Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-10-03 Thread stepharo
Unfortunately, we don't have the manpower to maintain such a beast, are there many people using glorp in production? With PostgresV2? I am making a living out of two projects using GLORP+PostgresV2 since almost a year. So me, and my company, depends on it. I'd join an community driven ORM

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-10-03 Thread stepharo
Many of them are here, AFAIR they were Lorenzano, Polito, Peck. Paid by ESUG because we already wre convinced that databse support is important. Even with its outdated condition, ORM hasn't changed much in the past years, so current GLORP fits most of the needs, it's proven, it's tested

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-22 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:53 AM, François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com wrote: I have no idea how complicated this can be. I'm a bit reluctant to dive into this if we are only 2-3 people to use Glorp in Pharo. Guillermo, Mariano, what was the process when you imported Glorp in the first

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-21 Thread Pierce Ng
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 03:10:13PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: Now, our version was ported from (AFAIR) 7.1 and extended to allow our drivers. Probably next time best path of porting is to make a bridge between VW driver API and ours (but I didn’t estimated the amount of effort). Seeing

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Esteban, I disagree ;-) Am 04.09.14 um 17:09 schrieb Esteban A. Maringolo: 2014-09-04 11:18 GMT-03:00 François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com: Where is the best place to ask about Glorp by the way? I wonder the same. The official discussion group is

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Sven wrote: Porting something cross platform is a huge amount of work, I think most of it was basically done by hand. This creates a huge maintenance problem of course. The same is true for Xtreams. Seaside seems to be able to manage this problem by being extremely careful. We now have the

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread François Stephany
I have no idea how complicated this can be. I'm a bit reluctant to dive into this if we are only 2-3 people to use Glorp in Pharo. Guillermo, Mariano, what was the process when you imported Glorp in the first place? How did you keep up with Glorp latest changes (From what I see in Store,

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Francois wrote: I have no idea how complicated this can be. I'm a bit reluctant to dive into this if we are only 2-3 people to use Glorp in Pharo. It would be a worthwhile initiative because it would make collaboration much easier for other projects too. I'm interested in looking into this. I

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Hi, 2014-09-05 3:53 GMT-03:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de jtuc...@objektfabrik.de: Esteban, I disagree ;-) Am 04.09.14 um 17:09 schrieb Esteban A. Maringolo: 2014-09-04 11:18 GMT-03:00 François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com: Where is the best place to ask about Glorp by the way? I wonder

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-05 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Esteban, Am 05.09.14 um 15:36 schrieb Esteban A. Maringolo: Hi, 2014-09-05 3:53 GMT-03:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de jtuc...@objektfabrik.de: Esteban, I disagree ;-) Am 04.09.14 um 17:09 schrieb Esteban A. Maringolo: 2014-09-04 11:18 GMT-03:00 François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com:

[Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread François Stephany
We are tempted to give Glorp a try. We've loaded version 1.7 from the configuration browser and the simple things we've tested so far seem to work fine with the PostgresV2 driver. What is the relation between the glorp we have with the VW version? Are the two merged often? Unfortunately, we

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-09-04 9:35 GMT-03:00 François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com: We are tempted to give Glorp a try. We've loaded version 1.7 from the configuration browser and the simple things we've tested so far seem to work fine with the PostgresV2 driver. What is the relation between the glorp we

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 04 Sep 2014, at 15:01, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-09-04 9:35 GMT-03:00 François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com: We are tempted to give Glorp a try. We've loaded version 1.7 from the configuration browser and the simple things we've tested so far seem to

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread François Stephany
What is the relation between the glorp we have with the VW version? Outdated, according to Alan Knight in response to a bug I reported. The truth is no one knows. not entirely true. we know that is outdated :) Now, our version was ported from (AFAIR) 7.1 and extended to allow our

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-09-04 11:18 GMT-03:00 François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com: What is the relation between the glorp we have with the VW version? Outdated, according to Alan Knight in response to a bug I reported. The truth is no one knows. not entirely true. we know that is outdated :) Now,

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 04 Sep 2014, at 16:18, François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. Is there a process somewhere on how to convert VW code to Pharo? Just load it would already be cool. Glorp is pretty big and complex. Porting something cross platform is a huge amount of work, I think most of

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 - VisualWorks

2014-09-04 Thread François Stephany
Yes, I guess cross dialect is not for the faint of heart. I feel like fixing bugs and improving stuff for pharo is the best way to diverge from the original project. Grumpf. On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 04 Sep 2014, at 16:18, François