Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread Nate Graham
On 11/8/23 10:14, Nate Graham wrote: On 11/8/23 09:37, David Edmundson wrote: If folks agree, I can do that. Do it, but given it's an cross-repo change lets do it after alpha rather than rushing. Ack, will do. Nate The alpha has been tarred, so I've gone ahead and done this. ShadowedLabe

Re: Applet config dialog changes

2023-11-08 Thread Nate Graham
I recall that we decided in yesterday's Plasma meeting to do it. Now that the Alpha is tarred, we can get started and will have three weeks to port everything before the first Beta/ Nate On 11/4/23 05:57, Nicolas Fella wrote: Hi, I have an open MR that changes how applet's config UI integr

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread Nate Graham
On 11/8/23 09:37, David Edmundson wrote: If folks agree, I can do that. Do it, but given it's an cross-repo change lets do it after alpha rather than rushing. Ack, will do. Nate

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread Scarlett Moore
On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 9:41 AM Nicolas Fella wrote: > > On 11/8/23 17:11, Scarlett Moore wrote: > > While I have everyone's attention. The part that is getting me ( and > > our linters ) is qml installation paths seem all over the place > > For example plasma-framework we have > > > > org.kde.plas

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread Scarlett Moore
While I have everyone's attention. The part that is getting me ( and our linters ) is qml installation paths seem all over the place For example plasma-framework we have org.kde.plasma.plasmoids which I read in the docs is "identified" qml which states it must be installed into the QML import pat

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread Scarlett Moore
I apologize for the header. I have been struggling with QML and a bit frustrated from a packager point of view. It very well may be a bug in our build system. I appreciate all the input thus far. Scarlett On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 4:48 AM David Redondo wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 8. November 2023, 12:22

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread Nicolas Fella
On 11/8/23 17:11, Scarlett Moore wrote: While I have everyone's attention. The part that is getting me ( and our linters ) is qml installation paths seem all over the place For example plasma-framework we have org.kde.plasma.plasmoids which I read in the docs is "identified" qml which states it

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread David Edmundson
> If folks agree, I can do that. Do it, but given it's an cross-repo change lets do it after alpha rather than rushing. David

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread Nate Graham
On 11/8/23 05:08, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: Hi, that ShadowedLabel is literally one QML file with a Label and a DropShadow. KWin could just not use that (and build its own) and we’d resolve the issue. It's a small component, but it exists to ensure visual consistency between all the different

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread Heiko Becker
On Wednesday, 8 November 2023 12:48:32 CET, David Redondo wrote: So the situation right now is that plasma-workspace build depends on KWin and KWin has a runtime dependency on plasma-workspace. I think it's not a full cycle since installing plasma-workspace does not need anything from KWin

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
Hi, that ShadowedLabel is literally one QML file with a Label and a DropShadow. KWin could just not use that (and build its own) and we’d resolve the issue. Cheers Kai Uwe From what I am seeing this patch causes KWin to import a qml module that lives in plasma-workspace import org.kde.plas

Re: QML: a packagers nightmare. Assistance please.

2023-11-08 Thread David Redondo
Am Mittwoch, 8. November 2023, 12:22:33 CET schrieb Scarlett Moore: > Hi everyone, > As we progress through the Qt6 transition I have been trying to keep > up on our QML dependencies and I keep tripping over circular > dependency nightmare. We switched to a mega package format which > includes qml

Re: plasma-framework

2023-11-07 Thread Nicolas Fella
other ones too. kwayland is the 4th one being moved, it has been re-versioned but not yet moved in invent. Let's not do anything to plasma-framework until after the alpha to avoid stiring things up yet again. We have plenty of time to do it before the beta/rc

Re: plasma-framework

2023-11-07 Thread Ben Cooksley
ugh I'm not sure who has the energy to do it. I suppose we'll > also remove the KF terms from the other ones too. > Are you talking about renaming the CMake/Binary side or the repository/tarball side here? > > kwayland is the 4th one being moved, it has been re-versioned but not yet > moved in invent. > > Jonathan > Cheers, Ben

