Re: PK on HMOs

> [A pretty good column...] And one more sizeable step in his suprisingly swift evolution away from mainstream economic thinking and towards common sense: > There's a lesson in this experience. Sometimes there's no magic in the > free market - in fact, it can be a hindrance. Health insurance is o

Re: PK and EPI

Yes he did, on trade, when Jeff Faux was still prez. This was before he started driving the right into a frenzy. Since his New York Times militancy, such as it is, he has not mentioned us until today. I have an amicable email relationship with the keeper of his unofficial website, so detente may

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

No, in fact, rental prices in the Bay area are dropping. To get an apt in the building in which I live, you practically had to inherit it. For the last nine months we've had three vacancies, and they're not renting because the prices are too high. Joanna Doug Henwood wrote: Jurriaan Bendien wrote

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

Jurriaan Bendien wrote: Presumably, they would do that only if for example they were sure that they had job security, or if they gained a rise in pay, and so on. And that cuts out a lot of people already, because we know there is a lot of job insecurity. No. It's not a rational thing. Until very

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

Jurriaan Bendien wrote: Same in Holland, same in Australasia, same in many European countries. In the 1990s you had the hot air bubble and now they're breeding. But now you have to explain why people would do that, under what conditions they would borrow against inflated property values. Presumabl

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

Okay Doug, > A major prop to consumption in the U.S. over the last 2-3 years has > been home equity withdrawals - borrowing against the appreciated > value of owner-occupied housing. Since 68% of U.S. households own > their dwellings, your definition of "propertied" would have to be > rather broad

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

something like that. If the housing prices fall a lot, some homeowners will be stuck with negative equity (debts exceeding house value) and will be driven into bankruptcy. This would put big pressure on the banks, while spending falls will encourage the second dip of the Dubya recession, which w

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

Devine, James wrote: it's based on the expected future market value of the house, which is mostly based on its current market value. And you can borrow against your equity! It's a money machine.

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

That's what I suspected...but, just to make sure, doesn't this mean that folks are borrowing against "inflated" values? Now I totally understand that it's only "inflated" if the bubble bursts; but, let's suppose, housing prices drop 20%? And there are additional job losses...say in hi-tech...and pe

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

it's based on the expected future market value of the house, which is mostly based on its current market value. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > -Original Message- > From: joanna bujes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Frida

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

Here's what I'm curious about: I buy a house for 300,000. Within five years, the house is valued at 500,000 (not unusual in the Bay area); now I re-finance. Is my "collateral" based on the portion of the 300,000 I have paid off? Or is it based on the revised market value of the house? Joanna Doug

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

Jurriaan Bendien wrote: This is very a similar story to New Zealand and many other developed capitalist countries. No wonder that we are dealing with jobless growth !! But a socialist would need to ask: who is actually doing the spending ? Which social classes are buying houses and durables ? How

Re: PK on GDP surge - what could a socialist say ?

Okay, so Krugman explains where the spectacular GDP growth mainly came from: - final demand excluding the increase in stocks actually grew faster than GDP. - housing grew at a 20 percent rate - spending on consumer durables rose at a 27 percent rate last quarter. - consumers take advantage of

Re: PK on the lump of labor fallacy

Comrades and friends, The fallacy is in the lumpy pudding which capitalist social relations serve up to us. The size or quality of the pie is not in our power to change. TINA says, "Here's your dessert, now eat it you mangy proles." If the work week were reduced in some way by State sanction (

Re: PK on the lump of labor fallacy

I find the "lump of labor fallacy" discussion to be a bit off the point. The discussion should be restated as simply saying that cutting the legal work-week can distribute more jobs among the entire working class, given the aggregate demand for products. PK seems to be assuming that Say's false

Re: PK on the lump of labor fallacy

The same employers who hailed the downfall of the Socialist Unity Party government in East Germany, where piece wages were a regular practice, also opposed the shorter working week in Western Europe and the USA. In the post-Fordist world within the developed capitalist countries, the majority of j

Re: PK on the lump of labor fallacy

Dear Professor Krugman, The so-called 'lump of labor fallacy' you refer to in your column of October 7, 2003 is a crock (see my "The 'lump-of-labor'case against work-sharing: populist fallacy or marginalist throwback?" in _Working Time: International trends, theory and policy perspectives_, eds. L

