Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-28 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
well i linked to the job so people can choose the format they like pdf or html, so i see no need to change it. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:38 PM H. Hirzel wrote: > Dimitris > > Please add a direct link to the Pillar chapter on the integration server > > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-28 Thread H. Hirzel
Dimitris Please add a direct link to the Pillar chapter on the integration server https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/PillarChap/Pillar.html The current link on the Pharo books web site is broken and this seems to be the main pi

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Thanks for keep me posted about your experiments. I would like to know where the current interface doesn't suit your needs/tastes and how easy was to use/extend the tool. I think that mind mapping problem would be particularly well suited for your GUI approaches. Cheers, Offray On 26/08/17 14:5

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
mind mapping is an interest of mine too, though i never tried to make one app for it yet. Ok will see if I will go down the Grafoscopio route and will keep you posted. I was thinking using it as an in-image interface for the wiki. On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:15 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < of

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
That would be pretty interesting and yes, it is under MIT. On custom GUI's I have thought about a mind mapping interface for Grafoscopio, for presentations. I would like to stretch the tree/graph metaphor so it can make what we do with different metaphors right now on "offimatics" (writing, calcul

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Grafoscopio can display markdown files ? On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Dimitris, > > I understand your practical reasons to have Markdown over Pillar and in > fact I have advocated several of them. As I have said, Markdown ubiqui

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Dimitris, I understand your practical reasons to have Markdown over Pillar and in fact I have advocated several of them. As I have said, Markdown ubiquity for complete documentation workflows (including complete books) is similar to git ubiquity for code. Despite having other personal preferences

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Thank you for pointing me to the right direction. Because your images come from the presentation that is already linked in the wiki I do not think its necessary to further link those pages too. If you have something to add further to the documentation of Pillar I could make a separate page for Pill

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread H. Hirzel
Just realized that this diagram https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/PillarChap/figures/pillarOverview.png gives a good overview as well. Only the transformers are missing which are rather important as well. On 8/26/17, H. Hirzel

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread H. Hirzel
Thanks for creating an overview paragraph about Pillar in the file https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/contents/projects.md The three slides which given an overview of Pillar are screen shots taken from this document http://esug.org/data/ESUG2015/4%20thursday/1600-1630%20Pila

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
i linked everything else to the wiki but not these pdfs, are they hosted somewhere ? where you found them ? On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:23 PM H. Hirzel wrote: > On 8/26/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > > And > > > > Main repository: > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pier/Pillar/main/ > > And the three slides

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/26/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > And > > Main repository: > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pier/Pillar/main/ And the three slides which give a high-level overview of the Pillar system HH.

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread H. Hirzel
And Main repository: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pier/Pillar/main/ On 8/26/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > Dimitris, > > could you please add the three important Pillar links below I found > out about this week > > Tutorial > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBui

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-26 Thread H. Hirzel
Dimitris, could you please add the three important Pillar links below I found out about this week Tutorial https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/PillarChap Syntax summary http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsh

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-25 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
As I said the format is not so important for me, the reason why I chose markdown instead of pillar is because you can edit it using github web interface making it easier. The books will continue to use Pillar, because making a book is obviously a lot more sophisticated than creating a wiki that mai

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-25 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
So, we're going to have Markdown for the wiki and probably for documentation (via GitBooks)..., which is not surprising considering the vast amount of support such documentation format has and the extensions for a complete documentation toolchain and features. As I said, I think that is an importan

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/25/17, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > >> You have Netstyle/Workflow too. >> > > done > > "Why are you using markup documents to create the wiki when you could > use Github wiki itself? > > For portability?" > > good question. Yes for f

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-24 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM Stephane Ducasse wrote: > You have Netstyle/Workflow too. > done "Why are you using markup documents to create the wiki when you could use Github wiki itself? For portability?" good question. Yes for flexibility , another reason however is that Github wiki is

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-24 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Why are you using markup documents to create the wiki when you could use Github wiki itself? For portability? Esteban A. Maringolo 2017-08-24 9:59 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis : > Actually I have already done this > > https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoWiki/blob/master/contents/proje

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
You have Netstyle/Workflow too. On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Actually I have already done this > > https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoWiki/blob/master/contents/projects.md > > when he announced the project on the mailing list, but thanks for trying to >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-24 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Actually I have already done this https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoWiki/blob/master/contents/projects.md when he announced the project on the mailing list, but thanks for trying to inform me, I appreciate it. I will try to update the wiki each time something new pops up in the mail

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
Another thing to add link to https://github.com/dionisiydk/TelePharo with short description Complete toolset for remote development of Pharo images. It includes: remote playground remote browser remote debugger remote inspector remote process browser On 8/22/17, Dimitris

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-22 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
absolutely done ! https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoWiki/blob/master/contents/projects.md On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:28 PM Stephane Ducasse wrote: > You should add the script that generate the list of catalog items so > that we can update it. > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:18 PM,

