Re: [plug] Possible CICT Project

2005-04-10 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
On Apr 11, 2005 2:18 PM, R Feria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Folks, > > Just came from a meeting with some CICT folks and they are considering > recommending Linux and OpenOffice.org for DepEd schools. The problem, > though, is training and assistance. Maybe you guys can have ideas as to > ho

Re: [plug] Possible CICT Project

2005-04-10 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
On Apr 11, 2005 2:32 PM, mallares(Mallare,Samuel P) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > congratulations on this new update! > > yes, one of the bigger challenges is providing tech and user support to ease > up the learning curve. this is probably mentioned in any discussion about > the use of

RE: [plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-10 Thread mallares(Mallare,Samuel P)
  rommel, would you like to share your open source initiatives in UPD? sammy From: Miguel A ParazSent: Mon 4/11/2005 2:32 PMTo: Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing ListSubject: [plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005 Thanks for all the suggestions - the thread has grown much longer

Re: [plug] Students' Conference (was Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005)

2005-04-10 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 11, 2005 2:21 AM, Yap, Jonathan Richie L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you guy are interested to set-up IT conferences targetted to > sutdents, UA&P would be happy to provide the logistics. Yeah! Can we have the labs used for ICPC? :) -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List

RE: [plug] Possible CICT Project

2005-04-10 Thread mallares(Mallare,Samuel P)
congratulations on this new update!   yes, one of the bigger challenges is providing tech and user support to ease up the learning curve.  this is probably mentioned in any discussion about the use of open source especially linux and openoffice.   for DepEd, this concerns nation-wide support.  h

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-10 Thread Miguel A Paraz
Thanks for all the suggestions - the thread has grown much longer than I thought it would! I may not be replying one by one, but I'm reading all the mail. For talk suggestions, it would be good if you can nominate a speaker, or yourself. :) -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List pl

Re: Dialup Accelerators? (was: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup))

2005-04-10 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 11, 2005 2:19 PM, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Propel's solution is proprietary and it also does things like ad > blocking via regexp (although that's nothing that dansguardian can't > do). it's also helped by the huge local cache that the Propel client > uses. actually the Pr

Re: Dialup Accelerators? (was: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup))

2005-04-10 Thread Orlando Andico
On Apr 11, 2005 2:04 PM, Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .. > > I've been wondering about that. I've always thought the local prepaid > > ISPs use some sort of transparent proxying service and have been > > calling it a 'dialup accelerator'. How does such an accelerator work, > > and are

[plug] Possible CICT Project

2005-04-10 Thread R Feria
Hey Folks, Just came from a meeting with some CICT folks and they are considering recommending Linux and OpenOffice.org for DepEd schools. The problem, though, is training and assistance. Maybe you guys can have ideas as to how to go about doing this and sustaining the project. Cheers! -- -

Re: [plug] IPv6 (was: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005)

2005-04-10 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 11, 2005 11:55 AM, fooler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you can start playing IPv6 by converting all your local network from IPv4 to > IPv6 and have a IPv6-to-IPv4 gateway going to the internet... Hey we can have this for a lab setup at the exhibit area. Mr. Hughes was at PhilOSC 2004 - how

Re: Dialup Accelerators? (was: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup))

2005-04-10 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 11, 2005 1:30 PM, JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 11, 2005 11:30 AM, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A better solution to speeding up your dialup is to use a dialup > > accelerator like Propel Accelerator. > > > > Several of the local ISP's have such a service, e.