Re: plasma-framework

2023-11-07 Thread Jonathan Esk-Riddell
too. kwayland is the 4th one being moved, it has been re-versioned but not yet moved in invent. Jonathan

Re: git-repositories-for-release

2023-11-07 Thread Jonathan Riddell
That's on my todo for today :) Jonathan On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 21:55, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 11:21 AM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > > Diff from 5.27 > > -aura-browser > > -aura-browser > > +kactivities > > +kactivities-stats > > -khotkeys > > -krdp > > +kwayland > > -plank-

Re: git-repositories-for-release

2023-11-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 11:21 AM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > Diff from 5.27 > -aura-browser > -aura-browser > +kactivities > +kactivities-stats > -khotkeys > -krdp > +kwayland > -plank-player > -plank-player > -plasma-bigscreen > +plasma-framework > -plasma-remotecontrollers > +plasma5support > +pr

Re: git-repositories-for-release

2023-11-06 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Good point, I've added in kglobalacceld now Jonathan On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 17:51, Antonio Rojas wrote: > El lunes, 6 de noviembre de 2023 17:21:06 (CET) Jonathan Riddell escribió: > > > Diff from 5.27 > > Hi, > > What about kglobalacceld? > > > > >

Re: Plasma meeting 2023-11-06

2023-11-06 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 5:16 AM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > FsetPositionButton.checkedreeze dates > > Soft Freeze 1 week before Beta 1, 22nd November 2023 > Hard Freeze at Beta 1, 29 Nov 2023 > > Freeze policy: > We are not sure where we want to go with activitise and we have moved > them into P

Re: git-repositories-for-release

2023-11-06 Thread Antonio Rojas
El lunes, 6 de noviembre de 2023 17:21:06 (CET) Jonathan Riddell escribió: > Diff from 5.27 Hi, What about kglobalacceld?

Re: plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now

2023-11-05 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
Hi, +1 to what Carl said. Right now my Elisa barely needs any time to read my music library, presumably because Baloo already has it indexed. It'll be quite a shame if apps did their own indexing, wasting time and power. The effects (of removing Baloo support) are even more pronounced if we consi

Re: plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now

2023-11-05 Thread Carl Schwan
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 6:01:38 PM CET Nate Graham wrote: > On 11/5/23 07:42, Kevin Ottens wrote: > > I was clumsily advocating for this Akademy 2021 or 2022 (can't remember > > which). > > > > This way it's clearer to application authors when they tie themselves to a > > given workspace or no

Re: Move krunner also to plasma bundle?

2023-11-05 Thread Alexander Lohnau
Heyho, I discussed with David Edmundson that it might be a good idea to move the milou QML bits to plasma-workspace. That allows easier codesharing for some KFileItemActions integrations that Kai (and I in an abandoned patch) have been working on. Though, this has the same issues regarding the KW

Re: plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now

2023-11-05 Thread christoph
On 2023-11-05 18:01, Nate Graham wrote: On 11/5/23 07:42, Kevin Ottens wrote: I was clumsily advocating for this Akademy 2021 or 2022 (can't remember which). This way it's clearer to application authors when they tie themselves to a given workspace or not. Also, isn't Elisa able to work wit

Re: Move krunner also to plasma bundle?

2023-11-05 Thread Nate Graham
On 11/5/23 10:12, Nate Graham wrote:> +1, it's an integral part of Plasma and I would support moving it there. And Milou is already there. For that matter, I'd also support moving both Milou and what's currently in the KRunner framework just into plasma-workspace for simplicity since it's a requ

Re: Move krunner also to plasma bundle?

