RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-09 Thread Stephen the Cook
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Amen!!! And, Baruch Atah Adonai!!! Who hear the word of God. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good." ---Unknown http://spaces.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-09 Thread Helio W.
Ramen! On 5/9/07, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Amen!!! And, Baruch Atah Adonai!!! > > v/r > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-09 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:51 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Ed Leafe <> wrote: > On May 7, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Helio W. wrote: > >> My answer to him was, "John, when people thought the earth was flat, >> t

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-09 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe <> wrote: > On May 7, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Helio W. wrote: > >> My answer to him was, "John, when people thought the earth was flat, >> they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they >> were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is >> just as wrong

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 7, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Helio W. wrote: > My answer to him was, "John, when people thought the earth was flat, > they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they > were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is > just as wrong as thinking the earth is fl

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-07 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 07 May 2007 3:47 am, Helio W. wrote: > Isaac Asimov - The Skeptical Inquirer, Vol. 14 No. 1, Fall 1989 > The Relativity of Wrong > pg.. 35-44 > > http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm > > I RECEIVED a letter the other day. It was handwritten in crabbed > penmanship

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-07 Thread Helio W.
Isaac Asimov - The Skeptical Inquirer, Vol. 14 No. 1, Fall 1989 The Relativity of Wrong pg.. 35-44 http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm I RECEIVED a letter the other day. It was handwritten in crabbed penmanship so that it was very difficult to read. Nevertheless, I tried

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-06 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 06 May 2007 12:28 pm, Jean Laeremans wrote: > On 5/6/07, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I do not doubt your assertion that his content was meaningless. However, > > the newsreels that have survived show a very enthusiastic audience > > reaction. > > Ever heard about propagand

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-06 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/6/07, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jean! > > I do not doubt your assertion that his content was meaningless. However, the > newsreels that have survived show a very enthusiastic audience reaction. Ever heard about propaganda ? Watch some Stalin speeches from the same era > >

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-06 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 06 May 2007 5:39 am, Jean Laeremans wrote: > On 5/6/07, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He we are again valuing form over substance. > > > > The finest politician orator in modern times was Adolf > > Hitler. The second was Bill Clinton > > Not by any stretch of the imagina

RE: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
ssage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:46 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too On Sunday 06 May 2007 12:03 am, William Sanders / EFG wrote: > Yak. >

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-06 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/6/07, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He we are again valuing form over substance. > > The finest politician orator in modern times was Adolf > Hitler. The second was Bill Clinton > Not by any stretch of the imagination 1. Churchill followed closely by Degaulle If you ever l

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Michael Madigan
He we are again valuing form over substance. The finest politician orator in modern times was Adolf Hitler. The second was Bill Clinton The first was able to persuade, with his oratory skills, a nation into gassing six million countrymen and turning them into soap. The second was able to persua

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 06 May 2007 12:03 am, William Sanders / EFG wrote: > Yak. > with a war between Pete and Ricardo - Hi Bill! Oh, it doesn't rise to war. There are several key issues, R vs D, and I don't consider GWB's English usage or deficit thereof to be of interest outside of those who have gotten w

[OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Yak. with a war between Pete and Ricardo - > > George W. Bush is literate. > Maybe according to YOUR standards. Oh yeah, as though the leftist critics are any judge. -- Regards, Pete --- Pete - bless your heart. I know yer a staunch 'R, I used to be one, prior to GWB becoming the guv o

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Saturday 05 May 2007 1:07 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: >> Pete Theisen wrote: >>> On Friday 04 May 2007 7:02 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: >>> >>> > The President has to be a natural born citizen Meaning he can not come from artificial insemination? >>> Hi Ricardo! >>> >>>

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Saturday 05 May 2007 1:07 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > Pete Theisen wrote: > > On Friday 04 May 2007 7:02 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > > > > > >>> The President has to be a natural born citizen > >> > >> Meaning he can not come from artificial insemination? > > > > Hi Ricardo! > > > > When the cons

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Friday 04 May 2007 7:02 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > >>> The President has to be a natural born citizen >> Meaning he can not come from artificial insemination? > > Hi Ricardo! > > When the constitution was written this was not a consideration. It means that > he/she has

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 04 May 2007 7:02 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > > The President has to be a natural born citizen > Meaning he can not come from artificial insemination? Hi Ricardo! When the constitution was written this was not a consideration. It means that he/she has to be born within the United States

