Le 29/11/2012 20:52, ☈king a écrit :
Hi all. I'm extremely new to Smalltalk, but I was wondering if there was
a way to make Pharo have vi-keys (or even better, vim-keys)?
Thanks!
—☈
It's underway. The infrastructure is moving to a better (unified) way of
specifying and handling shortcuts,
There are ready to integrate issues that need to be looked at:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2q=milestone=2.0%20status=HumanReviewNeeded
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2q=milestone%3D2.0+status%3AFixReviewNeeded
- Does it make sense?
- is the code loadable?
-
My bad I thought it was for bytecode too, my memory played tricks to me.
http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel
From: Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis
theki...@yahoo.co.uk
Sent:
When we are at it... how do shortcuts in Pharo 2 currently work?
In Pharo 1.4, in the class browser, I used to hit Ctrl-F to open Find
Class, but it has no effect in Pharo 2.
2012/11/30 Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr:
Le 29/11/2012 20:52, ☈king a écrit :
Hi all. I'm extremely new to
2012/11/30 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr:
On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:55 PM, dimitris chloupis theki...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
* Framework for seamless data/object-synchronization. I suggested this a
while ago, didn't get much response. I don't blame anyone, there is not much
need for this
Le 30/11/2012 09:57, Sebastian Nozzi a écrit :
When we are at it... how do shortcuts in Pharo 2 currently work?
Ouch. I can describe what I know about key event processing, and maybe
you will understand what's happening. It will be a good exercise for me
to see if I got that stuff right.
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Issue 7072: Better pop up menu entries aligned with
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7072
Issue 7071: Fixing ManifestBrowser
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7071
Diff information:
On Nov 30, 2012, at 9:53 AM, dimitris chloupis theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
My bad I thought it was for bytecode too, my memory played tricks to me.
http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel
Yes, CompiledMethods and Classes even…
Marcus
On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/11/30 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr:
On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:55 PM, dimitris chloupis theki...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
* Framework for seamless data/object-synchronization. I suggested this a
while ago, didn't
Hi Doru,
that's great news and another sign that Glamour is very powerful. How hard
would it be to show the values for the current expression in the list of
variables? For example, while debugging the line
self doSomething: (value at: 1) with: aStream next
I would see in the list of variables
On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote:
Le 30/11/2012 09:57, Sebastian Nozzi a écrit :
When we are at it... how do shortcuts in Pharo 2 currently work?
Ouch. I can describe what I know about key event processing, and maybe you
will understand what's happening. It will be a
When I select a few lines of text in Pharo 2.0 code
editor and hit TAB it is not indented as in
other IDE's. Instead it is deleted similar to
when one hits space key.
Usually TAB in IDE code editors is used to
indent a selected block of text and SHIFT+TAB
is used for the reverse (outdent).
Is
on mac: ctrl+alt+r / l
On 30.11.2012, at 12:49, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote:
When I select a few lines of text in Pharo 2.0 code
editor and hit TAB it is not indented as in
other IDE's. Instead it is deleted similar to
when one hits space key.
Usually TAB in IDE code editors is
When I select a few lines of text in Pharo 2.0 code
editor and hit TAB it is not indented as in
other IDE's. Instead it is deleted similar to
when one hits space key.
Usually TAB in IDE code editors is used to
indent a selected block of text and SHIFT+TAB
is used for the reverse (outdent).
Thanks for the whole information!
Actually I just wanted to know the key-combination (I expressed myself
wrong), but will keep this info for future reference.
2012/11/30 Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com:
On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote:
Le 30/11/2012 09:57,
On 30.11.2012, at 13:28, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote:
When I select a few lines of text in Pharo 2.0 code
editor and hit TAB it is not indented as in
other IDE's. Instead it is deleted similar to
when one hits space key.
Usually TAB in IDE code editors is used to
indent a
on Linux and Windows alt/ctrl + r
On 30 November 2012 08:51, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote:
on mac: ctrl+alt+r / l
On 30.11.2012, at 12:49, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote:
When I select a few lines of text in Pharo 2.0 code
editor and hit TAB it is not indented as in
Thanks :).
This should not be difficult, and it's a nice idea. Next week, Andrei will
be visiting Lille, so perhaps this would be a good opportunity to play with
things :).
Cheers,
Doru
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Doru,
that's great
Tudor Girba-2 wrote
Thanks :).
This should not be difficult, and it's a nice idea. Next week, Andrei will
be visiting Lille, so perhaps this would be a good opportunity to play
with
things :).
