Fwd: Migrate: svndump loaded into google code project

2007-10-02 Thread Mark Ramm
tions, and get involved. --Mark -- Forwarded message ------ From: Mark Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Oct 2, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Migrate: svndump loaded into google code project? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I just loaded Evan's svndump into the shiny new google co

Re: Migrate: svndump loaded into google code project

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Ramm
start, I would be delighted to see something akin to jj's helpers to > be available for TG/Pylons projects: > http://jjinux.blogspot.com/2007/08/python-database-migrations_07.html > > Max. > > > On 10/2/07, Mark Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Migrate: svndump loaded into google code project

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Ramm
and gain a stronger user base. It's simple, handy and very lightweight. --Mark Ramm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-devel@goog

Re: "template_engine.default" considered harmful

2007-12-12 Thread Mark Ramm
quires > programming changes in the application. So it belongs more in > environment.py than the config file. > > -- > Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- Mark Ramm-Christensen email: mark at compoundthinking dot com blog: www.compoundthinking.com/blog -

Re: "template_engine.default" considered harmful

2007-12-12 Thread Mark Ramm
> It should prolly be noted that the ini file is for deployment specific > settings. Nothing so critical to the apps internal structuring should > be in the ini like the template engine to use. Sure, that's fine and makes good sense. I will mention though that's not what was done in tg, so i

Re: "template_engine.default" considered harmful

2007-12-12 Thread Mark Ramm
ommend @expose in the docs and > tutorials? It's arguably a better way to organize one's code. We've > kind of implemented it quietly without discussing the ramifications. > It definitely deserves more exposure than just a trivial side feature. > Users will want

Re: "template_engine.default" considered harmful

2007-12-12 Thread Mark Ramm
ed by default if no template engine is specified in the @expose() decorator. On Dec 12, 2007 11:50 PM, Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 12, 2007 4:47 PM, Mark Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What I want, and what seems to make the most sense to

Re: Cleaning some house of imports and one letters

2007-12-18 Thread Mark Ramm
On Dec 18, 2007 3:12 AM, Ben Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After talking with Ian Bicking a bit tonight, I'm finally fully sold > on retiring the one-letter variable names from Pylons. The most likely > replacement names: > c -> context > g -> ??? (as globals/global is already taken) > h ->

Re: render() args

2007-12-18 Thread Mark Ramm
On Dec 18, 2007 9:11 PM, Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would anybody cry if I change the render argument order to put the > template always first. Either: I promise not to cry if you rip the band aid off quick ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: Cleaning some house of imports and one letters

2007-12-18 Thread Mark Ramm
ests. I think app_local is better than global, for 2 reasons. 1) it's more descriptive, 2) many people are taught that globals are bad, so that name has a negative connotation. Not a big deal, but if we get to change it, I'm all for removing con

Re: Cleaning some house of imports and one letters

2007-12-18 Thread Mark Ramm
> h.url_for always reads weird to me. url_for is a first-class function, > why not just put it at the top level for templates? That said, I > generally like h. TurboGears 1 had a registry of things that ought to be automatically imported into the template namespace as top level variables. And

Re: Cleaning some house of imports and one letters

2007-12-18 Thread Mark Ramm
> I think everything that is a SOP right now could hang off a single > request SOP. I personally would prefer that; I think it makes all this > stuff much more clear. It's easy to remember that the request object is > per-request -- heck, it's obvious once you write it down. I agree that it mak

WebOb in pylons trunk

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Ramm
od to have a plan about how to handle 2, since we likely want testutil to work with both pylons request response objects and WebOb. It's also possible that there will be other issues after 2 is fixed which we haven't found yet since we're not yet to the point where the test infra

Re: WebOb in pylons trunk

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Ramm
> On Dec 27, 2007 7:17 PM, Mark Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it turns out there are two WebOb incompatibilities in the current > > pylons trunk which need to be overcome. > > These need to be fixed anyway because Pylons will drop support for the > old Reque

HTTPExceptions

2008-01-14 Thread Mark Ramm
ting together a plan in case we ever have that kind of thing happen again. -- Mark Ramm-Christensen email: mark at compoundthinking dot com blog: www.compoundthinking.com/blog --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: HTTPExceptions

2008-01-14 Thread Mark Ramm
make pylons work with 2.4 first, and then I can come back to tg. -- Mark Ramm-Christensen email: mark at compoundthinking dot com blog: www.compoundthinking.com/blog --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

Pylons/TG sprint

2008-04-07 Thread Mark Ramm
TG2 is built on top of a Pylons and, many of other components which we also share with Pylons. We've been making a lot of progress via monthly sprints so far in 2008, so we're starting to plan sprints a bit further out. Pylons Developers are always welcome!. Here's a list of the sprints for the

Render functions change

2008-06-19 Thread Mark Ramm
I have a render-function change that I'd like to make. I'd like to add a globals keyword argument to each of the three pylons render functions, which defaults to None, but gets used instead of globs = pylons_globals() if it is there. This would allow TG2 to use the pylons render functions direct

Re: Render functions change

2008-06-19 Thread Mark Ramm
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Mark Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a render-function change that I'd like to make. > > I'd like to add a globals keyword argument to each of the three pylons > render functions, which defaults to None, but gets used instead

Re: turbogears2/pylons and public/static folder

2008-11-14 Thread Mark Ramm
ry good essay on how to ask questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I can promise you that better questions will get you better answers. ;) --Mark Ramm On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Lukasz Szybalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can pylons add

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Ramm
tem is and how that maps to URL's. There are down sides, which chris and many of you have raised, but I think we have to do something, because the current terminology is just a bit too arcane. --Mark Ramm On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > While it seems peop

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-17 Thread Mark Ramm
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Andrey Popp <8may...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Mark Ramm > wrote: >> I think resource is a good term for items in the graph. > > Why you think resources are need to be bound to locations in g

Re: TurboGears is to become part of the Pylons Project

2010-12-28 Thread Mark Ramm
> Thanks to Mark Ramm for shepherding this idea through the TG community! You are more than welcome. I'm very happy to be joining forces with all of you, and I'm even more excited about the possibilities if we can all work together to build great web development tools. --Mark

Re: Traversal / Object Dispatch / Routes [was: Pyramid for Pylons users guide]

2011-01-15 Thread Mark Ramm
to need, but it *can* be done without resorting to overriding the dispatcher. --Mark Ramm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: Tutorials

2011-03-03 Thread Mark Ramm
> A countervailing opinion: pip has problems with namespace packages.  For > an example, trying to use tox (a testing package which uses pip > internally) to run tests against a namespace package (like > repoze.anything) consistently fails.  I haven't had time (or > inclination) to dig into this pu

Re: Some thoughts about Pyramid

2011-03-04 Thread Mark Ramm
is not removing all choice, or having the maximum number of options possible -- it's allowing just the right number of choices in just the right places. --Mark Ramm On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Daniel Holth wrote: > Psychologists have done a significant amount of research documenting t

Re: Terminology Change - Template to Skeleton

2011-03-21 Thread Mark Ramm
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Joe Dallago wrote: > Yah the term 'scaffold' is used in a number of rails-like php frameworks as > well.  I think it would be more easily recognized than skeleton.  -1 > skeleton.  +1 scaffold. Also agreed on scaffold being a more recognizable and actually more ac