Re: newbie department

2016-08-26 Thread @lbutlr
On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:56, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > I have clients who expect their email to behave in a very clearly defined > way. If someone sends an email to my system it must do one of two things - > be delivered to to a user (or at least his spam filter) or bounced back to > the sender.

Re: newbie department

2016-08-26 Thread @lbutlr
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 08:59, Glenn English wrote: > > Why do I get mail to names like dcpczy3foku+gcyvikdnlcei? > > They're not a lot of them, but they show up every few days, and I can't think > why anybody'd do this. At first I thought somebody was trying to access their > bot, but Postfix

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-08-26 02:09, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: In a perfect world, I would reject email that fails SPF and DKIM. I recall noise from Google making this a plan, which that would force all the servers to clean up their act. google.com and gmail.com is not yet dnssec, possible it have low plans

[THREAD CLOSED] Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Michael J Wise wrote: > >> FWIW, I rather have the wrong address email address bounce. That and I >> don't want to eyeball the catch-all to see if it caught anything useful. > > Here's the thing. > > If you have a catch-all address, and something gets delivered t

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread Michael J Wise
> FWIW, I rather have the wrong address email address bounce. That and I > don't want to eyeball the catch-all to see if it caught anything useful. Here's the thing. If you have a catch-all address, and something gets delivered to it ... who looks at it and fishes it out and sends it to the righ

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread lists
his a plan, which that would force all the servers to clean up their act.   Original Message   From: D'Arcy J.M. Cain Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:56 PM To: Michael J Wise Cc: postfix users Subject: Re: newbie department On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:36:19 -0700 "Michael J Wise"

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:36:19 -0700 "Michael J Wise" wrote: > > No! Even though you don't have to have a mailbox to fill up (you > > can direct catch-all to /dev/null) this is still a bad idea. If > > someone sends you an important message at li...@lazygranch.com it > > will be silently ignored.

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 25.08.2016 21:36, Michael J Wise wrote: > This fails badly for many security and privacy reasons if you are doing > anything other than running a personal, vanity domain. Is it really necessary to present a purely personal opinion of yours as a fact? Based on the needs of my customers and myse

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread Michael J Wise
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:31:47 -0700 > li...@lazygranch.com wrote: >> ‎This seems counter intuitive. So I am better off having a catch-all >> account that random emailers will fill up than not having one? "It Depends." Who cares if it's counter-intuitive. It's Observed Behavior. And in this ca

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:31:47 -0700 li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > ‎This seems counter intuitive. So I am better off having a catch-all > account that random emailers will fill up than not having one? No! Even though you don't have to have a mailbox to fill up (you can direct catch-all to /dev/null

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread lists
u do NOT have a catch-all address, and the real attack will commence almost immediately. And in earnest.‎"   Original Message   From: Michael J Wise Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:22 AM To: postfix users Subject: Re: newbie department > On 8/25/2016 9:59 AM, Glenn English wrote: >&g

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread Michael J Wise
> On 8/25/2016 9:59 AM, Glenn English wrote: >> Why do I get mail to names like dcpczy3foku+gcyvikdnlcei? >> >> They're not a lot of them, but they show up every few days, and I can't >> think why anybody'd do this. At first I thought somebody was trying to >> access their bot, but Postfix rejects

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/25/2016 9:59 AM, Glenn English wrote: > Why do I get mail to names like dcpczy3foku+gcyvikdnlcei? > > They're not a lot of them, but they show up every few days, and I can't think > why anybody'd do this. At first I thought somebody was trying to access their > bot, but Postfix rejects the

Re: newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread Sven Schwedas
On 2016-08-25 16:59, Glenn English wrote: > Why do I get mail to names like dcpczy3foku+gcyvikdnlcei? Spammers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It serves both to verify operations of your server (to mark it as possible target for slightly less morose attempts), and might end up in catchall mailboxes on some systems.

newbie department

2016-08-25 Thread Glenn English
Why do I get mail to names like dcpczy3foku+gcyvikdnlcei? They're not a lot of them, but they show up every few days, and I can't think why anybody'd do this. At first I thought somebody was trying to access their bot, but Postfix rejects them after a quick look at /etc/passwd... -- Glenn Eng