Re: PK on the lump of labor fallacy

Go Tom! Tom Walker wrote: Workin' on it. Tom Walker 604 255 4812 Ian wrote: [cue to the Sandwichman] [New York Times] October 7, 2003 Lumps of Labor By PAUL KRUGMAN

Re: PK on Big Blackout

- Original Message - From: "Sabri Oncu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] People "steal" electricity regularly in Turkey (maybe Patrick Bond would offer some information about a similar phenomenon in South Africa) not only because they cannot pay for it but also because it is very difficult to determine wh

Re: PK on Big Blackout

Max: > Don't know much about (anything, actually) > electricity, but . . . > > I doubt the relevance of rivalness/excludability > in this context (putting aside enviro/other > externalities). Seems to me the main things > are natural monopoly, oui or non. Well. I had to take a few courses from t

Re: PK on Big Blackout

Max wrote: So for items 2 and 3, the issue is not fragmentation ("competition") v. monopoly, but public v. private regulated monopoly. True, but can a privately regulated monopoly efficiently and reliably provide a good that sometimes behaves like a public good and sometimes behaves like a private

Re: PK on Big Blackout

Don't know much about (anything, actually) electricity, but . . . I doubt the relevance of rivalness/excludability in this context (putting aside enviro/other externalities). Seems to me the main things are natural monopoly, oui or non. #s 2 and 3 don't lend themselves to overlap-- 2 is land-int

Re: PK on Big Blackout

Paul Krugman wrote: We still don't know what started the chain reaction on Thursday. Whatever the initial cause, however, the current guess is that a local event turned into an epic blackout because the transmission network has been neglected. And the cause of that neglect is faith-based deregula

Re: PK

Prior to Vietnam, none of these incursions caused much of a domestic ruckus. On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 06:46:21AM -0700, Devine, James wrote: > I remember back when the US government regularly did the kind of stuff that > the Bushmasters do these days (invading -- I mean "incursing" -- sovereign > c

Re: PK

Title: RE: [PEN-L] PK I remember back when the US government regularly did the kind of stuff that the Bushmasters do these days (invading -- I mean "incursing" -- sovereign countries with out even a "by your leave" (Cambodia), overthrowing "bad" foreign leaders (Lumumba, Bosch, Arbenz, Allende

Re: Re: Re: PK on communications "deregulation"

In a message dated 12/6/2002 12:02:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nomi could have mentioned that Colin P. was on the board of AOL, wasn't he?? Absolutely. Colin Powell was on the board of AOL. He resigned on January 11, 2000, the same day the FCC issued its approval of th

Re: Re: PK on communications "deregulation"

Nomi could have mentioned that Colin P. was on the board of AOL, wasn't he?? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PK on communications "deregulation"

In a message dated 12/6/02 11:19:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bad metaphors make bad policy. Everyone talks about the "information highway." But in economic terms the telecommunications network resembles not a highway but the railroad industry of the robber-baron era - t

Re: PK on NSR

On Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 08:20:24 (-0800) Devine, James writes: >comments on cap-and-trade? The following exchange is from Robin Hahnel. Bill Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:08:24 -0500 Robin Hahnel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Max B. Sawicky wrote: > > > > If government gives away emissions permits, then

Re: Re: PK against the war

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/02 13:18 PM >>> Jackson was effective in portraying himself as a man of the people even though he was one of the richest people in all of Tennessee. Michael Perelman <<<>>> 'jacksonian democracy'... 'era of the common man... blah, blah, blah... jackson's administra

Re: PK against the war

Krugman compared Jackson to Bush. Jackson took over Florida without any authority to do so when he was fighting the Native Americans. Jackson was a vicious man who loved to fight. He got out of his sick bed several times when given the opportunity to raise troops against the Native Americans.

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

ken hanly wrote: >What Sweden are we talking about? Sweden has been beset by liberal reforms >for more than a decade. According to the Luxemboug Income Study, as of the mid-90s, Sweden had a poverty rate (<50% of median income) of 6.6%, barely changed since 1975; Canada was 12.8%; and the U.S.

