Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Norbert, On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:30, Norbert Hartl wrote: > The only limit that I tested is a maximum of threads of 1100 or 1400, can't > remember right now. The image is stuck then. I know we are way off topic, but are you sure you were not running into some OS limit (max open files/sockets whi

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > On 28/02/12 4:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> If I understand you correctly, then what you are talking about is not >> caching objects but rather lazy loading. You mean when Glorp lets some >> proxies of the loaded graph so that the

Re: [Pharo-project] It would be me first

2012-02-29 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi Norbert! On 02/28/2012 10:38 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: Sounds good. I work with Seaside-Rest and Magritte3 on a daily base. This time with MongoDB using MongoTalk. So I'm quite confident that the choice of the stack is superb :) I decided to use MongoDB because it did not want to be content

Re: [Pharo-project] It would be me first

2012-02-29 Thread Geert Claes
Göran Krampe wrote > > SmalltalkHub has gone through some technical evolution which has taken > some time. Especially various persistence schemes were tested and most of > them ended up problematic, Nicolas tested a LOT of variations I think. > > The latest stack looks very promising though - an

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14367, #14368

2012-02-29 Thread Marcus Denker
14367 - Issue 5415: Select the first entry in the InspectorThanks to camillobruni http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5415 14368 - Issue 5421: Deprecate BlockContext http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5421 Issue 5420: Remove MidiP

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub news (was: It would be me first)

2012-02-29 Thread Germán Arduino
Hi Nico: First question that comes to my mind, why Riak and not Gemstone? Cheers. 2012/2/28 Nicolas Petton > Hi all! > > As Göran said, he recently joined our forces on SmalltalkHub. We're used > to working together and he has great Riak knowledge. He's mainly working on > the Riak-backed Mont

Re: [Pharo-project] VNC client

2012-02-29 Thread Norbert Hartl
Jan, I tried chicken of the vnc and basically it works. The "chicken" version (is newer) that is based on chicken of the vnc does not work. I use Mac as client to connect to a linux server machine (well it's pharo). Do you have a different setup? However how do you map the keys? I cannot use a

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-29 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 29.02.2012 um 09:10 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: > Norbert, > > On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:30, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> The only limit that I tested is a maximum of threads of 1100 or 1400, can't >> remember right now. The image is stuck then. > > I know we are way off topic, but are you sur

Re: [Pharo-project] Nearly limitless Image: revisited.

2012-02-29 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi Ted, I also support the image as a sole persistence idea and I'm actually using it for years on VisualWorks. For Pharo there seems everyone is avoiding this idea, mostly because of image corruption fear. Well, we need to improve the robustness of Pharo image and VM then this fear will vanish.

Re: [Pharo-project] Nearly limitless Image: revisited.

2012-02-29 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 29, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: > Hi Ted, > > I also support the image as a sole persistence idea and I'm actually > using it for years on VisualWorks. > > For Pharo there seems everyone is avoiding this idea, mostly because of > image corruption fear. Well, we need to improve

Re: [Pharo-project] New IDE alternative (was Misc. newbie questions)

2012-02-29 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I was not criticizing your solution. I was actually asking for help :). I would like to get a text morph in the tree and have it scale both horizontally to fill the available space, and vertically to accommodate the entire text. I show the example with the GeneralScrollPane because I managed

[Pharo-project] Pharo user vs. Pharo developer (was Nearly limitless Image)

2012-02-29 Thread Janko Mivšek
S, Marcus Denker piše: > Janko Mivšek wrote: >> I also support the image as a sole persistence idea and I'm actually >> using it for years on VisualWorks. >> >> For Pharo there seems everyone is avoiding this idea, mostly because of >> image corruption fear. Well, we need to improve the robustness

Re: [Pharo-project] Nearly limitless Image: revisited.

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 29 Feb 2012, at 12:58, Janko Mivšek wrote: > For Pharo there seems everyone is avoiding this idea, mostly because of > image corruption fear. Well, we need to improve the robustness of Pharo > image and VM then this fear will vanish. It is obviously doable, if VW > is reliable enough, why not

Re: [Pharo-project] Nearly limitless Image: revisited.

