philchillbill wrote:
> Also untried here, but in other .bat files I've prepended the command
> with 'call' to prevent this. Might be worth trying.
'call' starts the program or batchfile in a new console session but not
in parallel.
staresy wrote:
> Yes, that's what initially I thought, but
staresy wrote:
> Yes, that's what initially I thought, but after starting the ngrok
> tunnel the batch file stop running and never runs the subsequent code,
> hence the use of 2 files.
Also untried here, but in other .bat files I've prepended the command
with 'call' to prevent this. Might be
reinholdk wrote:
> Didn't try it, but wouldn't it work using a single batch file like
> this?
> >
Code:
> >
> cd /d "C:\Google Drive\LMS Stuff\ngrok"
> start ngrok start -region=eu server name
> timeout 5
> updater.py
>
> >
Yes,
staresy wrote:
>
> The trick to running the auto-update in Windows is to run a couple of
> batch files from the Windows start-up shell. The 1st batch file points
> to the relevant directory containing the ngrok and auto-update script.
> This file then goes on to run ngrok to open the tunnel
philchillbill wrote:
> @staresy runs two locations/servers on Win10, having followed the
> instructions at
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4026268/windows-10-change-startup-apps
> and using Python for the updater script (not sure if manually or somehow
> linked to the ngrok
philchillbill wrote:
> @staresy runs two locations/servers on Win10, having followed the
> instructions at
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4026268/windows-10-change-startup-apps
> and using Python for the updater script (not sure if manually or somehow
> linked to the ngrok
> My home pc is on most of the time as I work from home so I use that,
> though I used to have a little atom-powered pc for music.
>
> I'll have to think! Thanks all.
@staresy runs two locations/servers on Win10, having followed the
instructions at
slartibartfast wrote:
> It would be interesting to know the distribution of LMS downloads
> between Windows and Linux. I would not be surprised if an awful lot of
> people with an always on LMS server use a Raspberry Pi even if they use
> a Windows machine for other purposes.
>
> Sent from my
mecouc wrote:
> Thanks for that!
> My next query is that the setup instructions are skewed a little towards
> linux. As most people use Windows, for better or worse, this must
> discourage most interested people from going further.
>
> It looks as though I need to both arrange for ngrok to
I think youll find that most people these days use an RPi or a NAS for
LMS and that Windows is in the minority. Thats also down to people
tending to shut down Windows boxes but keep Linux boxes running 24/7.
philchillbill wrote:
> Amazon determines from which Alexa-enabled devices (Echos, phones) and
> which countries subscriptions can be started, not the skill. So
> unfortunately there's no way around that.
>
> The skill 'discovers' all players that have isplayer:1 in the discovery
> response
mecouc wrote:
> Thanks! I've got it nearly working for testing at home. Now, I don't
> have a physical Echo (I've just given it to my mother), but for testing
> I have the Amazon/Alexa app on my phone which responds quite nicely.
>
> I asked for a subscription but Alexa on my phone told me
Thanks! I've got it nearly working for testing at home. Now, I don't
have a physical Echo (I've just given it to my mother), but for testing
I have the Amazon/Alexa app on my phone which responds quite nicely.
I asked for a subscription but Alexa on my phone told me I couldn't do
so "on this
mecouc wrote:
> I hate to ask a silly question, but is it all pretty robust?
I can speak as a user of this skill, I had similar reservations to you,
I wanted something that would be reliable and not need much tinkering.
Once set up this does the trick and works well. The documentation is
very
The robustness will be mainly determined by how good your proxy setup
is. If you use ngrok and the auto updating process described in the docs
it should be bulletproof.
One general comment about anything Alexa related and not just this skill
is that humming and hawing is not well tolerated. So
This looks brilliant. I might try it myself, but I'm primarily looking
for something my elderly visually impaired mother can use to play her
classical music collection.