2023-11-05 Thread Nate Graham
On 11/5/23 07:43, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: While at it: would KRunner not also be a good candidate to bundle with Plasma instead of KF? (to repeat some old record :P) AFAIK the only programs hosting KRunner plugins are Plasma ones, everyone else just provides plugins. So similar to Plas

Re: plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now

2023-11-05 Thread Nate Graham
On 11/5/23 07:42, Kevin Ottens wrote: I was clumsily advocating for this Akademy 2021 or 2022 (can't remember which). This way it's clearer to application authors when they tie themselves to a given workspace or not. Also, isn't Elisa able to work without Baloo? It even seems to do the right th

Move krunner also to plasma bundle? (was: Re: plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now)

2023-11-05 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Am Sonntag, 5. November 2023, 15:32:21 CET schrieb christ...@cullmann.io: > On 2023-11-05 15:11, Nate Graham wrote: > > On 11/5/23 07:09, christ...@cullmann.io wrote: > >> if we are atm moving stuff, might it make sense to move Baloo, too, > >> given it only > >> is usable with the daemon inside Pl

Re: plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now

2023-11-05 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Sunday, 5 November 2023 15:32:21 CET christ...@cullmann.io wrote: > On 2023-11-05 15:11, Nate Graham wrote: > > Baloo is linked by some apps, e.g. Elisa, and I wouldn't like to make > > them haul in Plasma stuff. > > some applications link to kactivities, too. > I think it just makes it

Re: plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now

2023-11-05 Thread christoph
On 2023-11-05 15:11, Nate Graham wrote: On 11/5/23 07:09, christ...@cullmann.io wrote: On 2023-11-05 12:59, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: Hi, with plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities entering the Plasma product bundle, I assume they also will adapt to Plasma versioning. Hi, if

Re: plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now

2023-11-05 Thread Nate Graham
On 11/5/23 07:09, christ...@cullmann.io wrote: On 2023-11-05 12:59, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: Hi, with plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities entering the Plasma product bundle, I assume they also will adapt to Plasma versioning. Hi, if we are atm moving stuff, might it make s

Re: plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now

2023-11-05 Thread christoph
On 2023-11-05 12:59, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: Hi, with plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities entering the Plasma product bundle, I assume they also will adapt to Plasma versioning. Hi, if we are atm moving stuff, might it make sense to move Baloo, too, given it only is usab

Re: PAM configuration changes needed for new KScreenLocker feature in Plasma 6

2023-11-04 Thread David Edmundson
We can definitely ship the files. We used to. I'm surprised we need to ship the stock "kde" file, in theory it should roll back to a stock file. As per the docs: > The service_name argument specifies the name of the service to apply and will be stored as PAM_SERVICE item in the new c

Re: PAM configuration changes needed for new KScreenLocker feature in Plasma 6

2023-11-03 Thread Jonathan Riddell
GDM ships these PAM files itself, how come we're not doing the same? This reminds me, what happened to the idea of us shipping an SDDM fork? Do we need an SDDM release for the MegaReleases? Jonathan On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 16:35, Nate Graham wrote: > Hello distro packagers! > > This is a head

Re: print-manager and wacomtablet to Plasma

2023-11-02 Thread Nate Graham
On 11/2/23 17:39, Albert Astals Cid wrote: It's true that print-manager is mainly a plasmoid/kded/kcm so if Plasma folks want to adopt it, I'm not against it, please propose a MR like https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/release-tools/-/merge_requests/39/diffs (but in reverse) Done, see https://inve

Re: print-manager and wacomtablet to Plasma

2023-11-02 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El dimecres, 1 de novembre de 2023, a les 1:10:55 (CET), Nate Graham va escriure: > On 10/31/23 17:28, Nicolas Fella wrote: > > On 10/31/23 23:23, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > >> El dimarts, 31 d’octubre de 2023, a les 20:43:47 (CET), Jonathan > >> Riddell va > >> > >> escriure: > >>> As discuccsed

Re: print-manager and wacomtablet to Plasma

2023-11-02 Thread Josh
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 8:44 AM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > As discuccsed in Plasma meeting and just now with KDE gear release spods, > > Plasma would like to take over releases of print-manager and wacomtablet. > > This means renumbering the tars from e.g. 23.08 to 5.80.0. > > Isn't this going

