Re: [HACKERS] install-strip causes dyld errors on OS X

2007-10-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
pretty big penalty but debug isn't nearly as bad. Joshua D. Drake I'd want to see benchmarking on a couple of platforms to > prove that it doesn't slow things down before making such a change. > > -- > * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: simple script to pull together a very small (<500k) tar file

2007-10-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ated that he is o.k. with removing the offending code. Instead of flogging him, how about we just remove the code and mark it up for over zealousness. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7

Re: [HACKERS] Intel x64 vs AMD x64 pgdata

2007-11-02 Thread Joshua D. Drake
f this, I took our PITR backup and > restored it properly, and everything seems to be functioning > correctly from my tests. x86_64 is x86_64, regardless of intel or amd. Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Em

[HACKERS] Test lab

2007-11-02 Thread Joshua D. Drake
who wants first bite and what do they want :) Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake P.S. It is RHEL 5. - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Select ... AS OF Savepoint

2007-11-02 Thread Joshua D. Drake
itself. :). But please > let me know your comments on why you feel this is useless. > But i guess(I may be wrong), you may be wrong about the grammar > support part. Wow, you are new here aren't you? I assure you, Tom is the last person that is going to be wrong about grammar supp

Re: [HACKERS] Machine available for community use

2007-11-02 Thread Joshua D. Drake
what is the real difference between 28 spindles with RAID 5 versus 10? > installation would be a management nightmare. Also, with personal > installations, nobody need have root privileges, which just seems > like a real good idea. No question. Joshua D. Drak

Re: [HACKERS] Machine available for community use

2007-11-02 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:11:30 -0400 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yeah, I'd vote for people just

Re: [HACKERS] Intel x64 vs AMD x64 pgdata

2007-11-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:28:46 +0100 Zdenek Kotala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > > x86_64 is x86_64, regardless of intel or amd. > > Not exactly, ask kernel guys ;-). But for user spac

Re: [HACKERS] Open items for 8.3

2007-11-05 Thread Joshua D. Drake
n/pgpatches > It would be great if this would push to the wiki. That has been working really well through the cycle. Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL solut

Re: [HACKERS] Open items for 8.3

2007-11-05 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:57:39 + Gregory Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:47:10 -0500 (EST) > > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] Test lab

2007-11-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ssues on some isolated workloads on > in-memory databases, as well as WAL writing. I'll generate the data > directly on the system. > > Any chance we can validate the I/O config and publish bonnie results > first, please? I don't see why not. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake

Re: [HACKERS] Simplifying Text Search

2007-11-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
"duh" department to ignore. A set of SQL functions would certainly be appropriate here. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] How to keep a table in memory?

2007-11-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
quire extremely expensive hardware to do so. Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match

Re: [HACKERS] How to keep a table in memory?

2007-11-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
: If you want to extend its size, you have to stop the database instance -- which is not considered good. Well, depending on the size you could push the table to another table space, drop the old table space, resize the ramfs, and reverse the previous :) Joshua D. Drake Regards

Re: [HACKERS] How to keep a table in memory?

2007-11-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
the OP. Cost is always an issue, even if implicit. If the person is so hung up on the idea of pushing things into ram there is a pretty good possibility they have priced out the 50 and 100 spindle devices needed to get the same type of performance. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake cheers

Re: [HACKERS] Spinlock backoff algorithm

2007-11-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ntel.com/performance/server/xeon/intspd.htm http://www.intel.com/performance/server/xeon/fpspeed.htm Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] Spinlock backoff algorithm

2007-11-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Nov 14, 2007 10:12 PM, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.intel.com/performance/server/xeon/intspd.htm http://www.intel.com/performance/server/xeon/fpspeed.htm That says precisely nothing about the matter at hand. Someone should simply cha

Re: [HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
erhaps 72), but we have a couple of violations either way, which I'd > like to fix, but what to? Why not just have the terminal control the wrap? It isn't just \? that does it. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Sup

Re: [HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
width, but if you try to print in the > last column you may get unexpected extra blank lines. O.k. this might be offtopic if it is feel free to smack me... but I have noticed that psql really breaks on terminals that are wide.. \df works fine, but \df+ is completely broke. Can't we just ask the term

