On Jun 11, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Sasha Pachev wrote:
> Part 1 - easy, you frequently see this in job interviews. Maybe not anymore
> because everybody knows it. You have a list of N unordered elements that
> contains unique numbers from 1 to N+1 with one missing. Using the amount of
> RAM that will b
On 06/11/2013 09:54 AM, Joshua Marsh wrote:
In reading about all this, it reminded me of Phil Whindley's Key note at
OWC. His talk wasn't primarily about security, but more along the lines of
the need to have your own personal cloud. I love the idea of owning your
own data, storing it in a place
On 06/11/2013 02:36 PM, Joel Finlinson wrote:
What about www.tonido.com or http://owncloud.org/ for personal cloud?
-jf
Tonido's no good. There is still data that is routed through the tonido
servers for NAT traversal.
Owncloud is ok, but the webdav module is beastly slow.
;-Daniel
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Sasha Pachev wrote:
> >Remember when PLUG actually discussed Linux issues, before turning
Part 1 - easy, you frequently see this in job interviews. Maybe not anymore
> because everybody knows it. You have a list of N unordered elements that
> contains unique num
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Sasha Pachev wrote:
> Part 1 - easy, you frequently see this in job interviews. Maybe not anymore
> because everybody knows it. You have a list of N unordered elements that
> contains unique numbers from 1 to N+1 with one missing. Using the amount of
> RAM that w
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, John Shaver wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Joshua Marsh >wrote:
>
> > about all this, it reminded me of Phil Whindley's Key note at
> > OWC. His talk wasn't primarily about security, but more along the lines
> of
> > the need to have your own persona
> - note -
> Please do not respond to this thread unless you include ALL of the
> following
> words in the post: sjansen, bacon, Nazis, soap on a rope, Illuminati, a
> lyric
> from any Pink Floyd song.
>
>
Oh Heavenly plug-list,
I pray that the illuminati stop doing things in the name of certain
r
On 6/11/2013 12:53 AM, Ryan Simpkins wrote:
On Mon, June 10, 2013 00:44, Ryan Simpkins wrote:
Did Mr. Snowden do the right thing by disclosing PRISM and similar programs to
the world, or did he violate the trust of his employer, government, and fellow
countrymen by reveling secrets that aught n
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:27 PM, John Shaver wrote:
> Sorry, you misunderstood me. If I have a cert with them as the CA, they do
> not have my private key to hand over to the government. They certainly
> have their own private key...
Oh, totally right. The government couldn't decrypt your SSL
Sorry, you misunderstood me. If I have a cert with them as the CA, they do
not have my private key to hand over to the government. They certainly
have their own private key...
On Jun 11, 2013 12:06 PM, "Lonnie Olson" wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:17 AM, John Shaver
> wrote:
> > My under
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:17 AM, John Shaver wrote:
> My understanding is that verisign doesn't have private keys, only public
> keys.
>
> However having the CA private key does allow for sophisticated man in the
> middle attacks. This can be circumvented by verifying the key signature,
> rather
>Remember when PLUG actually discussed Linux issues, before turning
>into BYUTV (or the 700 Club)?
>I miss the good old days :(
I think you have a good point. While I enjoy wild discussions and at times
throw in some thoughts that keep them going, I would like to see the higher
rate of technical t
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Ryan Simpkins wrote:
> When I asked this question I simply had no idea it would turn in to such a
> deeply emotional debate. This is arguably one of the most important
> discussions to have ever taken place on this list.
Clearly, you don't remember when the list
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:51:05 AM Jessie A. Morris wrote:
> I think that there's a serious business opportunity for this as well. I've
> wanted to go buy a private island, declare sovereignty, and start hosting
> all of the Pirate Bays servers.
>
> I guess there is now a less ethically questio
My understanding is that verisign doesn't have private keys, only public
keys.
However having the CA private key does allow for sophisticated man in the
middle attacks. This can be circumvented by verifying the key signature,
rather than just trusting the CA, but then, I guess, what is the point
I've wondered about that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VZxd8w11YSA
This documentary talked about privacy measures Iceland is taking -- but
with my limited knowledge it seems like once you hit the internet snoopers
can and will grab your data. I always thought (previously
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:53:12 Lonnie Olson wrote:
> Not really, this idea won't get you much farther. Sure your data at
> rest is safe from the US, but your data in transit is not. And guess
> what? Unless you only use sneakernet, your data has to be in transit
> at some time, and most of t
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jessie A. Morris
wrote:
> I guess there is now a less ethically questionable business use as well. Just
> host peoples' servers for them and promise to not allow any country access to
> your data. If you're a sovereign state, it'd be pretty tough for the US to
> f
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 09:46:19 Nathan England wrote:
> I'm thinking initially we need to find a country that is nuetral and does
> not require ISPs to turn over information. I actually looked into this
> about a year ago and I wanted to put a server in Switzerland. A man at my
> church is from
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Charles Curley
wrote:
> NSA Prism: Why I'm boycotting US cloud tech - and you should too
PRISM is a bad thing, for sure, but boycotting cloud tech won't get
any political traction against it, nor does it circumvent what PRISM
does.