2012-02-29 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 29 Feb 2012, at 12:58, Janko Mivšek wrote: > >> For Pharo there seems everyone is avoiding this idea, mostly because of >> image corruption fear. Well, we need to improve the robustness of Pharo >> image and VM then this fear will

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo user vs. Pharo developer (was Nearly limitless Image)

2012-02-29 Thread Frank Shearar
2012/2/29 Janko Mivšek : > S, Marcus Denker piše: >> Janko Mivšek wrote: > >>> I also support the image as a sole persistence idea and I'm actually >>> using it for years on VisualWorks. >>> >>> For Pharo there seems everyone is avoiding this idea, mostly because of >>> image corruption fear. Well,

Re: [Pharo-project] VNC client

2012-02-29 Thread Jan van de Sandt
Hi Norbert, I have the same setup. But I must confess that I use the VNC client as little as possible, only for troubleshooting. If I have to do real work I copy the image to my local development laptop. So I don't really know if the key mapping works. I will test this tonight. Jan. On Wed, Fe

Re: [Pharo-project] Nearly limitless Image: revisited.

2012-02-29 Thread Janko Mivšek
S, Marcus Denker piše: > On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> On 29 Feb 2012, at 12:58, Janko Mivšek wrote: >> >>> For Pharo there seems everyone is avoiding this idea, mostly because of >>> image corruption fear. Well, we need to improve the robustness of Pharo >>> image an

[Pharo-project] Presenter/Acceptor

2012-02-29 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
I don't know if it's good idea but what about adding it to aidaDescriptor? e.g we would have: (descriopton textFieldOn: #someAspect) Presenter: StandardTextPresenter on: Accepter: StandardAccepter for: or the like In CLIM the presenter depends on the stream for output

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3

2012-02-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sig, I appear to a 1.3 image in preliminary state. I'm sure stuff will be broken, and Cog is rearing its head by looking for external libraries in the wrong places; symlinks should clear that up, but it's ugly. I used the 1.3 seaside image as a base, and will have Seaside 2-3 problems to fix.

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 February 2012 14:57, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Sig, > > I appear to a 1.3 image in preliminary state.  I'm sure stuff will be broken, > and Cog is rearing its head by looking for external libraries in the wrong > places; symlinks should clear that up, but it's ugly. > Bill, it's not about

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14369

2012-02-29 Thread Marcus Denker
14369 - Issue 5331: use the glamour style for pretty print http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5331 Issue 5396: Deprecate TTMorph classes http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5396 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

[Pharo-project] MC and shared pools

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
I just stumbled upon this.. I was assuming that it is perfectly fine to: - define a shared pool in package - make a class which using given pool in same package but when MC loads it , it looks like it doesn't care about loading order and if it loads the class which using pool first, it says that

Re: [Pharo-project] New IDE alternative (was Misc. newbie questions)

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 February 2012 13:14, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > I was not criticizing your solution. I was actually asking for help :). > > I would like to get a text morph in the tree and have it scale both > horizontally to fill the available space, and vertically to > accommodate the entire text. I sho

Re: [Pharo-project] New IDE alternative (was Misc. newbie questions)

2012-02-29 Thread Krishsmalltalk
Sure I understood that, I am still just month and a half of dabbling in morphic, that i am still learning I do not take any comments amiss. Thx On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > I was not criticizing your solution. I was actually asking for help :). > > I wou

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

2012-02-29 Thread Benjamin
On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:44 AM, laurent laffont wrote:Hi Benjamin,I've worked with Nautilus and I like it. Several nice ideas to work faster. Good work !  Bugs:- Go in groups, select a class. Click Hierarchy, then Groups. The Hierarchy/Flat button state is wrong. - jump to test class not working (MNU

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

2012-02-29 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Benjamin < benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for your feedback and your suggestions :) Thanks for making the world a better place -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo user vs. Pharo developer (was Nearly limitless Image)

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
+1 No we also prefer to work on OUR tasks. >> Someone needs to start fixing and improving. Why not, for example, you? > > I'm a Pharo user, not Pharo developer. Developer of Pharo itself, that > is. I'm just using it as a tool to contribute on other fields like on > the web. > > Therefore it is

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] can this be done via modification to the Squeak/Pharo IDE?

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Muller
His presentation was impressive and refined, but he failed to mention a _most dynamic_ way to develop ideas... By closing one's eyes and simply imagining the possibilities without *any* burden of visible code. IOW, imagine without being constrained by the "how" or whether its even possible. THEN,

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3

2012-02-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sig, I went back to 1.3 to get shout in browsers, and because it is theoretically more stable than 1.4. AFAIK, the key to finding libraries on Ubuntu is to use the #moduleName. Integration of the load function with ldconfig will do the rest, or should. The idea is a good one: one needs root

Re: [Pharo-project] Nearly limitless Image: revisited.

