virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Allen
Hi gang. Something I am not used to. I have been asked if my system runs on Virtualised servers. I don't know the answer so I thought I would ask. In fact I'm not even sure what virtualised servers are. help !!! the program uses DBF's, no data dictionaries and all VFP9 SP2 stuff. Al

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Christof Wollenhaupt
A virtualized server is a server that runs on a system like VMWare, Hype-V or Xen. These systems enable the installation on multiple computers on a single physical machine. Such a server looks exactly like a physical server to your application. If your application does not access any special

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Allen pro...@gatwicksoftware.com wrote: In fact I'm not even sure what virtualised servers are. help !!! You are not alone. I've had several customers who were determined to move their app to The Cloud, although they hadn't a clue what that meant. In one

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Allen
Thanks Christof and Ted. It seems to me don't do it is the best advice. But I have a better idea of the answer to give now. It does seem to me that many so called IT guys have had cloud stuck on they little minds as the answer to life the universe etc. I do wonder, as I am trying to translate

RE: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Bob Lee
Just some comments based on my experience with the cloud .. I have become a big proponent of the Cloud, but you have to realize that the cloud is not really virtualized servers which are located in a Colo The cloud is in most cases a SAAS, where you pay a company for the use of the application

RE: Help Desk Software

2013-12-27 Thread Richard Kaye
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RE: [NF] Spiceworks licensing (was RE: Help Desk Software)

2013-12-27 Thread Bob Lee
I am not my company IT, I have used Spiceworks for various tasks / project and worked with the interface, but I am glad to check with my it guys to see how effective the license monitoring system is working for them. I know they use it for things like low toner on printers, and alerts when

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Allen pro...@gatwicksoftware.com wrote: Thanks Christof and Ted. It seems to me don't do it is the best advice. But I have a better idea of the answer to give now. It does seem to me that many so called IT guys have had cloud stuck on they little minds as the

Re: Help Desk Software

2013-12-27 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Bob Lee b...@1amsoftware.com wrote: We use spiceworks Good for not only tracking tickets but also inventory of equipment, documentation of pc's and licenses --- We use Track-It and it works fine for a lot of things. Audits of each computer, PC or

back end

2013-12-27 Thread Rafael Copquin
I've had some experience with MS SQL Server Express as the data engine and have a few applications running live, with VFP9 as the front end and MS SQL as the back end. However, I want to experience how things would work with MySQL, especially because I have a requirement to connect several

Re: back end

2013-12-27 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Rafael Copquin rcopq...@fibertel.com.arwrote: I've had some experience with MS SQL Server Express as the data engine and have a few applications running live, with VFP9 as the front end and MS SQL as the back end. However, I want to experience how things

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Allen
I suppose I am not in the position to say that either to be honest. But they asked if the system will work on virtualisation so I guess I had better get it clarified. Just hope its not citrix. Al -Original Message- I'm usually not in a position with a client to say Don't Do It much

Re: back end

2013-12-27 Thread Frank Cazabon
On 27/12/2013 10:51 AM, Rafael Copquin wrote: I've had some experience with MS SQL Server Express as the data engine and have a few applications running live, with VFP9 as the front end and MS SQL as the back end. MS SQL Server Express does not have replication (or rather, it is not a full

Re: back end

2013-12-27 Thread Rafael Copquin
They do have power backups, but they last about 20 minutes. And yes, the infrastructure is toast, as you say. But going to phone apps is not suitable. These are stores that sell over the counter. They need to issue invoices, control stocks, receivables, payables, cash... As for web apps, I am

RE: back end

2013-12-27 Thread Bob Lee
Take a look at the the MySQL replication documentation and see if it might do what you are looking for. I use it to back up a local in-house database to a cloud hosted server, which is accessible to a variety of websites without being behind my firewall. But your issues appear to be somewhat

RE: [NF] Spiceworks licensing (was RE: Help Desk Software)

2013-12-27 Thread Bob Lee
Checking this morning with my IT they are confirming what you heard : While licensing is part of what Spiceworks claims to offer my tech people are reporting they don’t / and can't rely on that feature. But love it for other reasons, just not the licensing attributes. Bob Lee

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Allen wrote: Hi gang. Something I am not used to. I have been asked if my system runs on Virtualised servers. The correct question to ask is whether it runs on Windows Server whatever, or Linux server distro X or whatever. The fact that the hardware is

