On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Mikhail V wrote:
> I am in the category "I just want to express some
> algorithm and don't want to learn every year new concepts".
> I tend to think that extremely restricted syntax, in the sence
> of having only few flow control instructions actually helps with
>
On 14 April 2017 at 03:44, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:52 am, bartc wrote:
>
>> I know this isn't the Python need-for-speed thread, but this is a
>> classic example where the lack of one simple feature leads to using
>> slower, more cumbersome ones.
>
> Dear gods, have I fallen
On 04/14/2017 07:19 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 11:44:59 +1000, Steve D'Aprano
declaimed the following:
Even that's not enough for some. Donald Knuth, who supports the use of GOTO
under some circumstances, maintains that any program using GOTOs should
have the invariant t
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 12:13 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 18:36:57 -0600, Ian Kelly
> declaimed the following:
>
>>
>>Well, you can do it in Assembly. And BASIC, if you count the primitive
>>GOSUB-type subroutines, though modern BASICs have real subroutines
>>that don't all
Bernd Nawothnig wrote:
> On 2017-04-13, Mikhail V wrote:
> > On 13 April 2017 at 18:48, Ian Kelly wrote:
> >> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
> >>> Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and whistles of Python
> >>> in these two examples, or is there something els
On 2017-04-13, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2017-04-13, Rob Gaddi wrote:
>
>> No, C doesn't support exception handling. As a result, handling error
>> conditions in C is a huge pain for which (forward-only) goto is often,
>> while not the only remedy, the least painful one.
>
> Indeed. That is alm
On 2017-04-13, Mikhail V wrote:
> On 13 April 2017 at 18:48, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
>>> Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and whistles of Python
>>> in these two examples, or is there something else for expressing trivial
>>> thin
On 14/04/2017 02:44, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:52 am, bartc wrote:
I know this isn't the Python need-for-speed thread, but this is a
classic example where the lack of one simple feature leads to using
slower, more cumbersome ones.
Dear gods, have I fallen back in time to 19
d or impossible.
The most structured was Pascal which set out to be ornery by making one declare
labels. With everything else — Fortran-IV, Basic, assembler — it was next to
impossible.
Cut to 2017 and take a random 20 year old brought up on
python/java/ruby/javascript/haskell
Where/how would he have
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:52 am, bartc wrote:
> I know this isn't the Python need-for-speed thread, but this is a
> classic example where the lack of one simple feature leads to using
> slower, more cumbersome ones.
Dear gods, have I fallen back in time to 1975 again?
The Goto Wars are over, and th
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:59 PM, bartc wrote:
> On 13/04/2017 22:58, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:52:24 +0100, bartc declaimed the
>>> following:
>>>
'goto' would be one easy-to-execute byte-code; no varia
On 13/04/2017 22:58, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:52:24 +0100, bartc declaimed the
following:
'goto' would be one easy-to-execute byte-code; no variables, objects or
types to worry about. If implemented properly (with the b
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:52:24 +0100, bartc declaimed the
> following:
>
>>'goto' would be one easy-to-execute byte-code; no variables, objects or
>>types to worry about. If implemented properly (with the byte-code
>>compiler using a dedic
Rob Gaddi :
> On 04/13/2017 08:26 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> I have occasionally felt the urge to try "goto" in my C code, but having
>> written it, I have taken it out. It just doesn't make the code look more
>> elegant or robust. Unlike "break" or "return," "goto" makes me uneasy
>> about vari
On 2017-04-13, Rob Gaddi wrote:
> No, C doesn't support exception handling. As a result, handling error
> conditions in C is a huge pain for which (forward-only) goto is often,
> while not the only remedy, the least painful one.
Indeed. That is almost the only place I use 'goto' in C, and the
On 13 April 2017 at 19:38, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
>> On 13 April 2017 at 18:48, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and whistles of Python
in these tw
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 11:19:38 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > My broader point (vive la Trump) was that if we learn to actively tolerate
> > people with views wildly far from ours, the world would be a better place.
>
> I fail to see how
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> My broader point (vive la Trump) was that if we learn to actively tolerate
> people with views wildly far from ours, the world would be a better place.
