RE: [NF] Will MySQL Keep Lighting up LAMP?

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> Throw enough money at 'em and they lose their original ideals, eh Steve? > We all have a price. I like to think my price is so high that I can hold true to my own values. I have had a few offers to "buy my company", but nobody has ever been able to really get my attention to the point where I

RE: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Michael Madigan
I learned more about computers the first 6 months in a job then 4 years in college. I think many professors are years behind industry. --- Gil Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very cool tip re: knowing who has been selling my > email address to 3rd > parties. Thanks Mike! > > Just an aside f

RE: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> I think many professors > are years behind industry. "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach." heh-heh Actually, as a general observation that old adage may have some validity. I would like to think many instructors in our industry are amongst the brighter and more experienced folks. A

RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
Wow! What a nicely written application. I like the slickery feature of SyncBack far more, and the retention of previous log files. But Mr. Cobian has done a very nice job with this app. Very nice indeed, especially considering his license fee (donations requested). The VSS support for v-9 is a

RE: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> I just wanted to let everyone know about a feature in Google Mail where it > allows you to create a change to your email address on the fly and still > have the email sent to your base email address. Okay, I read the info at the link Mike sent, and tried it out. Very useful info! Upon receipt

RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Allen
I was under the impression that was about to change and I did wonder how that would be possible. Or for that matter how it could be brought out. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 19 April 2008 01:27 You do know

RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Allen
I sorry but Im not. It has happened to me already. Competitors telling possible userts that its written in a dead language. Yes they work, will work for ages but it’s another matter someone using the facts against you. I don’t tell anyone unless they ask. But they know. Allen -Original Messag

RE: [NF] Will MySQL Keep Lighting up LAMP?

2008-04-19 Thread Al
Clever. Get all your mates to do the work and get rich of them. Stinks But if its open source, cant anyone take it as their own ? Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell The guys and gals who made it created a company and sol

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 18, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Ted Roche wrote: >> >> He keeps getting >> gigs, so it looks pretty good to me. > > But he's a data ho. "Will code for food." Works for some,... Exactly my point. >> Bill has decided to keep his horse >> hitched to the good ole' VFP. Good for him! Bad for his >>

Re: [OT] VW to get 80 MPG

2008-04-19 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 18 April 2008 23:48, Michael Madigan wrote: > Oops > > http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news4.18.08d.html Hi Michael! Leland has boosted them so much they are using his $8 Spell Checker. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ __

Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 19, 2008, at 2:19 AM, Gil Hale wrote: > "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach." heh-heh *I* teach! Not that I am being defensive! Two things I'll say about it: 1. Even when you understand a concept, having to formulate an explanation of it in a way that lay people and newbie

Re: [NF] Will MySQL Keep Lighting up LAMP?

2008-04-19 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Gil Hale wrote: >> Throw enough money at 'em and they lose their original ideals, eh Steve? >> >> > > We all have a price. I like to think my price is so high that I can hold > true to my own values. I have had a few offers to "buy my company", but > nobody has ever been able to really get m

Re: [NF] Will MySQL Keep Lighting up LAMP?

2008-04-19 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 19, 2008, at 6:58 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > > I can't offer you any higher than $2 million, Gilsorry. > Watta Cheapskate! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailma

Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Michael Madigan wrote: > I learned more about computers the first 6 months in a > job then 4 years in college. I think many professors > are years behind industry. > I would agree with you on this one...but I've been out of school for years so the thought isn't current.

Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Ted Roche
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Gil Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very cool tip re: knowing who has been selling my email address to 3rd > parties. Thanks Mike! > Not to pick on you or Mike, but this is pretty much an original feature of the email system, encoded in the RFCs (If I needed a

RE: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> 1. Even when you understand a concept, having to formulate an > explanation of it in a way that lay people and newbies can understand > it, too, deepens your understanding of that concept or practice > profoundly. > I am in total agreement with both of your points. I have often told others that

Open a specific Excel worksheet inside a VFP Form

2008-04-19 Thread Paul
Hello All This is what I want to do: I want to open an excel worksheet in a vfp form the user will fill up data then I want to import back the information My problem is that I need to have a specific worksheet open. I know how to add a worksheet to the form I know how to import the excel data but

RE: [NF] Will MySQL Keep Lighting up LAMP?