Dolphin does something like that, showing in the debugger a list of all the
objects in
It says:
I am an abstract collection of elements with a fixed range of
integers (from 1 to n=0) as external keys.
now that leaves me clueless, why then it does not defines (introduces)
a protocol:
#at:
and
#at:put:
at least as an abstract one , i.e. subclassResponsibility
is it because they
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo
emaring...@gmail.comwrote:
It is really helpful to see what is going to be passed to a method or what
was its response.
yes, I should have added the following to the list of expressions I want to
see a value for:
self doSomething: (value
On my Mac ctrl-alt l/r produced @ and ® respectively (MBA 2011, german
keyboard).
2012/11/30 Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com:
on mac: ctrl+alt+r / l
On 30.11.2012, at 12:49, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote:
When I select a few lines of text in Pharo 2.0 code
editor and hit TAB it is not
it's actually cmd+shift+r/l
Ben
On Nov 30, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Sebastian Nozzi wrote:
On my Mac ctrl-alt l/r produced @ and ® respectively (MBA 2011, german
keyboard).
2012/11/30 Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com:
on mac: ctrl+alt+r / l
On 30.11.2012, at 12:49, Torsten Bergmann
Yep. Thank you!
2012/11/30 Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com:
it's actually cmd+shift+r/l
Ben
On Nov 30, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Sebastian Nozzi wrote:
On my Mac ctrl-alt l/r produced @ and ® respectively (MBA 2011, german
keyboard).
There is a package (for an ancester of Pharo) that added VIM keys (and
Emacs, apparently) to the editors at:
http://www.squeaksource.com/SVI.html
You may be able to load this in and it will work, or the code may have
drifted quite a bit to the point where it just doesn't work anymore. I
have not
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Issue 7078: Do not hard code Browser in Hudson Build Tools
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7078
Issue 7073: Inconsistent System Browser selection
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7073
Issue 6928: Obsolete
On 11/30/2012 02:15 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote:
It's underway. The infrastructure is moving to a better (unified) way of
specifying and handling shortcuts, and then vi and vim-keys and emacs
and others should become available.
I have a radical question that I'd like to float.
What about making
On Nov 30, 2012, at 5:41 PM, ☈king rkingd...@sharpsaw.org wrote:
On 11/30/2012 02:15 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote:
It's underway. The infrastructure is moving to a better (unified) way of
specifying and handling shortcuts, and then vi and vim-keys and emacs
and others should become available.
Hi all,
I don't post to lists often, but I thought some of you might be
interested in these few lines of code that crash the CogVM on both
Linux and Windows. File-in the Smalltalk code below, then evaluate
[nil crashCogVM]. The code uses [1-1] but it could use [1+1] or
[56+98]. I put the code
I've had strange problem with Pharo 2.0: it times out at Gofer. For
instance:
Gofer new
squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
package: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside30';
load.
Will spend the 30secs timeout then give-me a debugger window
complaining that could not connect. But network is OK
On 11/30/2012 10:48 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
I am sure the Emacs user will be violently against it.
Actually, that's the thing: Namespacing.
You could install vi keys on emacs and an emacs user would never notice
without hitting the Escape key.
Emacs keys, on the other hand, *do* conflict with
most probably https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6986
are you behind a proxy?
On 2012-11-30, at 14:13, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto
casimiro.barr...@gmail.com wrote:
I've had strange problem with Pharo 2.0: it times out at Gofer. For
instance:
Gofer new
squeaksource:
uuh nasty :), also happens under 2.0 ;)
could you open an issue on the cog issue tracker with the contents of this
email?
https://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/list
thanks
On 2012-11-30, at 14:07, Jon Anderson jonkander...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I don't post to lists often, but I thought
On 30-11-2012 15:24, Camillo Bruni wrote:
most probably https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6986
are you behind a proxy?
Yes, seems to be the problem just as reported in issues #6986
On 2012-11-30, at 14:13, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto
casimiro.barr...@gmail.com wrote:
I've
On 30 November 2012 18:27, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
uuh nasty :), also happens under 2.0 ;)
huh... unbelievable..
how such simple piece of code can do any harm? :)
could you open an issue on the cog issue tracker with the contents of this
email?
On 30 November 2012 17:48, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On Nov 30, 2012, at 5:41 PM, ☈king rkingd...@sharpsaw.org wrote:
On 11/30/2012 02:15 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote:
It's underway. The infrastructure is moving to a better (unified) way of
specifying and handling shortcuts,
interesting :) can you figure out your proxy configuration? this is very
strange :P
On 2012-11-30, at 14:33, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto
casimiro.barr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30-11-2012 15:24, Camillo Bruni wrote:
most probably https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6986
are
On 30 November 2012 18:23, ☈king rkingd...@sharpsaw.org wrote:
On 11/30/2012 10:48 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
I am sure the Emacs user will be violently against it.
Actually, that's the thing: Namespacing.
You could install vi keys on emacs and an emacs user would never notice
without hitting
On 30-11-2012 16:00, Camillo Bruni wrote:
interesting :) can you figure out your proxy configuration? this is very
strange :P
Proxy Test
This request appears to have come via a proxy.
