Re: docu patch File::Find

2005-03-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:25:47AM +0100, Andreas J Koenig wrote: > The [EMAIL PROTECTED] manpages of File::Find and MakeMaker render ugly. > Patch appended. Though it does render incorrectly, the existing POD does not appear to be incorrect. Perhaps its a bug in Pod::Parser which should be addr

Re: [perl #34288] perlop: qx/STRING/: mention STDIN

2005-03-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 05:13:48PM -0800, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > I disagree. qx// creates processes and talks tons about what you > can do to redirect their stdout and stderr. It should mention that > the process inherits perl's stdin unless it's redirected. It may be wise to eliminate

Re: [perl #34288] perlop: qx/STRING/: mention STDIN

2005-03-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 02:11:21AM +0200, Yuval Kogman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 06:18:54 +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > instead of > > $output=qx/echo $input|command/ > > i.e., how to input small things to qx without disrupting other parts > > of the program or relying on /bin/sh constructi

Re: DynaLoader

2005-02-24 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 03:46:24PM -0500, Gary Dill wrote: > How can I get a copy of DynaLoader? DynaLoader comes with Perl. It doesn't work very well without it. You can locate the installed .pm file with "perldoc -l DynaLoader" though there are more pieces. If you wish to get the source it on

Re: [perl #34204] alternative of reloc_perl in CPAN Perl

2005-02-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 10:31:14PM +0530, Piyush Shourie wrote: > The link refers to the basic usage of reloc_perl. However when we use > reloc_perl with "-a" switch, Perl can be relocated to destination path > greater than source path, which does not function properly with CPAN > Perl 5.8.4 on HPU

Re: [perl #34204] alternative of reloc_perl in CPAN Perl

2005-02-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 09:47:47AM -, Piyush Shourie wrote: > Since there are enormous users of CPAN Perl as well, I believe there > must be some mechanism available in CPAN Perl to relocate the Perl to a > new location. Please enlighten me about the same. Nope. Nothing else is currently ava

Re: CPAN cruft cleanup?

2005-02-21 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 05:56:24PM -0800, Linda W wrote: > John Peacock wrote: > > Um, no, I believe she was talking about her CPAN directory on her _own_ > > machine (the history of every CPAN module she has ever installed). > --- > Yepexample: > /share/CPAN> ls -L > modules/by-category

Re: CPAN cruft cleanup?

2005-02-21 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 02:37:34PM -0500, John Peacock wrote: > Um, no, I believe she was talking about her CPAN directory on her _own_ > machine (the history of every CPAN module she has ever installed). > > No, Linda, there isn't any default feature in CPAN that cleans out this > directory (th

Re: Patch Win32 makefiles for blead to allow parameters to be passed to harness:

2005-02-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 07:19:49PM +0100, demerphq wrote: > Yeah, that sounds good, althought maybe the following would be even > better as it would maintain MakeMaker compat and allow the args to be > set independently. > > test : test-prep > cd ..\t > $(PERLEXE) -I..\lib harness $(TE

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_08

2005-02-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 04:59:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Enclosed is a patch taken against MM 6.25_08 that allows > MakeMaker's own "mmk test" suite to pass 100% and to allow me to > build Bit::Vector 6.3 on VMS: Thanks, patched.

Re: Patch Win32 makefiles for blead to allow parameters to be passed to harness:

2005-02-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 11:00:08AM +0100, demerphq wrote: > This allows you to do things like: > > nmake test TEST="op/pat.t" > > And similar. If TEST isnt defined harness runs them all as normal. TEST is too generic. MakeMaker uses TEST_FILES. It wouldn't hurt to remain consistent with that

Re: Pod::Usage insufficiently paranoid about calling "perldoc".