I've recently given her an Echo dot to play with, but results with
classical music are very disappointing with Spotify or
Apologies to anybody who received a false invalid ngrok/uuid
notification for a while earlier this evening. I had uploaded an
incorrect (test) version of a file to the server but that has now been
rectified.
arressen wrote:
> That makes more sense... except I'm hearing it at the end of a session,
> when I'm actually managing a separate player and not streaming to the
> echo.
Sure, because Amazon is wrongly indicating that the Echo you are talking
to is actually streaming. Like I said, they have a
philchillbill wrote:
> The 'Suspending LMS' message is only -supposed- to be said when a
> *stream* is suspending
That makes more sense... except I'm hearing it at the end of a session,
when I'm actually managing a separate player and not streaming to the
echo.
Rapid-fire commands should now work for any category except a
stream-to-Echo intent. So the housekeeping commands assume, earshot,
rename, verbosity, etc are covered, as are commands that result in an
error/warning message.
The exclusion of stream commands is deliberate as you don;t want to
philchillbill wrote:
> ... that's how the Americans see the Brits from a voice synthesis point
> of view ;)
We may be getting into dangerous territory by considering how other
countries see each other! :D
Either way, the real issue is how this works from the users'
perspective. Just
arressen wrote:
> I've heard Alexa say this ("Suspending LMS") a few times now after I've
> finished a session, but not clear what it actually means. The choice of
> words may be confusing - the LMS itself is not being suspended as it
> continues playing, so I assume that this is referring to
arressen wrote:
> I've been trying to get accustomed to hearing the male voice, but it
> isn't working for me at least. Brian is too perfunctory for my liking -
> seems to be making demands rather than asking questions! :)
Amazon Polly only has a single male voice for en-GB (See
I've heard Alexa say this ("Suspending LMS") a few times now after I've
finished a session, but not clear what it actually means. The choice of
words may be confusing - the LMS itself is not being suspended as it
continues playing, so I assume that this is referring to the Media
Server skill?
staresy wrote:
> My only very minor comment would be that I'm not 100% convinced of the
> male voice in-session as it seems to break the flow a little (meaning I
> started the chat with Alexa, now someone else has butted in!), but I'll
> probably get used to it.
I've been trying to get
A freshly-certified version of the skill is now live with some
voice-model changes (the online A-Z is updated). These include two new
dedicated Spotty commands using *fetch* as keyword instead of
play/load.
-For playlists:-
"fetch a playlist on the {Player}"
"fetch my {Playlist} playlist"
-For
Good news. PlayFavorite, PlayPlaylist and AddToPlaylist now work again
with the assumed player. You cannot currently specify a different player
in the command itself but that will be rectified in an upcoming
re-certification. So it's always the assumed player (for now) if
defined. If not
philchillbill wrote:
> Ok, V3.1 with rapid-fire is now live :D
>
> Please let me know what you think of it..
This seems to work really well and I can see it being very useful. My
only very minor comment would be that I'm not 100% convinced of the male
voice in-session as it seems to break the
Ok, V3.1 with rapid-fire is now live :D
Please let me know what you think of it. It takes a little getting used
to and it's natural to hum and haw when put on the spot to issue the
next command at Alexa's pacing rather than yours. But after a few trial
sessions it's very natural. I should have
>From my perspective this would be brilliant. Keep the full commands as
one-shot, but use the open mode to support multiple requests. Thanks for
listening!
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This looks useful to me as long as I can continue to use single commands
(e.g. Ask mediaserver to play "album") along with "Open mediaserver",
if it is my intention to issue multiple commands. You might want to run
a poll to see what people think.
I'd say go for it and see how people react, seems like it could be
pretty useful to me, but the test is using it.
location 1: lms 8.0 on win 10 brix server, x2 sb radios, x1 touch, x1
controller : location 2: lms 8.0 on win 10 brix server, x2 sb radios, x1
duet receiver, x1 controller : alexa
staresy wrote:
> Phil,
> Just so I understand how this would work, if I said " Ask mediaserver to
> play the album Kind of Blue by Miles Davis", with this feature would she
> then start playing the album and then ask "Anything Else?".