I fail to see how my comment "Functions and exceptions are considered
'bells and whistles'
On 04/13/2017 08:26 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Chris Angelico :
Personally, I can't remember the last time I yearned for "goto" in
Python, and the only times I've ever wished for it or used it in other
languages have been multi-loop breaks or "for...else" blocks. And
neither is very frequent.
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 10:56:53 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Gaddi wrote:
> On 04/13/2017 10:13 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 10:19:33 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> >> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
> >>> Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells a
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
> On 13 April 2017 at 18:48, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
>>> Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and whistles of Python
>>> in these two examples, or is there something else for expressi
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> What to do??
> Ask Trump?
> [I guess we now need a Godwin 2.0 with :s/Hitler/Trump ]
Not even close. Whatever one's opinion may be of Trump, he hasn't
murdered millions of people.
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On 04/13/2017 10:13 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 10:19:33 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and whistles of Python
in these two examples, or is there something else for express
On 04/12/2017 04:42 PM, Mikhail V wrote:
> For me it looks clear and I'd say easy to comprehend,
> Main critic would be obviously that it is not
> a good, *scalable application*, but quite often I don't
> even have this in mind, and just want to express a
> step-by-step direct instructions.
I thin
On 13 April 2017 at 18:48, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
>> Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and whistles of Python
>> in these two examples, or is there something else for expressing trivial
>> thing.
>
> Functions and exceptions are co
On 13/04/2017 16:03, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:52 AM, bartc wrote:
On 13/04/2017 15:35, Chris Angelico wrote:
Personally, I can't remember the last time I yearned for "goto" in
Python, and the only times I've ever wished for it or used it in other
languages have been multi-loo
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 10:19:33 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
> > Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and whistles of Python
> > in these two examples, or is there something else for expressing trivial
> > thing.
>
> Function
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
> Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and whistles of Python
> in these two examples, or is there something else for expressing trivial
> thing.
Functions and exceptions are considered "bells and whistles"?
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On 13 April 2017 at 02:17, Rob Gaddi wrote:
>
> def finder:
> for s in S:
> if s == 'i':
> return 'found on stage 1'
>
> S = S + ' hello world'
> for s in S:
> if s == 'd':
> return 'found on stage 2'
>
> raise ValueError('not found; S=' + S)
>
> try:
> message = fin
Chris Angelico :
> Personally, I can't remember the last time I yearned for "goto" in
> Python, and the only times I've ever wished for it or used it in other
> languages have been multi-loop breaks or "for...else" blocks. And
> neither is very frequent.
I have occasionally felt the urge to try "
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:52 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 13/04/2017 15:35, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Personally, I can't remember the last time I yearned for "goto" in
>> Python, and the only times I've ever wished for it or used it in other
>> languages have been multi-loop breaks or "for...else" blocks
On 13/04/2017 15:35, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:31 PM, alister wrote:
I expect you could simulate most of these with a custom exception
for example break from nested loop:
class GoTo(Exception):
pass
try:
for i in range(100):
print i
for j in range
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:31 PM, alister wrote:
> I expect you could simulate most of these with a custom exception
> for example break from nested loop:
>
> class GoTo(Exception):
> pass
>
> try:
> for i in range(100):
> print i
> for j in range (50):
> print j
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 01:42:01 +0200, Mikhail V wrote:
> On 12 April 2017 at 02:44, Nathan Ernst wrote:
>> goto is a misunderstood and much misaligned creature. It is a very
>> useful feature, but like nearly any programming construct can be
>> abused.
>>
>> Constructs like 'break', 'continue' or '
On 04/12/2017 04:42 PM, Mikhail V wrote:
On 12 April 2017 at 02:44, Nathan Ernst wrote:
goto is a misunderstood and much misaligned creature. It is a very useful
feature, but like nearly any programming construct can be abused.
Constructs like 'break', 'continue' or 'next' in languages like Py
On 12 April 2017 at 02:44, Nathan Ernst wrote:
> goto is a misunderstood and much misaligned creature. It is a very useful
> feature, but like nearly any programming construct can be abused.
>
> Constructs like 'break', 'continue' or 'next' in languages like Python or
> C/C++ are goto's with impli
If you use ssh, then you must to learn 'scp'. Or buy books about
programming ;)
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Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> OK - Here's some reasoning that may illuminate it. We could, in
theory,
> reduce any language to the minimal Boehm & Jacopini control
structures
> (iirc there were only four). In effect, anything beyond these is
> syntactic sugar. IOW, feel free to use a minimalist Turing M
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
> > Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>WOW, just greate! ... but i'd like to relax at some more
> >>interesting way than to comment each of rows
> but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh,
and have to
> use only installed editors (such as vi)
Grant Edwards wrote:
Sure, but what about the case where his program is on paper
tape and all he has for an editor is an ice pick?