2005-02-18 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 01:18:48PM -0500, Andy Dougherty wrote: > In either case, Pod::Usage probably ought to either check the return > code from system() or check that $progpath actually exists before blindly > calling it. It shouldn't be calling perldoc at all but rather use Pod::Perldoc->run w

Re: [perl #34153] Perl5.8.4 does not contain reloc_perl

2005-02-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 11:30:31AM -, Piyush Shourie wrote: > I have built Perl 5.8.4 on HPUX from the source code available on CPAN. > However the Perl does not contain reloc_perl utility, which is a very > useful feature. Kindly let me know if any patch needs to be applied to > rectify the sa

Fwd: [alfiejohn@acm.org: RE: Symbol::delete_package() bug]

2005-02-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
- Forwarded message from Alfie John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: "Alfie John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:46:05 +1100 To: "'Michael G Schwern'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Symbol::delete_package() bug X-Mailer: Micros

[ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_08

2005-02-08 Thread Michael G Schwern
Its time for another MakeMaker alpha! This one is mostly VMS fixes though I also discovered a conflict with Module::Install and undid an accidental change that broken Archive::Zip. As far as I know all outstanding issues are resolved, so this is release candidate... oh let's call it 4. http://ww

Re: [PATCH] assorted tempfile clean-up in the test suite

2005-02-07 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 02:23:17PM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: > --- lib/Test/Simple/t/reset.t;-0 Sat Nov 20 16:45:28 2004 > +++ lib/Test/Simple/t/reset.t Sat Jan 22 09:46:36 2005 Applied to the CPAN version.

Re: [perl #34066] Test::More::eq_* (Yes, just "Test::More::eq_*, but having the title "Test::More::eq_* isn't something perlbug accepts)

2005-02-05 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 11:49:27PM -, abigail @ abigail. nl wrote: > #!/usr/bin/perl > > use strict; > use warnings; > no warnings qw /syntax/; > > use Test::More tests => 3; > > eq_array ([0], [0]); > eq_hash ({0 => 0}, {0 => 0}); > eq_set ([0], [0]); > >

Re: References to anonymous arrays

2005-02-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 09:50:51AM +0100, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > > Is that the way it should be ? > > Yes, it's documented in perlref : > > Taking a reference to an enumerated list is not the same > as using square brackets--instead it's the same as creating > a list of referen

Re: [olivier.delaporte@idt.com: GDBM_File perl module]

2005-02-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 05:05:19AM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: > He should be able to just download the perl source, cd into ext/GDBM_File > and just install the module like any other. Its a perfectly normal > module distribution with a perfectly normal Makefile.PL. Ok, that doe

Re: [olivier.delaporte@idt.com: GDBM_File perl module]

2005-02-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 09:40:10AM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: > I can't think of a good answer to this. > (Basicly because I'm stuck in a loop of "but you should already have it") Does GDBM_File get installed if libgdbm isn't? Doesn't appear to. > I was doing a search of the GDBM module in cp

Re: OSCON Proposals

2005-02-02 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 08:23:56AM +0100, Richard Foley wrote: > Yeah - and he didn't even say for which year: 2005, 2006, 200...? I'm still writing 19100 on all my checks.

Re: OSCON Proposals

2005-02-02 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 08:19:10PM -0800, Robert Spier wrote: > Only two weeks left till OSCON proposals are due, and Perl is > currently trailing Java and PHP by a lot. Two weeks? Its Feburary! This is like when stores put up Christmas decorations in October.

Re: [perl #33928] chomp() fails after alarm(), `sleep`

2005-01-26 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 11:46:28AM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: > Specifically here, I wonder how to safely write a portable regression test. > Maybe it's safe already as the output of the backticks is ignored, so if there > is no sleep command to run it would still pass. Replace 'sleep 2' with 'p

Re: [OT] *@perl.com blacklisted by RBL

2005-01-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:49:53PM +0900, Dan Kogai wrote: > The RBL that blacklisted @perl.com (or *.develooper.com to be more > precise) was blackholes.five-ten-sg.com. In my experience that particular RBL is very poor. In fact I think they've blackholed develooper before which is why I pulled

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2005-01-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
MYEXTLIB}) { - push(@m,"\t",'Library/Object/Replace $(MMS$TARGET) $(OBJECT)',"\n"); -} else { - push(@m,"\t",'Library/Object/Replace $(MMS$TARGET) $(MMS$SOURCE_LIST)',"\ n"); -} + push(@m,"\t",'Library