Re: [plug] LTSP

2005-04-10 Thread JM Ibanez
On Apr 8, 2005 2:16 PM, ian sison (mailing list) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Secondly, there are certain problems associated with deploying LTSP solutions: > > - for one reason or another, there are cases when the remote session > disconnects from the server (power failure? network problems?) So

Re: [plug] LTSP

2005-04-10 Thread Gino LV. Ledesma
Just wanted to share my experience with LTSP setup and some other possible alternatives... We've managed to push 40 concurrent users on a dual-Xeon 2.0GHz box with 4GB of RAM. Client PCs ranged from Pentium 90s to Pentium 166s, each having between 16MB to 32MB of RAM. I had to spend quite some tim

Dialup Accelerators? (was: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup))

2005-04-10 Thread JM Ibanez
On Apr 11, 2005 11:30 AM, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A better solution to speeding up your dialup is to use a dialup > accelerator like Propel Accelerator. > > Several of the local ISP's have such a service, e.g. tri-isys, pacific > (i think..) although I've heard from Propel that

Re: [plug] IPv6 (was: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005)

2005-04-10 Thread fooler
- Original Message - From: "Manny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Miguel A Paraz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List" Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005 > On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Miguel A Paraz wrote: > > > I d

Re: [plug] Re: swappiness (was: GUI, desktop environments)

2005-04-10 Thread Dexter Tad-y
On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 01:16, Andy Sy wrote: > Pete Santiago wrote: > > >> You're right it shouldn't eat swap, only if the buffers/cache is > >> bigger than the total space by loaded apps and libraries. The 916k you > >> see there are probably least used pages downgraded to swap, which is a > >> go

Re: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-10 Thread Orlando Andico
On Apr 11, 2005 7:24 PM, Kenneth Oncinian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shae, > > > > > > Given that I am in a dialup, can I configure squid to act as a web > > > cache? Has anyone tried this? Is there a significant increase in > > > browsing speed? > > I have done this about three years ago when

Re: [plug] GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-10 Thread Manny
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Shae Tan wrote: I want to know what PLUG members are using for their desktops and how they manage the memory used by these GUIs. Do you recommend that I buy another 512mb of RAM? I'm using XFce 4. It uses much less RAM and is still pretty fast. We have old Pentium IIs running a

Re: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-10 Thread Kenneth Oncinian
Shae, > Given that I am in a dialup, can I configure squid to act as a web > cache? Has anyone tried this? Is there a significant increase in > browsing speed? I have done this about three years ago when I was employed in my previous company wherein we only have a 56Kbps dial-up connection from M

Re: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-10 Thread Jon Doblados
Sorry, I meant: increase in browsing speed. Ciao. On Apr 11, 2005 11:11 AM, Jon Doblados <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hewo,On Apr 8, 2005 3:38 PM, Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Given that I am in a dialup, can I configure squid to act as a web> cache? Has anyone tried this? Is there a significa

[plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-10 Thread Manny
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Miguel A Paraz wrote: I don't know anyone who's really into IPv6, except the researchers in ASTI. Are you? Not me. I can barely undertsand it beyond the basic conceptual stage (32-bit vs. 128-bit). But Lawrence Hughes of Infoweapons Corp. is heavily into it. He's based in Cebu

Re: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-10 Thread Jon Doblados
Hewo,On Apr 8, 2005 3:38 PM, Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Given that I am in a dialup, can I configure squid to act as a web> cache? Has anyone tried this? Is there a significant increase in> browsing speed? Web caching you can do, but if your box will be the only unit hooked up to the inte

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-10 Thread Kenneth Oncinian
How about involving the support of major ERP companies for open sourced platforms like GNU/Linux? example is SAP, since SAP and MySQL already announced their partnership with regards to SAP db development, how about emphasizing or discussing: 1. Status of MySQL/SAP database as alternative for exa

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-10 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
On Apr 11, 2005 9:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another topic that's needed IMHO is a strategy for adopting FLOSS, with a > special emphasis on SMBs. That would include how to get help, and I'm sure > the sponsoring GNU/Linux service companies would be happy to pitch their >

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another topic that's needed IMHO is a strategy for adopting FLOSS, with a special emphasis on SMBs. That would include how to get help, and I'm sure the sponsoring GNU/Linux service companies would be happy to pitch their services here :) The talk would also include training for the SMB staff, unle

RE: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-10 Thread mallares(Mallare,Samuel P)
migs,   how about FOSS for SMEs and/or schools?   it will be a run-down of FOSS for each business process that SMEs could use.  it will be a presentation of functionalities, rather than tech stuff.   all FOSS supporters want business people to accept/support FOSS in the business / enterprise wor