> If I didn't reply (ie. I didn't say "no" or issue another
philchillbill wrote:
> I've been testing a possibility to provide *back-to-back commands*
> without having to say 'Alexa, ask MediaServer to...' before each and
> every command. It works very well. The idea is that you issue the
> commands in-session rather than one-shot. So when you first ask
I've been testing a possibility to provide *back-to-back commands*
without having to say 'Alexa, ask MediaServer to...' before each and
every command. It works very well. The idea is that you issue the
commands in-session rather than one-shot. So when you first ask 'Alexa,
open Media Server',
After some very extensive testing by the Amazon certification team, V3
of the skill is now live with 114 intents. In addition to 19 new
commands, some older commands have been moved to the free-tier so there
are now 72 commands available without subscribing. The voice model grew
to 6500 lines of
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LMS takes a long time to load a genre with more than ~15K tracks and to
prevent timeouts, the PlayGenre command was simply refused if the genre
had more that 12K tracks.
Good news is that I've figured out a way to let Alexa respond that the
load operation is ongoing before it actually
As mentioned in the early days of the thread, Alexa always hears/returns
spoken numbers like 'two' as '2'. Long ago, I improved the matching of
numbers in album, artist and song names, but I forgot to do that for
player names - which, incidentally, were not fuzzy matched.
I just updated the
On the player naming, I seem to remember there was a time that
SqueezeServer could only handle 8 characters in some circumstances, so
resulted in names like "LivingRm" which is unlikely to work in Alexa.
I've moved all of mine back to proper words such as "Living Room" now
and it's working fine.
Thats great to hear Ive added new error trapping that will report
timeouts with favorites more gracefully. The error message now
explicitly suggests flattening as not everybody reads the online docs or
visits these forums.
Im still amazed at the player names that people expect Alexa to
OK - I have great news. Finally got this worked out - it's been so long
since I configured Dynamic Playlists, I'd forgotten that the built-in
function to create a Favourites folder doesn't really do much in terms
of actually adding something to Favourites.
That was then compounded by using the
Very curious. I don't see any of those problems - the only piece not
working for me currently is adding a dynamic playlist to Favourites.
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arressen wrote:
> So things just took a turn for the weird - I cleared out the favourites
> in Dynamic Playlists with the intent of re-creating them, and now it
> appears I can't do that. The functionality is there, just doesn't appear
> to be working.
>
> Once I've got that resolved I'll get
So things just took a turn for the weird - I cleared out the favourites
in Dynamic Playlists with the intent of re-creating them, and now it
appears I can't do that. The functionality is there, just doesn't appear
to be working.
Once I've got that resolved I'll get on with doing more testing in
arressen wrote:
> Hi there. My sincere apologies for not getting back sooner - I was
> expecting to get a notification, but apparently didn't get one. I'll
> check why that's not happening.
>
> I'll do some more playing with streaming to Alexa based on what you've
> said and done. However the
Hi there. My sincere apologies for not getting back sooner - I was
expecting to get a notification, but apparently didn't get one. I'll
check why that's not happening.
I'll do some more playing with streaming to Alexa based on what you've
said and done. However the Favourites problem is more
*Teaser*: Despite the lack of feedback on my recent post regarding new
feature suggestions, I've added a few more commands to bring the skill
up to a whopping 111 intents (up from 95). Some examples of the new
possibilities:
Play the *track* Run Like Hell *from the album*
Pulse
Play the Live &
arressen wrote:
> Hi there. Only just found time to start using this, and really enjoying
> what I'm finding so far. Wanted to mention a couple of things in the
> hope that there are easy fixes or workarounds.
>
> 1 - if I try to stream a track to an Echo, it starts at some random
> point in
Hi there. Only just found time to start using this, and really enjoying
what I'm finding so far. Wanted to mention a couple of things in the
hope that there are easy fixes or workarounds.
