[PHP-DOC] Re: Russian translation

2010-10-04 Thread Alexey Shein
2010/10/5 Simion Onea : > Greetings, Alexey! > Yes, it's definitely ok to contact Antony Dovgal directly. But he > should have seen your message sent to the mailing list. Maybe he is > away for the moment. > If you still don't receive any replies from other translators, you can > start working on t

Re: [PHP-DOC] Russian translation

2010-10-04 Thread Simion Onea
2010/10/4 Alexey Shein : > Hello again! > Thanks for answering, Simion. You were right, ru/translation.xml > contains exactly this address (doc...@lists.php.net). I wrote there 4 > days ago, but still nobody answers. Should I contact directly the > maintainer, Antony Dovgal? > Another problem is th

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: >    I'm of the opinion that we should license all > machine-interpretable examples (i.e. - "code snippets") in both the > official documentation usage examples and user-submitted examples > alike - including those from the mailing lists and arch

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 13:35, Robinson Tryon wrote: > > If The PHP Doc Group believes that the CC-BY provides a framework > under which a simple attribution line like that is sufficient, then I > suggest they grease the wheels and calm the lawyers by clarifying it > with an explicit, very permissi

Re: [PHP-DOC] Russian translation

2010-10-04 Thread Alexey Shein
Hello again! Thanks for answering, Simion. You were right, ru/translation.xml contains exactly this address (doc...@lists.php.net). I wrote there 4 days ago, but still nobody answers. Should I contact directly the maintainer, Antony Dovgal? Another problem is that russian manual doesn't compile at

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Brandon Savage wrote: > > The CC-BY license states [...some things...] > ... > This is the provision from which I derived that fair use avoids infringement > even if credit is not given. (IANAL) but it's entirely possible that a Fair Use defense would be successful

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 16:06, Jesus M. Castagnetto wrote: > Pardon this old doc dinosaur for meddling in this thread, just a couple of > comments: > - IIRC there was never a "notes group" as such. It was mainly a mailing > list, some code we hacked and some rules of thumb, and whoever had the time

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Brandon Savage
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:08, Robinson Tryon > wrote: > > It shouldn't take too long to fix this -- I'd just add a note in the > > documentation section of the PHP license page along the lines of "All > > example code in the PHP manual, i

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Jesus M. Castagnetto
Pardon this old doc dinosaur for meddling in this thread, just a couple of comments: - IIRC there was never a "notes group" as such. It was mainly a mailing list, some code we hacked and some rules of thumb, and whoever had the time will chip in ad do some notes housekeeping once in a while. Ergo,

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Brandon Savage
> > The "snippet's owner(s)" is the PHP Documentation Group. > The CC-BY license has this explicit notice (in human readable terms): > "Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by > the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they > endorse you or your use

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > > Actually, when adding a use contributor note the note becomes > 'property of the PHP Documentation Group' > > See http://no.php.net/manual/add-note.php > "This means that any note submitted here becomes the property of the > PHP Documenta

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 03:56, Adam Harvey wrote: > On 3 October 2010 08:43, Robinson Tryon wrote: >> Is there >> any chance that the code examples in the manual are also available >> under a different license as well? > > As you've seen on the licensing page, the manual — including the code > exa

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:08, Robinson Tryon wrote: > It shouldn't take too long to fix this -- I'd just add a note in the > documentation section of the PHP license page along the lines of "All > example code in the PHP manual, including user notes, are additionally > available under the terms of

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 15:43, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > As for the manual text itself, that attribution note was intentional > choice by us when we changed the license couple of hours ago. s/hours/years :P -Hannes

Re: [PHP-DOC] License for code examples in the PHP manual?

2010-10-04 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 14:15, Brandon Savage wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:08, Robinson Tryon >> wrote: >> > It shouldn't take too long to fix this -- I'd just add a note in the >> > documentation section of the PHP license pag