Re: Plasma 6 Alpha Meeting chat

2023-11-01 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Is everyone OK with freezing hard this month? Jonathan On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 21:26, Nate Graham wrote: > Soft freeze is at the alpha, hard freeze is at the beta. Basically how > we've done it for the past year or two, except that the soft freeze > coincides with the alpha (which we generally d

Re: Plasma 6 Alpha Meeting chat

2023-11-01 Thread Nate Graham
Soft freeze is at the alpha, hard freeze is at the beta. Basically how we've done it for the past year or two, except that the soft freeze coincides with the alpha (which we generally don't have) rather than just being a few weeks before the hard freeze. Nate On 11/1/23 15:23, Jonathan Ridde

Re: Plasma 6 Alpha Meeting chat

2023-11-01 Thread Jonathan Riddell
> > My sense is we had general consensus that merge requests for new > features which are already in flight and in an advanced state can be > merged after the soft feature freeze, but before the hard feature > freeze. But no new merge requests for Plasma 6.0 features can be opened > after the soft

Re: Plasma 6 Alpha Meeting chat

2023-11-01 Thread Nate Graham
On 10/31/23 14:19, Jonathan Riddell wrote: On the issue of Feature Freeze we didn't get to unity.  Alpha is next week.  Beta is end of November.  Release candidate is January and final release end of February.  We discussed when a soft and hard feature freeze should be in those. We decided to m

Re: Taking on maintenance of Latte Dock

2023-11-01 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Hi Lana, do you need any help with this? Jonathan On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 at 22:04, Lana Black wrote: > Hello list, > > I tried poking various people on IRC and what not about this, but nobody > pointed me in the right direction, so I'm here. > I'm willing to take on maintenance of Latte, because

Re: print-manager and wacomtablet to Plasma

2023-11-01 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 8:44 AM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > As discuccsed in Plasma meeting and just now with KDE gear release spods, > Plasma would like to take over releases of print-manager and wacomtablet. > This means renumbering the tars from e.g. 23.08 to 5.80.0. > Isn't this going to cause

Re: print-manager and wacomtablet to Plasma

2023-10-31 Thread Nate Graham
On 10/31/23 17:28, Nicolas Fella wrote: On 10/31/23 23:23, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El dimarts, 31 d’octubre de 2023, a les 20:43:47 (CET), Jonathan Riddell va escriure: As discuccsed in Plasma meeting and just now with KDE gear release spods, Plasma would like to take over releases of print-m

Re: print-manager and wacomtablet to Plasma

2023-10-31 Thread Nicolas Fella
On 11/1/23 00:28, Nicolas Fella wrote: On 10/31/23 23:23, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El dimarts, 31 d’octubre de 2023, a les 20:43:47 (CET), Jonathan Riddell va escriure: As discuccsed in Plasma meeting and just now with KDE gear release spods, Plasma would like to take over releases of print-man

Re: print-manager and wacomtablet to Plasma

2023-10-31 Thread Nicolas Fella
On 10/31/23 23:23, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El dimarts, 31 d’octubre de 2023, a les 20:43:47 (CET), Jonathan Riddell va escriure: As discuccsed in Plasma meeting and just now with KDE gear release spods, Plasma would like to take over releases of print-manager and wacomtablet. This means renumbe

Re: print-manager and wacomtablet to Plasma

2023-10-31 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El dimarts, 31 d’octubre de 2023, a les 20:43:47 (CET), Jonathan Riddell va escriure: > As discuccsed in Plasma meeting and just now with KDE gear release spods, > Plasma would like to take over releases of print-manager and wacomtablet. > This means renumbering the tars from e.g. 23.08 to 5.80.0.

