RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-09 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On May 7, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Helio W. wrote: My answer to him was, John, when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-09 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:51 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Ed Leafe wrote: On May 7, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Helio W. wrote: My answer to him was, John, when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-09 Thread Helio W.
Ramen! On 5/9/07, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen!!! And, Baruch Atah Adonai!!! v/r ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-09 Thread Stephen the Cook
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen!!! And, Baruch Atah Adonai!!! Who hear the word of God. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 7, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Helio W. wrote: My answer to him was, John, when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat,

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-07 Thread Helio W.
Isaac Asimov - The Skeptical Inquirer, Vol. 14 No. 1, Fall 1989 The Relativity of Wrong pg.. 35-44 http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm I RECEIVED a letter the other day. It was handwritten in crabbed penmanship so that it was very difficult to read. Nevertheless, I tried

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-07 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 07 May 2007 3:47 am, Helio W. wrote: Isaac Asimov - The Skeptical Inquirer, Vol. 14 No. 1, Fall 1989 The Relativity of Wrong pg.. 35-44 http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm I RECEIVED a letter the other day. It was handwritten in crabbed penmanship so that

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-06 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/6/07, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He we are again valuing form over substance. The finest politician orator in modern times was Adolf Hitler. The second was Bill Clinton Not by any stretch of the imagination 1. Churchill followed closely by Degaulle If you ever

RE: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:46 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too On Sunday 06 May 2007 12:03 am, William Sanders / EFG wrote: Yak. with a war between Pete

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-06 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 06 May 2007 5:39 am, Jean Laeremans wrote: On 5/6/07, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He we are again valuing form over substance. The finest politician orator in modern times was Adolf Hitler. The second was Bill Clinton Not by any stretch of the imagination 1.

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-06 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/6/07, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jean! I do not doubt your assertion that his content was meaningless. However, the newsreels that have survived show a very enthusiastic audience reaction. Ever heard about propaganda ? Watch some Stalin speeches from the same era What,

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Friday 04 May 2007 7:02 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip The President has to be a natural born citizen Meaning he can not come from artificial insemination? Hi Ricardo! When the constitution was written this was not a consideration. It means that he/she has to be

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Saturday 05 May 2007 1:07 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Friday 04 May 2007 7:02 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip The President has to be a natural born citizen Meaning he can not come from artificial insemination? Hi Ricardo! When the constitution was written

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Saturday 05 May 2007 1:07 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Friday 04 May 2007 7:02 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip The President has to be a natural born citizen Meaning he can not come from artificial insemination? Hi Ricardo! When the constitution

[OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Yak. with a war between Pete and Ricardo - George W. Bush is literate. Maybe according to YOUR standards. Oh yeah, as though the leftist critics are any judge. -- Regards, Pete --- Pete - bless your heart. I know yer a staunch 'R, I used to be one, prior to GWB becoming the guv o

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 06 May 2007 12:03 am, William Sanders / EFG wrote: Yak. with a war between Pete and Ricardo - Hi Bill! Oh, it doesn't rise to war. There are several key issues, R vs D, and I don't consider GWB's English usage or deficit thereof to be of interest outside of those who have gotten

Re: [OT] Use of Language, was Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-05 Thread Michael Madigan
He we are again valuing form over substance. The finest politician orator in modern times was Adolf Hitler. The second was Bill Clinton The first was able to persuade, with his oratory skills, a nation into gassing six million countrymen and turning them into soap. The second was able to

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Nicholas Geti
Ed, Yeah, except every reply is more absurd than the previous ones. - Original Message - From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too On May 3, 2007, at 5:59 PM

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
The funny thing about thinking of yourself as an intellectual or smart or any such thing is that is simply a form of snobbishness. We all put our pants on one leg at a time. I'm not comparing myself to them, but some of the greatest minds in the world never had more then a grade school or high

