En Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:23:44 -0200, Huytason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
i use pthon 3.0 today
python code:
import urllib.request
then use PyRun_StringFlag to run it.
get this
it's a bug?
You should tell us more details. You are embedding Python, I presume?
The default search path (sys.
En Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:29:32 -0200, Philip Semanchuk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
On Dec 2, 2008, at 11:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a cross-platform way to launch multiple Python processes
and monitor CPU usage
os.getloadavg() might be useful. It certainly works on *nix, don't
En Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:31:01 -0200, pk sahoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
hallo everybody,
when i am running the following command
import xlrd
book=xlrd.open_workbook("C:\\a.xls")
i am getting the following error..
*Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
File "C:\Py
> Should specifying the 3.0 tag implicity and automatically specify the
> 3 tag as well?
No. There is really no builtin automatic semantics to any of the
classifiers.
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:57:27 +0100, News123 wrote:
> Lie wrote:
>> On Dec 7, 1:02 am, News123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> What would be interesting would be some syntactical sugar to get rid
>>> of the 'self' (at least in the code body).
>>>
>>> example:
>>> class C:
>>> class_elements a,b,
James Stroud wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
James Stroud wrote:
py> 112 = [1, y]
py> y in 112
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
ValueError: The truth value of an array with more than one element is...
but not
py> ll1 = [y,1]
py> y in ll1
True
It's this discrepancy that see
On Dec 7, 8:51 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The following code works under 2.6
>
> def foo():
> a = 1
> <.tab..>b = 1
>
> but results in a TabError in Python 3k
>
> File "x.py", line 3
> b = 3
> ^
> TabError: inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation
>
> T
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:56:40 +, I V wrote:
> So, if we want Python to the programming language of choice for Lacanian
> psychoanalysts, perhaps we should adopt the symbol "$" (or even, with
> Python 3's support for unicode identifiers, S followed by U+0388)
> instead of "self."
Is that suppos
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:51:50 -0800, rurpy wrote:
> Do the Py3k docs need correction?
If I were the maintainer of the parser, I'd add something like this:
tab_width = random.randint(0, 1000)
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On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Chris Rebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No apology necessary of course, i just didn't want the newbie OP to
> pick up any bad Python coding habits. Apologies that I might have
> phrased my criticism a bit harshly.
No not at all :) I do use class variables in some
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:17 PM, James Mills
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Chris Rebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The following three lines serve no purpose and can only lead to confusion:
>>> value = None
>>> prev = None
>>> next = None
>
> You are absolute
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Chris Rebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following three lines serve no purpose and can only lead to confusion:
>> value = None
>> prev = None
>> next = None
You are absolutely right :)
Updated code:
#!/home/jmills/bin/python -i
class Node(object):
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:09 PM, James Mills
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is really really really pointless code and a really really pointless
> exercise, but nonetheless, here is a very very basic and minimal
> implementation of what you're expecting. This should almost
> *never* be d
Hi,
This is really really really pointless code and a really really pointless
exercise, but nonetheless, here is a very very basic and minimal
implementation of what you're expecting. This should almost
*never* be done in Python! Python is a superior dynamic programming
language, but it's NOT C!
Robert Kern wrote:
James Stroud wrote:
py> 112 = [1, y]
py> y in 112
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
ValueError: The truth value of an array with more than one element is...
but not
py> ll1 = [y,1]
py> y in ll1
True
It's this discrepancy that seems like a bug, not th
On 2008-12-06, News123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of my 'non technical' friends complained about knowing nothing at
> all about programming (though using computers regularly for mails / web
> browsing / googling and downloading / cropping photos )
>
> He wants to play a little with programmin
Chris Rebert wrote:
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello, I'm studying algorithom. For concentrating on the question itself, I
intend to use Python to implement the algorithoms.
Now, I want to write a Red-Black Tree, and a List structure. In C/C++, I can
use
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, I'm studying algorithom. For concentrating on the question itself, I
> intend to use Python to implement the algorithoms.
>
> Now, I want to write a Red-Black Tree, and a List structure. In C/C++, I can
> use pointers to refe
Hello, I'm studying algorithom. For concentrating on the question itself, I
intend to use Python to implement the algorithoms.