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2005-01-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
) $(MYEXTLIB) > '; > # If this extension has its own library (eg SDBM_File) > # then copy that to $(INST_STATIC) and add $(OBJECT) into it. Why would removing it as a dependency matter? -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ You c

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2005-01-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 12:41:38PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Which looks like a problem with DBI code not MakeMaker. Did DBI work with 6.17? -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ There is a disurbing lack of PASTE ENEMA on the internet.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_07

2005-01-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
quot;go into that directory and run 'make test' if there is a Makefile". I wonder if its counting the tabs between each PASTHRU key/value pair as one character or eight. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Keep your stick on the ice. -- Red Green

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_07

2005-01-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
re just directory specs like [.foo.bar] rather than > file specs like [.foo]bar.dir. I thought we had gone back to using > .exists files rather than directories, so I'm not sure what to > suggest here. I just changed the dependencies back to .exists files everywhere. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Funny thing about weekends when you're unemployed--they don't mean quite so much. 'Cept you get to hang out with your workin' friends. - Primus "Spaghetti Western"

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_07

2005-01-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
herwise it requires either a support contract with right ot upgrade, > or purchasing a single right to upgrade license + media. > > Contact your HP sales person for more details. I was wondering if I could just tell MMS users "upgrade already!" but not if they have to purchase it.

Re: XSLoader for older perls

2005-01-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 04:46:38PM +, Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: > Also the DynaLoader thing puts itself in ISA which means your > class inherits a bunch of things from DynaLoader you may not want. Just a reminder. The XSLoader CPAN module still has no maintainer. -- Michael G S

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2005-01-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
ly that, someone was doing some xsubpp hacking in the core and wanted things to neatly rebuild on each edit. I don't see the harm in it and it makes some sense for core development. > -XSUBPPDEPS = @tmdeps \$(XSUBPP) > +XSUBPPDEPS = @tmdeps Was it really necessary to remove it depe

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_07

2005-01-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
guys charge for upgrades or something? -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ The beatings will continue until your style improves.

Re: Maintaining a pool of Perl interpreters

2005-01-02 Thread Michael G Schwern
it seems > to maintain a single interpreter per Apache process. If anyone has any > advice or a pointer to examples, it will be greatly appreciated. Look at PPerl. http://search.cpan.org/dist/PPerl/ -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ The plot seems

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2005-01-01 Thread Michael G Schwern
mbling change from the cfperl branch years ago. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Kids - don't try this at--oh, hell, go ahead, give it a whirl... === MM_Unix.pm == --- MM_Unix

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_07

2005-01-01 Thread Michael G Schwern
I do not know > yet what is causing the trouble. Probably the directory target issue on older MMS' that Craig pointed out. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Yes, well, that's the sort of blinkered, philistine pig ignorance I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_07

2005-01-01 Thread Michael G Schwern
) $(CHMOD) 755 $(INST_LIBDIR) $(NOECHO) $(TOUCH) $(INST_LIBDIR).exists I did it this way so that one could depend on a directory target, rather than having to know about the .exists magic, and it would basically do the right thing. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ "May you eat three balanced meals a day and have healthful, regular bowel movements." -- Gimlet, son of Groin, "Bored of the Rings"

Re: [perl #33607] Problems in Perl 5.6.1

2004-12-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
to the latest stable version 5.8.6. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Pancakes is the better part of valor. http://www.goats.com/archive/971202.html

Re: [perl #33608] Problems in Perl 5.6.1 (Can"t locate object method "ToUpper" via package "main" (perhaps you forgot to load "main"?) )

2004-12-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
gt; > This, however, does not appear to be a bug in Perl. I dunno, this smells like a 5.6.1 Unicode issue. It could be an internal bug in uc() in a Unicode locale. Sravanth, if you are in a Unicode locale, and I suspect you are, I would suggest not bothering with 5.6.1 and jumping straight to t

[ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_07

2004-12-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
.PL was being considered like Module_pm.PL. Build.PL is now ignored. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [rt.cpan.org 8809] - Devel::Cover cover_db/ directory now ignored by MANIFEST.SKIP -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ I know you get this a lot, but what's an unholy fairy like you doing in a mosque like this?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
tmodsh.new', '[.blib.script]instmodsh'); rename() returns 1 however the file is not renamed. It appears rename() will not work unless there's a dot in the filename. So I hacked up a rename() wrapper that appends a dot onto a filename if it doesn't have one. I've also

