Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-10-03 Thread stepharo
Many of them are here, AFAIR they were Lorenzano, Polito, Peck. Paid by ESUG because we already wre convinced that databse support is important. Even with its outdated condition, ORM hasn't changed much in the past years, so current GLORP fits most of the needs, it's proven, it's tested and

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-10-03 Thread stepharo
Unfortunately, we don't have the manpower to maintain such a beast, are there many people using glorp in production? With PostgresV2? I am making a living out of two projects using GLORP+PostgresV2 since almost a year. So me, and my company, depends on it. I'd join an community driven "ORM Tas

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-22 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:53 AM, François Stephany wrote: > I have no idea how complicated this can be. I'm a bit reluctant to dive > into this if we are only 2-3 people to use Glorp in Pharo. > > Guillermo, Mariano, what was the process when you imported Glorp in the > first place? How did you ke

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-21 Thread Pierce Ng
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 03:10:13PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Now, our version was ported from (AFAIR) 7.1 and extended to allow our > drivers. Probably next time best path of porting is to make a bridge between > VW driver API and ours (but I didn’t estimated the amount of effort). Seein

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Esteban, Am 05.09.14 um 15:36 schrieb Esteban A. Maringolo: Hi, 2014-09-05 3:53 GMT-03:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de : Esteban, I disagree ;-) Am 04.09.14 um 17:09 schrieb Esteban A. Maringolo: 2014-09-04 11:18 GMT-03:00 François Stephany : Where is the best place to ask about Glorp by the wa

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Hi, 2014-09-05 3:53 GMT-03:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de : > Esteban, > I disagree ;-) > Am 04.09.14 um 17:09 schrieb Esteban A. Maringolo: >> 2014-09-04 11:18 GMT-03:00 François Stephany : >>> Where is the best place to ask about Glorp by the way? >> I wonder the same. >> The official discussion gr

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Francois wrote: >I have no idea how complicated this can be. I'm a bit reluctant to dive into >this if we are only 2-3 people to use Glorp in Pharo. It would be a worthwhile initiative because it would make collaboration much easier for other projects too. I'm interested in looking into this. I

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread François Stephany
I have no idea how complicated this can be. I'm a bit reluctant to dive into this if we are only 2-3 people to use Glorp in Pharo. Guillermo, Mariano, what was the process when you imported Glorp in the first place? How did you keep up with Glorp latest changes (From what I see in Store, developme

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Sven wrote: >Porting something cross platform is a huge amount of work, I think most of it >was basically done by hand. >This creates a huge maintenance problem of course. The same is true for >Xtreams. >Seaside seems to be able to manage this problem by being extremely careful. We now have t

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Esteban, I disagree ;-) Am 04.09.14 um 17:09 schrieb Esteban A. Maringolo: 2014-09-04 11:18 GMT-03:00 François Stephany : Where is the best place to ask about Glorp by the way? I wonder the same. The official discussion group is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/glorp-group But it is n

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread François Stephany
Yes, I guess cross dialect is not for the faint of heart. I feel like fixing bugs and improving stuff for pharo is the best way to diverge from the original project. Grumpf. On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 04 Sep 2014, at 16:18, François Stephany > wrote

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 04 Sep 2014, at 16:18, François Stephany wrote: > Ok. Is there a process somewhere on how to convert VW code to Pharo? Just > load it would already be cool. Glorp is pretty big and complex. Porting something cross platform is a huge amount of work, I think most of it was basically done by

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-09-04 11:18 GMT-03:00 François Stephany : >> >> What is the relation between the glorp we have with the VW version? >> > Outdated, according to Alan Knight in response to a bug I reported. >> > The truth is no one knows. >> not entirely true. >> we know that is outdated :) >> Now, our version

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread François Stephany
> >> What is the relation between the glorp we have with the VW version? > > > > Outdated, according to Alan Knight in response to a bug I reported. > > The truth is no one knows. > not entirely true. > we know that is outdated :) > Now, our version was ported from (AFAIR) 7.1 and extended to allow

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 04 Sep 2014, at 15:01, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > 2014-09-04 9:35 GMT-03:00 François Stephany : >> We are tempted to give Glorp a try. >> >> We've loaded version 1.7 from the configuration browser and the simple >> things we've tested so far seem to work fine with the PostgresV2 driver. >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-09-04 9:35 GMT-03:00 François Stephany : > We are tempted to give Glorp a try. > > We've loaded version 1.7 from the configuration browser and the simple > things we've tested so far seem to work fine with the PostgresV2 driver. > > What is the relation between the glorp we have with the VW ve

[Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread François Stephany
We are tempted to give Glorp a try. We've loaded version 1.7 from the configuration browser and the simple things we've tested so far seem to work fine with the PostgresV2 driver. What is the relation between the glorp we have with the VW version? Are the two merged often? Unfortunately, we don't