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> I can't offer you any higher than $2 million, Gilsorry. > I accept that as a valid tender offer, and since I am in New York, NY law clearly states you are now bound to that offer, although at a nominally lesser price were you to find anything during your due diligence that would indicate

RE: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> Ted "old dog, still learning new tricks" Roche Now Ted, you do know you need to rewrite that phrase like the experts with underscores instead of spaces. Otherwise these 32 bit Operating System just won't know how to deal with the string: old_dog,_still_learning_new_tricks heh-heh... Gil >

Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 19, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Gil Hale wrote: > Clearly > that is not the same as teaching a room full of students over the > course of > several months a subject in depth. My teaching averages about one day per week. These are working folks from local organizations of all types. The "students

RE: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> Not to pick on you or Mike, but this is pretty much an original > feature of the email system, encoded in the RFCs (If I needed a > citation, I'd start at 822, replaced by 2822). "Those who fail to > understand UNIX are doomed to reinvent it." It was only with the > introduction of a lot of not-v

RE: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? follow-up:

2008-04-19 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller
If you believe it: http://tinyurl.com/6krlyl and http://tinyurl.com/6qdffl Hm... If true, how is it that they can spend money this way? Not sure I believe it. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.c

RE: Open a specific Excel worksheet inside a VFP Form

2008-04-19 Thread John Harvey
If you know how to open 'a' worksheet, you should know you can open a specific excel document, which is your template. oexcel=CREATEOBJECT('excel.application') lcfile=GETFILE('xls') oexcel.Workbooks.Open(lcfile) oexcel.Visible=.t. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EM

RE: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> My teaching averages about one day per week. My CPA wants me to start to give a series of one-day seminars on computer utilization for small business owners (their clients). His firm wants to wait until May to get this rolling, and the overview course is to be based on my one paper, "Bullet-Pro

RE: [OT] VW to get 80 MPG

2008-04-19 Thread John Harvey
Looks like a mini-me kinda car. I'll have to say I am very well pleased with my VW Beetle Diesel TDI. I had the oil changed recently and went to synthetic. My next tank gave me 41 mpg in (town driving). That's up from the 38 I was getting, so I assume the 46 highway I got on the trip to Florid

Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 19, 2008, at 8:35 AM, Gil Hale wrote: > My CPA wants me to start to give a series of one-day seminars on > computer > utilization for small business owners (their clients). His firm > wants to > wait until May to get this rolling Gee, the CPA wants to wait until after tax time? I fo

RE: SP2 Fixes - Light at the end of the tunnel

2008-04-19 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
Hi Thanks Rick, I didn't know that. E. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 18-Apr-08 17:24 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http:

RE: Open a specific Excel worksheet inside a VFP Form

2008-04-19 Thread Paul
Thanks for your answer but I Want to open the worksheet in a vfp form. The code you gave me will open an excel workbook outside vfp. Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Harvey Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:12 PM To: 'ProFox Emai

RE: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> Not surprisingly, given that they come from you, those topics are > well thought out. Why, thank you, Ken. I have given this a lot of thought. During the nearly 3 years Michael Wohlrab was interning with me I had encouraged him to offer a simple seminar as a way of making some money. He will

[OT] "The Betsy" girl still pretty after 30 years

2008-04-19 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody! http://www.janvalk.nl/kathleenbeller/800/photo.html Her most recent photo is at the bottom. The photos are all nice, some nicer than others. She has held up way better than Olivier or Duvall. They were older to begin with but it was the same 30 years, -- Regards, Pete http://w

RE: Open a specific Excel worksheet inside a VFP Form

2008-04-19 Thread John Harvey
Ok, use the MS Excel worksheet ole control then. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:12 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: Open a specific Excel worksheet inside a VFP Form Thanks for your answe

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 19, 2008, at 3:23 AM, Allen wrote: > I was under the impression that was about to change and I did wonder > how > that would be possible. Or for that matter how it could be brought > out. New features that are being added are reported to be closed source. Nothing that has be

Re: [NF] Will MySQL Keep Lighting up LAMP?

