, no?  If so, then the risk

unsubscribe pen-l

2004-03-25 Thread m . shaw
offline for the next few weeks , will resubscibe later, thx

PEN-L] Government aid for US mortgages

2004-03-13 Thread Robert Manning
It is actually more complicated since the US Federal Reserve directly influences the cost of bank funds that are resold to consumers directly through the Federal Reserve discount rate (currently 1%) .  Also, the regulation (or lack thereof) of the sale of mortgage-backed securities on the secondary

Re: communicating on pen-l

2004-03-05 Thread ravi
Doug Henwood wrote: > dmschanoes wrote: > >>Just to set the record straight: Excuse me, Louis challenged ME directly. > > Speaking from personal experience, I can say it's better for your own > mental health and that of onlookers if you just ignore him. > to the contrary, i have almost always f

Re: communicating on pen-l

2004-03-05 Thread Michael Perelman
Lou, Doug was wrong and so are you here. Find a neutral corner and duke it out. Not on pen-l. On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 12:54:25PM -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: > This is the second provocation from Henwood in a week. Henwood, you make > it sound like I made you crazy or something. I didn&

Re: communicating on pen-l

2004-03-05 Thread Louis Proyect
This is the second provocation from Henwood in a week. Henwood, you make it sound like I made you crazy or something. I didn't make you crazy. And I never abused you. I challenged your Nation Magazine/Living Marxism/postmodernist politics and you didn't like it. Too bad. If you aspire to be America

Re: communicating on pen-l

2004-03-05 Thread Doug Henwood
dmschanoes wrote: Just to set the record straight: Excuse me, Louis challenged ME directly. Speaking from personal experience, I can say it's better for your own mental health and that of onlookers if you just ignore him. Doug

Re: communicating on pen-l

2004-03-05 Thread dmschanoes
t; Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 11:02 AM Subject: [PEN-L] communicating on pen-l > David challenged Lou and Lou responded regarding oil. First of all, please do not > challenge people directly on the list. That way, we can avoid flaming [flaring] and > people don't find the ne

communicating on pen-l

2004-03-05 Thread Michael Perelman
David challenged Lou and Lou responded regarding oil. First of all, please do not challenge people directly on the list. That way, we can avoid flaming [flaring] and people don't find the need to go on and on with interminable challenge and response threads. Also, David made his case already. M

Re: a public plea to pen-l list members

2004-03-01 Thread Michael Perelman
I want to thank James and Ravi. I used to try to enforce Jim's idea, but I have been lax, letting myself become overwhelmed with other stuff. My apologies. On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 08:14:22AM -0800, Devine, James wrote: > In addition, pen-lers should make a major change to the _content_ of their

Re: a public plea to pen-l list members

2004-03-01 Thread Devine, James
In addition, pen-lers should make a major change to the _content_ of their missives when replying to others. Instead of simply replying to Renegade X or Apostate Y in kind, we should write with the _list as a whole_ as our audience, trying to convince the group of the validity of our viewpoints.

a public plea to pen-l list members

2004-03-01 Thread ravi
i delete a large volume of pen-l email, which i would like to read since i respect the opinions of the authors, simply because of the impossible formatting of the text (yes, i do realize i write entirely in lowercase, and if required i will present my case against 'gratuitous capitaliz

talk of US miracle overblown, says pen-l member

2004-02-01 Thread Eubulides
US miracle is based on longer hours for less pay Doug Henwood Monday February 2, 2004 The Guardian In the late 1990s the US was famous across the globe for its New Economy. Computers had unleashed a productivity miracle, recessions were relics of a transcended past, ideas had replaced things as t

Re: sending large articles to pen-l

2004-01-26 Thread Michael Perelman
I wish that I had the technical skills to do either. Certainly, the school will not help me. On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 08:27:18AM -0800, Devine, James wrote: > even better would be to have the list-server fixed so that all files are converted > into text format automatically. > > -

Re: sending large articles to pen-l

2004-01-26 Thread ravi
paul phillips wrote: > > But on the other hand, if you or others just send a url, many of us just > delete the message and never follow it up. I for one never follow up a > url -- it is too time consuming and sometimes proves fruitless. If this > list were to become just a list of urls, I would pr

Re: sending large articles to pen-l

2004-01-26 Thread Devine, James
even better would be to have the list-server fixed so that all files are converted into text format automatically. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > i wish michael would go one step further and ban HTML > formatted email! ;-) > >

