Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-29 Thread Mike C.
It is usually, except in SuSE flavors (and we also used SLES at oldjob), pretty easy to match up rpms to a redhat version and more difficult in a debian or ubuntu environment. Both package management environments aren't the best (apt-/dpkg vs yum/rpm), though I think redhat gets the tip because

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-29 Thread Rich Burroughs
I had a need for a small VM at my last job, for SSH forwarding. I bounced around between a few different distros, but I really liked both Mint and Crunchbang. I think it's likely I'd go with one of them if I were to build a Linux desktop/laptop. And this is coming from someone with a lot more

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-29 Thread Pete Lancashire
What is the intended purpose of you soon to be new Linux box ? -pete On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Jim Webb jimwebb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to start using Linux again. I'm interested in a run of the mill distribution that works well and isn't cutting edge. What do you suggest?

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-28 Thread Ken Eshelby
I have been using Mint with XFCE as a desktop for many years and across two jobs. I tend to work with about a dozen desktops (workspaces) and the behavior of XFCE suits me, or I've just become accustomed to it. Any instability has historically been due to a specific hardware component/driver. I

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-25 Thread Mike C.
I've been running and administering different versions (stable and testing) of vanilla Debian and Debian derived distros for about a decade. There are more than 300 Debian derived distros with about half of that number still active today. One that I've been running very happily for the past few

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-21 Thread Ali Corbin
I tend to use a LTS Mint at home, and CentOS at work. The advantage of Mint is that it comes with packages that will play DVDs or mp3 files. You can do this for CentOS, but you have to find third-party packages to install. The advantage of CentOS is that it's super stable. Which can also mean

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-21 Thread Russell Senior
Jim == Jim Webb jimwebb...@gmail.com writes: Jim I'm just considering running a desktop on my home network. I've been using Gnome Ubuntu 14.04.x on most of my desktops, which is pretty easily tunable (about 6 settings using Tweak Tool) to have a reasonable traditional-ish desktop experience,

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-20 Thread Brian Scrivner
I may as well pitch in about my Linux since the experience has been surprisingly good. I've got a 2008 Thinkpad R500 which is running Linux Mint 17, I'm still using 17.1 Rebecca to avoid being too cutting-edge. I'm using the Xfce version, and it runs very light/fast while still having

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-20 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, King Beowulf wrote: On 08/19/2015 05:51 PM, Nathan Williams wrote: I'll echo the endorsement for CentOS 7. It's reasonably new enough to offer new-ish packages for desktop use, while also being the gold standard for stability and long term support (EOL in June 2024). Add

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-20 Thread Nathan Williams
On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 22:17 -0700, King Beowulf wrote: On 08/19/2015 05:51 PM, Nathan Williams wrote: I'll echo the endorsement for CentOS 7. It's reasonably new enough to offer new-ish packages for desktop use, while also being the gold standard for stability and long term support (EOL

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Nat Taylor
I've been using Arch Linux with the cinnamon desktop. Works great once you get it installed. I used the guide in Linux Voice magazine. I suggest reading some of those magazines, and taking a look at distrowatch.com . As mostly a user now I find Linux Mint (LTS versions) with the Mate desktop

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jim Webb wrote: It's good to see that you are still on the list. You are a fervent supporter of PLUG. Why Slackware? Jim, 1. It stays far back from the bleeding edges. 2. It is suitable for modern and older systems. 3. You can install just as much as you

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Jim Webb
It's good to see that you are still on the list. You are a fervent supporter of PLUG. Why Slackware? On Aug 19, 2015 9:40 AM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jim Webb wrote: I'm going to start using Linux again. I'm interested in a run of the mill

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread King Beowulf
On 08/19/2015 07:40 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jim Webb wrote: I'm going to start using Linux again. I'm interested in a run of the mill distribution that works well and isn't cutting edge. What do you suggest? Slackware. Rich Indeed. Slackware.