RE: Re: RE: PK endorses populism?

Subject: [PEN-L:29707] Re: RE: PK endorses populism? At 08:45 AM 8/20/2002 -0700, Devine, James wrote: >Ben:>>[paraphrasing PK's possible thoughts] "If one follows this line of >thought one might well be led to some extremely radical ideas about >economic policy, id

re:Re: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

-- >From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:56 AM >Subject: [PEN-L:29660] Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism? > > >> Max B. Sawicky wrote: >> >> >Sweden is the liberal mainstream i

Re: RE: PK endorses populism?

At 08:45 AM 8/20/2002 -0700, Devine, James wrote: >Ben:>>[paraphrasing PK's possible thoughts] "If one follows this line of >thought one might well be led to some extremely radical ideas about >economic policy, ideas that are completely at odds with all current >orthodoxies. But I won't try to

Re: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

ugust 20, 2002 8:56 AM Subject: [PEN-L:29660] Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism? > Max B. Sawicky wrote: > > >Sweden is the liberal mainstream ideal because it is > >viewed as a place with relatively little market-distorting > >policy and a reliance on tax and transfer mechan

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

Yes, but it did not remain militant. Many of its leaders were devout Christians, and not particularly sympathetic to Marx. I also think that it did come about in baby steps, even though the strike was very important. Also, I think that it was evolved into a general strike, but I am on shakey gr

RE: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

Title: RE: [PEN-L:29671] RE: Re: PK endorses populism? > Devine, James wrote: > > >response: in my experience (which is more than 20 years old), he's a > >technocratic liberal. I remember from his discussions of New York > >City (the suburbs of which produ

RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

Devine, James wrote: >response: in my experience (which is more than 20 years old), he's a >technocratic liberal. I remember from his discussions of New York >City (the suburbs of which produced him) that he doesn't like >popular participation in politics. That's what I would have guessed, bu

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

>The Brookings book was quite critical of Sweden, proposing a strong dose >of neo-liberalism. Even Richard Freeman was not altogether positive about >Sweden. Social democracy in Sweden was not achieved through piecemeal, legislative baby steps. It came as a result of a general strike in the af

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

The Brookings book was quite critical of Sweden, proposing a strong dose of neo-liberalism. Even Richard Freeman was not altogether positive about Sweden. On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 12:31:11PM -0400, Max B. Sawicky wrote: > Yes. > > There was a Brookings book on Sweden some time ago > that motivat

RE: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

Yes. There was a Brookings book on Sweden some time ago that motivates their outlook. I don't remember what it said about LM mgmt. max Max B. Sawicky wrote: >Sweden is the liberal mainstream ideal because it is >viewed as a place with relatively little market-distorting >policy and a rel

Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

Max B. Sawicky wrote: >Sweden is the liberal mainstream ideal because it is >viewed as a place with relatively little market-distorting >policy and a reliance on tax and transfer mechanisms to >uphold social welfare. But they seriously interefere(d) with the labor market and created one of the

RE: RE: PK endorses populism?

>> My impression (at a long distance) is that PK is happy with the role of as a pundit for the newspaper he's always admired. I would guess that (on a semi-conscious level) he imagines himself as the next Keynes, writing "essays in persuasion" and leading a new policy revolution... << Oh y

Re: RE: PK endorses populism?

Devine, James wrote: >My impression (at a long distance) is that PK is happy with the role >of as a pundit for the newspaper he's always admired. I would guess >that (on a semi-conscious level) he imagines himself as the next >Keynes, writing "essays in persuasion" and leading a new policy >r

RE: PK endorses populism?

Title: RE: PK endorses populism? Ben:>>[paraphrasing PK's possible thoughts] "If one follows this line of thought one might well be led to some extremely radical ideas about economic policy, ideas that are completely at odds with all current orthodoxies.  But I won't try

RE: Re: Re: PK endorses populism?

>"If one follows this line of thought one might well be led to some >extremely radical ideas about economic policy, ideas that are completely at >odds with all current orthodoxies. But I won't try to come to grips with >such ideas in this column. Frankly, I don't have the time. I have to get

Re: Re: PK endorses populism?