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
t to be coordinated so that what is in the release doesn't vary depending on who committed last. O.k., so what do you want to do? Or more to the point, is there something I can help with? I have machines with 2.59... Marc do you have any left with 2.59? Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ersion... Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 23:37:22 -0500 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier) writes: configure (r1.570 -> r1.571) (http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/configure?r1=1.570

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 20:49:04 -0800 "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, 2.59 isn't even

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
idea of a "freeze" :). E.g; All animals must go green and stay green with zero additional commits for 24 hours before we wrap. Is that something that sounds reasonable? Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > regards, tom lane > > ---(en

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
g an older version of autoconf? I mean, if everything is put together with 2.61, are 2.59 versions going to have an issue? Joshua D. Drake - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
is currently accepted. That way we don't have to make that distinction. Autoconf 2.59 is going to be predominantly in the wild (rhel 5, centos5 , dapper, debian) for at least another 3-4 years. Joshua D. Drake regards, tom lane ---(end of br

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Fixes for MONEY type using locale

2007-11-26 Thread Joshua D. Drake
l semantic gap > there. Perhaps but the practical gap is much narrower. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > regards, tom lane > > ---(end of > broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the > postm

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Fixes for MONEY type using locale

2007-11-26 Thread Joshua D. Drake
eplace('2343'::money::text, '[^$,]*', > '', 'g')::numeric; regexp_replace > > 2343.00 > (1 row) > > but the '$' and ',' are locale-specific and I can't think of a way to > do t

Re: [HACKERS] Quality and Performance

2007-11-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
formance: HOT -- has a direct correlation to performance because without it we vacuum more. Not only more, but in a lot of cases it resolves a serious PostgreSQL limitation for high velocity tables. Phantom Xid - less vacuuming The sequential scan thing Jeff Davis did The reduced size of the tup

Re: [HACKERS] Quality and Performance

2007-11-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:18:52 + Simon Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 10:08 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Simon Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agreed. I either initiated or assisted with

Re: [HACKERS] PG 7.3 is five years old today

2007-11-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
STABLE > branch since 7.3.20. Rather than just leaving those to rot, maybe the > actual policy should be "only one more update after 8.3 comes out". > > Comments, opinions? Release 7.3.21 with and EOL addendum :). E.g; this is the last release of 7.3 and

Re: [HACKERS] Quality and Performance

2007-11-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
re these > are at. One is likely to be running RHEL, one Solaris. The RHEL one as I know it, is the MyYearbook donated one. We are currently unaware of the status of that machine except to say it is currently running Gentoo. I don't know the status of the Solaris machine except that I think

Re: [HACKERS] Quality and Performance

2007-11-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:00:03 + Simon Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 12:36 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > The RHEL one as I know it, is the MyYearbook donated one. We are > > currently unawa

Re: [HACKERS] Quality and Performance

2007-11-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:00:03 + Simon Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 12:36 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > The RHEL one as I know it, is the MyYearbook donated one. We are > > currently unawa

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
om the release notes (btw, if > people have countries for the folks who aren't attributed, I'd > appreciate them). Of course, there are many contributors to essential > non-core code who should be listed as well: It would be useful to know the requirements to be listed... Joshua

Re: [HACKERS] Quality and Performance

2007-11-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
s of different test from pgbench, odbcbench, dbt2, custom scripts etc... to provide trending for a particular host. That way if one host does 50tps continuously and then changes one way or the other, there is at least a flag... Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Compa

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
bvious the only question is it only committers to the source tree or do we want to give equal billing to the -www guys (I think yes to equal billing) Members (really I think this should be contributors but then it is duplicative) Hacker Emeritus Special Thanks (not sure about thi

Re: [HACKERS] PG 7.3 is five years old today

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ld all support the new protocol. Except that we just broke the proposed upgrade path if we do that... Let's not put people in a catch-22. Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Pos

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
> Sorry, forgot to say what to put instead. I'll go with "Canada" -- > it's more exotic :) I believe the list is where you are actually at. Aren't you in the UK right now? Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Sup

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
web/infrastructure team. Define Hacker. And I could argue that some are members of PGDG. What about those who provide just as much time and energy in advocacy as others do on -heackers? What about people that are working on external projects only such as Slony or PLproxy? Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:53:43 + Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:27:42 + > > Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Why not Hackers? Noon