2008-04-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 18, 2008, at 10:43 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > Throw enough money at 'em and they lose their original ideals, eh > Steve? You forget the difference: everything that has ever been released as open source remains exactly the same. There is no way that Sun

Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? follow-up:

2008-04-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 19, 2008, at 8:15 AM, Kenneth Kixmoeller wrote: > Hm... If true, how is it that they can spend money this way? Not > sure I believe it. If they had a history of creating high-quality videos, I *might* believe that this was a spoof. But really: is it so different than their

Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 19, 2008, at 2:19 AM, Gil Hale wrote: > If nothing else I feel that Lynda will not be alone when folks are > at my funeral Oh, there will be a *lot* of people there, with party hats and noisemakers, and lots of Steve's special "Dr Pepper" to go around. ;-) -- Ed Leafe

Re: [OT] National Defense Institute report on Iraq

2008-04-19 Thread Ricardo Araoz
John Harvey wrote: > Sure, I'll just keep on keepin on. FYI - Next year, we're going to annex > Iraq and call it Middle East Texas! Oil for 30 cents a barrel. > Never doubted that was your govt's original plan. But you people never put people in your equations, thought you'd learned in Nam but i

Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? follow-up:

2008-04-19 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 19, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > I'm more inclined to believe that > this admission is an effort to save face. Yeah --- no matter how big a company you are -- I've yet to meet a corporate manager who would spend -- what do you think this thing cost? -- minimally $50,000?

RE: Open a specific Excel worksheet inside a VFP Form

2008-04-19 Thread Paul
This is exactly what I want to do but how to display the "template worksheet" in the ole control ? Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Harvey Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: Open a specific

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Paul McNett wrote: > Bill Arnold wrote: >> There are providences of that super fast, binary switching machine >> called a computer, not the language. My point of all this is that we >> didn't need a thousand different tools/languages in the first place, >> that we could have done everything we want

RE: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
heh-heh, I plan to skip the party. Gil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier > > > On Apr 19

Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Mike Wohlrab
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Gil Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Very cool tip re: knowing who has been selling my email address to 3rd > > parties. Thanks Mike! > > > > Not to pick on you or Mike, but this is pretty

RE: [OT] God Bless Brigitte Bardot

2008-04-19 Thread Adam Buckland
Feck... my friend is her private lawyer... I'll get the inside track and post -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 17 April 2008 17:06 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] God Bless Brigitte Bardot http://news.yahoo.com/

RE: [OT] Finally, something Atheists and Christians can agree on

2008-04-19 Thread Adam Buckland
Arf! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince Teachout Sent: 18 April 2008 12:47 To: ProFox Email List Subject: [OT] Finally, something Atheists and Christians can agree on Joke strip: http://www.caracal.net/religion.jpg [excessive quoting

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-19 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Below is a link to some NVIDIA SLI gamer computers. You can select various computers and look at the detail specs to see what components are being used, (eg motherboards, CPUs, Video Cards, memory, etc). http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_buyprebuilt_us2.html This system look interesting:

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Paul McNett
Ricardo Araoz wrote: > Paul McNett wrote: >> I see the open source movement as the ultimate expression of democracy. >> > > Democracy??? Have you ever seen the acronym BDFL (Benevolent Dictator > For Life)? Ask Ed or any of the other Python guys. Open source can be a > democracy (rarely), a meri

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-19 Thread Mike Wohlrab
Here is a build that I am thinking about. https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=8939608&WishListTitle=New+PC+Build http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/wishlist/wishlist.asp?WishId=48B28B1D-8088-4333-A312-501EE395BEBA&&SRCCODE=WEBWISH For the case you ca

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Apr 18, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Allen wrote: > >> As for open source, look whats happened to MySQL. Not a good sign. > > You do know that it's still open source, right? That you can download > the source code, read it, make changes, add stuff, whatever? That you > can the

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Bill Arnold wrote: >> No you don't understand. The rot is in and our opponents will >> already be in with the knifes. It may be ok for all those >> that play with programming but for those with products and >> competitors its all tits up. The "did you know they use a >> dead language" has alrea

Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-19 Thread Malcolm Greene
> I just wanted to let everyone know about a feature in Google Mail where ... Yawn ... Fastmail.fm has supported '+' style addressing for years. In addition, Fastmail supports subdomain style email addresses which offers the flexibility of '+' style addressing without all the hassles. http://www.

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Paul McNett wrote: > Ricardo Araoz wrote: >> Paul McNett wrote: >>> I see the open source movement as the ultimate expression of democracy. >>> >> Democracy??? Have you ever seen the acronym BDFL (Benevolent Dictator >> For Life)? Ask Ed or any of the other Python guys. Open source can be a >> de

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Malcolm Greene
Ricardo, > ... but BECAUSE I LOVE the bloody language. After tasting Python I just > couldn't be thrilled at doing something with VFP. And I think that if you > tried it, the same might happen to you. Very well put. +1 from me. Malcolm ___ Post Mes

RE: [NF] PaFox User Group Meeting announcement

2008-04-19 Thread Rick Schummer
Jim, For what it's worth, I think a user group announcement about Visual FoxPro or from a VFP user group should not have a [NF] notation. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Mes

RE: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers?