At 10:00 AM 8/20/2002 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: >In a Fortune column in 1999, PK said that Sweden in 1980 would have been >his social ideal. That's more than your usual vaguely liberal technocrat >usually says. Where are his politics exactly? > >Doug You've gotta read his 1996 article for Slat

RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

Sweden is the liberal mainstream ideal because it is viewed as a place with relatively little market-distorting policy and a reliance on tax and transfer mechanisms to uphold social welfare. mbs Devine, James wrote: >I doubt that PK is really endorsing Jim Hightower-type populism, but >it's n

RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

Title: RE: [PEN-L:29641] Re: PK endorses populism?   Devine, James wrote: >I doubt that PK is really endorsing Jim Hightower-type populism, but >it's notable that he's breaking with the IMF-type view that populism is >a dirty word. Doug says: In a Fortune column in

Re: PK endorses populism?

Devine, James wrote: >I doubt that PK is really endorsing Jim Hightower-type populism, but >it's notable that he's breaking with the IMF-type view that populism is >a dirty word. In a Fortune column in 1999, PK said that Sweden in 1980 would have been his social ideal. That's more than your usu

RE: Re: RE: Re: PK on current events

Title: RE: [PEN-L:29542] Re: RE: Re: PK on current events Ben writes: >Michael and James - if either of you have Krugman's _Age of Diminished Expectations_ lying around, you might check out pp. 60-61 where he describes the "output gap" of the recession of the early 1980s,

Re: RE: Re: PK on current events

At 07:42 AM 8/17/2002 -0700, Devine, James wrote: >Michael Pollack asks: >How would one go about calculating this output gap from publicly >available figures? > >the basic is to calculate potential real GDP. There are two steps here. >First, add the trend in average labor productivity for the eco

Re: Re: PK on current events

Michael Pollak wrote: >How would one go about calculating this output gap from publicly available >figures? Compare the actual GDP numbers with the CBO's estimate of potential .

RE: Re: PK on current events

Title: RE: [PEN-L:29513] Re: PK on current events Michael Pollack asks: How would one go about calculating this output gap from publicly available figures? the basic is to calculate potential real GDP. There are two steps here. First, add the trend in average labor productivity for the

Re: PK on current events

On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Paul Krugman was quoted as saying Mind the Gap By PAUL KRUGMAN H ow much has Japan's economy shrunk since its bubble burst? It's a trick question; Japan's economy hasn't shrunk. It had only two down years over the past decade, and on average it grew 1 perc

Re: PK on current events

Title: PK on current events My boss has been buying property.  He thinks because there are foreclosures in the nice neighborhoods the bubble has burst and this is a safe place to put his money.  He still has a ton of silver coins he bought in the last PM bull.  But he thought I was silly to b

Re: PK on current events

I was in the local bike shop yesterday. The owner, a fine progressive, was telling me about a conversation he had with some local stock brokers who were all taking their money out of the market and putting it into real estate. On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 08:41:25AM -0700, Devine, James wrote: > The

Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/11/02 03:41PM >Tariffs were an important source of Federal revenue >in the olden days. mbs They still are an important source of govt income in some LDCs. I wonder if this fact escapes most proponents of "free trade" for the periphery. -Frank G <<<>>> no need to wonder,

RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

, June 11, 2002 3:35 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEN-L:26722] RE: Re: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one) I wrote: > >The point is that in the earlier long period of U.S. rule by the > >GOPsters (1861-1932, with short periods of DP rule, under Cle

Re: RE: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

>From: "Max Sawicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [PEN-L:26711] RE: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different >one) >Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:17:43 -0400 > >Tariffs were an importan

RE: Re: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

Title: RE: [PEN-L:26719] Re: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one) I wrote: > >The point is that in the earlier long period of U.S. rule by the > >GOPsters (1861-1932, with short periods of DP rule, under Cleveland > >and Wilson), they regularly raised tariffs

Re: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a differentone)

Devine, James wrote: >"Tariffs were, as Schumpeter put it, 'the household remedy' of the >Republican Party." -- Charles P. Kindleberger, THE WORLD IN >DEPRESSION, 1929-39, University of California Press (1973), p. 133. > >the footnote is to a book by E.E. Schattschneider, POLITICS, >PRESSURES,