Re: sending large articles to pen-l

2004-01-26 Thread ravi
Michael Perelman wrote: > Please try not to send large articles to the list -- like I did yesterday. > It is better just to send the url. > and as previously offered, if you want to post a document of some sort to the list, you are welcome to email it to me, and i will put it up on a web server an

Re: sending large articles to pen-l

2004-01-26 Thread Michael Perelman
yes, that is fine! On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 08:03:58AM -0800, Devine, James wrote: > I thought that it was okay to translate html files into txt files and to post the > latter to pen-l... > > > Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmi

Re: sending large articles to pen-l

2004-01-26 Thread Devine, James
I thought that it was okay to translate html files into txt files and to post the latter to pen-l... Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > -Original Message- > From: paul phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > S

Re: sending large articles to pen-l

2004-01-26 Thread paul phillips
Michael, But on the other hand, if you or others just send a url, many of us just delete the message and never follow it up. I for one never follow up a url -- it is too time consuming and sometimes proves fruitless. If this list were to become just a list of urls, I would probably log off. It i

sending large articles to pen-l

2004-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Please try not to send large articles to the list -- like I did yesterday. It is better just to send the url. Large articles cause several problems. They fill up mailboxes for people with limited space. They take up a lot of space on Hans' server. People outside of the US with expensive dial up c

Re: RES: [PEN-L] Brazil Pays Parents to Help Poor Be Pupils, Not Wage Earners

2004-01-04 Thread Michael Pollak
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Renato Ribeiro Pompeu wrote: > > [One cheer for Lula deparment] > > As a matter of fact, these programs began long before Lula became > president. They were initiated principally by municipal governments. That's why he gets one cheer instead of three. But he is increasing the

RES: [PEN-L] Brazil Pays Parents to Help Poor Be Pupils, Not Wage Earners

2004-01-04 Thread Renato Ribeiro Pompeu
-Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Michael Pollak Enviada em: domingo, 4 de janeiro de 2004 06:28 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: [PEN-L] Brazil Pays Parents to Help Poor Be Pupils, Not Wage Earners [One cheer for Lula deparment] As a matter of fact

Re: pen-l archives

2004-01-03 Thread Mike Ballard
Danke, Hans! Mike B) = Talent develops in tranquility, character in the full current of human life. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832) http://profiles.yahoo.com/swillsqueal __ Do you Yahoo!

pen-l archives

2004-01-02 Thread Michael Perelman
I think that the csf computer might be gone. It was supposed to go last September. Hans Ehrbar is hosting the archives now. We all owe him a great debt of thanks. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.bushgreenwatch.org/ Re: [PEN-L] Bush Greenwatch

2003-12-12 Thread Brian McKenna
Oops! there's the site in the subject line. . . Brian

Fw: [PEN-L] John Kenneth Galbraith

2003-12-09 Thread Michael Dawson
- Original Message - From: "Michael Dawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PEN-L list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] John Kenneth Galbraith > > Galbraith is a treasure. He was also pro

Re: One sentence posts to PEN-L

2003-11-08 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
For all we know, chatting on the Net may be part > of revolutionary socializing, a Net equivalent of hanging out at > cafes and taverns. Is there anything wrong with that ? Aren't revolutionists human beings as well ? Personally I have settled many issues through socialising in cafe's and tavern

Re: [PEN-L] RE: [PEN-L] Gernot Köhler on Mandel/Brenner

2003-11-08 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Jim wrote: "As Doug notes, the question of how the surplus-value is utilized is crucial. Paul Baran also asked this question." Agreed. Mandel discussed this very specifically in a 1967 paper "Primitive accumulation and the industrialisation of the third world" (continuing his analysis from Marxis

Re: [PEN-L] Gernot Köhler on Mandel/Brenner

2003-11-08 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
In a paper he will give this Monday at the International Institute of Social History in Amsterdam, LSE Professor Patrick O'Brien argues: "With the aid of data (rarely cited by Mandel to support his representations) European economic history has been reconfigured as one of gradual and continuous ri

RE: [PEN-L] Gernot Köhler on Mandel/Brenner

2003-11-08 Thread Devine, James
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 11/8/2003 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [PEN-L] Gernot KÃhler on Mandel/Brenner Forwarded from Gernot KÃhler -- Louis Proyect circulated an interesting quota

Re: One sentence posts to PEN-L

2003-11-08 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 10:24 AM -0500 11/8/03, Louis Proyect wrote: The Internet is as revolutionary a medium as the printing press of the Reformation was. Time to get used to that. No revolution happens without rich ensembles of personal social networks, though. For all we know, chatting on the Net may be part of re