2008-04-19 Thread Rick Schummer
>> Do any of you have experience with any of the Brother laser printers or have an alternative recommendation in the same price/feature set window?<< Sorry for the late reply, but I have a HL-5170DN here. The printer performs well. I bought it because it meet the two most important criteria I had

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Paul McNett
Ricardo Araoz wrote: > Paul McNett wrote: >> Ricardo Araoz wrote: >>> Paul McNett wrote: I see the open source movement as the ultimate expression of democracy. >>> Democracy??? Have you ever seen the acronym BDFL (Benevolent Dictator >>> For Life)? Ask Ed or any of the other Python guys

RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Bill Arnold
> I sorry but Im not. It has happened to me already. > Competitors telling possible userts that its written in a > dead language. Yes they work, will work for ages but it's > another matter someone using the facts against you. I don't > tell anyone unless they ask. But they know. Allen Don't

RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Bill Arnold
> He knew that he had waited too long, though. Maintaining the old app > while building a new one was difficult and expensive. He could > already see the writing on the wall that he would have to move to > newer technologies to grow the business again. His solution? He sold > the business

[OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-19 Thread Ed Leafe
...well, that's how he would be pegged by Fox News if he was around today. Imagine if they had used their practice of taking sound bites out of context and playing them over and over, and used that with this gem: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke+14:26 -- Ed Leafe

RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Bill Arnold
> Bill, > > Unless you're going to file a lawsuit against them and have > the zillions of dollars it'd take to fight them (and then no obvious chance of > winning anyway), then yes, you have to sit back and take > it--unless you move to a different product. Nobody says you have to stick with

RE: [NF] Will MySQL Keep Lighting up LAMP?

2008-04-19 Thread Rick Schummer
>> There is no way that Sun or any other company can reverse that. You still >> have exactly the same rights to the source code as you had before. If your business relied on it, you could still take the source and modify it to your needs.<< Such a simple pointed statement, while completely true,

RE: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? follow-up:

2008-04-19 Thread Rick Schummer
>> Yeah --- no matter how big a company you are -- I've yet to meet a corporate manager who would spend -- what do you think this thing cost? -- minimally $50,000? -- just to make a spoof?<< I am not saying this was an intended spoof or not, but I can say I have seen Microsoft spend money to

Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? follow-up:

2008-04-19 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 19, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Rick Schummer wrote: > Have you seen the video on Bill Gates' last day at Microsoft? > > How about the video on "We Share Your Pain" video? > > Money is not a restriction. Yes, I've seen them and I was thinking about those when I replied. (I offered to my customers

RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Bill Arnold
> OTOH I'm into Python, not because VFP is dead (at > my working place I am only authorized to program VFP) but BECAUSE I LOVE > the bloody language. After tasting Python I just couldn't be thrilled at doing > something with VFP. And I think that if you tried it, the same might > happen to you

Re: [NF] Will MySQL Keep Lighting up LAMP?

2008-04-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 19, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Rick Schummer wrote: >> There is no way that Sun or any other company can reverse that. You >> still have exactly the same rights to the source code as you had >> before. If your business relied on it, you could still take the >> source and modify it to your need

RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Bill Arnold
But then, what do I know about money? http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080419/ts_nm/britain_wine_dc Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 19, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Bill Arnold wrote: > ...until 2015, at least 7 years... and I > truly believe more and better options will emerge during this time. Of course they will. I'm just saying that for my business, I can't wait that long. Fox *is* dead in the marketplace for new custom

RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Bill Arnold
> > ...until 2015, at least 7 years... and I > > truly believe more and better options will emerge during this time. > > Of course they will. I'm just saying that for my business, I can't > wait that long. Fox *is* dead in the marketplace for new custom > software. My marketplace has spoken.

Re: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers?

2008-04-19 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Rick Schummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only negative of this machine is the power up from sleep cycle. It seems > to draw a lot of power, > often tripping up the three UPSes in on the same circuit in the office when > it awakens. It does seem UPS & prin

Re: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers?

2008-04-19 Thread Michael Madigan
I don't think he has the printers on the UPS, just on the same circuit. When the laser printer goes off, the UPS senses a brown-out condition and fire. --- Jean Laeremans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Rick Schummer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only nega

RE: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers?