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Oh yeah, with all the "flying spaghetti monster" posts, It's just this believer that they hate. --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: > > Not specifically talking about Derek, but there > are > > some on this list who believe the "belief in God" > is > > ignorant.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote: > Not specifically talking about Derek, but there are > some on this list who believe the "belief in God" is > ignorant. That's a great example of "intellectual" > snobbery. No, Mikey. They just don't believe in god and they think YOU are ignorant. > > > --- Virgil B

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 03 May 2007 8:38 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > *You*, intellectual as you may be, would be hard pressed to find *any* > Texans who would find offensive what you claim they would. You mean because they can't read? ;c) >>> I don't mean that at all. The majo

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
---Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jerry Wolper > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:29 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too > > > But that it's happening on Mars a

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Do you think Leland knows what "invective" means? LOL --- "Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When was the last time you heard someone from New > York use the > term > 'intellectual' as an invective? > > Only Texans would find that offensive. > >

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
When I went to school, it was said that two items of different mass dropped from an identical height in a vacuum, would each land at the same time. I believe I heard that that is no longer valid. --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Helio W. wrote: > > Also I meant that gravity is

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Rumour has it that he stole it from the Gay Japanese. --- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Legend has it that Edison was not an inventor, but a > crook who stealed > other people's ideas. > > On 5/2/07, Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > > > Open you

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
It's a theory since you can't possibly measure the gravity on every planet in the universe. When I was in HS, we learned that there were 3 states of matter. liquid,solid, and gas. Now since graduating, they've added plasma to that. And now, there may even be a 5th state. http://www.edinformati

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
seems like ya'll were discussing it once in the past, but I was offline for a few months so I never saw how it turned out.. I know most of the corporations I've worked at, the chairs have been comfortable all day long. But the chairs I buy at your typical home office store for around 200 bucks

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
If that doesn't involve shutting down industry while we wait for a cleaner solution. Global Warming is all about moving the third-world into the first-world, not about preventing a global meltdown. I agree with you that we should be moving towards wind, solar and other environmentally-friendly

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2007-05-04 Thread Derek Kalweit
> Does anybody have a great suggestion for an office chair. > All the one's i've bought from officemax just plain arent comfortable > for 16 hrs at a time.. > > can't really afford one of the herman miller aeron's, but I'm definitely > looking for a comfortable office chair that doesnt cut off the

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Derek Kalweit
> Not specifically talking about Derek, but there are > some on this list who believe the "belief in God" is > ignorant. That's a great example of "intellectual" > snobbery. Many would be quite surprised what I believe regarding God, science, etc... Not something I share with many people, though.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Yes, you have a grasp on reality. It's Virgil who is the insulting one. LMAO --- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Virgil Bierschwale > wrote: > > > every widely accepted theory has been disproven > once a new and better > > theory came into place. > > Gr

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
We may be mixing terminology, but Scientists believed the world was flat Scientists believed the Earth was the center of the Universe Scientists believed that the Giant Panda and Gorilla were both figments of the imagination. Scientists believed the Coelacanth was extinct Now scientists believ

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
We may be mixing terminology, but Scientists believed the world was flat Scientists believed the Earth was the center of the Universe Scientists believed that the Giant Panda and Gorilla were both figments of the imagination. Scientists believed the Coelacanth was extinct Now scientists believ

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Not specifically talking about Derek, but there are some on this list who believe the "belief in God" is ignorant. That's a great example of "intellectual" snobbery. --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only because you choose to believe they are stupid. > Open your mind and assu

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
I'm sure only the "greats" you disagree with. --- Derek Kalweit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > About time you stopped putting your foot in your > mouth... > > > Whats that saying ? > > Ye of closed minds ? > > It's saying you're rivaling some of the Profox OT > 'greats' at saying > blatantly

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
I believe Jerry Cotton labeled him, "bright boy". LOL > On May 4, 2007, at 10:25 AM, Virgil Bierschwale > wrote: > > > The funny thing about thinking of yourself as an > intellectual or smart > > or any such thing is that is simply a form of > snobbishness. Right Wing, Conservative and Republic

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
That ain't no lie. Vince Teachout wrote: > Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > > >> By the way, friday down here means bbq, beer and bikini's because its >> starting to get hot... >> > > Virg, please don't take this the wrong way, but you're going to look > damn silly in a bikini. > > > > >

