Re: --session option to prove

2004-12-14 Thread Andy Lester
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 03:56:04PM +0200, Yuval Kogman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've started prelimenary work on Test::Harness::Daemon, which is supposed to let you make various clients to testing. Some will report, others will schedule, some will do both. Unless it's a sub-part of

Re: Q: scope exit

2004-12-14 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:49:31AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: Yes. I'll presume that the first Perl6 compiler will just emit closures for each block. Ah, I hope not. I *really* hope not. (Paying attention Patrick? :) That'd be rather slower than necessary in most cases. Yup, I'm paying

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-14 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Tue 14 Dec 2004 15:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dominic Mitchell) wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 12:21:50PM +, Matt Sergeant wrote: On 14 Dec 2004, at 11:26, Clayton, Nik wrote: To be honest, I don't care if someone's house style is for TAB to indent 2, 4, or 8 characters; how much

Re: mandelbrot

2004-12-14 Thread Jeff Horwitz
hm, works fine for others. maybe the weird port i'm using for that web server isn't agreeing with your firewall. -jeff On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Michael Walter wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:07:43 -0500 (EST), Jeff Horwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it useful? not really. does it help you

Re: mandelbrot

2004-12-14 Thread Michael Walter
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:07:43 -0500 (EST), Jeff Horwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it useful? not really. does it help you waste 5 minutes of your day? certainly. :) Waiting for the request to time out indeed wasted some idle time :-) wink-ingly yours, Michael

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-14 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Tue 14 Dec 2004 18:21, Ricardo SIGNES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * H.Merijn Brand [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-12-14T11:28:19] About spaces, another thing springs to mind, for which I would gladly kill the responsible people to allow it (I bet M$ was the first to push it): Spaces in

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
Here's all I have to say about tabs. I expect the source to look the same no matter whose editor, pager, printer or utility I run it through. Literal tabs violate this. The end. Here's what I have to say about clever bracing/spacing styles. Your bracing/spacing style should not be a

make parrot on win-xp needs wrong include file?

2004-12-14 Thread Nicu Ionita
Hi all, I'm trying to compile Parrot on Win XP (with MS Visual C++ authoring edition installed) and - after cvs update, nmake realclean, perl Configure.pl - nmake works for a while and stops with: ... astlexer.c ast\astlexer.c(1433) : fatal error C1083: Include-Datei kann nicht geƶffnet

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-14 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Tue 14 Dec 2004 21:49, Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's all I have to say about tabs. I expect the source to look the same no matter whose editor, pager, printer or utility I run it through. Literal tabs violate this. The end. Here's what I have to say about clever

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:10:51PM +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote: If programmers outside your project look at it and go Huh? you've just lost yourself a potential patch as they recoil. Don't think so. spaces and bracing is hard to do it so bad as to other people unable to be able to read it.

Re: [Maybe Spam] Coverage testing success story.

2004-12-14 Thread leif . eriksen
You may be interested in what I found on my journey to 100% coverage with D::C http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=378586 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So even when you approach 100% there's still bugs to be found with simple coverage analysis. I think this is the most valuable part of the exercise -

[patch] runops

2004-12-14 Thread Sam Ruby
Below is a rather straightforward patch, but as it represents an interface change (albeit a fully backwards compatible one), I thought I would post it for discussion. Background on the proposed change: there apparently are two sets of runops functions, I'd characterize Parrot_runops_fromc as a

Re: [Maybe Spam] Coverage testing success story.

2004-12-14 Thread Michael Carman
On 12/14/2004 6:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So even when you approach 100% there's still bugs to be found with simple coverage analysis. I think this is the most valuable part of the exercise - the bugs you find when you think 'its got 98% coverage, there

Re: [perl #33031] Current object not in place at invoke time

2004-12-14 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently parrot sets the current object for a method call *after* calliing invoke on the invokable thing. This is a bit problematic, since the invokable thing likely needs to have the object in place to invoke right. Fixed. leo

Re: [perl #32635] Parrot CVS help.

2004-12-14 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Will Coleda via RT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loading platform and local hint files. Bad command or Rerunning perl Configure.pl --verbose=2 should reveal the failing program. leo

Re: Q: scope exit

2004-12-14 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:07 AM +0100 12/10/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: * What is the intended usage of the action handler? * Specifically is this also ment for lazy DOD runs? * How is the relationship to the Cpop_pad opcode? The one thing that I figure *will* be done is that

Re: overloaded operator calling conventions

2004-12-14 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:45 AM +0100 12/11/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Thinking more about that it seems that we don't have much chance to keep the current scheme that the destination is passed in. I fully expected this to be an issue. Perl 5 and perl 6 are going to have

Re: Objects, classes, metaclasses, and other things that go bump in the night

2004-12-14 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: subclass - To create a subclass of a class object Is existing and used. add_parent - To add a parent to the class this is invoked on become_parent - Called on the class passed as a parameter to add_parent What is the latter used for?

Re: [perl #33036] [BUG] python dynclasses build failure

2004-12-14 Thread Sam Ruby
Will Coleda via RT wrote: Sam's latest patch seems to have resolved this issue - dynclasses now build, and: perl t/harness t/dynclass/py* skips 1 test, passes everything else. What test is skipped? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/parrot/dynclasses$ make test cd .. ; perl -Ilib t/harness t/dynclass/*.t

Re: [perl #33032] Parameter fillin problem

2004-12-14 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 8:48 AM -0500 12/14/04, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 9:08 AM + 12/14/04, Leopold Toetsch via RT wrote: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMCC's doing odd things when moving PMCs into the appropriate spot when calling into functions with a large number of parameters. Here's a snip from a

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-14 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Tue 14 Dec 2004 17:10, Adam Turoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:14:32 +0100, H.Merijn Brand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue 14 Dec 2004 16:04, Clayton, Nik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've normally got enough going on in my head when writing code, worrying about the

Re: mandelbrot

2004-12-14 Thread Michael Walter
Ah yep, that surely is the reason. Too bad, have to wait until I get home ;-) - Michael On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:25:32 -0500 (EST), Jeff Horwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hm, works fine for others. maybe the weird port i'm using for that web server isn't agreeing with your firewall. -jeff

Re: Objects, classes, metaclasses, and other things that go bump in the night

2004-12-14 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:13 AM +0100 12/14/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: subclass - To create a subclass of a class object Is existing and used. Right. I was listing the things we need in the protocol. Some of them we've got, some we don't, and some of the stuff we have we

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-14 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* H.Merijn Brand [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-12-14T11:28:19] About spaces, another thing springs to mind, for which I would gladly kill the responsible people to allow it (I bet M$ was the first to push it): Spaces in database table and field names. DON'T! NEVER! Once you start it, you will never

Re: [Maybe Spam] Coverage testing success story.

2004-12-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 09:32:51PM -0600, Michael Carman wrote: I think this is the most valuable part of the exercise - the bugs you find when you think 'its got 98% coverage, there cant possibly be any bugs left...oh, look' With a little luck, that's when it finally sinks that coverage

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:15:13AM +, Ben Evans wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 05:35:53AM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: Tripped across this on WardsWiki just now. #5 is my favorite as its often forgotten in the noise. Oh, the noise! Oh, the noise! Noise! Noise! Noise! That's one