1 - if I try to stream a track to an Echo, it starts at some random
point in the middle of the song. This
FYI, I've been testing a beta with 13 new intents that address all the
feature requests (I think) made by the community in recent months. It
will soon be submitted to Amazpn for certification but I wanted to give
a heads up. The possibilities include:
* Play or Stream a *specific* version of a
I refactored a lot of the code for MediaServer and have tweaked a few of
the error messages and added some new ones. I noticed a lot lately that
Alexa was interpreting '2' as 'to' so I've added a replacement where the
context makes sense. Overall, things should be noticeably faster too.
Please
Paul Webster wrote:
> I don't use ngrok now - but I am pretty sure that when I first tried
> this skill I ran ngrok on my pCP LMS server.
>
> The process to get it would be something like ...
> find the download URL from https://ngrok.com/download (Linux (ARM))
> wget thatURL
> unzip
castalla wrote:
> ... but not, as far as I know, on PcP (?)
I don't use ngrok now - but I am pretty sure that when I first tried
this skill I ran ngrok on my pCP LMS server.
The process to get it would be something like ...
find the download URL from https://ngrok.com/download (Linux (ARM))
Paul Webster wrote:
> Yes - ngrok can be run on RPi
... but not, as far as I know, on PcP (?)
LMS server: O2 Joggler with Jivelite, Pi Zero W with PcP 6.0
Amp: Denon PMA-50
Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam,
Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010,
philchillbill wrote:
> Glad you sorted it out. Ill add those tips to the docs because they are
> the kind of issues that might crop up for others.
One additional question: do you know if ngrok can be run on a Raspberry
Pi I currently have set up as a picoreplayer and running 24/7? The
Yes - ngrok can be run on RPi
Paul Webster
http://dabdig.blogspot.com
author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw,
supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland
Paul Webster's
When using the JSON api to search through albums, a match is returned if
the search term matches *any *tag and not just the ALBUM name tag. For
example
['albums', 0, 100, 'search: "thrillseekers" + "night music"',
'tags:Aal'] will return the Thrillseekers album "By your side (CDM)"
that has a
Glad you sorted it out. Ill add those tips to the docs because they are
the kind of issues that might crop up for others.
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philchillbill wrote:
> I just checked in the us-east-1 logs and there are zero errors. I can
> see you getting the message that you need to link, but I can also see
> that you do not have an oauth token in the skill header (meaning it
> really is NOT linked). This looks like an Amazon glitch
DavJon wrote:
> I am using the PC version of the Alexa app. When I link the account, it
> takes me to the landing page, where I entered the ngrok path, click the
> blue button, and it then says:
>
> your LMS server (v7.9.1) responded correctly
>
> There is now a green button saying submit.
philchillbill wrote:
> In the logs, I do see some people who have enabled the skill but not
> linked it (that regularly occurs as people chicken out when they learn
> they actually have to setup something). Are you on the GB or US Amazon
> ARN? Did you try and link from a phone or PC/Mac? After
DavJon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using ngrok for the proxy on a connected Windows machine, pointing
> to my LMS, which is on a Synology NAS. I have followed all the steps in
> the smartskills.tech page up to the point of successfully testing the
> browser, enabling mediaserver and account linking
Hi,
I am using ngrok for the proxy on a connected Windows machine, pointing
to my LMS, which is on a Synology NAS. I have followed all the steps in
the smartskills.tech page up to the point of successfully testing the
browser, enabling mediaserver and account linking the skill. The last
step
GoldenEye wrote:
> Interesting... Maybe, that has changed? I just issued the following
> command to my German speaking Alexa: "Alexa, spiele The Dark Side of the
> Moon von Pink Floyd.". Alexa started the album on my Echo Dot
> immediately. IMO, this means that Alexa can handle mixed commands.