Re: One sentence posts to PEN-L

2003-11-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Ken Hanyl wrote: THeres that Preacher again. Were people preaching when they complained about Jurriaan posting too frequently to pen-l? This is an open and democratic forum. People have the right to make comments about the quality and quantity of posts to pen-l, as they would on marxmail or lbo

Re: One sentence posts to PEN-L

2003-11-08 Thread k hanly
THeres that Preacher again. Cheers Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: "Louis Proyect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: One sentence posts to PEN-L > I don't want to single anybody out, but t

Re: One sentence posts to PEN-L

2003-11-07 Thread joanna bujes
ts, not the quantity. -Original Message- From: Louis Proyect [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 11/7/2003 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [PEN-L] One sentence posts to PEN-L I don't want to single anybody out, but there have been a whole s

Re: One sentence posts to PEN-L

2003-11-07 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: it's the quality of sentences that counts, not the quantity. Or, as Lou Reed once said, my day beats your week.

Re: One sentence posts to PEN-L

2003-11-07 Thread Devine, James
it's the quality of sentences that counts, not the quantity. -Original Message- From: Louis Proyect [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 11/7/2003 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [PEN-L] One sentence posts to

One sentence posts to PEN-L

2003-11-07 Thread Louis Proyect
I don't want to single anybody out, but there have been a whole slew of one sentence posts to PEN-L for what seems like weeks now. I understand that most fulltime professors look at listservs as a break from more serious work like writing articles that they can read to each other at a

pen-l,For the serious Investor only

2003-09-17 Thread Wendarwen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]     Gold prices are on the RISE!!! Company of Interest Bishop Resources Inc.  TSX Venture Symbol: BRI   OTC Exchange Symbol: BRPCF BERLIN Exchange:    BQ1   

pen-l,Gold at a altime high

2003-09-16 Thread Haarerwen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]     Gold prices are on the RISE!!! Company of Interest Bishop Resources Inc.  TSX Venture Symbol: BRI   OTC Exchange Symbol: BRPCF BERLIN Exchange:    BQ1   

New voices on PEN-L - brief comment for Sabri

2003-08-31 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Sabri, I think you raise a jolly good question. My experience with these things is that clearly conveying a sense of purpose is important, which has two parts, being clear about the aim of the list, and then conveying that clearly to users, so they know what it is for and what it is not for. Apart

RES: [PEN-L] Getting there (was: Critical support to King George?)

2003-08-28 Thread Renato Pompeu
-Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Ben Pincas Enviada em: quinta-feira, 28 de agosto de 2003 05:51 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Re: [PEN-L] Getting there (was: Critical support to King George?) On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Jurriaan Bendien wrote: > W

RES: [PEN-L] American Splendor - the view from Italy

2003-08-27 Thread Renato Pompeu
-Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Jurriaan Bendien Enviada em: terça-feira, 26 de agosto de 2003 19:44 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Re: [PEN-L] American Splendor - the view from Italy Among the Seattle people - ranging from the "Médécins

Re: RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] God: a socialist view

2003-08-25 Thread Mike Ballard
marxists > were scientific as Marx > intended. > Renato Pompeu > > -Mensagem original- > De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > nome de Jurriaan > Bendien > Enviada em: domingo, 24 de agosto de 2003 23:32 > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Assunto: Re: [PEN-L] R

Re: RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] God: a socialist view

2003-08-25 Thread Devine, James
http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > -Original Message- > From: Renato Pompeu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] God: > a socialist > view > &g

Re: RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] God: a socialist view

2003-08-25 Thread Carrol Cox
Renato Pompeu wrote: > > Atheism, marxism-leninism, trotskyism and most forms of marxism are other > forms of religion. Little marxism and few marxists were scientific as Marx > intended. > Renato Pompeu > There was a discussion Pen-L a year or two ago on what Marx &

RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] God: a socialist view

2003-08-25 Thread Renato Pompeu
Atheism, marxism-leninism, trotskyism and most forms of marxism are other forms of religion. Little marxism and few marxists were scientific as Marx intended. Renato Pompeu -Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Jurriaan Bendien Enviada em: domingo, 24 de

Re: Critical support to King George? (from PEN-L)