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-10 Thread Froilan Romualdo
On Apr 10, 2005 11:08 AM, AC Perdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 9, 2005 12:47 PM, JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2005 7:45 PM, Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What topics would you like to see in a talk? What activities would you > > > like to have? What

Re: [plug] Students' Conference (was Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005)

2005-04-10 Thread Yap, Jonathan Richie L.
If you guy are interested to set-up IT conferences targetted to sutdents, UA&P would be happy to provide the logistics. On Apr 10, 2005 10:19 PM, Clair Ching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 10, 2005 12:31 AM, Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 9, 2005 8:44 PM, Paolo Alexis Fa

Re: [plug] Students' Conference (was Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005)

2005-04-10 Thread Clair Ching
On Apr 10, 2005 12:31 AM, Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 9, 2005 8:44 PM, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 9, 2005 8:28 PM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or have it in other areas as well. Seriously what we need is a roadshow :) > > >

Re: [plug] Re: Common Lisp

2005-04-10 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 10, 2005 7:28 PM, Pepe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OT ata to hehehe... Join the compsci mailing list... this is very on topic there: http://lists.free.net.ph/mailman/listinfo/compsci -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.q-linux.com (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph)

[plug] Re: Common Lisp

2005-04-10 Thread aracelipraiz
> diba MIT scheme naman yung gamit ng SICP nina abelson and > sussman?... dialect ng lisp...mas maganda kung gamit ka na > lang ng built-in na lisp ng emacs... :) usual guidance is scheme or common lisp for teaching depending on desired purity/practicality scheme for extension language i

Re: [plug] urpmi db update question

2005-04-10 Thread Arys P. Deloso
On Apr 8, 2005 11:44 PM, Edel SM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello list, > > im updating a friend's mandrake box. however, when i executed > urpmi.updated i get some md5sum mismatch. is this normal? or i am > missing something... Check out this site: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ Enter Mandrake v

Re: [plug] Re: Common Lisp

2005-04-10 Thread Pepe Smith
OT ata to hehehe... diba MIT scheme naman yung gamit ng SICP nina abelson and sussman?... dialect ng lisp...mas maganda kung gamit ka na lang ng built-in na lisp ng emacs... :) gandang book :)... text yan sa MSU-IIT... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zak B. Elep) To: Phil

Re: [plug] Re: Common Lisp

2005-04-10 Thread Pepe Smith
OT ata to hehehe... diba MIT scheme naman yung gamit ng SICP nina abelson and sussman?... dialect ng lisp...mas maganda kung gamit ka na lang ng built-in na lisp ng emacs... :) gandang book :)... textbook yan sa MSU-IIT... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zak B. Elep) To:

Re: [plug] Re: Common Lisp

2005-04-10 Thread Pepe Smith
OT ata to hehehe... diba MIT scheme naman yung gamit ng SICP nina abelson and sussman?... dialect ng lisp...mas maganda kung gamit ka na lang ng built-in na lisp ng emacs... :) gandang book :)... textbook yan sa MSU-IIT... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zak B. Elep) To:

Re: [plug] Re: GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-10 Thread fooler
- Original Message - From: "Shae Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [plug] Re: GUI, desktop environments > > > Mem:516036k total, 512348k used, 3688k free, 183688k buffers > > > Swap:

[plug] Linux 2.4.30-hardened

2005-04-10 Thread Eduardo Tongson
Another patchset for those still using 2.4 for servers and are concerned with security. This patchset applies to vanilla 2.4.30, includes GrSecurity, ebtables, cryptoloop and some other none security related patches like ecc monitoring, evms, readlatency2, squashfs.

[plug] Re: Common Lisp

2005-04-10 Thread Zak B. Elep
aracelipraiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > BTW, the just published book Practical Common Lisp > http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ is reportedly now at #2 in Languages > & Tools and #4 in Programming on Amazon's best selling list. Yeah, grabbing a copy now, though I need to finish SICP[1] first.