The proxy host is *ex1.lsi.usp.br* which has ip address 143.107.161.170
The proxy server has announced
Even though I agree with your Igor , text editing is not per se required by
existing smalltalk users, though even that is debatable, introducing vim and
emacs mapping, in a completely optional state, will be definitely a motivation
for vim and emacs user to join pharo. For example if you enter
+1
--
Cheers,
Peter.
On 30 nov 2012, at 19:13, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30 November 2012 18:23, ☈king rkingd...@sharpsaw.org wrote:
On 11/30/2012 10:48 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
I am sure the Emacs user will be violently against it.
Actually, that's the thing:
thanks, Jon. Good one!
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Jon Anderson jonkander...@gmail.comwrote:
!UndefinedObject methodsFor: 'crash' stamp: 'JonKAnderson 11/29/2012
17:26'!
crashCogVM
Evaluate [
nil crashCogVM ]
| i |
i := 20.
1 to: i
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Please support the Redline project here:
http://www.indiegogo.com/smalltalk/x/1366536
YES - We are
On 11/30/2012 01:25 PM, dimitris chloupis wrote:
Both #emacs and #vim show how popular both of these text editors are,
why not pharo attract that crowd.
Another part of this is just making UIs for editing non-Smalltalk code.
If I had a good editor widget available, I could use it to make any
On 11/30/2012 12:13 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
well, what you explaining here is not just about handling keyboard
typing, but also
requires changes in UI (showing command line, black white color
scheme, 80x25 text mode ;) ) etc..
I know you're joking, but limiting one's self to 80 columns is
On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:08 PM, James Ladd james_l...@hotmail.com wrote:
Redline Smalltalk is easily deployed to Heroku, a cloud service.
So writing web apps in Smalltalk and deploying them to the could
just got a whole let easier. https://stout.herokuapp.com/
Please support the Redline
On 30 Nov 2012, at 23:06, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
And here is where shortcuts come in handy..
Igor, you are not even using Command-Enter to search for classes/methods last
time we sat together… ;-)
Like Command-Click on Class/method names, so cool and technically not keyboard
I have been using both Github/FileTree and Monticello for STON this week, and
things have definitively progressed. Thank you, Dale friends.
It does seem that I have to save a version to Github/FileTree first and then
copy it to Monticello (ss3) and not the other way around - otherwise things
On 2012-11-30, at 19:22, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
I have been using both Github/FileTree and Monticello for STON this week, and
things have definitively progressed. Thank you, Dale friends.
It does seem that I have to save a version to Github/FileTree first and then
On 30 November 2012 22:16, ☈king rkingd...@sharpsaw.org wrote:
On 11/30/2012 01:25 PM, dimitris chloupis wrote:
Both #emacs and #vim show how popular both of these text editors are,
why not pharo attract that crowd.
Another part of this is just making UIs for editing non-Smalltalk code.
If
I am one of those developers coding Java for a living, but
day-dreaming of using Smalltalk instead.
As such, the Redline project of course cought my attention and took a
look at it.
I am no authority on Redline, but I think there is some confusion here
that I could clarify.
2012/11/30 Marcus
OK, this is fixed. Thanks, Jon. The bug was that the pop of the folded
constant did not record the implicit send in the folding, hence pc mapping
was wrong. i.e. 1-1 gets folded away to 0, and the code generator marks
the result 0 as being the result of a send, but then the result gets
Hi,
Based on feedback by Norbert Hartl, Stuart Herring and Dale Hendrichs (thank
you) I improved the current STON version a bit.
http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/STON
https://github.com/svenvc/ston
Changelog:
A nasty cycle bug was fixed
Performance was improved,
On 30 November 2012 22:17, ☈king rkingd...@sharpsaw.org wrote:
On 11/30/2012 12:13 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
well, what you explaining here is not just about handling keyboard
typing, but also
requires changes in UI (showing command line, black white color
scheme, 80x25 text mode ;) ) etc..
On 30 November 2012 23:13, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 30 Nov 2012, at 23:06, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
And here is where shortcuts come in handy..
Igor, you are not even using Command-Enter to search for classes/methods last
time we sat together… ;-)
the
the bottom line is this, may I as a noob user use system browser without the
mouse , just by shortcuts ? How about the debugger and inspector ?
Personally I dont care about vim shortcuts, I am an emacs user and guess what I
dont care about emacs shortcuts as well. This why there is no way I am
On 1 December 2012 01:22, dimitris chloupis theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
the bottom line is this, may I as a noob user use system browser without the
mouse , just by shortcuts ? How about the debugger and inspector ?
Personally I dont care about vim shortcuts, I am an emacs user and guess
what
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