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
>>> > > Guys, calm down a bit please. There will be a Pharo Consortium, we will > actually pay something, so it is a time to start improving the support > infrastructure as well. We are and this is two years already that we are :) > With users vs internal developer distinction included. > > I'

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

2012-02-29 Thread Benjamin
:$ Ben On Feb 29, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Benjamin > wrote: > Thanks for your feedback and your suggestions :) > > Thanks for making the world a better place > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are r

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3

2012-02-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sig, I just noted that Alien-examples contains a couple of classes with no methods. Where can I find examples of callbacks in action? Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of S

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3

2012-02-29 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, I don't know which version of VM and Pharo are you using, but for using Alien properly in latest version you need to load FFI first: Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfFFI'; load. (ConfigurationOfFFI project version: '1.5') load.

Re: [Pharo-project] Nearly limitless Image: revisited.

2012-02-29 Thread Janko Mivšek
Good compromise is a step by step approach, something like: 1.step: image based persistence up to 1GB with hourly snapshot 2.step: parts migrated to Fuel and file based persistence 3.step: Gemstone, with "images" running in parallel (well, any DB with images in parallel, Gemstone i

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] can this be done via modification to the Squeak/Pharo IDE?

2012-02-29 Thread Nick Ager
Hi Chris, > His comment on modality really emphasizes this point, and something I > think folks even in this community could stand to listen: when I > observe folks in their demo videos using Squeak or Pharo, almost every > time I see folks browsing in a modal way. They have a big > Package-Pan

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3

2012-02-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Esteban, Dumb question: let's say I loaded 1.2 or so of FFI and 0.1 of Alien. Can I safely run the code you show in that image, or do I need to start over? Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inri

[Pharo-project] New CogVM binaries as per VMMaker.oscog-eem.150/r2537

2012-02-29 Thread Eliot Miranda
http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2537/ CogVM binaries as per VMMaker.oscog-eem.150/r2537 Disable filling of the weakRoots table during fullGC. Report remappable oop and weak root table overflows as errors. Make primitiveObjectAtPut fail if used to store other than a SmallInteger into

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Camillo Bruni
:D On 2012-02-29, at 19:30, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > Hi, > Ok crappy but working example how apply texture to surface with Native Boost > (OpenGL). > Next step conquer the world, Pinky. > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Igor coded with me one h

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

2012-02-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Ben/Laurent: it would be really nice to open issues so that not to forget things :) sorry, but no time now :( On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Benjamin < benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:44 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > Hi Benjamin, > > I've worked with Nau

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
:) you seems to have fun after the lantronix XP. Stef On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] can this be done via modification to the Squeak/Pharo IDE?

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Nick Ager wrote: > Hi Chris, > > > His comment on modality really emphasizes this point, and something I > think folks even in this community could stand to listen: when I > observe folks in their demo videos using Squeak or Pharo, almost every > time I see folks b

Re: [Pharo-project] Spoon presentation 2012-02-24

2012-02-29 Thread Guido Stepken
Hi, Craig! Concerning your Spoon demo ... *nobody* around me has Apple. Would you please make your demo installable on Windows or better Linux? tnx in advance ... Guido

Re: [Pharo-project] Nearly limitless Image: revisited.

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
2012/2/29 Janko Mivšek : > Good compromise is a step by step approach, something like: > >  1.step: image based persistence up to 1GB with hourly snapshot >  2.step: parts migrated to Fuel and file based persistence >  3.step: Gemstone, with "images" running in parallel (well, any DB >          wit

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Baptiste Arnaud
yes, ^^ ;-p On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > :) you seems to have fun after the lantronix XP. > > Stef > > On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > >> > > Regard Jean Baptiste Arnaud jbaptiste.arn...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
so may be connecting to objective-C :) But the paperS first ;) Stef On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > yes, ^^ ;-p > > On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> :) you seems to have fun after the lantronix XP. >> >> Stef >> >> On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:33

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 February 2012 19:26, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Sig, > > I just noted that Alien-examples contains a couple of classes with no > methods.  Where can I find examples of callbacks in action? > Bill, i am not maintainer of Alien. It is largely unknown to me. I even won't be surprised that you k

[Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Can we play with it :)? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3

2012-02-29 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi , It shouldn't be a problem. Best, Esteban El 29/02/2012, a las 15:26, "Schwab,Wilhelm K" escribió: > Esteban, > > Dumb question: let's say I loaded 1.2 or so of FFI and 0.1 of Alien. Can I > safely run the code you show in that image, or do I need to start over? > > Bill > > >