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
t whether the success or failure of a > command will be taken into account apparently happens before macro > substitution in both MMK and MMS. This has been fixed. I've moved back to a literal - and am using "-$(NOECHO) command" which seems to make everybody happy. -- Michae

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
.00 cusr + 0.00 csys = 0.00 > CPU) > > which was done with perl 5.8.5 running on VMS V7.3-2, Compaq C S6.5-002, > and MMK V3.9-6. > > I might even get to my big module collection test with this Wait for the next alpha. I have to fix that IGNORE problem first. -- Michael G

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
; > >I'll investigate this. The only instances I see of bin/instmodsh is in the doc_*_install targets. Turns out its necessary. EXE_FILES is already put into perllocal on the previous line. *gleefully deleting more code* Try out the attached patch. -- Michael G Schwern [EM

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
ution in both MMK and MMS. Ok, I think I can make it work without a macro. BSD make didn't like what I was doing before but that's because I was putting in too much space. ie. "- @ command". -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ One d

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
nk.BLIB.SCRIPT] > > .exists;1 instmodsh.;1 > > Total of 2 files. > $ perl "-I[.lib]" "-MExtUtils::MY" -e "MY->fixin(shift)" > [.blib.script]instmodsh > $ dir [.blib.script] > > Directory D0:[CRAIG.trunk.BLIB.SCRIPT] > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
, for some reason, install unzip or tar they can always go to a sensible machine, unpack a tgz distribution and shar it themselves. That said, I don't plan on removing shdist unless it starts causing trouble. I may, however, deprecate it and/or remove it from the documentation. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ If you can't remember, the Claymore is pointed at you.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
ot; bsdmake broke. What I have now seems to work for everybody so I'm inclined to leave it. Are you seeing problems? -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ OH GOD!! It's LINUX! All you Linux fanboys go wild! It never crashes! It'

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
ce. I'd throw shdist out if I didn't think it would be more trouble than its worth. I hope nobody's using it. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ It's Highball time!

Re: perlpodtut II

2004-12-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
the section names be 100% accurate. I don't think anyone's going to be confused to find a copyright statement under a LICENSE heading or vice versa. Most copyright statements contain the word "copyright" so there's not much of a searching issue. I'm also w

Re: perlpodtut II

2004-12-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
ouldn't be changed at this point, its a simple convention so we can pull an abstract out of POD. The line length should be 76 (ie. 80 minus a little bit to take into account any indentation applied by formatters). It looks horrid when it wraps. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: perlpodtut II

2004-12-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
odule authors. Large scale POD formatting issues like this are quite beyond its scope. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Don't be a lover, girl, I'd like to shamelessly hump your inner child.

Re: perlpodtut II

2004-12-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 01:11:57AM -0500, David Manura wrote: > What about mentioning pod2html? Because its a buggy throwback with a disasterous interface? If you're going to mention a POD-to-HTML converter please mention something else. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PATCH] File::Find dies on find({follow=>1, ...}) on Win32

2004-12-27 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 10:46:27AM -, Orton, Yves wrote: > In light of all of the comments in this thread shouldnt File::Find be made a > dual life module and be put on CPAN independently? Good idea. I volunteer YOU. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pob

[ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_06

2004-12-26 Thread Michael G Schwern
This caused problems on large distributions like bioperl. Thanks to Tim Bunce for suggesting the obvious fix. 6.25 Wed Dec 15 06:59:46 EST 2004 - Build.PL was being considered like Module_pm.PL. Build.PL is now ignored. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [rt.cpan.org 8809] - Devel

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
, and a common example and then punt to perlpod. It was the unnecessary completeness that bothered me. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ You see, in this world there's two kinds of people. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. Dig. -- Blondie, "The Good, The Bad And The Ugly"

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
l has one AUTHORS section using an email address and one using a URL. Pick the one most like what the reader should do (ie. someone who's not a part of p5p) and stick with it. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ IMHO bugs in Perl 5 shouldn't carry over to Perl 6. (Unless, of course, we *like* the bugs... ;) -- Ken Fox in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
te what most people expect. However, I do think providing the greek derivation of SYNOPSIS is not terribly useful to explain what its used for. This is a concise tutorial and that sort of thing just doesn't seem very utilitarian. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Abandon failing tactics.