2008-04-19 Thread Gil Hale
> UPS & printers ? Isn't that a big no no. ? > Yes, for lasers or photocopiers using a UPS is not recommended. I do use a surge suppressor for those kinds of units, but a heavy duty one that will not pop an internal circuit breaker when the current demand spikes. For ink jet and impact printers

RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-19 Thread Allen
If only it was that simple. If you can be around at the point they drive the knife in. But its not that easy. Believe me I m as unhappy with the situation and anyone as Im a VFP fan. Im a happy VFP bunny. But I need to compete. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMA

VFP marketing

2008-04-19 Thread Bill Arnold
Allen, I've (finally) changed this topic to VFP marketing. I was a little surprised there wasn't much interest in the original thread. Maybe because I had the word 'product' in there, or that everyone is happy with enough paying customers and work, and this just isn't important. Be it as it may, m

RE: VFP marketing

2008-04-19 Thread John Harvey
If you feel the need to compete, learn more stuff. Put as many arrows in the quiver as you possibly can. Life is school. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Arnold Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 6:21 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: VF

Re: VFP marketing

2008-04-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 19, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Bill Arnold wrote: > Mulling over what I can say, it strikes me to first ask "how can we > help"? Please don't say it's hopeless, because I'll never believe > that. Ah, the beauty of faith over reason! -- Ed Leafe __

RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d

2008-04-19 Thread Ken Dibble
> > If you're not wedded to this software, I'd suggest Cobian Backup. >Wow! What a nicely written application. > >Ken, thanks for the Heads Up! You're welcome. It saved my bacon when my ancient tape drive died. Ken www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messag

RE: VFP marketing

2008-04-19 Thread Bill Arnold
> > Mulling over what I can say, it strikes me to first ask "how can we > > help"? Please don't say it's hopeless, because I'll never believe > > that. > > Ah, the beauty of faith over reason! I know this is a very weak barometer of interest in programming languages, but bear with me for

Re: [OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-19 Thread Pete Theisen
On Saturday 19 April 2008 12:34, Ed Leafe wrote: > ...well, that's how he would be pegged by Fox News if he was around > today. Imagine if they had used their practice of taking sound bites > out of context and playing them over and over, and used that with this > gem: > > http://www.biblegat

Re: [OT] VW to get 80 MPG

2008-04-19 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 18 April 2008 23:48, Michael Madigan wrote: > Oops > > http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news4.18.08d.html Hi Michael! Curious seating layout? http://www.autobloggreen.com/gallery/volkswagen-up-concept/390806/ -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-19 Thread Ken Dibble
>http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/wishlist/wishlist.asp?WishId=48B28B1D-8088-4333-A312-501EE395BEBA&&SRCCODE=WEBWISH Thanks Mike. EVGA GeForce 9800 GX2 Interesting video card. However, the specs say "Microsoft Windows Vista -or- Windows XP" as minimum requirements. I need something that c

[NF: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-19 Thread Ken Dibble
Sorry!!! This should have been [NF]. >Hi folks, > >I'm aware of recent threads concerning machine recommendations. I'm looking >for something a bit different, though, so this should be a sufficiently >fresh topic. Anyway, since everything changes every 5 minutes in this biz, >no such thread can re

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-19 Thread Mike Wohlrab
Well, it is a gaming video card, so it is designed for gamers, who are running the "best" (left to interpretation) operating systems, which is xp / vista. you may be able to get it to work with linux or older versions of windows. I would start by searching the gamers forums or the forums for video

RE: [OT] VW to get 80 MPG

2008-04-19 Thread John Harvey
That's just one possibility. Here's a more standard arrangement: http://www.autobloggreen.com/gallery/volkswagen-up-concept/390807/ JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:46 PM To: ProFox Email Li

RE: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers?

2008-04-19 Thread Rick Schummer
>> UPS & printers ? Isn't that a big no no. ?<< Correct. I have the printer plugged in to a surge protector, and have several UPS throughout the office in the same circuit. Yet, when this printer wakes up it will even dim the lights in the family room (different circuits). The tech support peopl

RE: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers?

2008-04-19 Thread Michael Madigan
It's normal for any laser. --- Rick Schummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> UPS & printers ? Isn't that a big no no. ?<< > > Correct. I have the printer plugged in to a surge > protector, and have several UPS throughout the > office in the same circuit. Yet, when this printer > wakes up it wil