Re: Re: RE: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

they no longer feared populist tax revolts. - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: [PEN-L:26713] Re: RE: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one) &

Re: RE: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

Which is why business supported the income tax. On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 01:17:43PM -0400, Max Sawicky wrote: > Tariffs were an important source of Federal revenue > in the olden days. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail

RE: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

Tariffs were an important source of Federal revenue in the olden days. mbs \ "Tariffs were, as Schumpeter put it, 'the household remedy' of the Republican Party." -- Charles P. Kindleberger, THE WORLD IN DEPRESSION, 1929-39, University of California Press (1973), p. 133. the footnote is to a bo

Re: RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

Title: RE: [PEN-L:26704] Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)   - Original Message - From: Devine, James To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: [PEN-L:26705] RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a dif

RE: Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

Title: RE: [PEN-L:26704] Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one) "Tariffs were, as Schumpeter put it, 'the household remedy' of the Republican Party." -- Charles P. Kindleberger, THE WORLD IN DEPRESSION, 1929-39, University of California Press (1973), p. 133.

Re: PK on race to the bottom (a different one)

Where? On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 06:47:00AM -0700, Devine, James wrote: > --- > > Schumpeter remarked that protectionism was the [U.S.] Republican's main > domestic policy tool during the so-called laissez-faire era. So is there a > return to form? > JD -- Michael Perelman Economics Depa

Re: PK on the potential second dip

As the inhouse double-dipper of PEN-L, let me send some supporting evidence for my fellow double-dipper Krugman's this statement: > Foreign purchases of U.S. stocks, foreign > acquisitions of U.S. companies, are way off. Sabri +++ Top Financial News 05/29 15:23 Dollar Reaches

RE: PK

Michael Pollak: >Although of course I think there's no doubt PK's column is better. Frankly, at the moment, I think it's the best bi-weekly editorial column in the country. Which is kind of remarkable, considering how bad it was for his first nine months. The guy seems to have approached column

Re: PK on accounting reform

On Tue, 21 May 2002, Fred B. Moseley wrote: > > a media evaluation web page voted PK's column the most consistently > > partisan of op-ed regulars. > > More partisan that pro-Israeli fire-eater and let's-go-get-Saddam > William Safire? Hey, fair's fair -- Safire's a flaming asshole on those iss

Re: RE: Re: PK on accounting reform

"Devine, James" wrote: > > > -- > alas, "partisan" seems to mean "anti-GOP" or "anti-Dem." > JD That's what "political" means legally too I believe. That is why "our" type of political organization can often get tax-exempt status. Opposing the United States is non-partisan, while opposing (or

Re: PK on accounting reform

On Tue, 21 May 2002, Devine, James wrote: > By the way, a media evaluation web-page voted PK's column the most > consistently partisan of op-ed regulars. As I told PK, "not that there's > anything wrong with it." More partisan that pro-Israeli fire-eater and let's-go-get-Saddam William Safir

Re: PK on CA EE

      "Devine, James" wrote:    Pen-l experts on energy issues -- Gene Coyle? -- is Krugman's description of    California's energy emergency mostly correct? all correct? all wrong? mostly    wrong? none of the above?           Jim,     The Krugman piece is, I reluctantly would sa

Re: PK Dick

> > I'd heard that Philip K. was schizophrenic. Maybe he was self-medicating... > > I still admire Dick's MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE, which is about what would > have happened if Hitler had won WW2. In one scene, it's heard that Hitler > is dying and Americans in the unoccupied zone are wondering and

Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16 (fwd)

actually, true. Bates changed his position in his later works, but I don't know if dramatically though, to say that rational choice was already implicit in his early works, so the outcome is not suprising. I have to dig into pol.eco notes for this.. in any case, i agree on the basics.. Mine

Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

>Brad, you are not missing anything! I was making a critical comment on >Bates' approach to development. I am assuming we are talking about the same >Bates here (Robert). Regarding his _Markets and States_, I don't completely >disagree with the fact that state-led development had biases towards sm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