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
ect current practise. But I don't think the ordering of those last few sections is terribly important. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ You're smoother than a tunnel of shining sorrow.

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
=head1 LICENSE > > > This is released under the Artistic License. See L. > > Since people like to cut & paste, this should probably be the standard > > "same as Perl" wording plus a copyright notice. > > IANAL, but I don't think the "same as Pe

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Michael G Schwern
as Perl" wording plus a copyright notice. > > This should be =head1 COPYRIGHT AND LICENSE to fit what's done elsewhere, > and it comes after AUTHOR so that it's the last thing in the man page > except for HISTORY if any. See the pod2man man page for the section > ordering.

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Michael G Schwern
tly switched from =item B to =head3 new because I keep forgetting the B<> and having to futz with =over and =back. This style might be simpler for newbies for their method documentation. > =head1 LICENSE > > This is released under the Artistic License. See L. Since people like to cut & paste, this should probably be the standard "same as Perl" wording plus a copyright notice. > =head1 AUTHOR > > Juerd - L<http://juerd.nl/> email address? -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ There's a Balrog in the woodpile.

Re: META.yml: generation

2004-12-23 Thread Michael G Schwern
I would like to point out only.pm > Michael> http://search.cpan.org/dist/only/ > > That doesn't fix the fact that I can have only one file > installed at $lib/Apache/Resource.pm. "only::install Install multiple versions of modules" Isn't this exactly w

Re: META.yml: generation

2004-12-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
Module-Install/ -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Home of da bomb

[ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_05

2004-12-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
uggesting the obvious fix. 6.25 Wed Dec 15 06:59:46 EST 2004 - Build.PL was being considered like Module_pm.PL. Build.PL is now ignored. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [rt.cpan.org 8809] - Devel::Cover cover_db/ directory now ignored by MANIFEST.SKIP -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [perl #33128] Here-document length bug

2004-12-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
; on line > 12. To amplify this, Switch.pm is a source filter. It reads in your source code, alters it and recompiles. Since Perl parsing is not a perfect art it sometimes gets things wrong. -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Great minds think.

[ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_03

2004-12-20 Thread Michael G Schwern
15 06:59:46 EST 2004 - Build.PL was being considered like Module_pm.PL. Build.PL is now ignored. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [rt.cpan.org 8809] - Devel::Cover cover_db/ directory now ignored by MANIFEST.SKIP -- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Do

Re: Perl Repository Browser suggestions (was Re: add 'since' availability tags to perlapi.pod?)

2004-12-20 Thread Michael G Schwern
of the above you mean, so... "svn diff -rX:Y file" appears to be "p4 diff2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" "svn diff -rX dir" looks like it could be emulated with "find dir -type f | xargs perl -wle 'system "p4 diff [EMAIL PROTECTED]" forea

Perl Repository Browser suggestions (was Re: add 'since' availability tags to perlapi.pod?)

2004-12-20 Thread Michael G Schwern
changes" worked for directories, too, that would be nice. I don't know if Perforce does that easily or not. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ If you haven't got the skill to do something important, leave it alone. If something is urgent o

Re: add 'since' availability tags to perlapi.pod?

2004-12-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
/dev.perl.org/perl5/?) You'd have to ask perl.org and see if clkao wants that widely advertised. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ We have cornered the market on senselessness and have profited.

Re: http://dev.perl.org/perl5/ says 5.8.5 released

2004-12-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 02:03:36PM -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: > http://dev.perl.org/perl5/: Perl 5.8.5 Released! > > shouldn't it be updated to say 5.8.6? p5p doesn't run perl.org. Send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the future. http://www.perl.org/siteinfo.html -- Michael G Sc

Re: [PATCH] File::Find dies on find({follow=>1, ...}) on Win32

2004-12-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
to "fix" the C< lstat $foo; -l _ > on Windows case by adding another error. I understand now. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Yes, well, that's the sort of blinkered, philistine pig ignorance I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage.