Paper tape? Luxury
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On 2005-04-22, Reinhold Birkenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sure, but what about the case where his program is on paper
tape and all he has for an editor is an ice pick?
>>>
>>> Then inserting goto doesn't seem to be an acceptable option
>>> either ;)
>>
>> Scissors, tape, and a box f
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> On 2005-04-21, Peter Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > Maxim Kasimov schrieb:
>>> >> but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh, and
>>> >>
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm writing for embedded realtime systems in C/C++ and
>> have never encountered a single need to use goto.
>
> I have encountered situations in C programs where the best
> thing to use
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2005-04-21, Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Sure, but what about the case where his program is on paper
>>>tape and all he has for an editor is an ice pick?
>>
>> Can't you emulate that in emacs wit
"praba kar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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Dear All,
In Python what is equivalent to goto statement
Sheesh! It took 20 days for this to get to my mail server!
John Roth
regards,
praba
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Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I'm writing for embedded realtime systems in C/C++ and
have never encountered a single need to use goto.
I have encountered situations in C programs where the best
thing to use was a goto. Those situations have al
Hi All--
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
>
> Maxim Kasimov wrote:
>
> > how do use this here:
>
> are you still claiming you're not a troll?
>
> *plonk*
>
Oh, I don't think he's a troll, but his license to use Python should be
revoked. I think RPG would be a good language for him, don't you?
Metta,
I
On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On 2005-04-21, Peter Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Maxim Kasimov schrieb:
>> >> but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh, and
>> >> have to use only installed e
On 2005-04-21, Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Sure, but what about the case where his program is on paper
>>tape and all he has for an editor is an ice pick?
>
> Can't you emulate that in emacs with M-X inclusive-or-overwrite-mode?
Heck, emacs pr
On Thursday 21 April 2005 17:42, Maxim Kasimov wrote:
> > Have you tried the triple quote comment technique?
> how do use this here:
Simple.
> sql = '''
> some long query
> '''
Change this to:
sql = """
some long query
"""
since you shouldn't be using multiple quoting styles in one module, an
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
>
> how do use this here:
>
> print "hello world"
There are cases when you can't do it in any language.
php:
/* this is a debug comment
function1();
function2();
/* this is a normal multiline comment block
it ends here
*/
function3();
*/ end of debug comment
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
how do use this here:
are you still claiming you're not a troll?
*plonk*
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dbye world"
This means that you have only two locations to remove the blocked out
code. This is identical to having to remove the goto statement and the
marker.
Hope that helps.
how do use this here:
print "hello world"
...
...
...
sql = '''
some long query
''
s means that you have only two locations to remove the blocked out
code. This is identical to having to remove the goto statement and the
marker.
Hope that helps.
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Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2005-04-21, Peter Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maxim Kasimov schrieb:
> >> but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh, and
> >> have to use only installed editors (such as vi)
> >
> > - at first line of block enter: ma (
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sure, but what about the case where his program is on paper
>tape and all he has for an editor is an ice pick?
Can't you emulate that in emacs with M-X inclusive-or-overwrite-mode?
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On 2005-04-21, Peter Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maxim Kasimov schrieb:
>> but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh, and
>> have to use only installed editors (such as vi)
>
> - at first line of block enter: ma (mark line as 'a')
> - go to last line of block
> - ente
On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I'm writing for embedded realtime systems in C/C++ and
> have never encountered a single need to use goto.
I have encountered situations in C programs where the best
thing to use was a goto. Those situations
Maxim Kasimov schrieb:
but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh, and
have to use only installed editors (such as vi)
- at first line of block enter: ma (mark line as 'a')
- go to last line of block
- enter :'a,.s/^/###/ (insert 3 comment chars at begin of line,
starting
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Well, I'm writing for embedded realtime systems in C/C++ and
> >> > have
On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, I'm writing for embedded realtime systems in C/C++ and
>> > have never encountered a single need to use goto.