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Vince Teachout
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > > By the way, friday down here means bbq, beer and bikini's because its > starting to get hot... Virg, please don't take this the wrong way, but you're going to look damn silly in a bikini. -- Vince Teachout Caracal Software www.caracal.net 518-733-9411 _

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
You ever hear that ole expression about a person "Who can't see the forest for the trees" ? Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 4, 2007, at 10:25 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > > >> The funny thing about thinking of yourself as an intellectual or smart >> or any such thing is that is simply a form of sn

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 4, 2007, at 10:25 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > The funny thing about thinking of yourself as an intellectual or smart > or any such thing is that is simply a form of snobbishness. That's ridiculous. Making the effort to educate oneself, whether through formal schooling or othe

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
not me.. been too busy moving and trying to get my office set back up.. Does anybody have a great suggestion for an office chair. All the one's i've bought from officemax just plain arent comfortable for 16 hrs at a time.. can't really afford one of the herman miller aeron's, but I'm definitely

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Vince Teachout
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > We all put our pants on one leg at a time. Not me! I hang my pants up between 2 chairs when I go to bed at night. In the morning, I jump off the bed, into the pants, both legs at once, saving roughly 20 seconds over the traditional way of putting on pants. It is

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
The funny thing about thinking of yourself as an intellectual or smart or any such thing is that is simply a form of snobbishness. We all put our pants on one leg at a time. I'm not comparing myself to them, but some of the greatest minds in the world never had more then a grade school or high

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Nicholas Geti
Ed, Yeah, except every reply is more absurd than the previous ones. - Original Message - From: "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ProFox Email List" Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too > On May 3, 20

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 03 May 2007 8:38 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > >>> *You*, intellectual as you may be, would be hard pressed to find *any* > >>> Texans who would find offensive what you claim they would. > >> > >> You mean because they can't read? ;c) > > I don't mean that at all. The majority of Texans ca

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Robert Calco
On May 3, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > No amount of > proof, though, can ever turn a Theory into a Law. True enough; but Congress can, and that's precisely the concern that gave birth to this thread in the first place. :) - Bob > > -- Ed Leafe > -- http://leafe.com > -- http://dabod

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 03 May 2007 6:41 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > >>> *You*, intellectual as you may be, would be hard pressed to find *any* >>> Texans who would find offensive what you claim they would. >> You mean because they can't read? ;c) > > Hi Ricardo! > > I don't mean that a

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 03 May 2007 6:41 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > > *You*, intellectual as you may be, would be hard pressed to find *any* > > Texans who would find offensive what you claim they would. > > You mean because they can't read? ;c) Hi Ricardo! I don't mean that at all. The majority of Texans c

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 03 May 2007 7:45 am, Ed Leafe wrote: >> On May 3, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: >>> >>> When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the >>> term >>> 'intellectual' as an invective? >>> >>> Only Texans would find

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
; Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:21 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too > > Ed Leaf

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 3, 2007, at 5:59 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: > You are feeding a troll. You can't win. You're probably right, but I guess given the fact that he isn't normally a troll, he might realize at some point that he was posting utterly absurd statements. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Nicholas Geti
Ed, You are feeding a troll. You can't win. - Original Message - From: "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ProFox Email List" Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too > On May 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Vir

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 03 May 2007 7:45 am, Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 3, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > > > > When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the > > term > > 'intellectual' as an invective? > > > > Only Texans would find that offensive. > > >

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 3, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Eurico Chagas Filho wrote: > What r the differences among theory, law, principle and hypothesis ? > If the theory of Relativity has been proven, why it's not a law ? Laws can only describe physical events. Explanations can never be Laws; the pinnacle that an

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/3/07, Eurico Chagas Filho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, now I am officially confused. > What r the differences among theory, law, principle and hypothesis ? > If the theory of Relativity has been proven, why it's not a law ? > > E. http://physics.about.com/od/physics101thebasics/a/hypothes

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Vince Teachout
Eurico Chagas Filho wrote: > Ok, now I am officially confused. > What r the differences among theory, law, principle and hypothesis ? > If the theory of Relativity has been proven, why it's not a law ? > > E. > From that website posted earlier (http://wilstar.com/theories.htm) : The biggest di

[OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
Ok, now I am officially confused. What r the differences among theory, law, principle and hypothesis ? If the theory of Relativity has been proven, why it's not a law ? E. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Rel

