Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet ... 20 miles, really?

2023-03-07 Thread MC_Sequoia
"I presume this is a high frequency microwave system." Verizon's 5G network is mmWave. The wavelength is about 1 mm long. "The FCC redefined the lower end of the mmWave range in the U.S. to begin in the upper range of the Super High Frequency zone, starting at 24GHz, crossing over into EHF o

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet ... 20 miles, really?

2023-03-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
p Subject: Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet ... 20 miles, really? The sales pitch was dubious the moment someone mentioned it came from Verizon's door-to-door salesperson. I didn't even know Verizon would show up in person to advertise their service and TBH, there's a possibility that they don't -Ben

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet ... 20 miles, really?

2023-03-07 Thread Ben Koenig
; > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 10:37 PM > To: Denis Heidtmann denis.heidtm...@gmail.com > > Cc: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help, civil and on-topic > p...@lists.pdxlinux.org > > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet ... 20 miles, really? > > > In the R

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
the soft drink market. Market forces serve to keep Coke and Pepsi selling 90% of the sugar water that people drink. Ted -Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of MC_Sequoia Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 7:23 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Cc: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help,

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet ... 20 miles, really?

2023-03-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
t evenly baked, LOL. Ted -Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of Keith Lofstrom Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 10:37 PM To: Denis Heidtmann Cc: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help, civil and on-topic Subject: Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet ... 20 miles, really? In the REAL wor

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
all day not for her data, you see, and if she is responsible enough not to break her phone I may NEVER make use of the money I'm paying him. Ted -Original Message----- From: PLUG On Behalf Of Russell Senior Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 6:00 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: R

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet ... 20 miles, really?

2023-03-06 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 04:19:00PM -0800, Denis Heidtmann wrote: > wireless towers to service about a 20 mile radius per tower. ... > is 300Mb (MB?) down and up speeds. This topic veers towards plug-talk instead, but ... ... 20 mile radius from one urban tower is BULLSHIT. Sales droid fail, the

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread MC_Sequoia
"I received a door-to-door sales pitch from Verizon. They claim they have wireless towers to service about a 20 mile radius per tower Subscribers would have a receiver which is basically a router, wireless out. The claim is 300Mb (MB?) down and up speeds. $50/mo. No other fees. 30 day free tria

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread Russell Senior
Russell Senior writes: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> Consumer Cellular is $20 a month with 1GB $50 a month unlimited. > > From https://www.consumercellular.com/shopping/choose/plan: > > "On unlimited data plans, access to high speed data may be reduced after > 50GB of use, and you may experien

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread Russell Senior
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > Consumer Cellular is $20 a month with 1GB $50 a month unlimited. >From https://www.consumercellular.com/shopping/choose/plan: "On unlimited data plans, access to high speed data may be reduced after 50GB of use, and you may experience slower speeds for the remainder o

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of wes Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 5:37 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Cc: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help, civil and on-topic Subject: Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet >$17 a month is only achievable as an add-on service

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread wes
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 5:07 PM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > You are not going to get 300Mbt all day long continuously off a cell > network. It just won't happen. It's hard enough with landline broadband > but at least they know what's going on and can manage it some. With mobile > you can have a

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread Russell Senior
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > It works but of course it's very easy to go over 300Mbt and then they charge > overage fees which can be quite high > > At the end of the 30 days ask them the price of an unlimited account. > > I always ask people doing this why don' t you just get an unlimited > data

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
6, 2023 4:51 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Cc: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help, civil and on-topic Subject: Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 4:23 PM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > It works but of course it's very easy to go over 300Mbt and then they > ch

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread wes
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 4:23 PM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > It works but of course it's very easy to go over 300Mbt and then they > charge overage fees which can be quite high > the 300mb refers to a service speed, not a transfer limit. there may well be a transfer limit, but it will be at least so

Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
o: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help, civil and on-topic Subject: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet I received a door-to-door sales pitch from Verizon. They claim they have wireless towers to service about a 20 mile radius per tower. Subscribers would have a receiver which is basicall

[PLUG] Verizon towers for internet

2023-03-06 Thread Denis Heidtmann
I received a door-to-door sales pitch from Verizon. They claim they have wireless towers to service about a 20 mile radius per tower. Subscribers would have a receiver which is basically a router, wireless out. The claim is 300Mb (MB?) down and up speeds. $50/mo. No other fees. 30 day free trial.