Re: [PATCH] File::Find dies on find({follow=>1, ...}) on Win32

2004-12-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
rtability trap? -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Thanks, applied. Or, [EMAIL PROTECTED] as we Bulgarian EBCDIC users like to say. -- Jarkko Hietaniemi in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: ExtUtils:: modules for sale.

2004-12-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 02:55:56AM -0500, Randy W. Sims wrote: > Michael G Schwern wrote: > >http://www.makemaker.org/wiki/index.cgi?ModulesForSale > > >1 Pulling the module and its tests out of MakeMaker and rolling up their > >own distribution. > >2 Pulling all th

ExtUtils:: modules for sale.

2004-12-18 Thread Michael G Schwern
chael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Abandon failing tactics.

Re: [PATCH] File::Find dies on find({follow=>1, ...}) on Win32

2004-12-18 Thread Michael G Schwern
ation of -l on those systems should be pretty simple. > :The moral equivalent to "return 0". And that would fix the problem. > > Agreed. But that doesn't help people using the existing perls that don't > do that. Neither does patching File::Find as there's no CP

Re: [PATCH] File::Find dies on find({follow=>1, ...}) on Win32

2004-12-18 Thread Michael G Schwern
ng I lstat'd a symlink" to which the answer on systems which do not have symlinks is always going to be "no". Thus the implementation of -l on those systems should be pretty simple. The moral equivalent to "return 0". And that would fix the problem. -- Michae

Re: add 'since' availability tags to perlapi.pod?

2004-12-18 Thread Michael G Schwern
sitories and it allows anonymous checkout. svn://svn.clkao.org/perl/p4-trunk/ # blead svn://svn.clkao.org/perl/p4-5.8/# maint The annotate command has proven very useful in tracking down historical bits like this. Much easier than searching through old tarballs. -- Michael G Schwern[E

Re: [perl #33095] Misleading documentation for "while (<>)"

2004-12-18 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 09:24:07AM -0600, Steve Peters wrote: > Just to clarify things, in which file did you find this documentation? Its in perlop. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Do not try comedy at home! Milk & Cheese are advanced

[ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25_01

2004-12-17 Thread Michael G Schwern
d.PL was being considered like Module_pm.PL. Build.PL is now ignored. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [rt.cpan.org 8809] - Devel::Cover cover_db/ directory now ignored by MANIFEST.SKIP -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Ivanova is always right. I will listen to

Re: Can't locate auto/POSIX/autosplit.ix [perl #24445] [PATCH]

2004-12-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
require does fail, but with a warning that isn't trapped. Actually the require succeeded, but with a warning that isn't trapped. I checked, POSIX::ARG_MAX() is called and returns the right value. > THIS patch comes much closer to addressing the cause. Excellent, thank you. -- Michae

Re: [PATCH] bop.t follow-up to #23645

2004-12-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
@@ > > # [rt.perl.org 33003] > # This would cause a segfault > -is( runperl(prog => 'eval q($#a>>=1); print 1'), 1 ); > +like( runperl(prog => 'eval q($#a>>=1); print 1'), "^1\n?" ); -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
ys Unixy. > And no the version on my machine doesnt look (exactly) like either one you > linked to: Ok, that's good enough. If you throw in pmfiles.dat$ that should solve your Module::Signature problems. The last few releases of Perl shipped with the wrong MANIFEST.SKIP file. That

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
Not Test::More's MANIFEST.SKIP. The system's default MANIFEST.SKIP. ExtUtils::MANIFEST.SKIP. Run "perldoc -m ExtUtils::MANIFEST.SKIP" and see if it looks like either of the urls above. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ You're the sickest teenager I've ever set my wallet on.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
MISMATCHED content between MANIFEST and distribution files! <== Ok, old versions of MakeMaker on Win32 (6.06, Dec 2002, and back) generate a pmfiles.dat. The MANIFEST.SKIP back then didn't take that into account. Autrijus is hacking up Module::Signature to account for that. -- Michael G Sch

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
This key is not certified with a > trusted signature! > Primary key fingerprint: B484 04B8 E9D5 93A2 5CA8 F1AA 4F82 E2DC 2C3F > 3F34 > ==> SKIPPED CHECKING 'Makefile'! (run Makefile.PL to ensure its integrity) > <=== > Not in MANIFEST: foo Grr. Mandatory fil

Re: Can't locate auto/POSIX/autosplit.ix [perl #24445]

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
ire should have failed. I'm still digging into exactly what's happening. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Abandon failing tactics.