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
nough but I think the point is still relevant, in that we really don't want to state specifically what a "Major" contributor is, I think it opens us up to more bad mojo than just saying you are either a regular contributor, or not :) Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- === The

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:15:52 -0500 Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >Committers <-- this is obvious the only question is it only > > committers to the source tree or do we

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ling list subscribers :). However a reasonably managed list that shows strength in not only numbers but a solid base of frequent contributors, show duration and maturity within the project. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > -Kevin > > > > > ---

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ointing to a logistical problem with that thought process. You are a hacker, you are also a pgfoundry admin and buildfarm maintainer... Which list would you like to be under? Joshua D. Drake P.S. I know that answer, that isn't the point. - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Promp

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:06:58 -0400 "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - --On Wednesday, November 28, 2007 08:20:04 -0800 "Joshua

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Time to update list of contributors

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
akes sense, based on that to break it out. However there is another consideration in that at least two core members seem to have zero interest in being involved in a very public way like you suggest above. So perhaps it makes sense for core to be inclusive of the list and instead push all "contacts

Re: [HACKERS] PG 7.3 is five years old today

2007-11-29 Thread Joshua D. Drake
sidering we still have Postgres95 in the tree I would bet you are right :) Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 release

2007-11-29 Thread Joshua D. Drake
nother beta before RC1 would be warranted. I think the email is not quite clear :). There is a Beta 4 coming, the problem is packagers aren't really available this week so if it comes it will be next week. At least that is last I heard. Joshua D. Drake > > -Neil &

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-01 Thread Joshua D. Drake
column being updated isn't indexed? Seems kind of long but isn't that "exactly" what it does? Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > cheers > > andrew > > ---(end of > broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading >

Re: [HACKERS] Simplifying Text Search

2007-12-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
about? :) Stealth marketing :)... Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ UNIQUE NOT NULL Donate to

Re: [HACKERS] Uniform policy for author credits in contrib module documentation?

2007-12-05 Thread Joshua D. Drake
eed to be mentioning contributions like that. Those who have contributed are in the logs. Further those who have provided reasonable contribution really should be mentioned on the contributors page that is up for discussion which would make the rest of this moot yes? Sincerely, Joshua

Re: [HACKERS] Uniform policy for author credits in contrib module documentation?

2007-12-05 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Tom Lane wrote: "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ...Further those who have provided reasonable contribution really should be mentioned on the contributors page that is up for discussion which would make the rest of this moot yes? I don't have any objection

Re: [HACKERS] Compiling PG on linux

2007-12-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
I improve something adding some missing option/command to the above steps? Where and how to apply the TRACE_SORT option? Any other useful options? You don't want --enable-cassert on a production machine it is a performance hit. Joshua D. Drake ---(e

Re: [HACKERS] [DOCS] "distributed checkpoint"

2007-12-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
le mot juste. Best I could do was "spread > checkpoint" or "time-extended checkpoint". Anybody have a better > idea? balanced gradual extended (I see you mention time-extended but wouldn't time be implicit based on the actual docs and thus we only need extended

Re: [HACKERS] [DOCS] "distributed checkpoint"

2007-12-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:43:29 -0800 David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 07:19:44PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Thu, 0

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Uniform policy for author credits in contrib module documentation?

2007-12-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
espond especially fast. If the community-at-large can't handle a bug, we certainly have enough institutional memory to try to contact the original author, even if that address isn't in the SGML docs. Perhaps the at a minimum the email goes in the commit? Joshua D. Drake

Re: [HACKERS] pg_controldata doesn't report 64/32bit?

2007-12-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
a handful of built-in data types but I suppose there will always be holes in this area anyways. What are we gaining here? A 32bit postmaster can't start a 64bit one... Running select version() will tell you if you are running 64 or 32bit... What am I missing? Josh

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
actually do the work > required to list _all_ fixes/changes in a release. The job isn't that > hard, maybe a few days work for someone experienced. O.k. I would buy this.. Joshua D. Drake > - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
between a individual who is a contributor and a company that is a contributor interesting. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
lopers list) as the definitive source and just provide a link. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] whats the deal with -u ?