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
You should add the script that generate the list of catalog items so that we can update it. On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Ok I restructured the wiki , giving it a table of contents. > > Added Pharo 6 Catalog projects > Added PettitParser2 > Added a sections for How t

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-22 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Also if someone else wants to come and port the content to asteres wiki, its just markdown with a tons of parsers for it around I am sure it will be trivial for one that understands how swiki works. Plus markdown is very simple syntax anyway. I care more about the content, if ones wants to wrap it

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-22 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Ok I restructured the wiki , giving it a table of contents. Added Pharo 6 Catalog projects Added PettitParser2 Added a sections for How tos , and a couple of them Added a news section Added a link to Grafoscopio homepage at its Catalaog section Added a wikis section with a link to Astares Pharo wi

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Yes Torsten wiki is in a very good state and very well made :) Will definitely link to it and use it as source As I said , I like to keep this as simple as possible, we are already hosted on github for documentation. A wiki there will be easier to find and easier to use and easier to maintain. O

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-21 Thread H. Hirzel
Please add the reference to the PetitParser2 book https://kursjan.github.io/petitparser2/pillar-book/build/book.html On 8/21/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > And this one produces a catalog list in markdown format > > "Produce a list of Pharo 6 catalog entries (tag: 'Pharo 6.0')" > | catalog | > catalog :

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-21 Thread H. Hirzel
And this one produces a catalog list in markdown format "Produce a list of Pharo 6 catalog entries (tag: 'Pharo 6.0')" | catalog | catalog := CatalogProvider default retrieveProjects select: [ :x | (x at: 'repositoryUrl') = 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo60/main' ]. Transc

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-21 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
In my previous company we ran Swiki served wikis for most of our customers during years of uninterrupted uptime, it has proven to be really stable, and a single image could handle lots of simultaneous users. We ended up moving to Atlassian Confluence because of a better granularity of user permiss

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-21 Thread H. Hirzel
This code snippet below gives a list of all Pharo 6.0 catalog entries CatalogProvider default retrieveProjects select: [ :x | (x at: 'repositoryUrl') = 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo60/main' ]. On 8/21/17, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > absolutely , I will add Torsten's w

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-21 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
absolutely , I will add Torsten's wonderful wiki and Grafoscopio details, keep them coming :) Anything I miss, please alert me as Hizrel just did , I want to link to anything Pharo related ,lets bring everything under one roof ;) On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:15 AM H. Hirzel wrote: > And add the ov

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-20 Thread H. Hirzel
And add the overview to Grafoscopio Aug 20, 2017 [Pharo-users] [Ann] [Grafoscopio] New release with major improvements On 8/21/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > On 8/20/17, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > .. >> >> you make any submission you want here in this thread and I will port it >> to >> wiki with co

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-20 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/20/17, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: .. > > you make any submission you want here in this thread and I will port it to > wiki with copy paste and a bit of structuring :) > Dimitris, Could you please do add a link in https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoWiki to Torsten's wiki htt

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-20 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Oh thanks for reminding me, there is no make a github account for those not familair with github / git you make any submission you want here in this thread and I will port it to wiki with copy paste and a bit of structuring :) As I said this wiki is very unofficial so anything will be accepted as

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-20 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
yeap its github only, though none stops your from forking it and sending me pull request from whatever source you want On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 4:47 PM Herby Vojčík wrote: > Stephane Ducasse wrote: > > I added some links to books and blogs. > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Dimitris C

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-20 Thread Herby Vojčík
Stephane Ducasse wrote: I added some links to books and blogs. On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: I also turned it to be published as a webpage, its can be viewed from this link https://squarebracketassociates.github.io/PharoWiki/ Seems like another github-account-

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-20 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Thanks mate :) I really appreciate it On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 at 12:25, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > I added some links to books and blogs. > > > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > > I also turned it to be published as a webpage, its can be viewed from > this > > link > >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-20 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Completely up to you , personal I love having many options. This is my wiki thus will be maintained by me. Basically it occurred to me that because I already spent time reading mailing list posts , then why not copy paste this extremely valuable posts to a wiki with some structure that is much ea

[Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-20 Thread Torsten Bergmann
>> Many seemed to like the idea of a Pharo wiki , I like it too. I created >> one, can be found here and super easy to contribute to. >> >> https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoWiki I still prefer to have one based on Smalltalk and as there never was an official one maintain my own pri

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-20 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I added some links to books and blogs. On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > I also turned it to be published as a webpage, its can be viewed from this > link > > https://squarebracketassociates.github.io/PharoWiki/ > > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:54 PM Dimitris Chloupis >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-19 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I also turned it to be published as a webpage, its can be viewed from this link https://squarebracketassociates.github.io/PharoWiki/ On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:54 PM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Many seemed to like the idea of a Pharo wiki , I like it too. I created > one, can be found here and s

[Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-19 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Many seemed to like the idea of a Pharo wiki , I like it too. I created one, can be found here and super easy to contribute to. https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoWiki Will keep this thread for alerting for important updates to wiki. Have fun :)