[PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
The audio voice output quality from my Asus Prime X470-Pro is distorted and unacceptable. I finally figured out that this is the issue with online meetings and news/youtube videos, not the speakers (although I just replaced the Creative Pebbles with ProSonus studio monitors). Searching the web (i

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Rich Shepard wrote: Please provide recommendations for an add-in PCIe audio card that outputs clear voice as well as music to speakers and headphones/headsets. I decided to purchase a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX card. I'll find out if it improves voice clarity in the

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
"The audio voice output quality from my Asus Prime X470-Pro is distorted and unacceptable. Please provide recommendations for an add-in PCIe audio card that outputs clear voice as well as music to speakers and headphones/headsets." Hopefully, someone who knows a lot more about pc audio sound

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, MC_Sequoia wrote: Hopefully, someone who knows a lot more about pc audio soundcards and who produces podcasts and/or videos will respond but in the meantime here's what I can offer. "#4) ASUS XONAR SE 5.1 Channel Best for minimal audio distortion. Interesting. The pro

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
I also was thinking about an audio quality testing application that might be useful and came across this video on an app called Noise Torch. In the video he talks specifically about producing podcasts, zoom calls & jitsi meetings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzN9rYNeeIU I also came across

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, MC_Sequoia wrote: I also was thinking about an audio quality testing application that might be useful and came across this video on an app called Noise Torch. In the video he talks specifically about producing podcasts, zoom calls & jitsi meetings. https://www.youtube.com/wa

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Russell Senior
Can you collect an example? Like, record through the air (e.g. with a digital audio recorder maybe even in your phone) a few seconds of the distortion you are hearing and share it somewhere? Does it sound any different through headphones? Fwiw, I have zero problems with voice output on my linux ma

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread King Beowulf
On 4/16/23 06:42, Rich Shepard wrote: > The audio voice output quality from my Asus Prime X470-Pro is distorted and > unacceptable. I finally figured out that this is the issue with online > meetings and news/youtube videos, not the speakers (although I just replaced > the Creative Pebbles with Pro

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Michael Barnes
As a broadcast engineer who has dealt with computerized automation systems providing professional audio for FM radio stations, pretty much all I have used over the years for on-air play have been Audioscience cards. Not cheap, but they do the job. Linux friendly. Available with various combinations

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
s are listed separately but few listings so you really got to do your research thoroughly here. Ted -Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of Michael Barnes Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 3:06 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output [RESOLVED]

2023-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Rich Shepard wrote: Please provide recommendations for an add-in PCIe audio card that outputs clear voice as well as music to speakers and headphones/headsets. It was a hardware issue. Zoom would not work with the Panasonic headphones or speakers. But, it has no problem wi

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output [RESOLVED]

2023-04-17 Thread Russell Senior
On 4/17/23 17:22, Rich Shepard wrote: On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Rich Shepard wrote: Please provide recommendations for an add-in PCIe audio card that outputs clear voice as well as music to speakers and headphones/headsets. It was a hardware issue. Zoom would not work with the Panasonic headp

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output [RESOLVED]

2023-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, Russell Senior wrote: Have you counted the little rings on the end of the connector? A headset jack has 4 electrically-separated pads: tip, ring, ring, sleave (TRRS). Ground, L, R, and Microphone (the arrangement can sometimes vary): Russell, Yep. Both are 3-segments: tip

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
"My issue is getting good sound quality from the 'Net using Zoom and Jitsi." This is probably the best & most useful piece of information you've to work with. That seems to point away from a audio card, audio software/drivers, cables, etc. I don't use either of these apps, so I could only su

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, MC_Sequoia wrote: "My issue is getting good sound quality from the 'Net using Zoom and Jitsi." This is probably the best & most useful piece of information you've to work with. That seems to point away from a audio card, audio software/drivers, cables, etc. I don't oft

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
"I don't often view news site or youtube videos but it's the same issue with them as it is was the Zoom meeting. The other issue with Zoom is that heard unclear sound throught the Creative Pebble speakers that were installed, and no sound through the Panasonic headset. Yet, the headset had no p

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, MC_Sequoia wrote: So, to be clear, do you only have a problem with inbound voice audio quality from the Internet? Mike, Yes. Have you monitored resource, cpu/memory, usage when you're experiencing this problem? I've watched gkrellm. Maybe even shutdown and power ba

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
"I could not hear them using the headphones and the speakers produces very unclear (garbled?)output." Does your PC have an onboard speaker that you can test with? Are the speakers and headset both plugged into the PCI-E soundcard? Have you tried plugging into the onboard audio ports directly o

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
it's not your audio hardware or drivers. It's Zoom. Personally I prefer an MP3 of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir for audio testing... Ted -Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of Rich Shepard Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 3:45 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: Re: [PL

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, MC_Sequoia wrote: Does your PC have an onboard speaker that you can test with? No. Are the speakers and headset both plugged into the PCI-E soundcard? Not yet. I have a Y-extender with 2 mini-phono jacks and 1 mini-phono plug that's in the green-ringed port on the rear

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Zoom deliberately degrades audio quality to save bandwidth. Ted, That's interesting. Reminds me of issues I've had in the past in cell phone conversations with iPhone users because Apple focused (perhaps still does) on the cameras than voice qualit

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, Rich Shepard wrote: Depending on when Amazon (or USPS) delivers the Soundblaster I'll install it after work, or tomorrow if it comes late in the evening. I'll report results after it's in. It arrived at 6:05; must have come from the Troutdale or Fairview warehouses. Rich

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Zoom deliberately degrades audio quality to save bandwidth. Does Zoom also degrade audio quality on VoIP phones and not on TDM phones? Perhaps calling in to this rescheduled Zoom meeting (and possible future ones) would resolve the problem. It woul

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-17 Thread wes
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 6:57 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > Zoom deliberately degrades audio quality to save bandwidth. > > Does Zoom also degrade audio quality on VoIP phones and not on TDM phones? > > Perhaps calling in to this rescheduled Zoom meeti

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, wes wrote: you could always do both - join from the computer for the video and call in from a phone for the audio. just mute the computer audio so you don't get undesired crossover. Wes, Aha! That would work. Earlier today I read a web page on improving Zoom audio. While

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Looks like it. What do other linux uses do who need to participate in Zoom meetings? Does the Zoom browser work better? I believe that the Microsoft Teams web browser client runs on Chrome on Linux Also supposedly Microsoft has Linux binaries for teams, see https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Looks like it. What do other linux uses do who need to participate in Zoom meetings? Does the Zoom browser work better? Ted, Good. I don't know if you have control of both ends or if you are required to use Zoom but if you do have control of both

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of Rich Shepard Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 9:21 AM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality >I guess it's that most linux users won't pay $$$ for prop