Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-07 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 06 November 2006 18:57, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: El Lunes 06 Noviembre 2006 17:00, Pete Theisen escribió: snip But I endured 7 years of military dictatorship, 60,000 missing people, my wife's grandmom kidnapped (by the state forces), raped, tortured (electricity, submarine,

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-07 Thread Pete Theisen
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 07:34, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: El Martes 07 Noviembre 2006 08:58, Pete Theisen escribió: Hi Ricardo! So there is some evidence but it is not enough to be proof. Well you sound like a lawyer. And I told you I was not one. The press here reports in those terms,

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-07 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El Martes 07 Noviembre 2006 15:34, Pete Theisen escribió: Well you sound like a lawyer. And I told you I was not one. The press here reports in those terms, we get used to using that kind of language ourselves. You mean to tell me that you don't get a say in the language you use? That

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-07 Thread Pete Theisen
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 20:52, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: El Martes 07 Noviembre 2006 15:34, Pete Theisen escribió: snip The press here reports in those terms, we get used to using that kind of language ourselves. You mean to tell me that you don't get a say in the language you use? That you

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-06 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 03 November 2006 19:13, Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 3, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: Removing the ass holes from Washington is the best step we could make. Washington, like Nature, abhors a vacuum. Remove the current assholes, and they will soon be replaced by others.

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-06 Thread Pete Theisen
On Saturday 04 November 2006 08:15, Ed Leafe wrote: snip Does that accurately reflect what you've been saying? No, of course not. But that's how your writing looks to everyone else. Hi Ed! Everyoneelse includes me, so I guess you have told me what my preceptions are. Odd that you hit

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-06 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El Lunes 06 Noviembre 2006 17:00, Pete Theisen escribió: On Saturday 04 November 2006 06:02, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: El Sábado 04 Noviembre 2006 00:43, Virgil Bierschwale escribió: And you base your understanding of what is happening in iraq from the actual people serving over there or

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time! El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 22:04, Virgil Bierschwale escribió: Interesting concept.. A thief breaks into your house and steals your possessions and kills your family. Oh, I see! A metaphor! Lets see

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
://www.bierschwale.com http://www.virgilslist.com - Original Message - From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time! El Sábado 04 Noviembre 2006 00:43, Virgil Bierschwale escribió: And you base your understanding of what

RE: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Stephen the Cook
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Then you should understand why we are in iraq removing a dictatorship that did the same thing. I really don't believe that this is the reason we did what we did. Sorry. In the situation of a strong person who did keep the fear/peace in a place, we goofed in

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote: Do you think that creating three republics in place of the one super state is a good idea? To right the wrong from the end of World War I. Been reading T.E. Lawrence lately? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 3, 2006, at 8:54 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: very simple, you want to replace leaders that are doing a damn good job with leaders such as kerry who will give in to all kinds of agreements the world over just so the extremists will stay overseas. Again, you insist on making up a

RE: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote: Do you think that creating three republics in place of the one super state is a good idea? To right the wrong from the end of World War I. Been reading T.E. Lawrence lately? I got Seven Pillars almost 3 years

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote: I got Seven Pillars almost 3 years ago. Got one for my Nephew who is a Marine Capt before his first tour. A friend had one so I borrowed it. How does the saying go, the more things change the more they stay the same? In this case, it

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
- From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time! On Nov 3, 2006, at 8:54 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: very simple, you want to replace leaders that are doing a damn good job with leaders

[OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Ed Leafe
As the critical mid-term elections approach, it's time for everyone concerned with reversing this march toward endless war and imperial executive power to get involved. There are two get-out-the-vote drives being coordinated by MoveOn.org as we head into this last weekend. The first is

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
http://www.virgilslist.com - Original Message - From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Mailing List profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: [OT] Crunch time! As the critical mid-term elections approach, it's time for everyone concerned with reversing

RE: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Stephen the Cook
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Do you honestly believe that because you throw in the towel, that the muslim extremists will stop what they are doing ? Removing the ass holes from Washington is the best step we could make. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 3, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Do you honestly believe that because you throw in the towel, that the muslim extremists will stop what they are doing ? Do you honestly believe that your question has any resemblance to what myself and others who oppose the Bush

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 3, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: Removing the ass holes from Washington is the best step we could make. Washington, like Nature, abhors a vacuum. Remove the current assholes, and they will soon be replaced by others. The only hope is to regularly wipe them clean. ;-)

RE: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 3, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: Removing the ass holes from Washington is the best step we could make. Washington, like Nature, abhors a vacuum. Remove the current assholes, and they will soon be replaced by others. The only hope is to

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
://www.bierschwale.com http://www.virgilslist.com - Original Message - From: Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Crunch time! Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Do you honestly believe that because

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time! On Nov 3, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Do you honestly believe that because you throw in the towel, that the muslim extremists will stop what they are doing ? Do you honestly believe that your question has

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 3, 2006, at 7:50 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Actually Ed, I like you, but I don't think you have a clue what is involved in running a large corporation such as the government and your arm chair quarterbacking does require some reining in from time to time. Sorry that you

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
://www.bierschwalesolutions.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.virgilslist.com - Original Message - From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time! El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 20:34, Virgil Bierschwale escribió: Do you

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time! On Nov 3, 2006, at 7:50 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Actually Ed, I like you, but I don't think you have a clue what is involved in running a large corporation such as the government and your arm chair

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 3, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: What do you consider dishonest about what I said ? I sure don't see it here. Throw in the towel Your words, not mine. Mine don't even come close to that. Do you want to explain why you characterize my words as

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 03 November 2006 18:01, Ed Leafe wrote: As the critical mid-term elections approach, it's time for everyone concerned with reversing this march toward endless war and imperial executive power to get involved. There are two get-out-the-vote drives Hi Ed! Gee, I do the same

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 03 November 2006 19:12, Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 3, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Do you honestly believe that because you throw in the towel, that the muslim extremists will stop what they are doing ? Do you honestly believe that your question has any

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 03 November 2006 19:13, Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 3, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: Removing the ass holes from Washington is the best step we could make. Washington, like Nature, abhors a vacuum. Remove the current assholes, and they will soon be replaced by others.

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time! On Nov 3, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: What do you consider dishonest about what I said ? I sure don't see it here. Throw in the towel Your words, not mine

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
- From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time! El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 20:34, Virgil Bierschwale escribió: Do you honestly believe that because you throw in the towel, that the muslim extremists

Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-03 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.virgilslist.com - Original Message - From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time! El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 22:04, Virgil Bierschwale escribió: Interesting concept