Re: [Pharo-users] Depending on something already in the image

2015-09-21 Thread stepharo
This is because the configurationOfGTInspector is not well done (it probably uses groups) but groups are evil :) May be damien you should depend on one of the group of GTInspector (if any). Normally we should getting Unit GTInspectorCore and a bundle GTInspector that may use by people to load

Re: [Pharo-users] externalizing Magritte descriptions and partial forms

2015-09-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 21-09-15 02:46, Peter Uhnák wrote: So far so simple... however what I don't understand: 1. What if I want to have different descriptions for the same attribute? For example in some views the email is required and in others it is not. asMagritteMorph is just the quick and dirty variant for

Re: [Pharo-users] Adding a #development version of a Git project in the catalog

2015-09-21 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi, Can you simply define symbolic version as a normal one? I think that you need a baseline with a code of your symbolic version, then you reference this baseline with the #development version and in v1_0_0 you override repository to “…pharo-jenkins:v1.0.0/src”. I think that for me that was

Re: [Pharo-users] Zn / Connection closed while waiting for data

2015-09-21 Thread Volkert
On 20.09.2015 17:13, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 20 Sep 2015, at 14:47, Volkert wrote: here mine. is the same version Then I (currently) am out of ideas. I am assuming you did all your tests from machines with the same network connection, maybe you

Re: [Pharo-users] Depending on something already in the image

2015-09-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 21-09-15 08:58, stepharo wrote: This is because the configurationOfGTInspector is not well done (it probably uses groups) but groups are evil :) Groups might be evil, but many configurations is worse :) You are depending on the wrong configurations. In Pharo 5 you need to depend on

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem Loading Roassal 2 development in Pharo 4

2015-09-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
hi! I have create the last version before the braking change: Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal2'; configurationOf: 'Roassal2'; loadVersion: '1.15’. In Pharo 4 this loads well. But the examples are not browsable… Let me know how it goes Alexandre > On

Re: [Pharo-users] Exploring Pier

2015-09-21 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
I don't know the answer but I am really interested to read it. Hernán 2015-09-21 18:44 GMT-03:00 Jimmie Houchin : > Hello, > > I am interested in learning to use Pier. I browsed the mailing list to > learn about current status and documentation. It seems to be pretty quiet

Re: [Pharo-users] Rectangle center rounding

2015-09-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Okay! Cheers, Alexandre > On Sep 21, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Any program on that front? >> > > There was no progress on this and I don't think that from

Re: [Pharo-users] Mathex first release is out.

2015-09-21 Thread Damien Cassou
Julien Delplanque writes: > - Greek letters are defined as globals: Alpha, Beta, ... instead of "polluting" the global namespace, you might want to let your users write: #alpha asMathex > * Have a preview of the compiled LaTeX code using pdflatex you launch

Re: [Pharo-users] Zn / Connection closed while waiting for data

2015-09-21 Thread Andrei Chis
Somehow I replied only to Sven. Forwarded the email. On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 21 Sep 2015, at 13:45, Andrei Chis > wrote: > > > > Hi Sven, > > > > Switching from ZdcSocketStream to SocketStream fixes the

Re: [Pharo-users] DesktopManager in Pharo 5 - Video

2015-09-21 Thread Damien Cassou
Torsten Bergmann writes: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=118=zpLY7uQnPsg great!! Good job. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

Re: [Pharo-users] externalizing Magritte descriptions and partial forms

2015-09-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 21-09-15 12:09, Peter Uhnák wrote: Thank you Stephan, I think the image is becoming much clearer. However I still don't understand how SRP applies here: Person>>asNameMagritteMorph ^(self magritteDescription select: [:each | each label = 'Name']) asMorphOn: self Surely this is

Re: [Pharo-users] Zn / Connection closed while waiting for data

2015-09-21 Thread Volkert
Switching the socket implementation works ... $./pharo Pharo.image eval "ZnNetworkingUtils default socketStreamClass: SocketStream. 'http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/raw/4063318/dji.csv' asUrl retrieveContents" 'Date,Open,High,Low,Close,Volume,Adj Close

Re: [Pharo-users] externalizing Magritte descriptions and partial forms

2015-09-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
Thank you Stephan, I think the image is becoming much clearer. However I still don't understand how SRP applies here: > Person>>asNameMagritteMorph > ^(self magritteDescription select: [:each | each label = 'Name']) > asMorphOn: self Surely this is responsibility of the tool that needs

Re: [Pharo-users] externalizing Magritte descriptions and partial forms

2015-09-21 Thread Damien Cassou
Peter Uhnák writes: > ~~~ > Person>>descriptionEmail > > ^ MAStringDescription new > label: 'Email'; > accessor: #email; > beRequired; > yourself > ~~~ to complement Stephan's answer, you can add properties

[Pharo-users] [ANN] Jenkins: query Jenkins servers from Pharo

2015-09-21 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi, just to let you know I extracted some code from the Launcher to query Jenkins servers from Pharo. With this project, you can write code like: | pillar zipArtifact | pillar := JenkinsServer pharoContributions jobs detect: [ :job | job name = 'Pillar' ]. zipArtifact :=

Re: [Pharo-users] DesktopManager in Pharo 5 - Video

2015-09-21 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Damn...so super cool that I want to use 5.0 grr On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > +1 > > Alexandre > > > > On Sep 21, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > > > The Spotter integration is really cool. > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] RTStyledLabel

2015-09-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Just tried it. Gorgeous!!! Thanks!!! Alexandre > On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > Hi, > > I've added RTStyledLabel which supports TextEmphasis. > > RTGeneralExample>>styledLabel > ~~ > | v shape el all | > v := RTView new. > (shape :=

[Pharo-users] Dr Geo: A point needs to be animated over a preexisting object?

