Re: BioRDF Brainstorming -- Connecting the Health Care and Life Science KB to the Linking Open Data datasets

2008-02-18 Thread Richard Cyganiak
Matthias, Michael, I think this is a great idea and I would really like to see some connections emerge between the HCLS web of data and the LOD web of data. If I can be of any help with some LOD and DBpedia expertise, just let me know. Cheers, Richard On 15 Feb 2008, at 13:44, Matthias

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming -- Connecting the Health Care and Life Science KB to the Linking Open Data datasets

2008-02-15 Thread Matthias Samwald
I added yet another item to the BioRDF Brainstorming document [1]. Here is the text that can also be found and edited on the Wiki page: ___HCLS KB mapping to the open linked data repositories___ It would be great if two of the largest coherent Semantic Web structures, namely the HCLS Knowle

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-13 Thread Matt Williams
I'd agree - I suspect that simply matching terms doesn't help that much - we'd need to know the context of it, but then it all gets very sticky. There is some work on mining the Chemistry literature from Cambridge (UK) - using ? OSCAR/ Sci-ML I think We've done a little work in the clin

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-13 Thread Kei Cheung
Alan Ruttenberg wrote: On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Kei Cheung wrote: Hi Olivier, Alan, et al, A prototype version of our neuroscience semantic web portal is accessible at: http://neuroweb3.med.yale.edu Nice :) Thanks :-) . There is still a lot of room for improvement. Bear in mind,

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Chris Mungall
On Feb 12, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: On Feb 12, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Colin Batchelor wrote: How do you propose we cope with hedging, that is "It is not impossible that bananas are green", "Taken together, these results would indicate that bananas are blue" and so forth? This

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Kei Cheung wrote: Hi Olivier, Alan, et al, A prototype version of our neuroscience semantic web portal is accessible at: http://neuroweb3.med.yale.edu Nice :) Bear in mind, this is a working prototype for proof of concept and it is still under active develo

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Kei Cheung wrote: Also, I have a question regarding retrieval of entez gene information including gene ids, symbols, and snyonyms. Is such information available from the HCLS KB and/or RDF entrez gene dataset that Olivier's group had created? Here is a query

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Feb 12, 2008, at 11:07 PM, Ernest wrote: Sorry this is probably obvious to everyone but for the query below, where can we run it? or what can we run it against? I think Kei and I are unclear if there is a sparql endpoint that we can use or is there an owl file containing all this data

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Feb 12, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Colin Batchelor wrote: How do you propose we cope with hedging, that is "It is not impossible that bananas are green", "Taken together, these results would indicate that bananas are blue" and so forth? This is much more common that the unwary reader might suspect

RE: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Colin Batchelor
> I also think that the machine-readable representation of facts about > biology > should have a higher priortiy than the description of experimental setups > and procedures (which is the major goal of OBI and EXPO). People only have > limited time and motivation to create machine-readable annotat

RE: RE: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Colin Batchelor
> In what I see as the ideal scenario, each text/database entry would only > be annotated with the results OK. So what we would need is (1) a tool for getting authors to indicate which bits of the article actually are their results, and (2) a way of representing this in RDF. I suppose we're goi

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Kei Cheung
Olivier Bodenreider wrote: Kei Cheung wrote: [...] Also, I have a question regarding retrieval of entez gene information including gene ids, symbols, and snyonyms. Is such information available from the HCLS KB and/or RDF entrez gene dataset that Olivier's group had created? Yes for the

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Olivier Bodenreider
Kei Cheung wrote: [...] Also, I have a question regarding retrieval of entez gene information including gene ids, symbols, and snyonyms. Is such information available from the HCLS KB and/or RDF entrez gene dataset that Olivier's group had created? Yes for the dataset we created (has_unique_g

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Kei Cheung
Hi Olivier, Alan, et al, A prototype version of our neuroscience semantic web portal is accessible at: http://neuroweb3.med.yale.edu Bear in mind, this is a working prototype for proof of concept and it is still under active development. The Web interface has 3 panels: search panel (on top)

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Matthias Samwald
I'd agree that to capture all the publication might be hard, but to only capture this bit (I suspect the conclusion) wouldn't you need to find the conclusion, and ignore the rest? Using the abstract only might help, but not enoughin any case, there are other bits (e.g. which type of banan

Re: RE: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Matthias Samwald
On a broader brainstorming note, it would be nice to have a way of specifying that a certain dc:Agent thinks that one is a better annotation than the other also, with the user deciding to trust certain Agents to give them useful knowledge, or inversely, to not trust specific Agents who they fi

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Matt Williams
Dear All, Just a note on this: For example, article pmid:123 contains the text >> "We found that bananas are yellow. This is in conflict with article >> pmid:456, which states that bananas are pink". >> >> Article pmid:123 should only be annotated with >> "banana has_quality yellow . >> pmid:12

Re: RE: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Peter Ansell
On 12/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Good point. What I was sort of driving at (and failing) was the context > > in which the facts are mentioned---are they the aim of the paper, > > background information, mentioned as results and so forth? > > In what I see as the i

Re: RE: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread samwald
> Good point. What I was sort of driving at (and failing) was the context > in which the facts are mentioned---are they the aim of the paper, > background information, mentioned as results and so forth? In what I see as the ideal scenario, each text/database entry would only be annotated with

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-11 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Olivier Bodenreider wrote: eric neumann wrote: I haven't been good at following the calls lately, but still am sympathetic to the endeavor and committed to helping as I can (just not quite efficiently). Starting with MeSH might be a good idea as it it does not h

RE: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-11 Thread Nigam Shah
17 AM To: Matthias Samwald Cc: Susie M Stephens; public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org; Holger Stenzhorn Subject: Re: BioRDF Brainstorming I cannot make today's call, but I think it essential for any BioRDF project to consider how to include currently used terminologies such as those from UM

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-11 Thread Olivier Bodenreider
eric neumann wrote: I cannot make today's call, but I think it essential for any BioRDF project to consider how to include currently used terminologies such as those from UMLS. I don't know if Olivier Bodenreider has been on any of the calls recently, but his proposed offer to mint uris fr

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-11 Thread Matthias Samwald
Colin Batchelor wrote: Surely this is better suited to OBI-type annotations than generic OBO things? Please describe further how "OBI-type" differs from "OBO-type". OBI is part of OBO. Do you mean quantitative information, such as detailed numerical results of experiments? OBI-type annota

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-11 Thread eric neumann
I cannot make today's call, but I think it essential for any BioRDF project to consider how to include currently used terminologies such as those from UMLS. I don't know if Olivier Bodenreider has been on any of the calls recently, but his proposed offer to mint uris from CUI (UMLS, MeSH, etc) is s

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-11 Thread Matthias Samwald
I have also added several ideas to the wiki page [1]: * OBO Structured Digital Abstracts * SIOC for Science * OntoWiki and Semantic MediaWiki * HCLS KB Decentralisation * Define a simplified OWL-to-RDF mapping for a subset of OWL Cheers, Matthias Samwald Semantic Web Company / DERI Galway / Yal

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-10 Thread Kei Cheung
Hi Susie et al., Since SenseLab’s Semantic Web development has been a part of the HCLS activities, I would like to suggest its new development as part of the future HCLS activities. One suggestion is the extension of “Entrez Neuron” to become a Semantic Web portal for mashing up neuroscientif