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Vince Teachout
Hal Kaplan wrote: > Too bad gravity does not have an effect on threads here on this list. > If it did, we could test it by dropping the thread. > > My prediction (not theory) is that it would bounce, if we did. > I think you are all taking Virgil too literally. > That's really the problem

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Vince Teachout
Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 3, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > > >> >> Only Texans would find that offensive. >> >> >> Gee, Ed. You are living dangerously ... remember, Leland reads this >> list, too. >> > > An intellectual would understand that that

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/3/07, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jean, mon ami, you seem to have chosen the wrong opiate. The side effects > are quite unbecoming. You should try to find one that makes you comfortable > without being so insecure that you cannot accept a difference of opinion. > > B+ > HALinN

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Hal Kaplan
=> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans =>  => Spoken like a true believer...science reduced to a fairy tale =>  => A+ => jml =>  Jean, mon ami, you seem to have chosen the wrong opiate. The side effects are quite unbecoming. You should try to find one that makes you comfortabl

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/3/07, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Too bad gravity does not have an effect on threads here on this list. > If it did, we could test it by dropping the thread. > > I think you are all taking Virgil too literally. Theories come and go. > Many theories are simply highly-educated guess

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
Hal Kaplan Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:47 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Too bad gravity does not have an effect on threads here on this list. If it did, we could test it by dropping the thread. I think you are all taking Virgil too literally

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Hal Kaplan
Too bad gravity does not have an effect on threads here on this list. If it did, we could test it by dropping the thread. I think you are all taking Virgil too literally. Theories come and go. Many theories are simply highly-educated guesses. The masses (people) must be comfortable with their pl

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 3, 2007, at 8:50 AM, David Crooks wrote: > There is the Law of Gravity: > http://wilstar.com/theories.htm The Law describes the behavior. The Theory attempts to explain the behavior. We can all observe an item being dropped and measure its acceleration. We can all meas

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread David Crooks
On Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:39 PM Ed Leafe wrote: > Force is something that is directly measurable. Gravity is a theory that attempts to explain that force. >The force is a fact; gravity is a theory that explains the observed facts very well. There is the Law of Gravity: http://wilstar.co

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
gt; 6th MDG Information System Security Officer > Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:21 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT]

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
eorge Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > >> Actually not. "the gravitational force is proportional to the mass of >> the objects being measured" is a FACT, an observational fact. The why >> this happens

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 3, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > > When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the > term > 'intellectual' as an invective? > > Only Texans would find that offensive. > > > Gee, Ed. You are living dangerously ... remember, Leland

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Wolper Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:29 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too > But that it's happening on Mars as well as earth in nearly >

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the term 'intellectual' as an invective? Only Texans would find that offensive. Gee, Ed. You are living dangerously ... remember, Leland reads this list, too. v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Da

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/3/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is far from settled, though. There is nothing that reliably > explains *how* gravity works, and how it works over such huge distances. > Maybe the CERN experiments planned for november 2007 will shed some light on this subject. http://ti

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Vince Teachout
> On Wednesday 02 May 2007 6:11 pm, Ed Leafe wrote: > >> On May 2, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: >> >>> As you said, ignorance is not something to be proud of, even in New >>> York >>> City >>> >> When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the term

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > >> Actually not. "the gravitational force is proportional to the mass of >> the objects being measured" is a FACT, an observational fact. The why >> this happens may be a theory, but it is a FACT that a force (remember >> 'force'

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Pete Theisen
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 6:11 pm, Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > > As you said, ignorance is not something to be proud of, even in New > > York > > City > > When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the term > 'intellectual' as an in

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > Actually not. "the gravitational force is proportional to the mass of > the objects being measured" is a FACT, an observational fact. The why > this happens may be a theory, but it is a FACT that a force (remember > 'force' is not a 'thing' but a

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Helio W. wrote: > Also I meant that gravity is deeply related to matter, although you're > right about matter -> mass -> gravity! > > On 5/2/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On May 2, 2007, at 7:06 PM, Helio W. wrote: >> >>> Gravity is a property of matter, so you will never discover a p

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Helio W.
Also I meant that gravity is deeply related to matter, although you're right about matter -> mass -> gravity! On 5/2/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 7:06 PM, Helio W. wrote: > > > Gravity is a property of matter, so you will never discover a planet > > without gravity.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Helio W.
Ok, I stand corrected! (did I use the correct expression?) I meant that gravity is not just a "simple idea, a simple guess". But you're right, it's a scientific theory! On 5/2/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 7:06 PM, Helio W. wrote: > > > Gravity is not just a theory