philchillbill wrote:
> Well, translating the intents is only half the problem. The other issue
> is that a German speaking Alexa expects -everything- to be in German,
> and that includes your song and album names. Youll have very mixed
> success asking for e.g. The Dark Side of the Moon by Pink
New versions of both the MediaServer and LMS-lite skills are now live
with two major enhancements:
* ngrok users on the free plan can now *autoupdate *tunnel details
-without -having to relink the skill(s)
* *Multiple *LMS instances can now be linked to the skill(s) under a
single Amazon
philchillbill wrote:
> @Vitor, the main goal of the skill is to control an LMS -server -by
> voice commands rather than control a Squeezebox -player -by voice - hope
> you understand the difference. The very first post in this thread gives
> a long list of the kinds of commands possible.
vitoruch wrote:
> Hi Phil,
> 1. The main skill goal is to add voice commands to whatever we do in a
> Squeezebox to listen at our hifi system speakers, right? Or to bring
> access to our flac collection to playback on an echo smartspeaker?
> (hopefully the first, since most Amazon echoes have
Hi Phil,
I've read some parts of this thread and the web page itself
(mediaserver.smartskills.tech) but somehow I'm not sure if I have
understood properly the skill purpose:
1. The main skill goal is to add voice commands to whatever we do in a
Squeezebox to listen at our hifi system
It's a DSM feature.
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tobyjug wrote:
> For those who have a DS416play, you can set up a reverse proxy on the
> NAS and don't need a separate box. Got it working this morning.
Good to hear. Is that a DSM feature or did you install a package?
For those who have a DS416play, you can set up a reverse proxy on the
NAS and don't need a separate box. Got it working this morning.
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I can't "stream favorite" Radio Paradise Flack streams to my echoes, but
I am able to "play" the FLAC streams to LMS players such as a SB3 and
various chromcast devices which handle FLAC natively. I am able to
stream FLAC albums to the echoes which are shown in the web GUI to be
transcoded to
arrikhan wrote:
> Is there a plan to publish this skill in Australia (AU)?
>
> Arrikhan
Skills with subscriptions cannot currently be published in AU. As soon
as Amazon lifts that restriction, it will be submitted there (same for
Canada and India).
Is there a plan to publish this skill in Australia (AU)?
Arrikhan
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dersch wrote:
> It is not available in germany? Are you planning to release it here,
> too?
Im afraid not on the short term. Voice commands to play music cannot be
mixed-language. See a few posts back in this thread.
It is not available in germany? Are you planning to release it here,
too?
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raglencross wrote:
> When I use an echo show as a music sink for LMS, there is no album art
> or song info displayed. If this is normal, do you expect to be able to
> display these in a future release? Otherwise, your alexa skill is a
> very nice addition to the LMS ecosystem.
I could easily
When I use an echo show as a music sink for LMS, there is no album art
or song info displayed. If this is normal, do you expect to be able to
display these in a future release? Otherwise, your alexa skill is a
very nice addition to the LMS ecosystem.
Well, translating the intents is only half the problem. The other issue
is that a German speaking Alexa expects everything to be in German, and
that includes your song and album names. Youll have very mixed success
asking for The Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd while requesting
Liebe is für
in one for your 'earlier posts'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111016-Announce-MediaServer-*certified*-Alexa-skill-for-LMS=958336=1#post958336)
you stated that stated that it's too much to translate you skill to
German.
Is there a way the community could support you with this
philchillbill wrote:
> No, it could only be done for custom skills such as the MediaServer
> skill. LMS-lite is a smart-home skill and no self-defined voice commands
> are possible with those. I guess it would then be of limited usability
> as most people indeed use both skills.
Agreed.
LMS
No, it could only be done for custom skills such as the MediaServer
skill. LMS-lite is a smart-home skill and no self-defined voice commands
are possible with those. I guess it would then be of limited usability
as most people indeed use both skills.
philchillbill wrote:
> Question to all the ngrok users. Would it be useful to be able to *spell
> out* your new ngrok subdomain details to the skill when they change so
> that there's* no need to re-link the skill*?