Re: Plasma 6 alpha modules list

2023-10-30 Thread David Redondo
Am Freitag, 27. Oktober 2023, 17:39:22 CET schrieb Jonathan Riddell: > kwayland-integration - drop No, it is needed for Qt5 apps. David

Re: Plasma 6 alpha modules list

2023-10-30 Thread Marco Martin
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 9:30 PM Nicolas Fella wrote: > > In https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2023-June/013081.html I > proposed to move print-manager and wacomtablet from Gear to Plasma. > Nobody objected so I guess we can move forward with this? yesplease <3 -- Marco Martin

Re: First round of feedback from Fedora 40 KDE Plasma 6 (Wayland-only) discussion

2023-10-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 8:11 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:53 AM Niels De Graef wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Thanks Neal for including me! > > > > Thanks for joining in the conversation! > > > (For the people who don't know me, I work for Red Hat as the product > > own

Re: Plasma 6 alpha modules list

2023-10-28 Thread Nicolas Fella
In https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2023-June/013081.html I proposed to move print-manager and wacomtablet from Gear to Plasma. Nobody objected so I guess we can move forward with this? On 10/27/23 17:39, Jonathan Riddell wrote: 12 days to go until the first alpha release, it's time t

Re: Plasma 6 alpha modules list

2023-10-27 Thread Ismael Asensio
Hi Jonathan. The repo ocean-sound-theme needs to be included into the plasma release repos. Sorry if I overlooked it. El vie., 27 oct. 2023 17:39, Jonathan Riddell escribió: > 12 days to go until the first alpha release, it's time to work out some > details. > > set(PROJECT_VERSION_MAJOR 5) sh

Re: Taking on maintenance of Latte Dock

2023-10-17 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Yeah that would be great if you have the skills to take over. You'll need to know QML and lots of quite specialist knowledge about the internals of how Plasma works. There should be people happy to help and I see some good discussion on the merge request you made but it is quite specialist so you

Re: Taking on maintenance of Latte Dock

2023-10-16 Thread Marco Martin
Hi Lana, thanks for volunteering on taking on this project! And yes, you should get a developer account, see https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Get_a_Developer_Account On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 11:04 PM Lana Black wrote: > > Hello list, > > I tried poking various people on IRC and what not a

Re: Latte Dock Farewell

2023-10-16 Thread Lana Black
On Monday, 16 October 2023 04:33:12 UTC Carl Schwan wrote: > Someone is trying to step up. See > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/latte-dock/-/merge_requests/46/ > > > We probably should try to support them, instead of shutting down

Re: Latte Dock Farewell

2023-10-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 6:33 AM Carl Schwan wrote: > > Someone is trying to step up. See > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/latte-dock/-/merge_requests/46/ > > We probably should try to support them, instead of shutting down the project. > Cheers, > Carl Agree, let's see how this goes, i'm hopeful

Re: Latte Dock Farewell

2023-10-15 Thread Carl Schwan
Someone is trying to step up. See https://invent.kde.org/plasma/latte-dock/-/merge_requests/46/ We probably should try to support them, instead of shutting down the project. Cheers, Carl On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Jonat

Re: Latte Dock Farewell

2023-10-13 Thread Jonathan Riddell
A year later nobody has stepped up to help maintain this. As I understand it's not a case of simply switching to KF6 but using various internal and private APIs are need closely tracked. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'd like to propose to archive this project for now until a maintainer is found. J

Re: kde-gtk-config Plasma/5.27 build failure

2023-10-05 Thread Fusion Future
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kde-gtk-config/-/merge_requests/94 should fix it. Sorry for not checking GLib version beforehand.

Re: MegaRelease Freezes - Re: Release schedule proposal for the February MegaRelease

2023-10-02 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 12:29 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > El dimarts, 26 de setembre de 2023, a les 0:28:15 (CEST), Albert Astals Cid va > escriure: > > https://community.kde.org/Schedules/February_2024_MegaRelease > > > > Beta 1 is during Qt World Summit that is not ideal but I guess doable?