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
How do you know you will never discover a planet without gravity ? Have you or anybody been to all of them ? I thought you were finally starting to open your mind when you said "sometimes it happens" Trust me, we do not have all the answers because we don't even have the questions. Look at the

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 7:06 PM, Helio W. wrote: > Gravity is not just a theory. Yes, it is. Although I wonder why you used the word 'just'. In science, it is extremely difficult to attain the status of Theory. > Gravity is a property of matter, so you will never discover a planet > without

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Stephen the Cook
Helio W. <> wrote: > Legend has it that Edison was not an inventor, but a crook who > stealed other people's ideas. Today we call him Bill Gates. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Helio W.
Legend has it that Edison was not an inventor, but a crook who stealed other people's ideas. On 5/2/07, Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > > Open your brain ed. > > you're an intelligent man. > > > > The man that invented the lightbulb failed a 1,000 times is wh

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > >> There is no difference > > And therein lies your problem. > > Ignorance is not something to be proud of, even in Texas. > Now you're being foolish Ed. Everybody knows that in Texas, ignorance is a prerequi

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > Open your brain ed. > you're an intelligent man. > > The man that invented the lightbulb failed a 1,000 times is what I read. > Each time, he had a different theory. > Each theory turned out to be wrong until he got it right. > > History proved his theory right, not hi

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Robert Calco wrote: > Perhaps you simply are uneducated about earth's elliptical orbit > around the sun that becomes, as it were, more or less so based on > where it is in a known cycle? Perhaps you saw those drawings for kids about earth's orbit. But if you can get a real scale picture of the

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Helio W.
It doesn't mean that the already accumulated knowledge will be replaced by totally different theories. Sometimes it happens, but Science has a firm grasp on a multitude of phenomena. Gravity is not just a theory. It's very far from being totally understood, but what we already know explains a lot

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
have you ever thought those items that you mentioned are in their infancy ? Has it never crossed your mind that time will bring about better things ? Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > > >> every widely accepted theory has been disproven once a new and bet

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Jerry Wolper
> But that it's happening on Mars as well as earth in nearly > identical temperature shifts over a similar period of time should > be a clue to you morons who think CO2 emissions somehow explain it > all that you might be mistaking a symptom for a cause, which is all > those of us who aren't read

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > As you said, ignorance is not something to be proud of, even in New > York > City When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the term 'intellectual' as an invective? Only Texans would find that offensive.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > every widely accepted theory has been disproven once a new and better > theory came into place. Gravity. Atoms. Infection via microorganisms. Electro-magnetism. Shall I continue? Or should I wait for you to enlighten us as t

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
every widely accepted theory has been disproven once a new and better theory came into place. But I can see that I waste my time with those that can't see past the end of their nose. Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > > >> Explain the difference. >> As

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Only because you choose to believe they are stupid. Open your mind and assume that you do not know everything. Derek Kalweit wrote: >>> About time you stopped putting your foot in your mouth... >>> > > >> Whats that saying ? >> Ye of closed minds ? >> > > It's saying you're rivaling

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > Explain the difference. > As you said, ignorance is not something to be proud of, even in New > York > City Gee, I wish I still had my son's 7th grade science book, where all of this stuff was covered. A quick lookup in

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
you havent heard a thing I said. Every IC inside of that computer is a sum result of millions of theories about what would work and what wouldnt over a period of years. Many theories failed. The ones that worked made their way into the next batch of theories. The ones that worked were proven corre

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Derek Kalweit
> > About time you stopped putting your foot in your mouth... > Whats that saying ? > Ye of closed minds ? It's saying you're rivaling some of the Profox OT 'greats' at saying blatantly stupid things. :-) -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Helio W.
Virgil, The computer you're using was built on some of the "theories" you probably think are false... Beware, if somebody prove them wrong, your computer will suddently stop working... On 5/2/07, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whats that saying ? > Ye of closed minds ? > > Jean

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Whats that saying ? Ye of closed minds ? Jean Laeremans wrote: > On 5/2/07, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There is no difference >> >> > About time you stopped putting your foot in your mouth... > > A+ > jml > > [excessive quoting removed by server] __

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Explain the difference. As you said, ignorance is not something to be proud of, even in New York City See, the difference between us is that I know that I do not know everything and I've learned over the years not to believe things because somebody says it is so. How many theories do you know a

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