Now, I want to write a Red-Black Tree, and a List structure. In C/C++, I
can
use pointers to refer to children notes (or next notes). But, in
Python, how
can I do it
James Stroud wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
James Stroud wrote:
I'm missing how a.all() solves the problem Rasmus describes, namely
that the order of a python *list* affects the results of containment
tests by numpy.array. E.g. "y in ll1" and "y in ll2" evaluate to
different results in his example
The following code works under 2.6
def foo():
a = 1
<.tab..>b = 1
but results in a TabError in Python 3k
File "x.py", line 3
b = 3
^
TabError: inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation
The py3k docs say the same thing as the 2.6 docs,
namely that tabs are
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Chris Rebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:39 PM, sniffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> hi all,
>> i am a python newbie, in a project currently doing i need to find out
>> the number of arguments that a function takes at runtime.? Is this
>> p
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:39 PM, sniffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi all,
> i am a python newbie, in a project currently doing i need to find out
> the number of arguments that a function takes at runtime.? Is this
> possible ,if so how do i do this,i ve looked through the python
> documentation
hi all,
i am a python newbie, in a project currently doing i need to find out
the number of arguments that a function takes at runtime.? Is this
possible ,if so how do i do this,i ve looked through the python
documentation but couldnt find anything.any help will be great
TIA
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On Dec 7, 8:34 pm, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> > Of course, if you're volunteering to write such a standard system beep
> > for Python, I for one would be grateful.
>
> I am. But where should I put it? Assuming we don't want to wa
On 2008-12-07, Peter Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:40:53 +0100, Stef Mientki wrote:
>>
>> I want to give a small beep, for windows there's message-beep,
>> and there seems to be something like " curses" , but that
>> package seems to be totally broken in P2.5 for windo
hello,
PyOpenGL also has a raw module which includes python bindings closer
to the C calls... however mostly you want to use the nicer more
pythonic versions of functions.
Recent pyopengl 3.x versions have been optimized for speed, including
optional C level optimizations. So I imagine they are
On Dec 7, 2:13 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a 12-year-old son who spends too much time playing Xbox live
> and watching silly YouTube videos. I would like to try to get him
> interested in programming. Is anyone aware of a good book or website
> that addresses this concern, pre
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:23:59 +, Rasmus Fogh wrote:
> Just to keep you from shooting at straw men:
>
> I would have liked it to be part of the design contract (a convention,
> if you like) that
> 1) bool(x == y) should return a boolean and never throw an error
Can't be done without making b
Robert Kern wrote:
James Stroud wrote:
I'm missing how a.all() solves the problem Rasmus describes, namely
that the order of a python *list* affects the results of containment
tests by numpy.array. E.g. "y in ll1" and "y in ll2" evaluate to
different results in his example. It still seems like
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Luis M. González <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a very good advice.
> I learned from my own experience in college that trying to learn a
> solution to a problem I never had, is wasted time.
> The first step is confronting your student with an specific problem,
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I maintain a CGI framework named PyTin, and while previously the
developer was only allowed to access GET and POST by cgi.FieldStorage.
I'm trying to add code to my request gatherer that looks like:
1. request.rawpost = StringIO() # Just normal StringIO
2. request.rawpos
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I maintain a CGI framework named PyTin, and while previously the
developer was only allowed to access GET and POST by cgi.FieldStorage.
I'm trying to add code to my request gatherer that looks like:
1. request.rawpost = StringIO() # Just normal StringIO
2. request.rawpost.write(sys.stdin.read())
3
James Stroud wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:57:54 -0800, James Stroud wrote:
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
ll1 = [y,1]
y in ll1
True
ll2 = [1,y]
y in ll2
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
ValueError: The truth value of an array with more than one elemen
Luis M. González:
>After he tried hard many approaches to solving the problem with his limited
>knowledge,<
You may even be surprised to see he/her/hir find a solution without
your help :-) Or maybe you will see a different solution, this happens
often in math and computer science, even basic on
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On Dec 8, 11:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does pyglet use PyOpenGL as its OpenGL wrapper? If not, any idea why?
> Seems like it would be a fairly substantial duplication of effort.
Taken from: http://groups.google.com/group/pyglet-users/msg/832b15389fccd28d
>> IIRC pyglet tries to minimize d
On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Of course, if you're volunteering to write such a standard system beep
for Python, I for one would be grateful.
I am. But where should I put it? Assuming we don't want to wait for
the (understandably) lengthy and contentious process requir
On Dec 7, 8:17 pm, "Patrick Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 4:43 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> PyOpengl - an opengl wrapper. Version 2 is written in c, version 3
> instead uses ctypes
> Pyglet - an opengl + events/sound/etc wrapper written in ctypes
Does
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 4:43 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Trying to decide which to get started with. Can anyone suggest some
> pros and cons to each of them?
>
> Would PyOpenGL be in the same camp as Pygame and pyglet? Do either of
> Pygame or pyglet make use of PyOpenGL behind the scenes?