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2013-12-27 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
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Re: back end

2013-12-27 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Rafael Copquin rcopq...@fibertel.com.arwrote: They do have power backups, but they last about 20 minutes. And yes, the infrastructure is toast, as you say. But going to phone apps is not suitable. These are stores that sell over the counter. They need to issue

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fmwrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Allen wrote: Hi gang. Something I am not used to. I have been asked if my system runs on Virtualised servers. The correct question to ask is whether it runs on Windows Server

Re: back end

2013-12-27 Thread Rafael Copquin
I've never heard about that! I'll take a look, thank you El 27/12/2013 12:19, Frank Cazabon escribió: On 27/12/2013 10:51 AM, Rafael Copquin wrote: I've had some experience with MS SQL Server Express as the data engine and have a few applications running live, with VFP9 as the front end and

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread kamcgin...@gmail.com
I would trust Christof with the exact definition. Our company and many of our clients are running almost everything from 'cloud' servers now. All our software is written in vfp9 sp2. What we do is not worry about the server hardware or location. We just ask one question: Can we have win2003

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, kamcgin...@gmail.com kamcgin...@gmail.com wrote: I would trust Christof with the exact definition. Our company and many of our clients are running almost everything from 'cloud' servers now. All our software is written in vfp9 sp2. What we do is not worry

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread AndyHC
A multi-user dbf based VFP app does /not/ work very well over a [local] network. The upgrade path I used (and would recommend) if first go to remote views, then migrate to a dbms backend. With the app (and, optionally, dbc) on the users' machines (downloading the app is SLOW - reserve that for

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Paul Hemans
Personally, I have everything running as either RDP or web interfaces. The host can be a VM. I have used Virtualbox a bit. May be not the best but it's free, and can be setup to run as a headless service. What I don't like about RDP is the client access licences, but that is a one-off cost. I

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread Paul Hill
On 27 December 2013 16:43, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fmwrote: I would try to avoid DB home on virtualized environments. RAM, CPU and data bandwidth are harder to pinpoint for tuning in virtual vs a pure iron

RE: [NF] Spiceworks licensing (was RE: Help Desk Software)

2013-12-27 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
On Fri, December 27, 2013 10:38 am, Bob Lee wrote: Checking this morning with my IT they are confirming what you heard : While licensing is part of what Spiceworks claims to offer my tech people are reporting they don’t / and can't rely on that feature. But love it for other reasons, just not

How to prevent form resizing horizontally

2013-12-27 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
VFP9SP2 I want this form to be allowed to be resized vertically but not horizontally. I know there's a trick to this, done in the Mover event perhaps? tia, --Mike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

RE: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
On Fri, December 27, 2013 9:29 am, Bob Lee wrote: but you can't expect a VFP app to work the same over this type of internet environment as well as an in house local network. ...if it's using DBFs. My apps that use MySQL over the internet kick ass. Just sayin'. And you're the man I thank

Re: How to prevent form resizing horizontally

2013-12-27 Thread Mike Copeland
Just set the min and max width values to whatever size you want it to be. Done. Mike C Original Message Subject: How to prevent form resizing horizontally From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date:

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
On Fri, December 27, 2013 12:42 pm, AndyHC wrote: A multi-user dbf based VFP app does /not/ work very well over a [local] network. The upgrade path I used (and would recommend) if first go to remote views, then migrate to a dbms backend. With the app (and, optionally, dbc) on the users'

Re: How to prevent form resizing horizontally

2013-12-27 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
On Sat, December 28, 2013 12:18 am, Mike Copeland wrote: Just set the min and max width values to whatever size you want it to be. Done. Sheesh. Yep...it was even easier than I thought! Thanks! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread AndyHC
You really need to [re-]design your apps as client server, and minimise network data transfer. This can be difficult for browses and reports - you can/should use views/SPT to minimise data download but an old style 'Monthly Report' can still end up with most of the db coming over the net. On

Re: virtualised servers

2013-12-27 Thread AndyHC
On 28/12/2013 11:00, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: On Fri, December 27, 2013 12:42 pm, AndyHC wrote: A multi-user dbf based VFP app does /not/ work very well over a [local] network. The upgrade path I used (and would recommend) if first go to remote views, then migrate to a dbms