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
You ever hear that ole expression about a person Who can't see the forest for the trees ? Ed Leafe wrote: On May 4, 2007, at 10:25 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: The funny thing about thinking of yourself as an intellectual or smart or any such thing is that is simply a form of

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Vince Teachout
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: By the way, friday down here means bbq, beer and bikini's because its starting to get hot... Virg, please don't take this the wrong way, but you're going to look damn silly in a bikini. -- Vince Teachout Caracal Software www.caracal.net 518-733-9411

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
That ain't no lie. Vince Teachout wrote: Virgil Bierschwale wrote: By the way, friday down here means bbq, beer and bikini's because its starting to get hot... Virg, please don't take this the wrong way, but you're going to look damn silly in a bikini.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
I believe Jerry Cotton labeled him, bright boy. LOL On May 4, 2007, at 10:25 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: The funny thing about thinking of yourself as an intellectual or smart or any such thing is that is simply a form of snobbishness. Right Wing, Conservative and Republican Gear!

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
I'm sure only the greats you disagree with. --- Derek Kalweit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About time you stopped putting your foot in your mouth... Whats that saying ? Ye of closed minds ? It's saying you're rivaling some of the Profox OT 'greats' at saying blatantly stupid things.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Not specifically talking about Derek, but there are some on this list who believe the belief in God is ignorant. That's a great example of intellectual snobbery. --- Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only because you choose to believe they are stupid. Open your mind and assume that

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
We may be mixing terminology, but Scientists believed the world was flat Scientists believed the Earth was the center of the Universe Scientists believed that the Giant Panda and Gorilla were both figments of the imagination. Scientists believed the Coelacanth was extinct Now scientists

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
We may be mixing terminology, but Scientists believed the world was flat Scientists believed the Earth was the center of the Universe Scientists believed that the Giant Panda and Gorilla were both figments of the imagination. Scientists believed the Coelacanth was extinct Now scientists

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Yes, you have a grasp on reality. It's Virgil who is the insulting one. LMAO --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: every widely accepted theory has been disproven once a new and better theory came into place. Gravity.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Derek Kalweit
Not specifically talking about Derek, but there are some on this list who believe the belief in God is ignorant. That's a great example of intellectual snobbery. Many would be quite surprised what I believe regarding God, science, etc... Not something I share with many people, though... --

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Derek Kalweit
Does anybody have a great suggestion for an office chair. All the one's i've bought from officemax just plain arent comfortable for 16 hrs at a time.. can't really afford one of the herman miller aeron's, but I'm definitely looking for a comfortable office chair that doesnt cut off the

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
If that doesn't involve shutting down industry while we wait for a cleaner solution. Global Warming is all about moving the third-world into the first-world, not about preventing a global meltdown. I agree with you that we should be moving towards wind, solar and other environmentally-friendly

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
seems like ya'll were discussing it once in the past, but I was offline for a few months so I never saw how it turned out.. I know most of the corporations I've worked at, the chairs have been comfortable all day long. But the chairs I buy at your typical home office store for around 200 bucks

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
It's a theory since you can't possibly measure the gravity on every planet in the universe. When I was in HS, we learned that there were 3 states of matter. liquid,solid, and gas. Now since graduating, they've added plasma to that. And now, there may even be a 5th state.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Rumour has it that he stole it from the Gay Japanese. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Legend has it that Edison was not an inventor, but a crook who stealed other people's ideas. On 5/2/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Open your brain ed.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
When I went to school, it was said that two items of different mass dropped from an identical height in a vacuum, would each land at the same time. I believe I heard that that is no longer valid. --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Helio W. wrote: Also I meant that gravity is

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Do you think Leland knows what invective means? LOL --- Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the term 'intellectual' as an invective? Only Texans would find that offensive. snip Gee,

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Wolper Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:29 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too But that it's happening on Mars as well as earth in nearly identical temperature shifts over a similar period of time should be a clue to you morons who think CO2