Re: [Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 February 2012 22:03, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Can we play with it :)? > Yes, configuration seems to be working after some last-minute fixes. I now do some cleanup in AthensSurfaceExamples to make sure they using right class. > Stef -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Re: [Pharo-project] Spoon presentation 2012-02-24

2012-02-29 Thread Craig Latta
Hi Guido-- > *nobody* around me has Apple. Would you please make your demo > installable on Windows or better Linux? Do you mean the Prezi presentation? That runs on MacOS and Windows (run prezi.exe). thanks, -C -- Craig Latta www.netjam.org/resume +31 6 2757 7177 + 1 415 287 35

Re: [Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 February 2012 22:41, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 29 February 2012 22:03, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> Can we play with it :)? >> > > Yes, configuration seems to be working after some last-minute fixes. > > I now do some cleanup in AthensSurfaceExamples > to make sure they using right class. >

Re: [Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Excellent! Make our eyes blinking of pleasure :) On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 29 February 2012 22:03, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> Can we play with it :)? >> > > Yes, configuration seems to be working after some last-minute fixes. > > I now do some cleanup in AthensSur

[Pharo-project] leaking semaphores

2012-02-29 Thread Milan Mimica
Hi! I am continuing my search of why does my remote headless image run out of semaphores eventually. I have found the culprit this time. It is most definitively related to RFBServer. I am using version 38 from http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted. Every time I disconnect from the image with my

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Erwan Douaille
Hi ! I would like to know if it is possible to use texture with vertex3f. I didn't find anything in opengl bible :S 2012/2/29 Stéphane Ducasse > so may be connecting to objective-C :) > But the paperS first ;) > > Stef > > On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > > > yes, ^^

Re: [Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I remember fernando published some changes related to Cairo. But it would be good that we improve. Stef >>> Yes, configuration seems to be working after some last-minute fixes. >> >> I now do some cleanup in AthensSurfaceExamples >> to make sure they using right class. >> > > There are some mo

[Pharo-project] does anybody use for business the Native Mac menus?

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys we are thinking that we want to (rewrite) remove the support for native mac menus because it goes against the flow of things and the cleanup of the events we are doing. So before removing them we would like to assess if we should really support that or not now. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 February 2012 22:58, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Excellent! > Make our eyes blinking of pleasure :) > okay, i added version 0.1.1 with cleaned examples. So, you can use AthensBalloonSurfaceExamples example... to check. I will iterate over AthensCairoSurfaceExamples tomorrow, since i under w

Re: [Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 February 2012 23:20, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I remember fernando published some changes related to Cairo. > But it would be good that we improve. > Yes, Fernando, i need to review the code. And i would require your code , which is working using athens, so if i will break something i will k

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 February 2012 23:12, Erwan Douaille wrote: > Hi ! > > I would like to know if it is possible to use texture with vertex3f. I > didn't find anything in opengl bible :S > vertex3f is for defining the vertex position and completely orthogonal to texture(s). for defining the texture coordinates

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] can this be done via modification to the Squeak/Pharo IDE?

2012-02-29 Thread Benjamin
Here is the video of Nautilus I made for ESUG [1] You can see groups in the video. But this video is a bit old, and Nautilus changed a lot in the mid time :) So soon I will do another video (but tonight I am too tired ^^) Ben [1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24369478/ESUG-Nautilus-Award.m4v On Fe

Re: [Pharo-project] Spoon presentation 2012-02-24

2012-02-29 Thread Guido Stepken
Am 29.02.2012 21:55, schrieb Craig Latta: Hi Guido-- *nobody* around me has Apple. Would you please make your demo installable on Windows or better Linux? Do you mean the Prezi presentation? That runs on MacOS and Windows (run prezi.exe). No, meant: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15188004/sp

Re: [Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> >> Excellent! >> Make our eyes blinking of pleasure :) >> > > okay, i added version 0.1.1 call it 0.2 :) > with cleaned examples. > > So, you can use > AthensBalloonSurfaceExamples example... > > to check. > I will iterate over AthensCairoSurfaceExamples > tomorrow, since i under windoze n

Re: [Pharo-project] leaking semaphores

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
I find it funny, that your "interference" is actually root of all problems :) I don't know much about RFBServer , the only thing i know is that it is quite old (not in terms that it rusty, but in terms of it existence). Can't say what happens, but probably on terminating connection it does some na