> -
This is a very good advice.
I learned from my own experience in college that trying to learn a
solution to a problem I never had, is wasted time.
The first step is confronting your student with an specific problem,
then let him try to find a way to solve it by himself.
After he tried hard many appr
Russ P. wrote:
Thanks to everyone who replied. The information was very helpful.
Someone might want to consider putting a kids section on python.org
(if it doesn't have one already -- I didn't see one).
You have a kid. Why don't you? :-)
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Trying to decide which to get started with. Can anyone suggest some
pros and cons to each of them?
Would PyOpenGL be in the same camp as Pygame and pyglet? Do either of
Pygame or pyglet make use of PyOpenGL behind the scenes?
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:57:54 -0800, James Stroud wrote:
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
ll1 = [y,1]
y in ll1
True
ll2 = [1,y]
y in ll2
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
ValueError: The truth value of an array with more than one element is
ambiguous. Use a
Terry Reedy wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
Personally I would like to get these [EMAIL PROTECTED]&* misfeatures removed,
What you are calling a misfeature is an absence, not a presence that
can be removed.
That's not quite true.
In what way, pray tell.
On Dec 7, 6:37 pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:20:12 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:32:53 -0600, Robert Kern wrote:
>
> >> Rasmus Fogh wrote:
>
> >>> Current behaviour is both inconsistent and counterintuitive, as
Thanks to everyone who replied. The information was very helpful.
Someone might want to consider putting a kids section on python.org
(if it doesn't have one already -- I didn't see one).
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On Dec 7, 12:13 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a 12-year-old son who spends too much time playing Xbox live
> and watching silly YouTube videos. I would like to try to get him
> interested in programming. Is anyone aware of a good book or website
> that addresses this concern, pr
On Dec 7, 12:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Martin>http://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=browse&c=533
>
> Martin> It seems that some package authors only classify with
>
> Martin> Programming Language :: Python :: 3
>
> I did a release for lockfile yesterday which supports 3.0. I ad
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:20:12 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:32:53 -0600, Robert Kern wrote:
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
Current behaviour is both inconsistent and counterintuitive, as these
examples show.
x = float('NaN')
x == x
False
Blame IEEE for t
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:13:37 -, Russ P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a 12-year-old son who spends too much time playing Xbox live
and watching silly YouTube videos. I would like to try to get him
interested in programming. Is anyone aware of a good book or website
that addresses this co
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:57:54 -0800, James Stroud wrote:
> Rasmus Fogh wrote:
>> Current behaviour is both inconsistent and counterintuitive, as these
>> examples show.
>>
> x = float('NaN')
> x == x
>> False
>
> Perhaps this should raise an exception?
Why on earth would you want checkin
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:22:23 -0800, walterbyrd wrote:
> IMO: breaking backward compatibility is a big deal, and should only be
> done when it is seriously needed.
>
> Also, IMO, most of, if not all, of the changes being made in 3.0 are
> debatable, at best. I can not think of anything that is bei
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:56:14 -0700, Joe Strout wrote:
> On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> On 2008-12-07, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> But invoking the standard system beep
>>
>> What makes you think there is such a thing as "the standard system
>> beep"?
>
> B
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:56:14 -0700
Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> > What makes you think there is such a thing as "the standard system
> > beep"?
>
> Because OS X (the platform with which I'm most familiar) certainly has
> one, and REA
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:20:12 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:32:53 -0600, Robert Kern wrote:
>
>> Rasmus Fogh wrote:
>>
>>> Current behaviour is both inconsistent and counterintuitive, as these
>>> examples show.
>>>
>> x = float('NaN')
>> x == x
>>> False
>>
>>
James Stroud wrote:
Rasmus
Fogh wrote:
Current behaviour is both inconsistent and counterintuitive, as these
examples show.
x = float('NaN')
x == x
False
Perhaps this should raise an exception? I think the problem is not
with comparisons in general but with the fact that nan is type float:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:27:51 -, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rhodri
James wrote:
Yes, it's very pretty, and you're terribly clever. In six months' time
when you come back to make some engineering change and have to sit down
and break it
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:32:53 -0600, Robert Kern wrote:
> Rasmus Fogh wrote:
>
>> Current behaviour is both inconsistent and counterintuitive, as these
>> examples show.
>>
> x = float('NaN')
> x == x
>> False
>
> Blame IEEE for that one. Rich comparisons have nothing to do with that
> o
For those interested in this Mathematica problem, i've now cleaned up
the essay with additional comments here:
• A Mathematica Optimization Problem
http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/Mathematica_optimization.html
The result and speed up of my code can be verified by anyone who has
Mathema
On Dec 7, 1:13 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > and friendlier to newbies.