>
> For example, your tunnel was https://92832de0.ngrok.io and this changes
>
philchillbill wrote:
> Question to all the ngrok users. Would it be useful to be able to *spell
> out* your new ngrok subdomain details to the skill when they change so
> that there's* no need to re-link the skill*?
>
> For example, your tunnel was https://92832de0.ngrok.io and this changes
>
Question to all the ngrok users. Would it be useful to be able to *spell
out* your new ngrok subdomain details to the skill when they change so
that there's* no need to re-link the skill*?
For example, your tunnel was https://92832de0.ngrok.io and this changes
to https://5057493e.ngrok.io. You
Paul Webster wrote:
> I agree.
> I set up ngrok in a few minutes to test things out.
> Later I put in a reverse proxy to avoid the need to buy an ngrok
> subscription to avoid the need to reset things on restart.
> Putting in the proxy was numerous steps and more error prone. I followed
> and
philchillbill wrote:
> ngrok really is very simple to set up - much easier than a roll-your-own
> proxy.
I agree.
I set up ngrok in a few minutes to test things out.
Later I put in a reverse proxy to avoid the need to buy an ngrok
subscription to avoid the need to reset things on restart.
whatsharp wrote:
> Thanks, I suspect the issue is that I need a proxy as I can only access
> it if I got direct to the port also need to set up a Proxy as not sure I
> like the idea of my media server being open.
>
> Be lovely when it works but my word what a nightmare to set up! lol
ngrok
philchillbill wrote:
> Yes, I actually have it running on Synology NAS myself with my Apache
> reverse proxy running on an Intel NUC. No issues.
>
> I see an error in the logs "Error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND
> www.dovecottage.ddns.net" which I presume is you. Maybe try it without
> the www? If
whatsharp wrote:
> Has anyone got this working with a Synology NAS?
>
> I have sent up my DDNS and domain and created a certificate, set the
> ports and can get the the LMS through port 9002 yet Alexa tells me it
> cant discover my LMS?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Steve
Yes, I actually have
Has anyone got this working with a Synology NAS?
I have sent up my DDNS and domain and created a certificate, set the
ports and can get the the LMS through port 9002 yet Alexa tells me it
cant discover my LMS?
Thanks in advance
Steve
staresy wrote:
> You're correct I was having problems with those player names, changing
> them has fixed that. Also, looking through my favourites list, I spotted
> that it had a hierarchical link that was pointing to mysqueezebox.com
> favourites, removing that link fixed the problem.
>
> I
Paul Webster wrote:
> That does say it requires a named playlist ... which I assume is not
> necessarily the same as the currently playing stuff which could be from
> an on-the-fly playlist created by LMS.
Correct. Its for augmenting named playlists and not the now-playing
list.
philchillbill wrote:
> Glad you're enjoying the skill. To autostart ngrok on Win 10, check out
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4026268/windows-10-change-startup-apps.
> Regarding alarms, they are entirely not addressed by this skill. I'll
> add them to the list for consideration in a
That does say it requires a named playlist ... which I assume is not
necessarily the same as the currently playing stuff which could be from
an on-the-fly playlist created by LMS.
Paul Webster
http://dabdig.blogspot.com
Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin
bigf42 wrote:
> Getting to grips with the voice control, but I cant find a voice
> command to append a track/album etc to the end of the current players
> play list, ie the + option Apologies if Im being denseHow about this?
Getting to grips with the voice control, but I cant find a voice
command to append a track/album etc to the end of the current players
play list, ie the + option Apologies if Im being dense
LMS 8 on QNAP
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CR-505DAB
staresy wrote:
>
> - is it possible to auto start ngrok on a win 10 m/c. The instructions
> in the help section appear to relate to a linux set up?
> - is there any way to control the alarm feature in the skill, I can't
> seem to find it (eg. set alarm or at least alarms on/off)?
> - I can't
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