Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Jim Devine
At 04:36 PM 6/28/00 +0100, you wrote: >Jim, you are such a disappointment to me. "wheelchair-friendly busses"? >Gimme a break. There won't be these kinds of kindly options. hey, we've got them in Culver City, where I live. The engine is on top of the bus, so that the passenger compartment is mu

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Rod Hay
Ken In addition, it might be useful to ban auto traffic in high density areas. It would be difficult, but worth a debate in our major cities. My local paper this morning predicts 60 to 70 extra deaths this summer (in a city of about half a million) due to air pollution. Properly handled this shoul

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Ken Hanly
I don't understand. Is the YES meant to imply that electricity production depends ultimately upon fossil fuels? Surely very little electricity is produced by burning diesel or gas. Or are you talking about cars that burn fuel and charge batteries that run them? There are also cars and trucks that

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >I find your e-missives to be useless. Therefore, I've instructed the >Eudora program to automatically transfer them to the trash bin. I >recommend that others do so, too. Hmm, not very promising for "ORGANISING"! It's kind of hard to organize people around catastrophe. With

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-29 Thread Brad De Long
>I don't understand. Is the YES meant to imply that electricity production >depends ultimately upon fossil fuels? Unless you live in the Pacific Northwest or France, the bulk of your electricity comes from power plants that burn fossil fuels...

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Ken Hanly
Good point. Seems to me that Ottawa has such an area, and doesn't Vancouver. I don't know about US cities. We don't suffer too much from pollution or development in this area, although sometimes when I pass farmers who are spraying I pray that my lungs are Roundup Ready.I guess the next step will

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Mark Jones
wood > Sent: 28 June 2000 19:58 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L:20871] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness > > > Jim Devine wrote: > > >I find your e-missives to be useless. Therefore, I've instructed the > >Eudora program to automatically transfer them to the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: >>I find your e-missives to be useless. Therefore, I've instructed the >>Eudora program to automatically transfer them to the trash bin. I >>recommend that others do so, too. Doug writes: >Hmm, not very promising for "ORGANISING"! > >It's kind of hard to organize people around catastro

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Louis Proyect
Actually, the 'cadre' of the Seattle demonstrators were organized in response to what they see as a looming catastrophe. Mark, John Foster and I are trying to develop a theoretical alternative to the kind of deep ecology beliefs that moved them into action. It boils down to Marxism versus Zerzan's

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Max Sawicky
. . . Good luck organizing, Mark. Doug Don't sell him short. I think Mark has united PEN-L. mbs

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-29 Thread Ken Hanly
I live in Manitoba. THe bulk of my electricity comes from hydro. There are two supplementary coal-fired plants that usually do not operate. Quebec electricity comes almost entirely from hydro, although some of it is imported from Labrador at cheap prices and then exported to New England states at

RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-28 Thread Mark Jones
RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness > > > . . . Good luck organizing, Mark. > Doug > > > Don't sell him short. I think Mark has united PEN-L. > > mbs > >

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-30 Thread Mark Jones
nly > Sent: 30 June 2000 07:43 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L:21009] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness > > > I live in Manitoba. THe bulk of my electricity comes from hydro. > There are two > supplementary coal-fired plants that usually do not operate. Q

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: My looniness

2000-06-30 Thread Ken Hanly
gt; > Mark Jones > http://www.egroups.com/group/CrashList > > > -----Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Hanly > > Sent: 30 June 2000 07:43 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [PEN-L:21009] Re: R