>>
>> I ha
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Well, I'm writing for embedded realtime systems in C/C++ and
> > have never encountered a single need to use goto.
>
> I have encountered situations in C programs where the best
> thing to
Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sergei Organov wrote:
> > Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
>
> >>1. comment for debug
> >>
> >>It can be used in the same way, as the comments for debugging are used,
> >>but it will be easier than to use """ or ''', or using features of
Michael Soulier wrote:
>On 4/20/05, Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh, and have
>>to use
>>only installed editors (such as vi)
>>
>>
>
>Then learn to use vi.
>
>:.,+10s/^/#
>" comment the next 10 lines
>
>
Or
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
> John Bokma wrote:
>> Mage wrote:
>>
>>> praba kar wrote:
>>>
>>>>Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> In Python what is equivalent to goto statement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
Do Re Mi chel La Si Do wrote:
> +1
I am modded up :-D
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On 4/20/05, Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh, and have
> to use
> only installed editors (such as vi)
Then learn to use vi.
:.,+10s/^/#
" comment the next 10 lines
Mike
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h
On 2005-04-21, Sergei Organov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I'm writing for embedded realtime systems in C/C++ and
> have never encountered a single need to use goto.
I have encountered situations in C programs where the best
thing to use was a goto. Those situations have always been
handle
Sergei Organov wrote:
Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
1. comment for debug
It can be used in the same way, as the comments for debugging are
used, but it will be easier than to use """ or ''', or using
features of text-editors, when it is necessary to comment piece of
code wh
> implement. BTW, all modern systems come complete with 'goto' implemented
> in *hardware* - they're called "interrupts".
That's not goto - that is a asynchronous function call - much closer related
to multithreading.
In an interrupt, you can always jump back to the main program using rte
(return
Tim Daneliuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> Some HLLs almost have to have it by definition. I cut my teeth as programmer
> writing for embedded realtime systems in a HLL (PL/M). While you could,
> in theory, completely avoid 'goto' in a realtime environment, it would
> make all manner of p
Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1. comment for debug
>
> It can be used in the same way, as the comments for debugging are
> used, but it will be easier than to use """ or ''', or using
> features of text-editors, when it is necessary to comment piece of
> code which a
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
>1) goto exempts from necessity to install new software
> (it is critical for remote working, for example, installing X11 may be
> impossible at all)
Attributing the need for a language feature to restrictions of your ambience
is hilarious.
Reinhold
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Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
John Bokma wrote:
Mage wrote:
praba kar wrote:
Dear All,
In Python what is equivalent to goto statement
You shouldn't use goto in high-level languages.
Nonsense
+1
Thank you!
Above all your claim is well justified. These brilliant arguments
you have put forth r
1. comment for debug
It can be used in the same way, as the comments for debugging are used, but it will be
easier than to use """ or ''', or using features of text-editors,
when it is necessary to comment piece of code which already contains ''' or/and
""" strings already, or there is anot
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
André Roberge wrote:
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
by the way, "goto" statement will be useful for writing more powerful
obfuscators
Let me get that clear: you want a goto to help with debugging.
And you want to obfuscate your code even more?
!?
Perhaps you need to write i
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.
.
.
>>> if you need to comment a couple of code (and then uncomment ), what
>>> are you doing then?
>>
>>
>> Use comments?
>>
>
>WOW, just greate!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Simon Brunning wrote:
>> On 4/20/05, Maxim Kasimov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>it would be quite useful for debuging porposes
>>
>>
>> How does goto help you to remove bugs?
>>
>> I can certainly see how it helps yo
Matt Feinstein wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:23:58 +0100 (BST), praba kar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear All,
In Python what is equivalent to goto statement
I'd like to that implemented in an interpreted language. Requires some
time travel.
Yes, to 2004-04-01.
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:23:58 +0100 (BST), praba kar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dear All,
>
> In Python what is equivalent to goto statement
I'd like to that implemented in an interpreted language. Requires some
time travel.
Matt Feinstein
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Bill Mill wrote:
I believe he meant obfuscating bytecode for a commercial product, to
try and avoid decompilation, which is often a desirable function for
commercial entities.
there is no shortage of "jump" instructions on the bytecode level, so if he
wants
to obfuscate bytecode, all he has to do
I guess the point could be "where do you draw the line": you can break and
continue in Python, but you cannot goto. Some people, so it seems ;-) ,
would like to see gotos in Python whereas other think breaks and continues
should be excluded ...;
Regards,
Philippe
Steve Holden wrote:
> Philipp
Philippe C. Martin wrote:
I do not want to pollute the debate but:
-) I remember a software QA managanager responsible for "C" coding rules
also not allowing us to use 'break', 'continue', or 'return' (in the middle
of a function).