>
> I'd rather say "more acceptable to java-brainwashed developpers".
And I'd rather say you're trolling, but that's ok since you're
preaching to the converted. You conveniently forgot to mention the
On Dec 8, 2:05 am, Johannes Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Machin schrieb:
>
> > He did. Ugly stuff using readline() :-) Should still work, though.
>
> Well, well, I'm a C kinda guy used to while (fgets(b, sizeof(b), f))
> kinda loops :-)
>
> But, seriously - I find that whole "while True:
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
Can anybody see a way this could be fixed (please)? I may well have to
live with it, but I would really prefer not to.
I made a suggestion in my first response, which perhaps you missed.
tjr
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James Stroud wrote:
[cast to bool] for numpy works like a unary ufunc.
Scratch that. Not thinking and typing at same time.
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Robert Kern wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
Personally I would like to get these [EMAIL PROTECTED]&* misfeatures removed,
What you are calling a misfeature is an absence, not a presence that
can be removed.
That's not quite true.
In what way, pray tell. My statement still
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
Current behaviour is both inconsistent and counterintuitive, as these
examples show.
x = float('NaN')
x == x
False
Perhaps this should raise an exception? I think the problem is not with
comparisons in general but with the fact that nan is type float:
py> type(float('Na
Luis Zarrabeitia wrote:
Quoting James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
First, here is why the ability to throw an error is a feature:
class Apple(object):
def __init__(self, appleness):
self.appleness = appleness
def __cmp__(self, other):
assert isinstance(other, Apple), 'must comp
2008/12/7 walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> IMO: breaking backward compatibility is a big deal, and should only be
> done when it is seriously needed.
>
> Also, IMO, most of, if not all, of the changes being made in 3.0 are
> debatable, at best. I can not think of anything that is being changed
> t
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
Current behaviour is both inconsistent and counterintuitive, as these
examples show.
x = float('NaN')
x == x
False
Blame IEEE for that one. Rich comparisons have nothing to do with that one.
ll = [x]
x in ll
True
x == ll[0]
False
import numpy
y = numpy.zeros((3,))
Have a read of this http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2008/dec/05/python-3000/
It's a response to questions similar to yours by James Bennett
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:22 PM, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMO: breaking backward compatibility is a big deal, and should only be
> done when it is
Peter Pearson schrieb:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:40:53 +0100, Stef Mientki wrote:
I want to give a small beep,
for windows there's message-beep,
and there seems to be something like " curses" ,
but that package seems to be totally broken in P2.5 for windows.
Any other suggestions ?
Many people h
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:40:53 +0100, Stef Mientki wrote:
>
> I want to give a small beep,
> for windows there's message-beep,
> and there seems to be something like " curses" ,
> but that package seems to be totally broken in P2.5 for windows.
>
> Any other suggestions ?
Many people have suggested
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:56:40 GMT I V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, if we want Python to the programming language of choice for
> Lacanian psychoanalysts, perhaps we should adopt the symbol "$" (or
> even, with Python 3's support for unicode identifiers, S followed by
> U+0388) instead of "self."
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:34:56 -0800, Erik Max Francis wrote:
> `$` as a shortcut for self, on the other hand, gives absolutely no
> mnemonic indication what it stands for, and users would be simply left
> guessing.
However, $ is sometimes used as an alternative way of writing S̸ (I've
attempted to
On Dec 7, 4:13 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a 12-year-old son who spends too much time playing Xbox live
> and watching silly YouTube videos. I would like to try to get him
> interested in programming. Is anyone aware of a good book or website
> that addresses this concern, pre
On Dec 7, 9:13 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a 12-year-old son who spends too much time playing Xbox live
> and watching silly YouTube videos. I would like to try to get him
> interested in programming.
Lot of people learn to program even before age of 12.
But I think it's bett
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ats wrote:
> I want to generate 3 different versions of a C++ source code,
> basically injecting different flavours of inline assembler depending
> on target compiler/CPU.