2015-09-21 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, Here comes again. Sorry I send it from a wrong address. Forwarded Message Subject:Dr Geo: A point needs to be animated over a preexisting object? Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 20:09:29 -0500 From: Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas To: Any

Re: [Pharo-users] Mathex first release is out.

2015-09-21 Thread Ben Coman
I don't have a use right now, but this is really cool. Thanks for the announcement. cheers -ben On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:44 AM, Julien Delplanque wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm sending this mail for those who are eventually interested in the Mathex > package > I announced in a

[Pharo-users] Displaying custom Magritte view on FAMIX model

2015-09-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
Hi, I would like to build custom magritte view for a FAMIX model, however it seems that Fame/Metanool are somehow interfering with it.. Imagine a simple model (a class with an attribute): ~~~ cls := FAMIXClass new name: 'Something'. (attr := FAMIXAttribute new) name:

Re: [Pharo-users] DesktopManager in Pharo 5 - Video

2015-09-21 Thread Tudor Girba
The Spotter integration is really cool. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=118=zpLY7uQnPsg > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Re: [Pharo-users] Adding a #development version of a Git project in the catalog

2015-09-21 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 09/21/2015 06:31 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: Yuriy Tymchuk writes: Can you simply define symbolic version as a normal one? when I tried I got an error message. Metacello was trying to parse 'development' as a semantic version number You can implement

Re: [Pharo-users] Adding a #development version of a Git project in the catalog

2015-09-21 Thread Damien Cassou
Yuriy Tymchuk writes: > Can you simply define symbolic version as a normal one? when I tried I got an error message. Metacello was trying to parse 'development' as a semantic version number. > I think that you need a baseline with a code of your symbolic version, >

[Pharo-users] DesktopManager in Pharo 5 - Video

2015-09-21 Thread Torsten Bergmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=118=zpLY7uQnPsg

Re: [Pharo-users] DesktopManager in Pharo 5 - Video

2015-09-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
+1 Alexandre > On Sep 21, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > The Spotter integration is really cool. > > Cheers, > Doru > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=118=zpLY7uQnPsg > > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Zn / Connection closed while waiting for data

2015-09-21 Thread Andrei Chis
When executing " 'http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/raw/4063318/dji.csv' asUrl retrieveContents " on the same machine I also get a "Connection closed while waiting for data" depending on what network I am. On the current network, which is behind a proxy server, the following script fails with

Re: [Pharo-users] Depending on something already in the image

2015-09-21 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, GTInspector is well done :). If you only want what is in Pharo, you depend on GTInspectorCore. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:58 AM, stepharo wrote: > This is because the configurationOfGTInspector is not well done (it > probably uses groups) but groups are

Re: [Pharo-users] Zn / Connection closed while waiting for data

2015-09-21 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 11:45, Andrei Chis wrote: > > So adding #beOneShot on some networks that are behind proxies, fails the > request. Well, I was already afraid that (possibly transparent) proxies were involved. The problem is, it is simply impossible for me to

Re: [Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Andrew Glynn wrote: > > I'm not sure that those developers will ever be happy with Smallltalk. > > Unless you can do everything in VI and compile on the command line,

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem Loading Roassal 2 development in Pharo 4

2015-09-21 Thread Johan Fabry
I understand the problem, but could you update the development version so that it loads the latest version that does work in Pharo 4? Switching to Pharo 5 is not an option for me right now, and I fear the stable version of Roassal2 is much too old to be useful for me. > On Sep 21, 2015, at

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem Loading Roassal 2 development in Pharo 4

2015-09-21 Thread Tudor Girba
I do not think this is possible. The development of Roassal2 happens in Pharo 5. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Johan Fabry wrote: > Hi all, > > I cannot load Roassal2 development in Pharo 4, it’s missing the > GTExampleFinder class (full message below). I

[Pharo-users] How to read the first line of content from a Playground?