Re: [perl #33052] stable links on mirror sites

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
is probably just out of sync. Could you please contact the maintainers and let them know? Thank you. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ I am the soul of honor, kindness, mercy, and goodness. Trust me in all things. -- Corwin, "Guns of Avalon"

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
N near you. > > Should the t/fork.t tests should still be skipped on Win32? Win32 Perl has > been able to fork since at least 5.6... $Config{d_fork} is what I'm going by. There's some logic in t/op/fork.t in the Perl core to take into account Windows. Patches we

[ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
0.53 Mon Nov 29 04:43:24 EST 2004 - Apparently its possible to have Module::Signature installed without it being functional. Fixed the signature test to account for this. (not a real bug) -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Mines are equal opportunity weapons.

[ANNOUNCE] ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.25

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
15:35:13 EST 2004 - dir_target() was accidentally named dir_targets() causing problems installing some Tk modules. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Sometimes you eat the path, sometimes the path eats you.

Re: [perl #33045] getlogin returns empty string when STDIN is present

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
ux 2.4.25 using Debian's 5.8.4. I can also confirm that there is no bug on OS X. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ "I might even owe you an apology." "That would be nice." "On the other hand, I thought that I was right.&q

Re: [perl #32949] FileCache only works in "main" package

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
ed or the file disappeared and reopen it if so? -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Anti-cow device. Don't bother. http://www.goats.com/archive/990323.html

Integrating MakeMaker into maint?

2004-12-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
Nobody's been screaming about the last few MakeMaker releases so it should be safe to include it in maint. I should have all the core changes merged in. I'm poised to release 6.25 (only a few minor changes) as soon as I get confirmation that 6.24_01 includes all the core changes. --

Re: Breadth first inheritance?

2004-12-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
my($meth) = $AUTOLOAD =~ /([^:]+)$/; foreach my $hasa (@HASA) { my $ref = $hasa->can($meth); $_[0] = $self->{things}{$hasa}; goto &$ref if $ref; } die "can't find that method"

Re: [perl #32949] FileCache only works in "main" package

2004-12-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
(1) is correct, I believe that to be an orthoganal issue. > sub cacheout_open { > return open(*{caller(1) . '::' . $_[1]}, $_[0], $_[1]) && $_[1]; > } > > Jos I. Boumans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replaced similar uses of caller(1) in > import() with using

Re: [perl #33003] Core dump on simple instruction

2004-12-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
be coring on 5.8.6. You were correct in reporting the bug, nothing should make Perl dump core (unless, of course, you ask it to). And as seen from all the discussion on this bug it probably was fixed incidentally as opposed to explicitly. Just want to remind folks there is a test patch attached to this

Re: broken PAUSE indexer? META.yaml is ignored?

2004-12-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
: The PAUSE indexer should be smarter about that. It should use the top level one and ignore the rest. > Randy says Autrijus uses 'no_index' and not 'private'. So that makes it > two different issues. I believe the keyword was changed at some point but I forget wh

Re: broken PAUSE indexer? META.yaml is ignored?

2004-12-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
_perl-2.0.0-RC1.tar.gz) > has META.yaml, which includes: META.yml. But I see this is a typo in the email, not the tarball. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ 7. It is always something -- RFC 1925

Re: Can't locate auto/POSIX/autosplit.ix

2004-12-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
mless): No library found for -lposix > > Note (probably harmless): No library found for -lcposix > > Can't locate auto/POSIX/autosplit.ix in @INC (@INC contains: ../../lib > > /opt/lib/perl5/5.8.6/darwin-2level /opt/lib/perl5/5.8.6 > > /opt/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/darw

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