Re: [Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 March 2012 00:25, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Excellent! >>> Make our eyes blinking of pleasure :) >>> >> >> okay, i added version 0.1.1 > > call it 0.2 :) i reserve that number for more dramatic changes :) > >> with cleaned examples. >> >> So, you can use >> AthensBalloonSurfaceExamples

[Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Does 1.3 by default not create field accessors? Why is that? I thought nothing was happening. Bill

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
woow... it is always fun to see that something which looks like trash (who can be impressed by a stupid rotating cube today?) can be turned into piece of art with a few keystrokes, just by taking right pictures :) And that's why it is soo fun to work with graphics. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenk

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 March 2012 00:37, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Does 1.3 by default not create field accessors?  Why is that?  I thought > nothing was happening. > Good question, i'd like to know the answer too. It is related to MC final 'installation' phase, where it initializing all classes. In NativeBoost i

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Another glitch: is there any problem passing things as void*? I'm getting failure to coerce errors that did not arise before. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Igor Stasenko [s

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] can this be done via modification to the Squeak/Pharo IDE?

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
Nautilus is a good example of what can be done in pharo, starting with a little knowledge, a little love and seeing clear goal ahead. Instead of endless discussions on mailing list "can this be done" :) On 29 February 2012 23:42, Benjamin wrote: > Here is the video of Nautilus I made for ESUG [1]

Re: [Pharo-project] does anybody use for business the Native Mac menus?

2012-02-29 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I think we need to support it for all platforms or for none... so... +1 to drop them :) (mars work will solve this, imho in a less "hacky" way... but of course, mars is taking some time :P) best, Esteban El 29/02/2012, a las 6:21p.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió: > Hi guys > > we are thinking

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] can this be done via modification to the Squeak/Pharo IDE?

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 01 Mar 2012, at 00:02, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Nautilus is a good example of what can be done in pharo, starting with > a little knowledge, a little love and seeing clear goal ahead. Indeed, but I would give Ben en co more credit than that, they did a great job ! > Instead of endless discussi

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 March 2012 00:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Another glitch: is there any problem passing things as void*?  I'm getting > failure to coerce errors that did not arise before. > No idea. As you may suspect, i stopped using FFI/Alien once i got NativeBoost toy to play with. Please file the issu

Re: [Pharo-project] does anybody use for business the Native Mac menus?

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
yes, we found that many things in implementation is hardwiring between different things. So even if it will stay, we need cleanup/refactoring. Absolutely it cannot stay in its current form. On 1 March 2012 01:09, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > I think we need to support it for all platforms or for no

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I also found some problems using void* in linux... maybe you want to use long (which has same size)... I "fixed" my problems that way. yes... maybe we need to look at FFI to see why void* has problems some times, but well, that can help you atm (sorry for not having a better answer) Esteban

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] can this be done via modification to the Squeak/Pharo IDE?

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 March 2012 01:10, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 01 Mar 2012, at 00:02, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> Nautilus is a good example of what can be done in pharo, starting with >> a little knowledge, a little love and seeing clear goal ahead. > > Indeed, but I would give Ben en co more credit th

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
This is gonna take a while... I had structs flying around as void* and was moderately happy. Nonetheless, your suggestion worked, provided I add a lot getHandle asInteger and change the void* to long :( From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] can this be done via modification to the Squeak/Pharo IDE?

2012-02-29 Thread Benjamin
Thanks guys :) Nautilus is an example of "just do something". With Stef and co, we got some ideas, some stuff that we want to experiment and then we tried. If you look, nothing is complicated or complex in Nautilus, but we got few good ideas from the beginning, goals to reach and good feedback

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yeah... sorry about that is a bug on FFI... I managed to worked around it for HPDF, for a customer's project... but of course is not a good and definitive solution. best, Esteban El 29/02/2012, a las 8:37p.m., Schwab,Wilhelm K escribió: > This is gonna take a while... I had structs flying ar

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] can this be done via modification to the Squeak/Pharo IDE?

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 28 February 2012 01:46, Lawson English wrote: > http://vimeo.com/36579366 > > Lawson > now after i found time to watch this video, i can comment on it :) Strangely enough, but i was driven by the very same idea when i first found squeak and joined community. I imagined the scene with animatio

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Guido Stepken
My first rotating cube i programmed in 1982, when i was 16. Today, Professors at Inria learn it to do from scratch. O tempora, o mores! What advance in informatics!!! B.t.w: Turbo Pascal 8086 Compiler, Editor was programmed within 3 weeks by Heilsberg, under control of a notary!!! Today, it ta