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Thursday 03 May 2007 8:38 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: *You*, intellectual as you may be, would be hard pressed to find *any* Texans who would find offensive what you claim they would. You mean because they can't read? ;c) I don't mean that at all. The majority of Texans

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote: Not specifically talking about Derek, but there are some on this list who believe the belief in God is ignorant. That's a great example of intellectual snobbery. No, Mikey. They just don't believe in god and they think YOU are ignorant. --- Virgil Bierschwale

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-04 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 04 May 2007 7:02 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip The President has to be a natural born citizen Meaning he can not come from artificial insemination? Hi Ricardo! When the constitution was written this was not a consideration. It means that he/she has to be born within the United

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/3/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is far from settled, though. There is nothing that reliably explains *how* gravity works, and how it works over such huge distances. Maybe the CERN experiments planned for november 2007 will shed some light on this subject.

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Wolper Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:29 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too But that it's happening on Mars as well as earth in nearly identical

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 3, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: snip When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the term 'intellectual' as an invective? Only Texans would find that offensive. snip Gee, Ed. You are living dangerously ... remember, Leland

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Ed Leafe wrote: On May 2, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Actually not. the gravitational force is proportional to the mass of the objects being measured is a FACT, an observational fact. The why this happens may be a theory, but it is a FACT that a force

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:21 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Ed Leafe wrote: On May 2, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread David Crooks
On Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:39 PM Ed Leafe wrote: Force is something that is directly measurable. Gravity is a theory that attempts to explain that force. The force is a fact; gravity is a theory that explains the observed facts very well. There is the Law of Gravity:

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 3, 2007, at 8:50 AM, David Crooks wrote: There is the Law of Gravity: http://wilstar.com/theories.htm The Law describes the behavior. The Theory attempts to explain the behavior. We can all observe an item being dropped and measure its acceleration. We can all

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Hal Kaplan
Too bad gravity does not have an effect on threads here on this list. If it did, we could test it by dropping the thread. I think you are all taking Virgil too literally. Theories come and go. Many theories are simply highly-educated guesses. The masses (people) must be comfortable with their

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
Of Hal Kaplan Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:47 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Too bad gravity does not have an effect on threads here on this list. If it did, we could test it by dropping the thread. I think you are all taking Virgil too literally

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/3/07, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad gravity does not have an effect on threads here on this list. If it did, we could test it by dropping the thread. I think you are all taking Virgil too literally. Theories come and go. Many theories are simply highly-educated guesses.

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Hal Kaplan
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans =  = Spoken like a true believer...science reduced to a fairy tale =  = A+ = jml =  Jean, mon ami, you seem to have chosen the wrong opiate. The side effects are quite unbecoming. You should try to find one that makes you comfortable

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/3/07, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean, mon ami, you seem to have chosen the wrong opiate. The side effects are quite unbecoming. You should try to find one that makes you comfortable without being so insecure that you cannot accept a difference of opinion. B+ HALinNY Ok

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Vince Teachout
Ed Leafe wrote: On May 3, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: Only Texans would find that offensive. snip Gee, Ed. You are living dangerously ... remember, Leland reads this list, too. roflmao An intellectual would understand that that

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Vince Teachout
Hal Kaplan wrote: Too bad gravity does not have an effect on threads here on this list. If it did, we could test it by dropping the thread. My prediction (not theory) is that it would bounce, if we did. I think you are all taking Virgil too literally. That's really the problem.

[OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
Ok, now I am officially confused. What r the differences among theory, law, principle and hypothesis ? If the theory of Relativity has been proven, why it's not a law ? E. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 -

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2007-05-03 Thread Vince Teachout
Eurico Chagas Filho wrote: Ok, now I am officially confused. What r the differences among theory, law, principle and hypothesis ? If the theory of Relativity has been proven, why it's not a law ? E. From that website posted earlier (http://wilstar.com/theories.htm) : The biggest

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/3/07, Eurico Chagas Filho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, now I am officially confused. What r the differences among theory, law, principle and hypothesis ? If the theory of Relativity has been proven, why it's not a law ? E. http://physics.about.com/od/physics101thebasics/a/hypothesis.htm

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 3, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Eurico Chagas Filho wrote: What r the differences among theory, law, principle and hypothesis ? If the theory of Relativity has been proven, why it's not a law ? Laws can only describe physical events. Explanations can never be Laws; the pinnacle that any

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 03 May 2007 7:45 am, Ed Leafe wrote: On May 3, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: snip When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the term 'intellectual' as an invective? Only Texans would find that offensive. snip

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2007-05-03 Thread Nicholas Geti
Ed, You are feeding a troll. You can't win. - Original Message - From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too On May 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 3, 2007, at 5:59 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: You are feeding a troll. You can't win. You're probably right, but I guess given the fact that he isn't normally a troll, he might realize at some point that he was posting utterly absurd statements. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com

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2007-05-03 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:21 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Ed Leafe wrote: On May 2, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Actually not. the gravitational force is proportional

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Thursday 03 May 2007 7:45 am, Ed Leafe wrote: On May 3, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: snip When was the last time you heard someone from New York use the term 'intellectual' as an invective? Only Texans would find that offensive.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-03 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 03 May 2007 6:41 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip *You*, intellectual as you may be, would be hard pressed to find *any* Texans who would find offensive what you claim they would. You mean because they can't read? ;c) Hi Ricardo! I don't mean that at all. The majority of Texans

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2007-05-03 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Thursday 03 May 2007 6:41 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip *You*, intellectual as you may be, would be hard pressed to find *any* Texans who would find offensive what you claim they would. You mean because they can't read? ;c) Hi Ricardo! I don't mean that at all.

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2007-05-03 Thread Robert Calco
On May 3, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: No amount of proof, though, can ever turn a Theory into a Law. True enough; but Congress can, and that's precisely the concern that gave birth to this thread in the first place. :) - Bob -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com --

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Robert Calco
Perhaps you simply are uneducated about earth's elliptical orbit around the sun that becomes, as it were, more or less so based on where it is in a known cycle? Perhaps you are just unaware that the sun also follows patterns of activity that affect the warmth and other features of the

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Robert Calco
Leland: Men, upon too many occasions, do not give their own understandings fair play; but, yielding to some untoward bias, they entangle themselves in words and confound themselves in subtleties. -- Federalist Papers #31 ) - Bob On May 1, 2007, at 2:45 PM,

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:45 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too The lengths to which you

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:49 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too The rapid warming of earth has been occur over the last 50 or so years, so it obviously not due to the sun which has been constant in the radiation

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Perhaps you simply are uneducated about earth's elliptical orbit around the sun that becomes, as it were, more or less so based on where it is in a known cycle? Perhaps you are just unaware that the sun also follows

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:45 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too The lengths to which you are willing to go to maintain your mental balance by way of denial is astonishing

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Michael Madigan
To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too The lengths to which you are willing to go to maintain your mental balance by way of denial is astonishing. If there is some common cause between the Earth and Mars that has the effect of warming our

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too The lengths to which you are willing to go to maintain your mental balance by way of denial is astonishing. If there is some common cause between the Earth and Mars that has

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:45 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Pete Theisen
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 10:48 am, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: snip If global warming is a problem within our control, then we should take steps to prevent it. If global warming is a problem beyond our control, then it really doesn't matter, but which of you can make this determination. Hi

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Your

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
. Jackson, CPA Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Your basing your conclusions on the assumptions of Dr David Whitehouse, but I base my belief on the vast majority of the Scientific community that were specifically

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Pete Theisen
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 11:02 am, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: Leland, No, I'm basing my conclusions on Dr. Lori K. Fenton (PhD in Planetary Science) who is a Principle Investigator for NASA. You can find out more about her here: http://humbabe.arc.nasa.gov/~fenton/ Hi