2007-12-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
see us going back to -u regardless of how logical it may be. Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Gregory Stark wrote: "Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joshua D. Drake wrote: Note that I am not arguing one way or the other, but I find the distinction between a individual who is a contributor and a company that is a contributor interesting. Individual mention

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Bruce Momjian wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: However as a user I find it helpful to get a kind of overview of the kinds of invisible changes there were so I can get a feel for the magnitude of the improvements between versions. I agree with this as well. However, I am starting to wonder if the

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Bruce Momjian wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: I assumed the white paper would have proper attribution. Right, but is the white paper going to be thorough to mention _all_ changes? Hmmm good question which gets back to where we started :). My very first thought on all of this was that we

Re: [HACKERS] whats the deal with -u ?

2007-12-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
cific circumstances that a password prompt would not appear. Thus we added the option for -W. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: You can help support the PostgreSQL project by donating at http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Bruce Momjian wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: I assumed the white paper would have proper attribution. Right, but is the white paper going to be thorough to mention _all_ changes? Hmmm good question which gets back to where we started :). My very

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ers, two a relatively new. Full names makes the most sense. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake cheers andrew ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings --

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:14:58 -0500 (EST) Kris Jurka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > 3. It was grunt work that should have been done with the original > > patch that

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
nce we have two Heikkis it will be obvious to anyone that we are the World's most globally developed advanced Open Source database. Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:13:58 -0300 Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > > We even have two Gavins. However I think we will truly reach the > > &

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:16:12 -0500 (EST) Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kris Jurka wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > > 3. It was grunt work that should ha

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
our system of feedback works (good), but the > criteria used isn't 100% agreed. > > My point is that it isn't that I am too subjective and closed to > feedback on adding/removing items, but rather the policy used isn't > open for feedback; but it really is. Should we o

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
pent more than a day. That's fair. There is a psql section in the release notes. Why not just add it there. Various psql improvements including \d commands for tsearch, \prompt capability, and better \timing functionality. (Andrew Dunstan, Stefan Kaltenbrunner, Tom Lane, Chad Wagner) Sincere

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
clear policy. There is clear policy to you and Tom but I have been here a lot of years and didn't know about it. If that is the policy, fine :) but it needs to get documented somewhere that is no buried in a list archive that gets thousands of messages a month. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -

Re: [HACKERS] Release Note Changes

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
lying issue though. Did you see my email to Tom on the matter? About grouping? Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTE

[HACKERS] test

2007-12-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
test ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] WORM and Read Only Tables (v0.1)

2007-12-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
global indexes are bad for certain situations for others they are required. Constraint Exclusion/Partitioning is not only for ginormous tables. It can also be used for maintenance efficiency, micro optimizations and just general data architecture. Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Comp

Re: [HACKERS] VLDB Features

2007-12-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Greenplum as well as other Real Life stuff. For those of us here who have no idea what you are talking about can you define what "Real Life" is like? Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company: Since 1997, http://www.comm

Re: [HACKERS] Recreating archive_status

2007-12-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
s which perform this automatically will not need > changing. > > We can keep the message in case something removes the directory later. > > Views? +1 Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company: Since 1997, http://www.commandprompt.com/ Sales/Support: +1

Re: [HACKERS] [DOCS] "distributed checkpoint"

2007-12-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
it for 6 months? Is a translator really not able to change 3 words in a week? Come again. I think it is likely more about being able to reach the translators. The more common ones such as yourself are obvious but others may not be. Either way, I think that the change is valid and we need t

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Slow PITR restore

2007-12-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:12:26 -0800 "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hmm --- I was testing a straight crash-recovery scenario, not > > > restoring from archive. Are you sure your restore_command sc

Re: [HACKERS] Board for developers

2007-12-17 Thread Joshua D. Drake
> >> somewhere, so companies could evaluate it. > >> > > > > A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me... > > The question is how it's visible to companies ? This really doesn't belong on -hackers... :). Can we move it to -www? Sincerely, Josh

Re: [HACKERS] Board for developers

2007-12-18 Thread Joshua D. Drake
I know that CMD would participate and although I am being presumptuous I pretty sure EDB is also a no brainer. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company: Since 1997, http://www.commandprompt.com/ Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Dona

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for Null Bitmap Optimization(for TrailingNULLs)

2007-12-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Tom very seriously. Andrew is absolutely correct here. If you do not agree with Tom, you best prove why. Otherwise your patch will likely be ignored on submission. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company: Since 1997, http://www.commandprompt.com/ Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564

Re: [HACKERS] function body actors (was: [PERFORM] viewing source code)

2007-12-21 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ve them different databases." I think there is a fundamental disconnect here. The "Give them different databases" argument is essentially useless. Consider a organization that has Sales and HR. You don't give both a separate database. They need access to "some" of

Re: [HACKERS] Spoofing as the postmaster

2007-12-29 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Andrew Dunstan wrote: It might well be useful for us to look at drafting an SELinux policy, even if it's not universal. After all, this situation is precisely the sort of thing that SELinux is about, ISTM. http://code.google.com/p/sepgsql/ ??? Sincerely, Joshua D.