2003-08-25 Thread Louis Proyect
I believe the tactic of freeing slaves of the enemy has been around as long as there have been slaves and warfare. It never had anything to do with ideology. Carrol That refers to Lincoln too? Mike B) Historian James McPherson has a book on Antietam that argues that the Emancipation Proclamation w

Re: RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] God: a socialist view

2003-08-24 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
>Socialism must encompass theists and atheists and agnostics, specialists and non-specialists. > Renato Pompeu > Well I agree, but the Marxist-Leninist and Trotskyist interpretation of Marx has a heavy atheist bias, which often means a hatred of all religion, which translates into the repression of

RES: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] God: a socialist view

2003-08-24 Thread Renato Pompeu
Well, if you say that Reason permits a better vision of God than the concept of God, I may agree with you, but a theist might not. Socialism must encompass theists and atheists and agnostics, specialists and non-specialists. Renato Pompeu -Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: RES: [PEN-L] Reductionism

2003-08-24 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
> There are researching projects on biotechnology about immortality. Some of > these projects appear to be serious. > Renato Pompeu Well, personally I am not in principle against that, because that could mean an advancement of human life, which is consistent with my personal vision. Of course, it

Re: RES: [PEN-L] God: a socialist view

2003-08-24 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Hi Renato, > only names are different: God, Allah, Jawveh, Super-Ego, Reason, so that even atheists and agnostics believe in God. It is a psychical instance within us. Yes, this is indeed a similar idea to mine, but, I really prefer to leave the subject to people who specialise in that area and k

RES: [PEN-L] God: a socialist view

2003-08-24 Thread Renato Pompeu
>>-Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Jurriaan Bendien Enviada em: domingo, 24 de agosto de 2003 07:27 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: [PEN-L] God: a socialist view Let me try another little thought experiment. Suppose that my particular view of

RES: [PEN-L] Reductionism

2003-08-24 Thread Renato Pompeu
There are researching projects on biotechnology about immortality. Some of these projects appear to be serious. Renato Pompeu -Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Jurriaan Bendien Enviada em: sábado, 23 de agosto de 2003 20:22 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: RES: [PEN-L] wheat, EU and WA state

2003-08-19 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: "Renato Pompeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] wheat, EU and WA state Why don't you give the URL of this story? Thank you for y

RES: [PEN-L] wheat, EU and WA state

2003-08-19 Thread Renato Pompeu
Why don't you give the URL of this story? Thank you for your attention Renato Pompeu -Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Eubulides Enviada em: terça-feira, 19 de agosto de 2003 00:45 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: [PEN-L] wheat, EU and WA state M

Re: RES: [PEN-L] Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
t.htm or Fausto Benotti's piece recently published on PEN-L. >From the point of view of a Marxist or a socialist, this type of discourse is nonsense. But for his part, the French Marxisant thinks this type of discourse is great, erudite, exciting, new, innovative, unifying, radical and anti-sec

RES: [PEN-L] Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-15 Thread Renato Pompeu
Felix Michel Lowy is a Brazilian that lives in France. I do not know if he has double nationality. Renato Pompeu -Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Jurriaan Bendien Enviada em: sexta-feira, 15 de agosto de 2003 03:37 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Re

RES: [PEN-L] Mad Mel

2003-08-06 Thread Renato Pompeu
-Mensagem original- De: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Yoshie Furuhashi Enviada em: terça-feira, 5 de agosto de 2003 00:25 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Re: [PEN-L] Mad Mel There was in the sixties e very good Polish film called (I am translating literally) "M

exciting research opportunity for pen-l

2003-07-01 Thread Perelman, Michael
Title: Market Mechanisms and Incentives for Environmental Management (MM&I)   URL: http://es.epa.gov/ncer/rfa/current/2003_market_mech.html   Open Date: 06/27/2003  -  Close Date: 10/22/2003   Summary: The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), as part of its Science to Achieve

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan > You might have said CERTAIN males, since their system

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
You might have said CERTAIN males, since their system was hardly egalitarian. On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:19:28PM -0700, Ian Murray wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Besides tariffs, Germany developed the finest educational system in the

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Besides tariffs, Germany developed the finest educational system in the > world. For males. Ian

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Besides tariffs, Germany developed the finest educational system in the world. For example, most of the most famous American economists studied in Germany. The chemical industry was probably leading industry in the late 19th century. German chemical science led the world. Regarding Jim Devine's

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Anthony D'Costa
Yes, the tech gap was much smaller between UK and Germany. Today it is much wider between OECD and the rest. But there are some areas where the gaps are much narrower, even if the economic base (market size, etc) are quite disparate. The IT industry would be a good example of this. But not aero