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Jim Webb
I remember you as well. Didn't you use to run a Linux page somewhere? Tell me more rewarding EPEL and ElRopo. I've been following from a distance and haven't heard of these entities. Yo On Aug 19, 2015 10:22 AM, Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jim Webb wrote: I'm

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Jonathan Drews
I recommend Mint Linux. 1) So easy to install even a management person could do it. 2) Derived from the stable and proven Debian Linux distribution. 3) Codecs are included in the base install. Multimedia support is excellent. 4) Libre Office is part of the base install. Note: I have used Linux

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jim Webb wrote: I'm going to start using Linux again. I'm interested in a run of the mill distribution that works well and isn't cutting edge. What do you suggest? Slackware. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Jim Webb
Rich, I just looked at the Slackware site and I'm concerned that they haven't done much since 2013. I used to use Redhat in the past. Jim On Aug 19, 2015 9:40 AM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jim Webb wrote: I'm going to start using Linux again. I'm

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Roderick Anderson
As mostly a user now I find Linux Mint (LTS versions) with the Mate desktop manager works great. For servers I've started moving to Debian. I started with Redhat 3.0.3, moved up the version chain with them for awhile, then did Fedora, finally CentOS (and with a smattering of the other Redhat

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Rich Burroughs
I used Mint some and liked it a lot. Not as a real desktop though, just for a lightweight VM. For the OP, it could be helpful for people to hear some more specifics about what you want to do with the box. Is this for a home desktop system, are you a developer, what is the scenario you're using it

[PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Jim Webb
I'm going to start using Linux again. I'm interested in a run of the mill distribution that works well and isn't cutting edge. What do you suggest? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jim Webb wrote: I'm going to start using Linux again. I'm interested in a run of the mill distribution that works well and isn't cutting edge. What do you suggest? My reading of your request is that you'd prefer stability over having the latest and greatest features.

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jim Webb wrote: Rich, I just looked at the Slackware site and I'm concerned that they haven't done much since 2013. I used to use Redhat in the past. Jim, I used Red Hat from 4.0 (1997) to 7.1 (2003) and Slackware since then. I don't recall when 14.1 (the current

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jim Webb wrote: I remember you as well. Didn't you use to run a Linux page somewhere? I used to edit Computer Bits, the local computer magazine. That may be what you remember. Tell me more rewarding EPEL and ElRopo. I've been following from a distance and haven't

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 08:16:39AM -0700, Nat Taylor wrote: I've been using Arch Linux with the cinnamon desktop. Works great once you get it installed. I used the guide in Linux Voice magazine. I suggest reading some of those magazines, and taking a look at distrowatch.com . As mostly a

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 09:38:08AM -0500, Jim Webb wrote: I'm going to start using Linux again. I'm interested in a run of the mill distribution that works well and isn't cutting edge. What do you suggest? Not Arch -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Wayne E. Van Loon Sr.
Jim: I use Linux Mint for some multimedia stuff, stuff like Audacity for audio recording, etc. It comes with all the CODECs, etc. I also often set up any friends who are trying Linux for the first time with Linux Mint. But, I haven't found Linux Mint to be terribly stable. For industrial

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Nat Taylor
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.us wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 08:16:39AM -0700, Nat Taylor wrote: I've been using Arch Linux with the cinnamon desktop. Works great once you get it installed. I used the guide in Linux Voice magazine. I suggest

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 01:56:53PM -0700, Nat Taylor wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.us wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 08:16:39AM -0700, Nat Taylor wrote: I've been using Arch Linux with the cinnamon desktop. Works great once you get it

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread Nathan Williams
I'll echo the endorsement for CentOS 7. It's reasonably new enough to offer new-ish packages for desktop use, while also being the gold standard for stability and long term support (EOL in June 2024). Add in EPEL and elrepo for extras, and you've got a pretty solid system that you won't have to