Are you aware that there are also packages that let you generate and
call C cod
walterbyrd:
> I can not think of anything that is being changed that was really a "show
> stopper" anyway.<
I agree, but Python and its culture has a characteristic that not many
other languages share: it tries to be a tidy language, to have one
obvious way to do most things, it values readabilit
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:13:37 -0800 (PST) "Russ P."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a 12-year-old son who spends too much time playing Xbox live
> and watching silly YouTube videos. I would like to try to get him
> interested in programming. Is anyone aware of a good book or website
> that addre
On Dec 7, 2008, at 15:13 , Russ P. wrote:
I have a 12-year-old son who spends too much time playing Xbox live
and watching silly YouTube videos. I would like to try to get him
interested in programming. Is anyone aware of a good book or website
check out:
http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/writin
On Dec 5, 2008, at 21:21 , Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
The proposal is to allow this:
class C:
def self.method( arg ):
self.value = arg
return self.value
instead of this:
class C:
def method( self, arg ):
self.value = arg
return self.value
I have never
I have a 12-year-old son who spends too much time playing Xbox live
and watching silly YouTube videos. I would like to try to get him
interested in programming. Is anyone aware of a good book or website
that addresses this concern, preferably (but not necessarily) using
Python? I could try to teach
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andreas Waldenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Just found this in the re module's docs:
>
>m = re.match(r"(?P\w+) (?P\w+)", "Malcom
>Reynolds")
>
>Does this represent an attempt to phase out the gratuitous Monty Python
>references in favor of gratuitous
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Daniel Fetchinson a écrit :
> (snip)
>> It doesn't add anything but makes something that exists a bit clearer
>
> Err... I fail to see how magically transforming def self.foo(...) into
> def foo(self, ...) makes anything clearer about what really happens and
> how Py
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:33:35 -0800, 5lvqbwl02 wrote:
> I'm trying to solve the 9-tile puzzle using as functional an approach as
> possible. I've recently finished reading SICP and am deliberately
> avoiding easy python-isms for the more convoluted scheme/functional
> methods. The following funct
Just found this in the re module's docs:
m = re.match(r"(?P\w+) (?P\w+)", "Malcom
Reynolds")
Does this represent an attempt to phase out the gratuitous Monty Python
references in favor of gratuitous Firefly references? Because if so,
I'm all for it.
Anyways, stuff like that really makes
On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2008-12-07, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But invoking the standard system beep
What makes you think there is such a thing as "the standard system
beep"?
Because OS X (the platform with which I'm most familiar) certainly has
o
> I've had to fork my appscript project's codebase in order to add
> support for Python 3.x. I would like to distribute both 2.x and 3.x
> versions under the same package name for obvious reasons. This isn't a
> problem with eggs as the Python version number is included in each
> egg's name, but wh
Daniel Fetchinson a écrit :
(snip)
Still, improved error messages would be desirable (concerning the
number of arguments passed to an instance method).
Then count me as +2 on this !-)
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:36:58 +0100 "Diez B. Roggisch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andreas Waldenburger schrieb:
> > This is a little puzzling.
> >
> >
> > Using ipython:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Logstuff]$ ipython
> > Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Sep 30 2008, 15:41:38)
> > Type "cop
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:35:53 +0100 Andreas Waldenburger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:22:23 -0800 (PST) walterbyrd
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > At best, I am a casual python user, so it's likely that I am missing
> > something.
> Yes, the big picture.
>
OK, that was a b
Andreas Waldenburger schrieb:
This is a little puzzling.
Using ipython:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Logstuff]$ ipython
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Sep 30 2008, 15:41:38)
Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[snip ipython help message]
In [1]: import re
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:22:23 -0800 (PST) walterbyrd
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMO: breaking backward compatibility is a big deal, and should only be
> done when it is seriously needed.
>
Plze. Python 3 is shipping now, and so is 2.x, where x > 5. Python
2 is going to be around for quite som
The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfect sense
and having both (old and new) in a future version of python is a
possibility sin
This is a little puzzling.
Using ipython:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Logstuff]$ ipython
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Sep 30 2008, 15:41:38)
Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[snip ipython help message]
In [1]: import re
This works fine. But with the
Daniel Fetchinson a écrit :
Hi folks,
The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfect sense
and having both (old and new) in a future version of python is a
IMO: breaking backward compatibility is a big deal, and should only be
done when it is seriously needed.
Also, IMO, most of, if not all, of the changes being made in 3.0 are
debatable, at best. I can not think of anything that is being changed
that was really a "show stopper" anyway.
At best, I a
News123 a écrit :
Lie wrote:
On Dec 7, 1:02 am, News123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What would be interesting would be some syntactical sugar to get rid of
the 'self' (at least in the code body).
This has been debated to hell and back. And it's *not* going to happen.
example:
class C:
cl
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:13:18 +0100 Bruno Desthuilliers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > and friendlier to newbies.
>
> I'd rather say "more acceptable to java-brainwashed developpers".
Why would you rather be unfriendly and seed ambivalence? I do see the
fun in a little Python snobbism, but ... c
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