2015-09-21 Thread p...@highoctane.be
In the old workspace it was possible to ask for the first line of contents (to show it in a list). With a playground it seems harder... Lots of entries in there. Is there any short way to get that done? TIA Phil

Re: [Pharo-users] Depending on something already in the image

2015-09-21 Thread Damien Cassou
Stephan Eggermont writes: > Groups might be evil, but many configurations is worse :) > You are depending on the wrong configurations. In Pharo 5 > you need to depend on ConfigurationOfGTSpotter and > ConfigurationOfGTInspectorCore thank you. -- Damien Cassou

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem Loading Roassal 2 development in Pharo 4

2015-09-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 21-09-15 21:15, Johan Fabry wrote: Hi all, I cannot load Roassal2 development in Pharo 4, it’s missing the GTExampleFinder class (full message below). I can proceed through and still get a reasonably working version though (I guess without some examples, have not tried it as I don’t need

Re: [Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > When experienced (non-smalltalk) developers come to Pharo, they often > complain about the (perceived) lack of keyboard control. Spotter has made it > easy to open new browsers and inspectors, but navigating between all

Re: [Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 21/09/2015 20:57, Stephan Eggermont a écrit : When experienced (non-smalltalk) developers come to Pharo, they often complain about the (perceived) lack of keyboard control. Spotter has made it easy to open new browsers and inspectors, but navigating between all the open windows is still

Re: [Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Andrew Glynn wrote: > I'm not sure that those developers will ever be happy with Smallltalk. > Unless you can do everything in VI and compile on the command line, they > feel there's something wrong. Perhaps you need to widen your perspective.

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem Loading Roassal 2 development in Pharo 4

2015-09-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
> I do not think this is possible. The development of Roassal2 happens in Pharo > 5. It's missing GTExampleFinder even in Pharo5, because the development happens in Moose ;) (Unless Pharo 5 has been updated in the meantime and the problem fixed itself.) In any case, this just breaks Roassal

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem Loading Roassal 2 development in Pharo 4

2015-09-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Doru is right. Roassal2 depends on GT-Inspector to visualize views and the example finding. Currently, GT-Inspector does not load in Pharo 4. Apparently due to Rubric. Apparently, time is to move to Pharo 5. Alexandre > On Sep 21, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-users] Adding a #development version of a Git project in the catalog

2015-09-21 Thread Dale Henrichs
On 09/21/2015 10:46 AM, Dale Henrichs wrote: On 09/21/2015 06:31 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: Yuriy Tymchuk writes: Can you simply define symbolic version as a normal one? when I tried I got an error message. Metacello was trying to parse 'development' as a semantic

[Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
When experienced (non-smalltalk) developers come to Pharo, they often complain about the (perceived) lack of keyboard control. Spotter has made it easy to open new browsers and inspectors, but navigating between all the open windows is still mostly done with the mouse. What would happen if we

Re: [Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Wow!! This is impressive! Alexandre > On Sep 21, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > When experienced (non-smalltalk) developers come to Pharo, they often > complain about the (perceived) lack of keyboard control. Spotter has made it > easy to open new browsers

[Pharo-users] Problem Loading Roassal 2 development in Pharo 4

2015-09-21 Thread Johan Fabry
Hi all, I cannot load Roassal2 development in Pharo 4, it’s missing the GTExampleFinder class (full message below). I can proceed through and still get a reasonably working version though (I guess without some examples, have not tried it as I don’t need them) Would it be possible to fix the

Re: [Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread Andrew Glynn
I'm not sure that those developers will ever be happy with Smallltalk. Unless you can do everything in VI and compile on the command line, they feel there's something wrong. On September 21, 2015 08:57:21 PM Stephan Eggermont wrote: > When experienced (non-smalltalk) developers come to Pharo,

Re: [Pharo-users] How to read the first line of content from a Playground?

2015-09-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 21:54, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > In the old workspace it was possible to ask for the first line of contents > (to show it in a list). the first line of contents of what? can you share a snippet so I can understand your problem? cheers! Esteban > > With a playground

Re: [Pharo-users] Rectangle center rounding

2015-09-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > Any program on that front? > There was no progress on this and I don't think that from our (me and Jan) perspective this is even direction we should go. (Jan is probably enjoying summer so I don't know

Re: [Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 21-09-15 21:05, Andrew Glynn wrote: I'm not sure that those developers will ever be happy with Smallltalk. Unless you can do everything in VI and compile on the command line, they feel there's something wrong. To me the prototype confirms that we could create an interface that is mostly

[Pharo-users] Exploring Pier

2015-09-21 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Hello, I am interested in learning to use Pier. I browsed the mailing list to learn about current status and documentation. It seems to be pretty quiet on the mailing lists. There seems to be some activity on Smalltalkhub on Pier3. I am interested to see how well supported Pier is (is going

Re: [Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 21-09-15 21:25, Peter Uhnák wrote: This is really cool. Because even on my 24" screen I can comfortably have only couple (4) of system browser opened at once (and I am interested only in the method). The code card trick with expanded and compact view could easily be integrated in Nautilus.

Re: [Pharo-users] Rectangle center rounding

2015-09-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! Any program on that front? Alexandre > On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Jan Blizničenko wrote: > > As far as I looked, only two rounding methods are center and aboveCenter > (which has no senders in my image by the way and I do not even see purpose > of it)... all

Re: [Pharo-users] A keyboard controlled code editor, how difficult would that be?

2015-09-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 21-09-15 21:05, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Wow!! This is impressive! Alexandre Thanks. It is really nice to be able to try out some ideas that have been long at the back of my mind. Stephan