And I once worked (back in the 1970's) in a software shop where "
On 4/20/05, Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maxim Kasimov wrote:
> > André Roberge wrote:
> >
> >> Maxim Kasimov wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> by the way, "goto" statement will be useful for writing more powerful
> &g
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
André Roberge wrote:
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
by the way, "goto" statement will be useful for writing more powerful
obfuscators
Let me get that clear: you want a goto to help with debugging.
And you want to obfuscate your code even more?
!?
Perhaps you need to write i
André Roberge wrote:
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
by the way, "goto" statement will be useful for writing more powerful
obfuscators
Let me get that clear: you want a goto to help with debugging.
And you want to obfuscate your code even more?
!?
Perhaps you need to write in Perl, or some oth
Loop bodies (for break)
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2005-04-20, Philippe C. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Although I find them 'cleaner' than goto, would not use goto,
>> and certainly do use 'return' in the middle of functions, I
>> also agree that some people might think the former do
On 2005-04-20, Philippe C. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Although I find them 'cleaner' than goto, would not use goto,
> and certainly do use 'return' in the middle of functions, I
> also agree that some people might think the former do reduce
> code readibility - ex: I , somehow, do not fee
I do not want to pollute the debate but:
-) I remember a software QA managanager responsible for "C" coding rules
also not allowing us to use 'break', 'continue', or 'return' (in the middle
of a function).
Although I find them 'cleaner' than goto, would not use goto, and certainly
do use 'return
U Unix. I can also send you the output of `man vim' from a
>> GNU system.
[Simon]
>It'll probably be easier to convince Guido to introduce a 'goto'
>statement than it would be to learn vi.
I just happened to learn vi first before emacs, and this precedence set
m
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
by the way, "goto" statement will be useful for writing more powerful
obfuscators
Let me get that clear: you want a goto to help with debugging.
And you want to obfuscate your code even more?
!?
Perhaps you need to write in Perl, or some other similar language.
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:47:37 +0300, rumours say that Maxim Kasimov
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
>by the way, "goto" statement will be useful for writing more powerful
>obfuscators
At this point in time you might want to reconsider what are the true
reasons y
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:38:40 +0300, rumours say that Maxim Kasimov
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
>> If you need more help, I would gladly send you the output of `man vi'
>> from a non-GNU Unix. I can also send you the output of `man vim' from a
>> GNU system.
>is it wrong to debug pyth
praba kar wrote:
In Python what is equivalent to goto statement
The group has been remiss, starting mainly with Mage's
unfortunately dogmatic response.
What we meant to ask was this: why do you want it?
There are better, simpler, cleaner, more readable
ways to accomplish what you are tryi
Maxim Kasimov wrote:
f..., i don't requesting that "goto" was available in next versions
of python, but i'm saying if it will be so, it will be easy and quickly
> _debug_ some skripts, _not only_ for commenting
Then we go right back to Simon Brunning's question for
you: "How does goto help y
by the way, "goto" statement will be useful for writing more powerful
obfuscators
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Christos TZOTZIOY Georgiou wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:13:32 +0300, rumours say that Maxim Kasimov
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh, and have to use only installed editors (such as vi)
If you use plain vi (not vim) and you
On 4/20/05, Christos TZOTZIOY Georgiou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you need more help, I would gladly send you the output of `man vi'
> from a non-GNU Unix. I can also send you the output of `man vim' from a
> GNU system.
It'll probably be easier to convi
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:13:32 +0300, rumours say that Maxim Kasimov
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
>but what if i just can't to do this becouse i'm working thrue ssh, and have to
>use only installed editors (such as vi)
If you use plain vi (not vim) and you want to comment e.g. 5 lines o
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:58:35 +0300, rumours say that Maxim Kasimov
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
>>> if you need to comment a couple of code (and then uncomment ), what
>>> are you doing then?
>> Use comments?
>WOW, just greate! ... but i'd like to relax at some more interesting way
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