Better ways to combat PRISM wo
Who was it that had the secret banking and reported all the secret account info
to the U.S.? Wasn't that Switzerland?
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 6/11/13, Nathan England wrote:
From: Nathan England
Subject: Re: Personal Cloud (was: Did Ed Snowden do the right thing?)
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Charles Curley
wrote:
> NSA Prism: Why I'm boycotting US cloud tech - and you should too
PRISM has nothing to do with specifically cloud tech. PRISM is just a
general data gathering mechanism. It can gather it from a cloud
provider, or any other basic POP3/IMAP
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:04:39 AM John Shaver wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Joshua Marsh wrote:
> > about all this, it reminded me of Phil Whindley's Key note at
> >
> > OWC. His talk wasn't primarily about security, but more along the lines of
> > the need to have your own person
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ryan Moore wrote:
> On this topic, is anyone familiar with how TOR or Tails could be affected
> by PRISM or other surveillance techniques?
PRISM would still be able to capture the same traffic that comes from
a TOR network. TOR just anonymizes the source, not t
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, John Shaver wrote:
> I have thought of this on many occasions and how it would be best to go
> about this. In particular, host my own email and DNS seems a good place to
> start. However how can you truly self host this?
Since the very nature of email is not po
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:22:53 -0400
Nick Barker wrote:
> Since this thing blew up I have been thinking about the personal cloud
> thing as well. I think it is a good selling point.
NSA Prism: Why I'm boycotting US cloud tech - and you should too
Opinion So, America's National Security Agency h
Since this thing blew up I have been thinking about the personal cloud
thing as well. I think it is a good selling point.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Ryan Moore wrote:
> On this topic, is anyone familiar with how TOR or Tails could be affected
> by PRISM or other surveillance techniques?
On this topic, is anyone familiar with how TOR or Tails could be affected
by PRISM or other surveillance techniques?
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, John Shaver wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Joshua Marsh >wrote:
>
> > about all this, it reminded me of Phil Whindley's Key note a
Date: Tuesday, June 18th, 2013
Time: 7:30 PM
Location: UVU Business Resource Center
Presenters: Steve Meyers, Tod Hansmann, and Jeff Anderson
We'll have 3 shorter presentations at this meeting.
* Steve Meyers will present a short tutorial on NAT vs. non-NAT
networking topologies.
* Tod Hasman
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Joshua Marsh wrote:
> about all this, it reminded me of Phil Whindley's Key note at
> OWC. His talk wasn't primarily about security, but more along the lines of
> the need to have your own personal cloud. I love the idea of owning your
> own data, storing it in a
I finally got a chance to look at all of the leaked material and I have say
that based on what Snowden shared, I'm glad he did. We need whistle blowers
in government to protect us. Even in a perfect government, there would
still need to be some secrecy (IMO much less secrecy than we have now).
It's
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:10 AM, wrote:
> Remember when PLUG actually discussed Linux issues, before turning
> into BYUTV (or the 700 Club)?
> I miss the good old days :(
Wow, you must be quite old. I don't ever remember a time when PLUG
didn't devolve into flamewars and/or religious/political
The Salt Lake Perl Mongers group meets the 2nd Tuesday of the month, which is
tonight.
When: Tuesday, June 11th at 7:00pm (that's tomorrow).
Where: Bluehost: 12159 South Bus Park Drive, Suite 160, Draper, UT 84020
What: Talks by Doran Barton (DBIx::Class), and Dave Oswald (Intro to
Perl's functio
When I said we I am talking about the New Testament believer.
Who claims to be under the Old Testament Law?
If they are, that means they must stone people and a lot of other things that I
have not seen. When was the last time you saw a burnt offering?
Maybe some people are claiming to be un
Who is "we"? To some, we *are* still under old testament law. To others,
the old and new testament isn't even applicable. There a many in between.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:01 AM, keith smith wrote:
>
> Tithing is old testament law. We are not under the law we are under Grace.
>
> The New Test
Remember when MTV actually played Music Videos, instead of Reality
show BS?
Remember when PLUG actually discussed Linux issues, before turning
into BYUTV (or the 700 Club)?
I miss the good old days :(
>
>
> Original Message
>From: klsmith2...@yahoo.com
>To: plug@plug.org
>Subject: Re: Did
Tithing is old testament law. We are not under the law we are under Grace.
The New Testament believer is required to give not Tithe.
Tithing was put in place to support the Levites who were the priests and had no
land.
If someone tells you you must tithe, ask them for the scripture that says
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> Are you suggesting that 100% of the $52 million/year in fast offering funds
> are spent in the communities they originate from, and that 0% of the $7
> billion/year in tithing collected is spent on the members (or anyone else)
> in need a
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Ryan Simpkins wrote:
> When I asked this question I simply had no idea it would turn in to such a
> deeply emotional debate. This is arguably one of the most important
> discussions to have ever taken place on this list. I want you all to know I
> have read every
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Jessie A. Morris
wrote:
> On Monday, June 10, 2013 15:20:13 Nathan England wrote:
>>
>> Interesting. I agree with what Charles said, my only concern is the
>> scientist who crafts the experiment to prove his hypothesis in a particular
>> situation.
>>
>> Example:
>
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