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Chris Burford
At 2003-06-23 11:05 -0700, Jim Devine wrote: I wanted to add a point: back in the 19th century, Germany and the US were able to successfully use tariffs to promote national economic development. But part of this success was the relatively small technological gap between them and the market hegemo

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan I wanted to add a point: back in the 19th century, Germany and the US were able to successfully use tariffs to promote national economic development. But part of this success was the relatively small technological gap

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
> Chris Burford writes: > >The so-called free trade of the present period is no more than > >international capital giving itself the freedom to price fix unhindered, > >the freedom to exercise its plans without let, the freedom to use one > >group of workers to compete against another on a world sc

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Bill Lear
On Monday, June 23, 2003 at 10:34:16 (-0700) Devine, James writes: >... >that's right. It's important to distinguish "free trade" in theory (the >general lowering of tariffs and quotas on imports and the end of export >subsidies) and what it usually means in practice (free movement of capital >but

FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan Chris Burford writes: >The so-called free trade of the present period is no more than >international capital giving itself the freedom to price fix unhindered, >the freedom to exercise its plans without let, the freedom t

Re: RES: [PEN-L] Complexity

2003-06-19 Thread Barkley Rosser
PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: [PEN-L] RES: [PEN-L] Complexity > >What's your view on Didier Sornette and log-periodic > power laws? Another intellectual bubble developing? > I've got his "Why Stock Markets Crash&

RES: [PEN-L] Complexity

2003-06-19 Thread Renato Pompeu
>What's your view on Didier Sornette and log-periodic power laws? Another intellectual bubble developing? I've got his "Why Stock Markets Crash" and there is some good stuff there, but he appears to be trying to extend his theory into a general principle of stock market movements. HE's also predi

Fw: [PEN-L] Falsifiability and the law of value

2003-06-13 Thread Ian Murray
I asked Jim D. a ? in response to his statements on the LOV. Here's his response, which he ok'd to pass on. - Original Message - From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Ian Murray'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wrote: > > We have to consider what the alternative to the LOV is. If > >

RES: [PEN-L] Skewering stilted language and theory: F. Crews

2003-06-12 Thread Renato Pompeu
I have my own experience with psychosis and psychoanalysis and I do not think psychoanalysis is a science. It is a tool to deal with certain psychical problems, just like medicine is not a science in the sense that physics is a science. The so called social sciences, marxism included, are al

More Re: [PEN-L] The New York Times coverup of ADM

2003-06-10 Thread Eugene Coyle
The judge I referred to is Milton Shadur.  The case got settled in 1996 for $45 million, though it was argued that ADM itself had set aside $50 million for its share alone -- among multiple defendants.  It was argued that the damages were $180 million, which, tripled would be over half a billio

replying to pen-l

2003-04-12 Thread Michael Perelman
Justin just sent me a note regarding Mark Jones. I presume that he meant it for the list and just hit the reply button. Les is trying to help me fix this, but at least for the time being, to send to the list, you must do something like forwarding the message to the list. otherwise, it will just

Re: important pen-l warning

2003-04-12 Thread ravi
>>time to help with this. > sure, send them my way! i can help. > > There is a way, only somewhat awkward, for individual posters to handle > this. Click "Reply All" instead of reply, then delete the individual > address, leaving only the pen-l address. That'

Re: [PEN-L:34988: US already attacking Iraq's defences

2003-02-23 Thread Chris Burford
At 23/02/03 08:57 -0500, Paul Zarembka wrote: The problem with this interpretation is that the Bush administration would then be seen as staying within the boundaries of the U.N. Is this what it wants? I take your point. Richard Perle has just stated baldly on UK tv that the US will go to war wit

Re: Lerner and a split in San Francisco demo Ref # PEN-L:34965

2003-02-22 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, JKS writes, Boredom is not an emotion. I also don't think it even was a word that I used initially; it was yours. I hasn't even originally been talking about what one hears coming from the stage in mass rallies, which is mostly unimportant. I turned down an offer tos peak for

Re: Re: PEN-L equals redistributionist LIBERALS

2003-02-06 Thread Waistline2
At 06/02/03 01:12 +, Alois wrote: >I look at PEN-L and all I see are a bunch of LIBERALS from >universities whose economic schemes all seem to involve big government >coming in to enact their redistributionist schemes.  I see a lot of >talk about economics, including the disc

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