Jim wrote: > > No, since the rational calculating machines only take into account the > costs and benefits to themselves. It's very common in economics to point to > the difference between individual rationality and efficiency from a more > social perspective. It's true that economists generally

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

I wrote: > > Economists list three ways of dealing with "the economic problem" > > (scarcity), which would include problems such as the way in which the > > commercialization of agriculture drives the landless peasants to seek ways > > to survive that involve deforestation and farming on steep hil

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

Jim wrote: > Economists list three ways of dealing with "the economic problem" > (scarcity), which would include problems such as the way in which the > commercialization of agriculture drives the landless peasants to seek ways > to survive that involve deforestation and farming on steep hills, >

Re: PK on A16

* Subject: Mozambique cashew challenge to IMF From: Joe Hanlon ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Date: Sun 10 Oct 1999 - 23:24:45 BST MOZAMBIQUE CHALLENGES WORLD BANK, IMF WITH DECISION TO PROTECT CASHEW NUT INDUSTRY WILL BANK AND FUND BLOCK MOZAMBIQUE'S ADDITIONAL DEBT RELIEF? By Joseph Hanlon, Maput

Re: PK on A16

>BTW, is there anyone on this list who has more knowledge on >Mozambique's cashews? * Africa Faith and Justice Network (AFJN), 401 Michigan Ave. NE, P.O. Box 29378 Washington, D.C. 20017 Tel. 202 832 3412; Fax. 202 832 9051; Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Web: http://www.acad.cua.edu/afjn Can

Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16 (fwd)

I had written: >Part of the ecological and human crisis is people's free-market responses to poverty. < Mine Doyran writes: >Are we left with no solutions _but_ free market responses to poverty and >ecological crisis? If not, which is what I get from your post, what can be >the alternative so

Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

Brad, you are not missing anything! I was making a critical comment on Bates' approach to development. I am assuming we are talking about the same Bates here (Robert). Regarding his _Markets and States_, I don't completely disagree with the fact that state-led development had biases towards small

Re: Re: PK on A16

>Brad DeLong wrote: > >>A strong bias against relatively small-scale rural producers has been >>one of the worst things about African state-led development over the >>past generation (see Robert Bates's _Markets and States in Tropical >>Africa_, or Dumont's _False Start in Africa_). And it does lo

Re: PK on A16

Brad DeLong wrote: >A strong bias against relatively small-scale rural producers has been >one of the worst things about African state-led development over the >past generation (see Robert Bates's _Markets and States in Tropical >Africa_, or Dumont's _False Start in Africa_). And it does look lik

Re: Re: Re: PK on A16 (fwd)

Are we left with no solutions _but_ free market responses to poverty and ecological crisis? If not, which is what I get from your post, what can be the alternative solutions accessible? Mine Doyran SUNY/Albany >Part of the ecological and human crisis is people's free-market responses >to pov

Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

Louis writes: >The real story in Mozambique today is not about cashew nuts, it is about >flooding. As in the case of Venezuela, Honduras and other victims of >"natural" disasters, the cause of widespread suffering and death is very >likely rooted in violent weather patterns spawned by global wa

Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

Louis Proyect wrote: >the cause of widespread suffering and death is very >likely rooted in violent weather patterns spawned by global warming ...not to mention clear-cutting of forests and other reckless land-management practices. Doug

Re: Re: PK on A16

>I think Paul's gotcha. > >A strong bias against relatively small-scale rural producers has been >one of the worst things about African state-led development over the >past generation (see Robert Bates's _Markets and States in Tropical >Africa_, or Dumont's _False Start in Africa_). And it does

Re: Re: PK on A16

>I think Paul's gotcha. He doesn't "have me," since (as I said) I wasn't endorsing or condemning the Mozambican export tax on cashews (since unlike PK I didn't claim to know the details of the case). And I notice that you provide us with no specific information about either Mozambique or cas

Re: PK on A16

>In the NY TIMES, April 19, Paul Krugman writes: >When Seattle Man >[sic] went to Washington, his activities were coordinated in large >part by a Web site, www.a16.org. Browsing the site, I was struck by >the critique of the World Bank, written by Robert Naiman -- the >activist who threw a pie