Re: [HACKERS] Spoofing as the postmaster

2007-12-29 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:40:29 -0500 (EST) Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > http://code.google.com/p/sepgsql/ > > ??? > > Getting that to work required some o

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Please submit for OSCON!

2008-01-03 Thread Joshua D. Drake
he PostgreSQL Day is planned. I am working with John Mark to also have a PostgreSQL Day at LinuxWorld as well. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company: Since 1997, http://www.commandprompt.com/ Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Donate to the Post

[HACKERS] Bug: Unreferenced temp tables disables vacuum to update xid

2008-01-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
query: SELECT relname, age(relfrozenxid) FROM pg_class WHERE relkind = 'r'; To: SELECT relname, age(relfrozenxid) FROM pg_class WHERE relkind = 'r' OR relkind = 't'; I apologize if this doesn't quite make sense. I am very tired but I wanted to make sure to g

Re: [HACKERS] Bug: Unreferenced temp tables disables vacuum to update xid

2008-01-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Joshua D. Drake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I spent the better part of this evening tracking down a problem with a high velocity database. The database had entered the point of no return by invoking xidStopLimit. 8.2.4 Joshua D. Drake

Re: [HACKERS] Bug: Unreferenced temp tables disables vacuum to update xid

2008-01-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Ping? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I spent the better part of this evening tracking down a problem with a high velocity database. The database had entered the point of no return by invoking xidStopLimit. This by itself isn't a problem be

Re: [HACKERS] Bug: Unreferenced temp tables disables vacuum to update xid

2008-01-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:18:24 -0300 Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > >> SELECT oid::regclass FROM pg_class WHERE > >> reltoastrelid='pg_toast.pg_toast_49013869

Re: [HACKERS] Bug: Unreferenced temp tables disables vacuum to update xid

2008-01-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
e of differences. 1. I had to manually vacuum because we had already hid xidStoplimit. 2. Postgres has been restarted multiple times and it made zero difference. E.g; PostgreSQL isn't cleaning up after itself and it isn't apparent when it happens. Sincerely, Joshua D.

Re: [HACKERS] VACUUM FULL out of memory

2008-01-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
historical leftover? If it is > only needed for emergency, should it not have a different name? > Just curious.. There are times when it is required, usually when people don't configure normal vacuum/autovacuum correctly. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > Holger > >

Re: [HACKERS] Bug: Unreferenced temp tables disables vacuum to update xid

2008-01-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
l time to resolution, and not requiring hacking the backend > to get there. > +1 Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company: Since 1997, http://www.commandprompt.com/ Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.p

Re: 8.3.0 release schedule (Was:Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] BUG #3852: Could not create complex aggregate)

2008-01-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
release when it is done not release because lots of people are waiting for it. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company: Since 1997, http://www.commandprompt.com/ Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.

Re: [HACKERS] Bug: Unreferenced temp tables disables vacuum to update xid

2008-01-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
ariable into the mix. This machine was a PITR slave that was pushed into production about two weeks ago. Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] Named vs Unnamed Partitions

2008-01-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
with_dates.html and: http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.php/3456991 Or worlds above us in usability. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company: Since 1997, http://www.commandprompt.com/ Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Dona

Re: [HACKERS] Postgresql Materialized views

2008-01-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
re to use the plain text backup. I think his email was very well written and a simple request of discussion of alternatives as well as future plans. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > Cheers, > mark > - -- The PostgreSQL Company: Since 1997, http://www.commandprompt.com/ Sales/Support:

Re: [HACKERS] Postgresql Materialized views

2008-01-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
one of those "University Places"? From people outside the Computer Science department? Maybe even some people in Industrial Psychology? Somebody probably needs a Master's project Actually you just need to not be on -hackers :). This belongs over in

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