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Although, it seem what is happening to the climate of Mars is independent of what is happening on Earth, what Dr. Lori K. Fentonshe learns from studying Mar's climate might hold the key to providing a solution for Earth. Regards, LelandJ Pete Theisen wrote: On Wednesday 02 May 2007 11:02

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Helio W.
] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Virgil, what you just said is embarrassing. On 5/1/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you ever think that its possible that all planets

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too Virgil, what you just said is embarrassing. On 5/1/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you ever think that its possible that all planets are gradually getting closer to the sun, or possibly the sun is gradually warming up until it burns

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: How do we know the sun won't burn itself out next year ? We don't .! How do we know that some large planet won't collide with the sun ? We don't. These should go along with your we don't know that planets have gravity quote.

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
All I'm trying to do is get you to think instead of blindly believing that you know the answer. But of course, you do know the answer, don't you grin Ed Leafe wrote: On May 2, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: How do we know the sun won't burn itself out next year ? We don't

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: All I'm trying to do is get you to think instead of blindly believing that you know the answer. It would be a real breakthrough if you were ever able to conceive of someone knowing something for a reason other than blindly

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I don't believe that we have enough history to really truly know something. We've been here for what ? 500 years or so. Maybe 1,000 ?? We're just babes in somebodys imagination somewhere. Ed Leafe wrote: On May 2, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: All I'm trying to do is get you

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Helio W.
Don't you read the bible? On 5/2/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe that we have enough history to really truly know something. We've been here for what ? 500 years or so. Maybe 1,000 ?? We're just babes in somebodys imagination somewhere. Ed Leafe wrote: On

RE: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread David Crooks
On Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:48 PM Virgil Bierschwale wrote: I don't believe that we have enough history to really truly know something. We've been here for what ? 500 years or so. Maybe 1,000 ?? We're just babes in somebodys imagination somewhere. According to Wikipedia.org: Archaeological

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I never have no. I've thought about it some.. Let me ask you this. Have you ever watched men sit around a campfire at night swapping lies. Have you ever noticed how the lies get bigger every generation ? How do you know that the things handed down in the bible, which by my understanding has

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 4:55 PM, David Crooks wrote: Archaeological evidence suggests Ah, that old evidence ploy. According to Virgil, this is just another word for blindly believing, since he cannot conceive of anything more involved than that. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com --

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Open your brain ed. you're an intelligent man. The man that invented the lightbulb failed a 1,000 times is what I read. Each time, he had a different theory. Each theory turned out to be wrong until he got it right. History proved his theory right, not his theory. Ed Leafe wrote: On May 2,

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Each time, he had a different theory. Each theory turned out to be wrong until he got it right. You confuse 'theory' with 'guess'. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
There is no difference Ed Leafe wrote: On May 2, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Each time, he had a different theory. Each theory turned out to be wrong until he got it right. You confuse 'theory' with 'guess'. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com --

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 2, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: There is no difference And therein lies your problem. Ignorance is not something to be proud of, even in Texas. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 5/2/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no difference About time you stopped putting your foot in your mouth... A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Explain the difference. As you said, ignorance is not something to be proud of, even in New York City See, the difference between us is that I know that I do not know everything and I've learned over the years not to believe things because somebody says it is so. How many theories do you know

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Whats that saying ? Ye of closed minds ? Jean Laeremans wrote: On 5/2/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no difference About time you stopped putting your foot in your mouth... A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server]

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Helio W.
Virgil, The computer you're using was built on some of the theories you probably think are false... Beware, if somebody prove them wrong, your computer will suddently stop working... On 5/2/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats that saying ? Ye of closed minds ? Jean

Re: [OT] George Bush Is Destroying Mars Too

2007-05-02 Thread Derek Kalweit
About time you stopped putting your foot in your mouth... Whats that saying ? Ye of closed minds ? It's saying you're rivaling some of the Profox OT 'greats' at saying blatantly stupid things. :-) -- Derek ___ Post Messages to:

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