Re: Include the names of fundraising donors into Plasma 6 somewhere

2023-09-24 Thread Nate Graham
I agree that Paul that what's being proposed doesn't seem unprofessional and the funds raised here are necessary, not extra. But I think we can easily satisfy both parties: we'll have a link or button on Plasma Welcome's Donate page that lets you see prior donors who donated for this fundraiser

Re: First round of feedback from Fedora 40 KDE Plasma 6 (Wayland-only) discussion

2023-09-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:53 AM Niels De Graef wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Thanks Neal for including me! > Thanks for joining in the conversation! > (For the people who don't know me, I work for Red Hat as the product > owner in the GPU team, which has maintained (and some time ago > deprecated)

Re: First round of feedback from Fedora 40 KDE Plasma 6 (Wayland-only) discussion

2023-09-24 Thread Niels De Graef
Hi everyone, Thanks Neal for including me! (For the people who don't know me, I work for Red Hat as the product owner in the GPU team, which has maintained (and some time ago deprecated) Xorg, as well as maitning other graphics APIs such as Wayland, OpenGL, Vulkan etc. I'm also a GNOME contributo

Re: Include the names of fundraising donors into Plasma 6 somewhere

2023-09-21 Thread Paul Brown
It seems I have lost David's email in the internets, but I can see it in the Archive, so I will copy it here to contextualise my reply: > I would be strongly opposed to having it somewhere the user hasn't > explicitly opened, like the first-run wizard. It's more important that > we come across as

Re: Include the names of fundraising donors into Plasma 6 somewhere

2023-09-21 Thread David Edmundson
I would be strongly opposed to having it somewhere the user hasn't explicitly opened, like the first-run wizard. It's more important that we come across as a product that's on par with a commercial offering than raise the extra cash. Having a set of names appear when you click the donate button wo

Re: First round of feedback from Fedora 40 KDE Plasma 6 (Wayland-only) discussion

2023-09-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 8:42 AM David Edmundson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 5:45 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > me of them, I've got ideas, others less so. > > > > The first thing that came up was that KiCad seems to need help and has > > had a bad experience interfacing with some folks over resol

Re: First round of feedback from Fedora 40 KDE Plasma 6 (Wayland-only) discussion

2023-09-18 Thread David Edmundson
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 5:45 AM Neal Gompa wrote: me of them, I've got ideas, others less so. > > The first thing that came up was that KiCad seems to need help and has > had a bad experience interfacing with some folks over resolving their > issues moving into a Wayland world. Given I'm quoted,

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-10 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El diumenge, 10 de setembre de 2023, a les 19:50:48 (CEST), christ...@cullmann.io va escriure: > On 2023-09-09 13:57, Luigi Toscano wrote: > Hi, > > yes, good point. > > Just a technical question: if we do this after that period, what is > the process to do it for a

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-10 Thread christoph
On 2023-09-09 13:57, Luigi Toscano wrote: Hi, yes, good point. Just a technical question: if we do this after that period, what is the process to do it for an application belonging to Gear? Will it just be sufficient e.g. for Kate to drop the Qt 5 variants in https://invent.kde.org/utilitie

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-09 Thread Luigi Toscano
christ...@cullmann.io ha scritto: > On 2023-09-05 23:08, Albert Astals Cid wrote: >> El dimarts, 5 de setembre de 2023, a les 22:42:13 (CEST), >> christ...@cullmann.io va escriure: >>> On 2023-09-04 22:59, Albert Astals Cid wrote: >>> > El dilluns, 4 de setembre de 2023, a les 18:50:45 (CEST), Davi

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-09 Thread christoph
On 2023-09-05 23:08, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El dimarts, 5 de setembre de 2023, a les 22:42:13 (CEST), christ...@cullmann.io va escriure: On 2023-09-04 22:59, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El dilluns, 4 de setembre de 2023, a les 18:50:45 (CEST), David > Edmundson va > > escriure: >> Following on

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-09 Thread christoph
On 2023-09-04 22:59, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El dilluns, 4 de setembre de 2023, a les 18:50:45 (CEST), David Edmundson va escriure: Following on from the last Akademy we checked where we were with our development progress in a meeting and settled on the following plan for all 3 major parts:

Re: Fav icon

2023-09-05 Thread Nate Graham
Hello Cyax, Thanks for the suggestion! In general, formal feature requests or design change requests belong in https://bugs/kde.org, while design suggestions you'd like to share for discussion can be brought up with KDE's VDG group; see https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/design. I'll le

Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-09-05 Thread Nate Graham
Yes, I botched the communication on this, my apologies about that. Voting has now been disabled on Bugzilla. We are investigating ways to make the CC count affect the bug janitor's automatic priority categorization in its stead. Nate On 9/3/23 15:45, Elvis Stansvik wrote: I noticed today

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-05 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El dimarts, 5 de setembre de 2023, a les 22:42:13 (CEST), christ...@cullmann.io va escriure: > On 2023-09-04 22:59, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > El dilluns, 4 de setembre de 2023, a les 18:50:45 (CEST), David > > Edmundson va > > > > escriure: > >> Following on from the last Akademy we checked wh

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-04 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El dilluns, 4 de setembre de 2023, a les 18:50:45 (CEST), David Edmundson va escriure: > Following on from the last Akademy we checked where we were with our > development progress in a meeting and settled on the following plan > for all 3 major parts: > > - In KDE Gear master will be open for Q

Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-09-04 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El diumenge, 3 de setembre de 2023, a les 23:45:50 (CEST), Elvis Stansvik va escriure: > I noticed today that my votes on some bugs had been removed. Visiting > the bugs I see there's no longer any way to vote. > > So I guess as a result of this discussion, voting was disabled on some > products?

Re: Planning the final 6 release timeframes

2023-09-04 Thread David Edmundson
As a reminder this meeting is tonight in 3 hours. David

Re: setcap on kwin

2023-09-04 Thread Vlad Zahorodnii
On 9/4/23 13:44, David Edmundson wrote: That was true, we need to research and see if it's still true. Gnome have dropped their cap_sys_nice. For setting nice we many options: - kwin_wayland_wrapper can be cap_sys_nice set it the nice a child PID (needs verifying) - maybe the systemd cgroup

Re: setcap on kwin

2023-09-04 Thread David Edmundson
That was true, we need to research and see if it's still true. Gnome have dropped their cap_sys_nice. For setting nice we many options: - kwin_wayland_wrapper can be cap_sys_nice set it the nice a child PID (needs verifying) - maybe the systemd cgroup settings for priority are as good/better -

Re: setcap on kwin

2023-09-03 Thread Vlad Zahorodnii
On 9/4/23 04:21, Harald Sitter wrote: ...do we still need and want it? It gets in the way of crash tracking because it results in kwin_wayland crashes getting special protection by coredumpd that make the cores unreadable for the user [1][2][3]. So we either need polkit elevation in drkonqi or d

Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-09-03 Thread Elvis Stansvik
I noticed today that my votes on some bugs had been removed. Visiting the bugs I see there's no longer any way to vote. So I guess as a result of this discussion, voting was disabled on some products? No problem with me, but would have been nice with some sort of announcement (sorry if I missed i

Re: [announcement] Telegram bridging to be retired Wed. 20 Sept. | 5 to-dos

2023-09-01 Thread Paul Brown
Dear All, Sorry for being a pain in the neck about this, but the more I read the plan to migrate, the less it seems a plan at all. It just boils down to a deadline. There is no contingency, nobody has considered what the people who use Telegram to interact with us want, nobody has opened any ki

Re: Planning the final 6 release timeframes

2023-08-22 Thread David Edmundson
Video call at https://meet.kde.org/b/ada-mi8-aem

Re: Planning the final 6 release timeframes

2023-08-22 Thread Nate Graham
Thanks for organizing this, David. Where and how will the meeting be held? Nate On 8/22/23 09:22, David Edmundson wrote: A time has been chosen on the poll with a clear winner: 4th September 18:00 CEST See you all there David Edmundson

Re: Planning the final 6 release timeframes

2023-08-22 Thread David Edmundson
A time has been chosen on the poll with a clear winner: 4th September 18:00 CEST See you all there David Edmundson

Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-08-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Natalie Clarius - 05.08.23, 17:57:00 CEST: > I find it a useful indication of how common an issue really is and > hence how important it is to solve, and am surprised that some would > not. How else are users supposed to express that a bug affects them, > without creating duplicates and "me too" co

Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-08-05 Thread Natalie Clarius
il, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     plasma-devel-requ...@kde.org You can reach the person managing the list at     plasma-devel-ow...@kde.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Plasma-devel digest..." To

Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-08-05 Thread Natalie Clarius
a bug affects them, without creating > duplicates and "me too" comments which I as a submitter would think of as > spammy? Re. "I am an adult, I can set my own priorities"; I can see how that rationale applies to contributors who do this for fun, but at least as fa

Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-08-05 Thread Natalie Clarius
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Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-08-04 Thread Harald Sitter
Never looked at them. Never seen the benefit. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > Hello folks! > > I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets > are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help > prioritize work. After I explain this,

Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-08-04 Thread Fusion Future
I do vote on Bugzilla, but given the limited development resource, I find vote less useful than the number of duplicates or CCs.

Re: Porting aid place for Plasma stuff?

2023-08-03 Thread David Edmundson
For kwayland I would suggest to keep it in it's own repo kept being called kwayland Dialog is in Plasma-framework which is moving to workspace anyway. I'm not sure of the status of that move is. I would put suggest putting D&D stuff in plasma-framework (or whatever it ends up being called)

Re: Gamepad KCM

2023-08-01 Thread Jeremy Whiting
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 1:30 AM David Edmundson wrote: > b) merge it into the gamepad-kcm repo itself > > I would suggest doing this. It'll be easiest for future gamepad-kcm > devs to find than any other repo, and means it'll be obvious if it > ever becomes obsoleted. > Ok, I've copied it into g

Re: Gamepad KCM

2023-07-30 Thread David Edmundson
b) merge it into the gamepad-kcm repo itself I would suggest doing this. It'll be easiest for future gamepad-kcm devs to find than any other repo, and means it'll be obvious if it ever becomes obsoleted. David

Re: ACTION REQUIRED - Gitlab and Subversion server migration

2023-07-25 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 1:35 AM Vít Pelčák wrote: > > ne 23. 7. 2023 v 12:01 odesílatel Ben Cooksley napsal: > >> Good morning KDE Developers, >> >> As many of you will be aware, today Gitlab and our Subversion repository >> were both migrated to a new home - on a more modern and more powerful >

Re: ACTION REQUIRED - Gitlab and Subversion server migration

2023-07-25 Thread Vít Pelčák
ne 23. 7. 2023 v 12:01 odesílatel Ben Cooksley napsal: > Good morning KDE Developers, > > As many of you will be aware, today Gitlab and our Subversion repository > were both migrated to a new home - on a more modern and more powerful > server, which should better support future work. > > As a co

Re: ACTION REQUIRED - Gitlab and Subversion server migration

2023-07-25 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Ben Cooksley - 23.07.23, 12:01:04 CEST: > Please ensure you run the following two commands to clear out any > existing host keys: > - ssh-keygen -R invent.kde.org -f ~/.ssh/known_hosts > - ssh-keygen -R svn.kde.org ~/.ssh/known_hosts The second command misses a "-f": ssh-keygen -R svn.kde.org -f

Re: Remaining plasma-framework KF6 tasks

2023-07-09 Thread Nicolas Fella
Am 09.07.23 um 12:56 schrieb Nicolas Fella: Hi, on the KF6 workboard there's a number of plasma-framework related tasks that are still open. Some of them are actionable, others probably not or need discussion. I would appreciate if someone could go over the open tasks and triage them, i.e. dete

Re: Plasma 5.27.6

2023-06-26 Thread Bernhard Rosenkränzer
On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 17:57 CEST, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Plasma 5.27.6 is now released https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.6 plasma-sdk fails to build: CMake Error at /lib64/cmake/KF5DocTools/KF5DocToolsMacros.cmake:203 (add_custom_target): add_custom_target cannot create tar

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