Re: [Pharo-project] leaking semaphores

2012-02-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Feb 29, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Milan Mimica wrote: > Now what do I do? What do I check? Modify RFBSocket class >> #acceptFrom: to read: ^RFBSocketInstances add: (super acceptFrom: aSocket) super new works for Socket, since it avoids calling the actual #new implementation in Socket, same is not

Re: [Pharo-project] leaking semaphores

2012-02-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Mar 1, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > Note to tracker: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5423 Cheers, Henry

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 March 2012 03:00, Guido Stepken wrote: > My first rotating cube i programmed in 1982, when i was 16. Today, > Professors at Inria learn it to do from scratch. O tempora, o mores! > > What advance in informatics!!! > > B.t.w: Turbo Pascal 8086 Compiler, Editor was programmed within 3 weeks by

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 March 2012 04:01, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 1 March 2012 03:00, Guido Stepken wrote: >> My first rotating cube i programmed in 1982, when i was 16. Today, >> Professors at Inria learn it to do from scratch. O tempora, o mores! >> >> What advance in informatics!!! btw, you can train your spe

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
What does "cannot find callback signature" mean from #signature:block:? I'm stuck. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Esteban Lorenzano [esteba...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, F

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
you need to define a signature... not at home now, but wait 'til tomorrow and I'll send an example best, Esteban El 29/02/2012, a las 11:21p.m., Schwab,Wilhelm K escribió: > What does "cannot find callback signature" mean from #signature:block:? I'm > stuck. > > > > >

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
Some good news about my demo. After updating my Lion from 10.0.2 to 10.0.3, i found that shader magically started working, allowing to enjoy the smoothing of bezier2 curves running completely on GPU.. Does anybody knows, if there any press-release of some sort, where i can find what actually was c

Re: [Pharo-project] Spoon presentation 2012-02-24

2012-02-29 Thread Craig Latta
> No, meant: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15188004/spoon > /Spoon%203%20alpha%203.zip That's a standard "all-in-one" Squeak release, the bits for all platforms are there. -C -- Craig Latta www.netjam.org/resume +31 6 2757 7177 + 1 415 287 3547

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI on 1.3: compile fields

2012-02-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
thanks! From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Esteban Lorenzano [esteba...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:18 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject

[Pharo-project] reddit link for a squeak how-to please vote

2012-02-29 Thread Lawson English
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/qcjo9/meta_howto_figuring_out_how_to_use_an Squeak is often used as a prototyping system for graduate students and professors, who are often notoriously bad at providing documentation. This video shows one of an infinite number of possible ways of us

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread chadwick
can't wait to play with this at the weekend!.. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Some good news about my demo. > After updating my Lion from 10.0.2 to 10.0.3, > i found that shader magically started working, allowing to enjoy the > smoothing of bezier2 curves running complet

Re: [Pharo-project] Spoon presentation 2012-02-24

2012-02-29 Thread Guido Stepken
People like 1-klick Images ... Setup.exe ... No raw ZIP file, no additional installation of unzip, no shell, no "cd" no ".bat" If you want to really make people try software, make it as comfortable, as possible for them. Even the 1-klick-Image of Pharo is no such one, its a 7 or 8 mousklick Image.

Re: [Pharo-project] leaking semaphores

2012-02-29 Thread Guido Stepken
Sooner or later Pharo Smalltalkers will have to read into this paper: http://www.lemis.com/grog/SMPng/USENIX/paper.ascii Why? Pharo is a OS on top of another OS. The same principles apply here. Without considering these principles or algorithms (no more or as little semaphores as possible, replac

Re: [Pharo-project] Spoon presentation 2012-02-24

2012-02-29 Thread Lawson English
On 3/1/12 12:29 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: People like 1-klick Images ... Setup.exe ... No raw ZIP file, no additional installation of unzip, no shell, no "cd" no ".bat" If you want to really make people try software, make it as comfortable, as possible for them. Even the 1-klick-Image of Phar

Re: [Pharo-project] Is athens configuration loading?

2012-02-29 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Great news. Just a couple of questions: - Where is the configuration? - What else do I need to install on Mac or on Windows? Cheers, Doru On 29 Feb 2012, at 23:34, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 1 March 2012 00:25, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> Excellent! Make our eyes blinking of ple

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

2012-02-29 Thread Guido Stepken
At minimum as Pharo demo i expect to see data coming from a mysql database or csv file, flying around as bar graph on the pharo desktop. Such simple things i had in 1986 as demo in Turbo Pascal. See FreePascal, e.g. Any platform, stable compiler, plenty of libs, blazingly fast, good community supp