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions

2015-08-19 Thread King Beowulf
On 08/19/2015 05:51 PM, Nathan Williams wrote: I'll echo the endorsement for CentOS 7. It's reasonably new enough to offer new-ish packages for desktop use, while also being the gold standard for stability and long term support (EOL in June 2024). Add in EPEL and elrepo for extras, and you've

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-02 Thread drew wymore
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.comwrote: I run CentOS 5.3, I try to keep updated because it's CentOS and CentOS sadly is way behind as far as Linux distributions go. People who run CentOS want something that just plain works and they don't expect to

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-02 Thread Larry Brigman
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Michael Robinsonplu...@robinson-west.com wrote: I run CentOS 5.3, I try to keep updated because it's CentOS and CentOS sadly is way behind as far as Linux distributions go. People who run CentOS want something that just plain works and they don't expect to

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-02 Thread Dan Colish
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Larry Brigman larry.brig...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Michael Robinsonplu...@robinson-west.com wrote: I run CentOS 5.3, I try to keep updated because it's CentOS and CentOS sadly is way behind as far as Linux distributions go. People

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-02 Thread Carl Karsten
will be running for much longer and need to be extremely stable. When you run CentOS you should thinking about uptime. (I wonder what distro google uses... ) I brought a ubuntu system to a google office to offload a few gig of video files. I'll boot our gobuntu cd will be able to read your

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-02 Thread Tim Wescott
On Wed, September 2, 2009 8:53 am, Dan Colish wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Larry Brigman larry.brig...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Michael Robinsonplu...@robinson-west.com wrote: I run CentOS 5.3, I try to keep updated because it's CentOS and CentOS sadly is

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-02 Thread Michael M. Moore
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Dan Colishdcol...@gmail.com wrote: run CentOS you should thinking about uptime. (I wonder what distro google uses... ) I was under the impression that Google largely uses its own customized Linux distro, though I'm not sure it can be called a distro if it isn't

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-02 Thread drew wymore
As a former Googler I can say we did use a custom Ubuntu called Goobuntu. No real secret sauce to it. Just bundled with some tools we used in house of course I can't say what because of that darned NDA :) Drew On 9/2/09, Tim Wescott t...@wescottdesign.com wrote: On Wed, September 2, 2009 8:53

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-02 Thread Nick Aubert
Where is Linux going in the future? Well, I'm pretty sure a direction it's *not* going is toward One Distribution to Bind Them All, though Ubuntu is about as close as it gets. We're a very fractured community. If something seems works well one one distro, it's likely to be taken up by the

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Citek
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Nick Aubertnickaub...@gmail.com wrote: Burn yourself some LiveCDs.  Just about every major distribution has a LiveCD that will run the OS free of commitment. And then there are virtual environments where you can run them all. Regards, - Robert

[PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-01 Thread Michael Robinson
I run CentOS 5.3, I try to keep updated because it's CentOS and CentOS sadly is way behind as far as Linux distributions go. People who run CentOS want something that just plain works and they don't expect to reinstall their operating system every 6 months or sooner. Ubuntu seems to be the most

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-01 Thread Jameson Williams
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.comwrote: CentOS sadly is way behind as far as Linux distributions go. Indeed. People who run CentOS want something that just plain works and they don't expect to reinstall their operating system every 6 months or

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-01 Thread Joe Pruett
centos is based on redhat enterprise. and very few enterprise shops are going to care about running games or even having opengl. they care about running web, mail, database, etc services. and they want those things to not have interface changes over a long lifetime. so redhat picks a stable

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-01 Thread Jameson Williams
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Russell Johnson ru...@dimstar.net wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Jameson Williams wrote: The kernels that CentOS uses stock are quite old as far as the 2.6 branch goes. I am using 2.6.18 and the current kernel is like 2.6.27 or something. In

Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions concern...

2009-09-01 Thread Russell Johnson
On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Larry Brigman wrote: Yet approx every 6 months they release a major update. RHEL 5.3 was released in Feb 09. 5.4 is in beta now with expected release late Sept or early Oct. They do major back ports to support newer hardware. We have RHEL 5.3 running